3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Unchecked mostly illegal migration is a problem in many EU countries.

You cannot visit Rome or Paris anymore without illegal immigrants trying to sell you drugs and they may stab you if you look at them the wrong way. And everyone knows this is going on, but does nothing.

No EU politician is doing anything because they are afraid of Brussels, I guess. Or they are bought out. Or they don't care.

Trump is the only politician on the planet who tackled this issue. Except Poland? And Orban? And then was viciously attacked for ICE being gestapo.

But now in EU, a Dutch woman is trying to start a "Save Europe Act" since no politician is addressing the issue.

It's your opinion that he's a "lunatic" based on you hate the man's personality and it's too much effort to debate specific issues, and it's easier just to keep labeling him a lunatic.

I really don't care how many of you yahoos on here keep repeating the mantra that he's a lunatic. Some of his policies are good if people are objective or sane.

Maybe you folks are neither objective or sane yourself if you cannot acknowledge that even one of his policies are good.

It is something about reality awareness and knowing what you talk about through knowledge.

Test your theory against statistics Europe vs Usa

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Not nearly as many. To pretend as much one has to be a know-nothing or a liar. The mainstream media did nothing but run cover for Biden.

I think that is justified, because the level of craziness we see from Trump is on another horizon, or call it another world. Just look at the volume and style of his posts since he came back. This is not normal presidential or government communication.

Biden had a staff that worked within laws, institutions, and regulations. Trump fires anyone and everyone who stands up to him, even long-serving generals and key people in law and order.

Trump has built something close to a regime in less than a year, and it becomes less democratic for every day we speak. But honestly, I still think and hope most Americans will wake up in time.

And do not worry, for me and you it might not matter much. But for your kids and grandchildren, it will. History will know, when the time is right, how this really played out in the end. For me, I am more interested in the causes, reasons, tools, and how this plays out in real time. I am also interested in the science, not only the social project, but also the philosophical part of it.

Fact note: A 2025 analysis counted 2,262 Trump Truth Social posts in his first 132 days back in office, and another analysis counted 6,168 posts across 2025, around 18 per day. That is not ordinary presidential communication. Source washington post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/06/03/trump-truth-social-twitter/

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Test your theory against statistics Europe vs Usa

Test your theory that he's a "lunatic" before repeating it ad nauseum on here.

Not everyone on here is so stupid to fall for your brainwashing.

Just now, save the frogs said:

Test your theory that he's a "lunatic" before repeating it ad nauseum on here.

Not everyone on here is so stupid to fall for your brainwashing.

Do you pay much attention to his press conferences ? And do you pay attention to facts and statistics thats actually is measurable ?

Look at crimes in Us vs Europe, stabs, gun violence, drugs and homeless people, average wages, social health care and how many inmates pr capita

Trump is suffering from malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder and behavioral dementia and should be in a home for elderly psychiatric patients - not in the White House with his fingers on the Nuclear Football. Trump only cares for himself and his family, and he'll sell the American public down the river if it makes him a few more billion.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

I just cannot get a grip on why his followers still do not see what we see. Fair enough, the most extreme leftists can be just as extreme, but that is still not a good explanation or excuse.

Sorry, I just do not get it. He comes across as a complete moron and lunatic in my eyes.

And thank God the majority seem to see the same. If not, I would probably have gone completely off the rails and lost all hope. That is my honest personal observation.

Who are the most extreme Leftists here? I'd like to see what they post in comparison. I cannot imagine that it can be as appalling banal as what I see here from Trump supporters.

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Do you pay much attention to his press conferences ?

No one in their right mind has time to watch all these press conferences that last hours.

You're trying to tell me every single word coming out of his mouth is lunacy and batshi*t craziness?

Just watched 20 seconds of a press conference. He claims the border has been more secure than ever and no illegals have crossed the border in 12 months.

Now what do you expect me to do? Waste 15 hours trying to fact check this?

I'll take his word for it, because unlike you, I'm not on a witch hunt to take the guy down.

20 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Test your theory that he's a "lunatic" before repeating it ad nauseum on here.

Not everyone on here is so stupid to fall for your brainwashing.

