17 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Taking money under false pretences, is stealing. Insider trading is stealing. Do you have a different definition?

Crypto-fraud is stealing, fake phones, fake watches, fake schools. documents for petro-cash, Venezuelan oil for off shore accounts, all are stealing. Trump has built his entire fortune by stealing.

2 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Crypto-fraud is stealing, fake phones, fake watches, fake schools. documents for petro-cash, Venezuelan oil for off shore accounts, all are stealing. Trump has built his entire fortune by stealing.

They do not want to see it. They are filled with fear and loathing.

5 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

If managed to explain it to you, would you change your mind and become good?

Not if it were not approved by Putin.

Well unlike the vegetable mush brain Biden, Trump has a plot and plan while the auto-pen fraud Biden excelled in his buffoon gaffe muppet role in his position as the useful idiot until the dip$hit democrats couldn't sell his act any longer, gave up and installed a bigger buffoon refereed to as cackling kamala. Attached is over two hours of Bidens imbecilic mumblings. Now compare this Trump, bring some examples, like 2 or 3 BUT MORE THAN 2 HOURS on dementia laden biden babble....LOL

, now simply compare this to Trump, maybe you can 2 or examples to share....but 2 + hours..... LOL

28 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You said tariffs were stealing, please explain how tariffs are stealing.

When the courts ruled these emergency tariffs illegal, the government returned billions almost exclusively to mega-corporations while everyday consumers got absolutely nothing, with a few minor exceptions.

Taking cash from regular families through illegal executive overreach, and then refusing to refund them, is state-sponsored theft of $166 billion.

Just now, LosLobo said:

When the courts ruled these emergency tariffs illegal, the government returned billions almost exclusively to mega-corporations while everyday consumers got absolutely nothing, with a few minor exceptions.

Taking cash from regular families through illegal executive overreach, and then refusing to refund them, is state-sponsored theft of $166 billion.

Can you provide a breakdown of who received the money and who paid it?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

If you managed to explain it, I would apologize and not think you were just lying again.

But you can't explain it, because it is not true.

It is most certainly you who is lying.

Let's test that.

Let's talk about Trump and the lawsuit against the IRS that he 'settled' for US$1,700,000,000.

What is your view on that?

8 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And that wasn't even based on facts. Biden is still more competent and coherent than the fascist in chief.

At least his staff was on top of it. But I have to agree, Kamala Harris was a disaster as vice president and would not have done much better as president. Completely wrong presidential candidate. My personal opinion, and this one the Democrats have to the blame for.

Still, I doubt she would have been much worse for the USA than Trump. I am saying this as someone who is not defending either candidate. Everything spoke against Kamala as a presidential candidate: her background, her attitude, her voice, her lack of charm and trust among both parties. And thats a honest observation.

She may be a strong person working behind the scenes, but she was not the right face for America.

America wanted wrestling, so they got wrestling. They had enough of polished speeches and common sense.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

At least his staff was on top of it. But I have to agree, Kamala Harris was a disaster as vice president and would not have done much better as president. Completely wrong presidential candidate. My personal opinion, and this one the Democrats have to the blame for.

Still, I doubt she would have been much worse for the USA than Trump. I am saying this as someone who is not defending either candidate. Everything spoke against Kamala as a presidential candidate: her background, her attitude, her voice, her lack of charm and trust among both parties. And thats a honest observation.

She may be a strong person working behind the scenes, but she was not the right face for America.

America wanted wrestling, they got wrestling. They had enough of polished speeches and common sense.

As long as you wanted open borders, mass migration, more DEI, men in girls; showers, higher taxes, and Isarael left to fend for themselves, Harris would have been great.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

At least his staff was on top of it. But I have to agree, Kamala Harris was a disaster as vice president and would not have done much better as president. Completely wrong presidential candidate. My personal opinion, and this one the Democrats have to the blame for.

Still, I doubt she would have been much worse for the USA than Trump. I am saying this as someone who is not defending either candidate. Everything spoke against Kamala as a presidential candidate: her background, her attitude, her voice, her lack of charm and trust among both parties. And thats a honest observation.

She may be a strong person working behind the scenes, but she was not the right face for America.

America wanted wrestling, so they got wrestling. They had enough of polished speeches and common sense.

Weak whataboutism. Harris, and Clinton before her, are vastly better candidates than Trump. More intelligent, better educated, more honest and more literate than the career criminal.

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What have I lied about?

Let's finish talking about how tariffs are stealing first. You said you would explain it, but you just tries to redefine stealing.

Just another scam on the American people. Theft by deception.

AI Overview

President Trump introduced tariffs to the American public as a multipurpose strategy to protect domestic jobs, penalize countries deemed to have unfair trade practices, and generate government revenue. He championed import taxes not as a consumer burden, but as leverage to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and combat the trade deficit.

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I thought Iran, Russia and China are what's painted as the problem.

Do you support NATO and or EU members that denies the US to use their airspace and military bases?

