6 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I noticed there was a few down thumbs emojis in my original post !

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This is a very serious topic in which I plan to do a "study tour " on in September, earlier if I can

Aaah, don't let those thumbs down get you down, there's a few here with their trigger finger, placed firmly on that 👎, actually, these weirdos are unhappy they don't have a 🖕 to send you.

Anyway, Admin changed the colour, now a pleasant blue colour 💙

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1 hour ago, johng said:

Wasn't there a 'Shenanigans' at

The Avenue ?

Yes, it is now Robin Hoods.

It's not the place, it's the person. Unless you're living in a really big city, the things you have available to do in Pattaya will mirror most places of the same size anywhere else, and Pattaya will likely have more on offer than some of them, with certainly a much better choice of housing types and prices, both for rentals and sales, than many other places.

It's entirely up to the person whether they take advantage of what's on offer or sit in their room and do nothing. If a single person can't find anything to do in Pattaya, that will also likely be the case if they are living somewhere else of similar size.

I lived for over 30 years, mostly as a single person, in a small, expensive city in the US which had many of the same amenities as Pattaya, but without the housing selection Pattaya has, the beach, or the year-round nice weather. I found plenty to keep myself busy and I was never bored; and, I'm never bored here. It's not the place, it's the person.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Why so defensive?

Aww that's so cute when little kids misuse big words they don't understand 😜

Here we go again, change the record you old bore.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

That's exactly what Pattaya is ... a loneliness industry.

This is the problem with you and most other people who don't know Pattaya. I live 5km from the centre, and I never see bars or bargirls, or massage shops. I live in a normal urban area where the Thai working class lives. What's even better, I seldom see foreigners at all and never tourists. It would be the same lifestyle as in any other Thai city.

Sure, if you can't find a good partner, you could be lonely, but you'll probably be more lonely in your hometown/city without a partner, so what's the difference? In Pattaya, with due diligence, you can find good partners, something that is virtually impossible for foreigners in their home countries unless they choose a woman of about the same age. I'm 67, so I couldn't do that. I'd rather languish in Pattaya with my 35-year-old partner who treats me well.

1 hour ago, newnative said:

It's not the place, it's the person. Unless you're living in a really big city, the things you have available to do in Pattaya will mirror most places of the same size anywhere else, and Pattaya will likely have more on offer than some of them, with certainly a much better choice of housing types and prices, both for rentals and sales, than many other places.

It's entirely up to the person whether they take advantage of what's on offer or sit in their room and do nothing. If a single person can't find anything to do in Pattaya, that will also likely be the case if they are living somewhere else of similar size.

I lived for over 30 years, mostly as a single person, in a small, expensive city in the US which had many of the same amenities as Pattaya, but without the housing selection Pattaya has, the beach, or the year-round nice weather. I found plenty to keep myself busy and I was never bored; and, I'm never bored here. It's not the place, it's the person.

I'd agree with all of that, except one thing, "nice weather". I've been dealing with the heat for 20 years plus another 5 in the Philippines, and it's often hard to take. If you want a good climate, you need to go subtropical, not full-blast tropical LOL.

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

If your a single retired man maybe 60 plus , retired living in Pattaya .

What exactly do you do all day ?

I'm not talking about the *lonely" who need to hook up and live with a Thai partner !!

Please spare me

I'm talking about the 65yo man who has retired from the UK Australia America or wherever and living full time by himself in Pattaya

Are you not bored ?

And please if you could do you personally see this scenario with your own eyes ?

Farangs who gave retired to Pattaya only to go in a downward spiral ?

I'm interested if you do ,and please tell me ,are these retired farangs who are in that "downward spiral" , do they live in low class Condon such as Flybird or Nirun ??

What do you do? Drink beer and Doom-scroll AseanNow?

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

And you live by yourself?

No lonilessness?

Certainly not...it's a madhouse where I live

5 minutes ago, connda said:

What do you do? Drink beer and Doom-scroll AseanNow?

and wishing he were here

37 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

you can't find a good partner, you could be lonely, but you'll probably be more lonely in your hometown/city without a partner

Uhhh, this only makes sense if *not* understanding what other people are saying about you makes you feel less lonely.

There's a lot of friendly people all around the world who might want to talk to you.

But they're usually in places that are uhhhh not very busy

Like in Mexico when I walked up into the mountains...alone

Don't worry, some soldiers gave me a ride some of the way and didn't murder me.

I got to this small village with one store and one phone.

This woman asked me if people in my city shoot each other with guns

Yes, I said (I lived in a big city)

She shook her head, not here.

Later I thought, because they can't afford bullets and use machetes, 555

Another person a rather unattractive girl gave me the phone number of the only phone in town

"Call me. They will come get me when you call"

Well, I wasn't that lonely I threw the paper away somewhere, I mean tragically lost it. 😊

What does a 60 yr old retiree do in Pattaya ? Same as the 20 year olds come in for..expect that with a 60 yr old, the party maybe lasts a bit longer with the lady !! 😜

5 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

your a single retired man maybe 60 plus , retired living in Pattaya .

Maybe they go back to school to learn how to write in English!

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

This is the problem with you and most other people who don't know Pattaya.

But you're psychologically sound.

I was trying to help out Georgie. He seems psychologically weak. He will succumb to Pattaya vices and it will devour him.

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Aww that's so cute when little kids misuse big words they don't understand 😜

Something about those who always go personal 😉

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

This is the problem with you and most other people who don't know Pattaya. I live 5km from the centre, and I never see bars or bargirls, or massage shops. I live in a normal urban area where the Thai working class lives. What's even better, I seldom see foreigners at all and never tourists. It would be the same lifestyle as in any other Thai city.

