57 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Been alone is not a good thing when you get old , retired here when I was 40,

my wife was 20 ,I am now 80 ,we have had a good life together ,and in my old

age I need her ,she looks after me really well , you need to think of the future

not just of the day, unless you want to end up in an old people's home ! .

regards worgeordie

I do agree, being single and alone must be horrible. I live in the west and gave up my car months ago. I am lucky my Thai wife is a nurse, and she looks after me, taking me shopping and driving me to appointments (yes, I am your age). We go out twice a week, which I could not do on my own since I am a bit disabled and can't walk very far. Posters will say, "Now, you live alone." Yes, I do live alone, but my Thai wife of 23 years still checks up on me every day (living alone for tax reasons). If I were alone, I would be buggered.

10 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I see lots of these guys living above bars on soi Buakhou.

You should ask these guys your questions.

Perhaps they decided to leave their country to live in a 30m² room to be among the party people, I bet the majority of these guys after a few months they maybe regretting their decisions.

You see that because that is the sort of place you frequent!

I’m single, have a few good single friends. plenty to do.

Some easy gym 4/5 mornings a week just to keep me fit.

Then I usually do an hours swim in the pool.

Some shopping to do, but I usually eat out in a restaurant. I go to the cinema in town and eat in a pub for a change.

Sometimes have a drink. I’ll always walk to the restaurant and back , good for me too. I love to read, have a kindle. Great programs to be had on TV these days. The only ones I could understand 40 yrs ago in Phuket was some golf, fishing, and a comedy called ALF an extraterrestrial .I love Bangkok so spend Xmas and New year there. And love traveling. I think I do much more than I would do back home. Worked all my life so can do as I like.

10 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

No loneliness and it's great, once you are content you won't feel loneliness

Extroverts gain energy from being with others whereas
Introverts lose energy from being with others.

Extroverts often can't get their heads around this hence questions about 'loneliness'

Let's be honest, there are tonnes of very dodgy and low grade characters in Pattaya so its probably a big advantage to be introverted and a bit stand offish so u have time to work out who's who in the zoo.

PS. I enjoy Pattaya - it has a lot to offer but you have to be careful who you mix with - as an Englishmen particularly so - not sure the people from other countries there are so problematic - or maybe they just target their own too.

Edited June 6Jun 6 by Tourist2

11 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

, I bet the majority of these guys after a few months they maybe regretting their decisions

It depends on what kind of life they lead back home. "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" more so in countries with low wages and a high cost of living. Even the wealthiest prince or most powerful potentate can neither bribe nor command the sun to shine or the day to warm during a northern hemisphere winter.

Most men are divorced and have children who are busy with their own lives, so what is there to hang on to?

13 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

If your a single retired man maybe 60 plus , retired living in Pattaya .

What exactly do you do all day ?

I'm not talking about the *lonely" who need to hook up and live with a Thai partner !!

Please spare me

I'm talking about the 65yo man who has retired from the UK Australia America or wherever and living full time by himself in Pattaya

Are you not bored ?

And please if you could do you personally see this scenario with your own eyes ?

Farangs who gave retired to Pattaya only to go in a downward spiral ?

I'm interested if you do ,and please tell me ,are these retired farangs who are in that "downward spiral" , do they live in low class Condon such as Flybird or Nirun ??

The best thing is never to retire. Then you won't find yourself wasting away in Pattaya and the like.

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I didn't even know thailand had so many provinces. LOL.

There are 76, and he's been to them all.

L

2 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

The best thing is never to retire. Then you won't find yourself wasting away in Pattaya and the like.

Absolutely!!!

Thankyou for your service

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I didn't even know thailand had so many provinces. LOL.

77 but most Thais won't even visit 15 in their lives. The same with Americans and states. maybe 15 in their lives. Most who have families and especially children won't leave their own province much besides a few trips in their lives to bordering ones, Bangkok and maybe a beach trip or three. You could take various trains throughout Thailand , passing through many and say you've been to many, but it's like flying. You can stop over in many countries cities but still not "visit" them.

5 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

Extroverts gain energy from being with others whereas
Introverts lose energy from being with others.