Do you think he is on a crusade against Trump or simply expressing his honest opinion of what he sees of Trump in the public eye?

Accusing them of brainwashing for expressing an opinion seems somewhat of a concern, on your part.

I think many people reading his tweets would come to a similar conclusion. Unhinged.

5 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Who are the most extreme Leftists here? I'd like to see what they post in comparison. I cannot imagine that it can be as appalling banal as what I see here from Trump supporters.

There are not many extreme left wing posters here, but those who oppose the right-wing league are quickly labelled as leftists. There are a few who may be on a thin line, but honestly, not many that I am aware of.

Nobody here claims too much immigration is good. Nobody wants men in women’s locker rooms, men in female sports, or claims trans men menstruate. But most people with common sense believe women should be allowed to vote, serve in the army, and that homosexuals should be treated fairly and equally, like any other human being.

Just basic human rights, even if that seems to be too much to ask for sometimes. Basically, it comes down to rhetorical questions and how to solve real problems in a human and decent way.

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

No one in their right mind has time to watch all these press conferences that last hours.

You're trying to tell me every single word coming out of his mouth is lunacy and batshi*t craziness?

Just watched 20 seconds of a press conference. He claims the border has been more secure than ever and no illegals have crossed the border in 12 months.

Now what do you expect me to do? Waste 15 hours trying to fact check this?

I'll take his word for it, because unlike you, I'm not on a witch hunt to take the guy down.

You make it easy for me to debate you, when this is your approach !

Edited June 1Jun 1 by Hummin

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

What is this, like the nine-hundredth "Has Trump completely lost the plot?" thread?

All the Trump-obsessed leftists moaning about how they are not getting their way, poor lefties.

Your problem is that you lump all criticism of Trump at "Trump-obsessed Leftists" and completely miss the silent majority of regular people who simply got tired of the Democrats 🐂💩, like insisting Biden was mentally competent when he clearly was not, or insisting men can be women, and insisting in open borders - these majority of people who are political centerists who are Democrats and Independents and Republican, and who voted for Trump because he made PROMISES like no more foreign wars and releasing the Epstein files and making America a manufacturing power-house - all lies.
And now those exact same people have been shafted by the Trump administration as he breaks his promises and goes as far as to tell average Americans that he doesn't care about their financial concerns. And all of those same people as now seeing him for what he is: a mentally unstable narcissist who is rapidly becoming a danger to the United States and average Americans.

Trump has lost a significant portion of his base who pushed him into the White House with their votes. These people are not "Trump-obsessed Leftists," their concerned American citizens who now feel completely disenfranchised by Trump's antics and unhinged behaviors and malignant narcissism. And these very people are going to implement "regime change" in the next election cycles, and all the name-calling by right-wing MAGA supporters isn't going to stop the inevitable.

4 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

I think many people reading his tweets would come to a similar conclusion. Unhinged.

But the whole planet is a madhouse.

That's why JFK got whacked. He was "too sane" in a massive insane asylum.

Hummin misses Obama. Because every word was scripted and polished and he was an eloquent speaker and it made Hummin feel like the world was a nice cozy place.

But wars didn't stop under Obama, did they?

So Obama is better than Trump because he didn't fly off the handle on Twitter / X?

That's nonsense.

Edited June 1Jun 1 by save the frogs

6 minutes ago, connda said:

Your problem is that you lump all criticism of Trump at "Trump-obsessed Leftists" and completely miss the silent majority of regular people who simply got tired of the Democrats 🐂💩, like insisting Biden was mentally competent when he clearly was not, or insisting men can be women, and insisting in open borders - these majority of people who are political centerists who are Democrats and Independents and Republican, and who voted for Trump because he made PROMISES like no more foreign wars and releasing the Epstein files and making America a manufacturing power-house - all lies.
And now those exact same people have been shafted by the Trump administration as he breaks his promises and goes as far as to tell average Americans that he doesn't care about their financial concerns. And all of those same people as now seeing him for what he is: a mentally unstable narcissist who is rapidly becoming a danger to the United States and average Americans.