Sure, if you can't find a good partner, you could be lonely, but you'll probably be more lonely in your hometown/city without a partner, so what's the difference? In Pattaya, with due diligence, you can find good partners, something that is virtually impossible for foreigners in their home countries unless they choose a woman of about the same age. I'm 67, so I couldn't do that. I'd rather languish in Pattaya with my 35-year-old partner who treats me well.

Your story sounds bs. Massage shops exist all over Thailand and yes Thais use them too.

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3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

You will walk around Soi Bukhao asking retirees if they are bored and miserable in Pattaya?

Would be an interesting exercise but likely get abused. Youtubers do when they go to Pattaya.

Friends are overrated. They don't cure loneliness. Only you can cure loneliness! Make friends where you find them.

Learn Thai so you can have a laugh with locals, even at your own expence. And, for God's sake, stay away from other farang who will tell you their story again and again and again.

4 hours ago, JensenZ said:

I've never suffered boredom, but if that is your affliction, it will happen no matter where you live. Boredom is a state of mind, not what you do.

I have a more active and interesting lifestyle in Thailand at 67 than I have anywhere else in my life. I'm not going to sit here and list what I do every day, but at least I can tell you I don't have that problem.

How about telling us what you do in Australia, and if you get bored?

That is the crux of it - if you are bored and mean before moving here you will be the same here. GG wants more out of life and is hoping someday to get out of where he is at now. Nothing wrong with that and I wish him the best but if he is broken now, Thailand is just a detour.

26 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

That's because you don't know sh*t, and go easy on the flaming. There are ways to make your point without being a pr***k.

Yes, there are massage shops all over Thailand, but not the type where 10 ladies sit outside trying to score hjs & bjs. There is one massage shop not far from here, and I guarantee you won't get extras. As you obviously don't know, there are real massage shops in Thailand that offer real massages. If you've ever been to central Pattaya, you'd know the difference. You'll see nothing like that in my neck of the woods.

You sound clueless about Thailand. More Thais use working girls than farangs do. It is just more hidden. Thailand has many thousands of massage shops. It is up to the woman whether extras are offered. Some do, some don't.

4 hours ago, JensenZ said:

I've never suffered boredom, but if that is your affliction, it will happen no matter where you live. Boredom is a state of mind, not what you do.

I have a more active and interesting lifestyle in Thailand at 67 than I have anywhere else in my life. I'm not going to sit here and list what I do every day, but at least I can tell you I don't have that problem.

How about telling us what you do in Australia, and if you get bored?

Everyone gets bored sometimes. Your stories don't add up.

31 minutes ago, atpeace said:

That is the crux of it - if you are bored and mean before moving here you will be the same here. GG wants more out of life and is hoping someday to get out of where he is at now. Nothing wrong with that and I wish him the best but if he is broken now, Thailand is just a detour.

Many depressed people do not understand that they are suffering from depression while they are in it.

They often understand it first after they are out of the depressed state.

Same goes for boredom.

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Many depressed people do not understand that they are suffering from depression while they are in it.

They often understand it first after they are out of the depressed state.

Same goes for boredom.

A 2016 study divided folks into 2 camps - thinkers and non thinkers. Thinkers could sit at a desk for hours provided they had complex problems to solve. If not they got bored. The non thinkers had trouble sitting still as they got bored and preferred physical activities. It explains why footballers are so dumb.

Nobody would be 100% one way or the other though so a hybrid approach would be best and more studies would be good.

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

That is the crux of it - if you are bored and mean before moving here you will be the same here. GG wants more out of life and is hoping someday to get out of where he is at now. Nothing wrong with that and I wish him the best but if he is broken now, Thailand is just a detour.

GG is a downmarket thinker. He needs to do studies on floor mopping to be happy. Maybe a tour of Thailand's hospitals would be a great hobby.

4 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I've been to 60 provinces.

I didn't even know thailand had so many provinces. LOL.

Like others have mentioned find some hobbies. Sports (Gym, Tennis, Golf Badminton, Swimming) are popular. Daily activities to stay healthy, Walk the Beach, Mountain, or just walk around the city.

I sure if you checked Facebook there are other groups who gather occasionally. I see some of the same people gather for Coffee and to talk at many of the Coffee Spots.

Bars, Music, Billards and a drink occasionally are fun.

Even with all that I know some who will either explore Thailand or a neighboring country every two or three weeks.

One advantage of Pattaya is you can get to many places in 15 minutes or less. A little longer by car or truck taxi. Especially coming from South Pattaya with one lane roads moving all the traffic around going towards Beach and 2nd Road.

You mention downward spiral. That is a psychological aspect that some are susceptible to anywhere in the world. It is easier, affordable and accessible more in Pattaya and some don't know how to self moderate.

15 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I didn't even know thailand had so many provinces. LOL.

Really?

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8 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

What exactly do you do all day ?

This guy's been in Thailand 20 years?

He claims if you don't learn Thai and integrate, your only option is expat bars for social life.

And expat social circles can be toxic.

I'm an introvert anyway, so I don't hang out in bars much.

But watch the company you keep. Everyone at the bar may act like your friend.

It's not just the alcohol that's the problem. But the guys who gravitate to bars maybe are the more miserable expats or shady expats? Not sure. I haven't been around as much as this guy.

Maybe he's exaggerating for clicks on his channel. I don't know.

Been alone is not a good thing when you get old , retired here when I was 40,

my wife was 20 ,I am now 80 ,we have had a good life together ,and in my old

age I need her ,she looks after me really well , you need to think of the future

not just of the day, unless you want to end up in an old people's home ! .

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