Do you think Iran should be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?

"Do you support NATO and or EU members that denies the US to use their airspace and military bases?"

Very much so, if the intention is to wage a war which no other NATO country was informed/consulted about. Don't come running, crying like a little biatch, if things don't go your way, especially after continuously talking trash about fellow NATO members, and even threatening to invade the territory of one of them.

"Do you think Iran should be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?

Which countries around the world should be allowed to make such decisions taking into consideration that countries sometimes end up with complete morons as leaders?

24 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Weak whataboutism. Harris, and Clinton before her, are vastly better candidates than Trump. More intelligent, better educated, more honest and more literate than the career criminal.

I am speaking on a general basis. The USA was not ready for Kamala. Same with Hillary. They chose Trump over two women, but gave Biden a chance, even when he was already showing his age.

That says something about what America is ready to accept as the face of power.

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

As I said, it's my fault that I do not accept redefinition of the term "stealing" as a way to explain how tariffs are stealing.

Tariff were illegal. An illegal distribution of wealth. As long as Americans are as dumb as you appear to be, that state of affairs will continue.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Ah, the "Americans are all stupid" argument again, that's really strong brother.

And a great way to deflect from your inability to support your false claim!

I supported it in many way. You just refuse to accept it.

AI Overview

Whether tariffs can be defined as "theft" from the American people is a matter of intense political and economic debate, with arguments focusing heavily on who actually bears the financial burden of these policies. [1]

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6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

More cut and paste from you, color me shocked!

And your cut-n-paste does not even support your false claim, did you read it?

Too funny.

Yes, I read it. Together with the first article it demonstrates that the tariffs were implemented illegally and and it was yet another tax on consumers. Picking their pockets, so to speak.

For balance, it added the administrations view that it could fill their coffers. But it would be filled out of the pockets of the American people...

I don't mind going around on this, as your fellow Americans will be able to read this and understand who actually cares about them and who doesn't. They will see you for what you are.

27 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

As long as you wanted open borders, mass migration, more DEI, men in girls; showers, higher taxes, and Isarael left to fend for themselves, Harris would have been great.

24 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

If you think Harris and Clinton lost because they are women, you are delusional.

You are falling back into fixed personalisation again.

I gave an observation about why Kamala was the wrong candidate and why Trump’s wrestling style worked.

And yes, they are women. Masculine toxicity obviously won twice.

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Iran murders thousands of protestors, and the left is moaning about gas prices.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, gas prices are higher, and the left is moaning about it.

What do you mean by Iranian opponents are still murdered?

Do you think Iran should not be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?

MAGAs pretend to care about Iranian opponents being murdered only to downplay gas prices' increase! 😃

38 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I am speaking on a general basis. The USA was not ready for Kamala. Same with Hillary. They chose Trump over two women, but gave Biden a chance, even when he was already showing his age.

That says something about what America is ready to accept as the face of power.

It also says something about how stupid many Americans are.

5 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Yes, I read it. Together with the first article it demonstrates that the tariffs were implemented illegally and and it was yet another tax on consumer. Picking their pockets, so to speak.

For balance, it added the administrations view that it could fill their coffers. But it would be filled out of the pockets of the American people...

I don't mind going around on this, as your fellow Americans will be able to read this and understand who actually cares about them and who doesn't. They will see you for what you are.

I know all that, and I never disputed the tariffs (like corporate income taxes) are a tax on consumers. And again, I was always opposed to the tariffs. But you falsely claimed tariffs were stealing and tried to redefine stealing to explain it.

I think most Americans have little respect for anyone that favors Iran over the US and Israel, and who refuses to answer yes or no to whether Iran should be allowed to continue developing their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs, as you refuse to do.

It is amusing to me, albeit telling the number of non-Americans that pretend to care about what's best for Americans, all the while they spew hate at us.

30 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

I supported it in many way. You just refuse to accept it.

AI Overview

Whether tariffs can be defined as "theft" from the American people is a matter of intense political and economic debate, with arguments focusing heavily on who actually bears the financial burden of these policies. [1]

AI will give you information based on how you query it.

I asked it a different question.

Tariffs can be seen positively if you try harder.

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I know all that, and I never disputed the tariffs (like corporate income taxes) are a tax on consumers. And again, I was always opposed to the tariffs. But you falsely claimed tariffs were stealing and tried to redefine stealing to explain it.

I think most Americans have little respect for anyone that favors Iran over the US and Israel, and who refuses to answer yes or no to whether Iran should be allowed to continue developing their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs, as you refuse to do.

It is amusing to me, albeit telling the number of non-Americans that pretend to care about what's best for Americans, all the while they spew hate at us.

Either way, illegal wealth distribution. A scam on the American public.

Are you ready to discuss the 'suing and settling with the IRS' scam on the American people?

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

AI will give you information based on how you query it.

I asked it a different question.