Trump has lost a significant portion of his base who pushed him into the White House with their votes. These people are not "Trump-obsessed Leftists," their concerned American citizens who now feel completely disenfranchised by Trump's antics and unhinged behaviors and malignant narcissism. And these very people are going to implement "regime change" in the next election cycles, and all the name-calling by right-wing MAGA supporters isn't going to stop the inevitable.

Who would have thought this was true ? At least he was right about one thing

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

I just cannot get a grip on why his followers still do not see what we see. Fair enough, the most extreme leftists can be just as extreme, but that is still not a good explanation or excuse.

Sorry, I just do not get it. He comes across as a complete moron and lunatic in my eyes.

And thank God the majority seem to see the same. If not, I would probably have gone completely off the rails and lost all hope. That is my honest personal observation.

Most of it is political identity fusion - when an individual's personal identity and their political group identity become psychologically blurred, making support for the leader a matter of deep moral conviction rather than simple policy agreement. But there's also cognative dissonance (the psychological discomfort they feel when actions, beliefs, or values clash) but there's really a whole array of issues that come with your typical MAGA devotee that we see all the time on this forum. Here's a good video highlighting the many tactics used by the majority of his 'people' You've got straw man fallacy, whataboutism, logical fallacies, ad hominem and burden of proof flips but it all stems from political identity fusion.

7 minutes ago, connda said:

These people are not "Trump-obsessed Leftists," their concerned American citizens who now feel completely disenfranchised by Trump's antics and unhinged behaviors and malignant narcissism.

It's mostly "delusions" based on:

• Yes, Trump does spew out a lot of crap and it makes people nervous

• Media brainwashing, mostly fake news

For the most part, people's lives haven't changed that much.

It's all perceptions and delusions.

15 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You make it easy for me to debate you, when this is your approach !

Yeah, you guys are arming yourselves with "Maga Cult tactics" videos now.

So I can see it won't get easier to debate with you.

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

That's nonsense.

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But the whole planet is a madhouse.

That's why JFK got whacked. He was "too sane" in a massive insane asylum.

Hummin misses Obama. Because every word was scripted and polished and he was an eloquent speaker and it made Hummin feel like the world was a nice cozy place.

But wars didn't stop under Obama, did they?

So Obama is better than Trump because he didn't fly off the handle on Twitter / X?

That's nonsense.

Neither of which were started by Obama. That'll be the GOP - again!

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But the whole planet is a madhouse.

That's why JFK got whacked. He was "too sane" in a massive insane asylum.

Hummin misses Obama. Because every word was scripted and polished and he was an eloquent speaker and it made Hummin feel like the world was a nice cozy place.

But wars didn't stop under Obama, did they?

So Obama is better than Trump because he didn't fly off the handle on Twitter / X?

That's nonsense.

Obama inherited two wars and the after-effects of them. That does not make him innocent, and I never claimed he was. A superpower, probably the biggest empire in modern times, does not operate without military force, resource interests, and foreign-policy consequences. That applies to both Democrats and Republicans.

There is a nice little thing you do there, making it personal by saying I miss Obama. And yes, I do. Not because he was perfect, but because he was a role model people could stretch after. He gave kids a different example of how a president can speak and act, not something you mostly see as a character in a bad movie. And God knows how this will continue to influence your country, since I assume you are American by now.

But that is not the point here. The point is Trump now, his behaviour, his communication, and whether people are willing to judge what is right in front of them.

When you say you do not have time to fact-check him and will just take his word for it, that is not objectivity. That is belief. Honestly, your reply above is borderline unserious.

15 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

For the most part, people's lives haven't changed that much.

Absolute nonsense. I have personally been affected by Trumps stupid tarrif's and his ill-fated war in Iran - and I'm not even an American.

Absolute nonsense. I have personally been affected by Trumps stupid tarrif's and his ill-fated war in Iran - and I'm not even an American.

We are all affected by Israel and Usa right now, and as well Putins invasion of Ukraine !

This pretty much is a picture is worth 1000 word image:

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

And Trump do not? You are funny 🤣

Other than frames clipped from videos, or five second clips from an hour-long speech of press conference, what signs of "serious cognitive issues" has Trump displayed?

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

I think that is justified, because the level of craziness we see from Trump is on another horizon, or call it another world. Just look at the volume and style of his posts since he came back. This is not normal presidential or government communication.

Biden had a staff that worked within laws, institutions, and regulations. Trump fires anyone and everyone who stands up to him, even long-serving generals and key people in law and order.

Trump has built something close to a regime in less than a year, and it becomes less democratic for every day we speak. But honestly, I still think and hope most Americans will wake up in time.

And do not worry, for me and you it might not matter much. But for your kids and grandchildren, it will. History will know, when the time is right, how this really played out in the end. For me, I am more interested in the causes, reasons, tools, and how this plays out in real time. I am also interested in the science, not only the social project, but also the philosophical part of it.

Fact note: A 2025 analysis counted 2,262 Trump Truth Social posts in his first 132 days back in office, and another analysis counted 6,168 posts across 2025, around 18 per day. That is not ordinary presidential communication. Source washington post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/06/03/trump-truth-social-twitter/

In your previous post, you claimed the number of disparaging Biden threads was similar to the number of disparaging threads about Trump, which is ridiculous.

Then, when you are taken to task for the false claim, your response is: that it is "...justified, because the level of craziness we see from Trump...".

First, you said it wasn't so, now you admit it is so, but that is justified, because you hate Trump. That's petty weak brother.

I think my country is in better shape after a year and a half of Trump, than is would have been in after another year and a half of the Obama/Biden/Harris shift even further left. You do not, whatever.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Do you pay much attention to his press conferences ? And do you pay attention to facts and statistics thats actually is measurable ?

Look at crimes in Us vs Europe, stabs, gun violence, drugs and homeless people, average wages, social health care and how many inmates pr capita

You do know that crime is largely down and real wages are up under Trump, yes? Did RawStory not tell you that?

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Absolute nonsense. I have personally been affected by Trumps stupid tarrif's and his ill-fated war in Iran - and I'm not even an American.

Please be spicific

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

We are all affected by Israel and Usa right now, and as well Putins invasion of Ukraine !

And the US is negatively affected by the policies of Europe.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

In your previous post, you claimed the number of disparaging Biden threads was similar to the number of disparaging threads about Trump, which is ridiculous.

Then, when you are taken to task for the false claim, your response is: that it is "...justified, because the level of craziness we see from Trump...".

First, you said it wasn't so, now you admit it is so, but that is justified, because you hate Trump. That's petty weak brother.

I think my country is in better shape after a year and a half of Trump, than is would have been in after another year and a half of the Obama/Biden/Harris shift even further left. You do not, whatever.

That twists my point. I asked how many Biden threads there were in comparison.

You started by calling people “Trump-obsessed leftists” and “poor lefties.” Then you framed anyone questioning the comparison as a “know-nothing or a liar,” and later reduced my point to “because you hate Trump.” That is not debate. That is labelling.

And yes, if there are more Trump threads, I think there is a reason for that. His behaviour, communication, and attacks on institutions are not normal. That is not inconsistency. That is context.

Also, criticising Trump does not mean the toxicity in America came from nowhere. He did not create all of it, but he amplified it and gave it permission to come out in the open.

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And the US is negatively affected by the policies of Europe.

NIce try, but yes, I know thats how American People have been formed to believe! Good luck with that attitude in the future, and see where Usa ends up!

17 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I'll never forgive him for having ginger hair or feeding fish too fast in Japan. The most serious accusations against him that werent hoaxes.

Oh and he has bone spurs so we should have a major flounce over that too.

Liberals🤣

How does it feel to be so unaware? Every time, quickly make up some excuses. This time it´s all hoaxes!????

Are you with us here in the real world?

Maybe it´s kidney disease? It´s a common disease where people make up and see things that are not real. Exactly like in your case.

11 minutes ago, Hummin said:

NIce try, but yes, I know thats how American People have been formed to believe! Good luck with that attitude in the future, and see where Usa ends up!

Just as I know how Europeans have been formed to believe that the US is evil, that Trump is a dictator, that mass immigration is good, that Islam is great, and Christianity is evil.

I love the United States, you (apparently) do not.

When your argument is that the people you disagree with are stupid, you really have not argument.