And this shows your (and everyone else's) narrow-mindedness and viewing Trump through their pre-conceived notions.

Tariffs can be seen positively if you try harder.

And also, stop expecting Trump to wave a magic wand specifically for YOU.

You are not the center of the Universe.

The AI summary that I posted included that information, in the form of for and against. I guess that you didn't notice that in your rush to post argumentatively.

Increased federal government revenue in the form of illegal taxes on the American people.

Can you point out the domestic industries that were protected by the American people having less disposable income?

Who has re-shored due to the tariffs? Let's leave out deals that we already done under the Biden administration.

Potential benefits aren't actual benefits. You also need to consider the disadvantages.

7 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Potential benefits aren't actual benefits. You also need to consider the disadvantages.

Sorry, I cannot answer all your questions. I did not follow up on what happened with tariffs. I don't have the time nor the economic background to fully understand the implications.

If the average person has less spending power in the immediate term does not necessarily mean it's bad in the long-term. Same goes for the US dollar losing value -- there are actually pros and cons.

Something else to consider: the highest tariffs were against China.

But that's my last post on tariffs.

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Sorry, I cannot answer all your questions. I did not follow up on what happened with tariffs. I don't have the time nor the economic background to fully understand the implications.

If the average person has less spending power in the immediate term does not necessarily mean it's bad in the long-term. Same goes for the US dollar losing value -- there are actually pros and cons.

Something else to consider: the highest tariffs were against China.

But that's my last post on tariffs.

He went to China and came back with nothing. He is an incompetent fool.

On 5/31/2026 at 3:18 AM, MikeandDow said:

I think the WORLD knows he is batshxt craze !

Really? The WORLD knows he's "batsh*t crazy"?

I don't even particularly like Trump personally and I certainly don't agree with everything he does.

But I do think he's trying to do what he believes is best for the United States.

I support some of what he's doing, such as securing the border, reducing illegal immigration and rolling back some DEI policies that many people, inculding me felt DEI had gone too far.

You can disagree with those policies, but supporting them doesn't make someone crazy.

Does Trump post a lot? Sure. So do millions of people every day. Is he a narcissist? Maybe. But being loud, self-promotional, and posting memes isn't the same thing as being mentally unstable.

I'd rather judge him on the results of his policies than on how many times he posts on social media.

On 5/31/2026 at 3:27 AM, motdaeng said:

i’m more worried and shocked that trump still has so many fanboys who justify all his wrong and sick actions ... poor america!

“Poor America”? Really?

So enforcing immigration laws, securing the border, and deporting people who are here illegally is a bad thing now?

That’s part of the problem today. Too many people act like laws and rules shouldn’t matter, and that if someone breaks them, it’s somehow society’s fault instead of their responsibility.

I don’t support everything Trump says or does, but I do support getting control of the border and enforcing the law. Letting people enter illegally and then releasing them back into the country instead of deporting them was not helping America.

You can dislike Trump personally, but acting like enforcing immigration law is “sick” or “wrong” makes no sense to me.

5 minutes ago, ericthai said:

Really? The WORLD knows he's "batsh*t crazy"?

I don't even particularly like Trump personally and I certainly don't agree with everything he does.

But I do think he's trying to do what he believes is best for the United States.

I support some of what he's doing, such as securing the border, reducing illegal immigration and rolling back some DEI policies that many people, inculding me felt DEI had gone too far.

You can disagree with those policies, but supporting them doesn't make someone crazy.

Does Trump post a lot? Sure. So do millions of people every day. Is he a narcissist? Maybe. But being loud, self-promotional, and posting memes isn't the same thing as being mentally unstable.

I'd rather judge him on the results of his policies than on how many times he posts on social media.

I am astounded !!

5 minutes ago, ericthai said:

But I do think he's trying to do what he believes is best for the United States.

The best for the US !! people can not afford groceries,inflation sky high, wages failing,gas, housing, and healthcare all going up do you live in a cave read the news !!I'd rather judge him on the results of his policies his policies are bankrupting America the cost of a war which has achieved nothing you tax dollars wasted

your post is just Utter nonsense !! open your eyes

51 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, if only Americans were as smart as you, we would vote for the left and flush the country down the toilet,

Well, one out of two isn't half bad.

3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

I am astounded !!

My eyes are open. That's exactly why I don't blame every economic problem on whoever happens to be in office at the moment.

Inflation, housing costs and grocery prices didn't appear overnight and they aren't fixed overnight either.

A lot of the inflation Americans experienced started years ago from pandemic disruptions, massive government spending, supply chain issues and global energy problems.

As for gas prices, they've generally been lower than the peak levels Americans saw during the Biden years, although global events still affect them regardless of who's president.

I never said everything is perfect. Groceries, housing, and healthcare are still too expensive. But acting like every problem today was created by Trump's policies in just over a year isn't realistic either.

You can disagree with Trump, but calling anyone who supports some of his policies a "fanboy" doesn't really address the actual issues.