Extroverts often can't get their heads around this hence questions about 'loneliness'

Let's be honest, there are tonnes of very dodgy and low grade characters in Pattaya so its probably a big advantage to be introverted and a bit stand offish so u have time to work out who's who in the zoo.

PS. I enjoy Pattaya - it has a lot to offer but you have to be careful who you mix with - as an Englishmen particularly so - not sure the people from other countries there are so problematic - or maybe they just target their own too.

Some guys need to drag around a wife or girlfriend everywhere, those guys must feel lonely on their own, certainly I've heard them say that

7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Some guys need to drag around a wife or girlfriend everywhere, those guys must feel lonely on their own, certainly I've heard them say that

Some guys need a " mother " type wife

This is why Filipina ladies are more popular as carers than Thai ladies

Filipina ladies are nurses

4 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

The best thing is never to retire. Then you won't find yourself wasting away in Pattaya and the like.

Depends, only if you enjoy your job more than retired life in Thailand

23 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Some guys need a " mother " type wife

This is why Filipina ladies are more popular as carers than Thai ladies

Filipina ladies are nurses

All of them? Do all Thai nurses come from the Philippines? Carers come from all nationalities. It's women that saw their moms caring.

15 hours ago, JensenZ said:

I'd agree with all of that, except one thing, "nice weather". I've been dealing with the heat for 20 years plus another 5 in the Philippines, and it's often hard to take. If you want a good climate, you need to go subtropical, not full-blast tropical LOL.

Yes, it's definitely hot. But, I still prefer hot to ice, snow, and freezing rain.

Although single life is great you definitely need someone when health conditions dictate it, after a recent op I'm reliant on my female lawyer friend coming over to bring food, i wouldn't want to rely on delivery etc but it's doable, plus she takes me to hospital, so you definitely need a girlfriend or carer at a certain age

20 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh please leave the pedantic academia to the academic

What you say could be true and in the majority of cases maybe..just maybe the single farang doess go into a "upward spiral " ????

But ....And I question that ...majority ?

"Oh please leave the pedantic academia to the academic"

Wow, used academic and academia in the same sentence!

Flexing?

9 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

"Oh please leave the pedantic academia to the academic"

Wow, used academic and academia in the same sentence!

Flexing?

He is, to all of the people who think that his story is real. It's a fiction to drive engagement.

16 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Your story sounds bs. Massage shops exist all over Thailand and yes Thais use them too.

Let me guess. You googled massage shops and google told you that, yes, they can be found all over Thailand and, yes, Thais use them. Duh. My Thai mother-in-law, who lived in a Bangkok suburb, had a weekly massage into her 80s before she passed away.

So, you picked out one thing from JensenZ's post--knowing full well that he was distinguishing between the tourist trap massage shops and those found elsewhere, and then made the ludicrous leap--based just on that--that his post was 'bs'.

Anybody who actually lives in Thailand, and actually lives away from the tourist areas, and that includes me, will know that JensenZ's post was spot on. You, on the other hand, remain clueless--and don't blame google.

44 minutes ago, newnative said:

You, on the other hand, remain clueless--and don't blame google.

Show some respect.

Rocky Road has been to 60 provinces.

How many have you and Jensen been to?

I'm guessing less than 6 combined.

Rocky Road probably has the Guinness World Record for provinces visited!

And does anyone want to wager he will visit the remaining 16 provinces before Georgie pulls the plug on his retirement?

15 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

I've been to 60 provinces. You are some sad old man who moved to Pattaya dating some desperate woman. No normal women in their 30s dates a 67yo. But you are an expert on massage shops based on 1 shop nearby. Laughable loser you are.

Oh, you're still working on getting negative rep... You don't quit, do you...

A 30s woman dating a 67 yo? No, she is not "normal" as in what you would normally expect an older expat to date in Pattaya... but we are not dating. We live together. It gets even better... she doesn't have children, has a professional career with a degree, and owns her own apartment and car, all the proceeds from her own hard work... oh, and she looks great too, with a nice bod.

You're just a loser who doesn't know sh*t and could find a good woman if you tried. You've visited 60 provinces and still failed. Now your life is trolling this forum, posting cr*p and hate. A bigger loser would be very hard to find. You take first prize there.

In your opinion, which province has the best massage shops? Perhaps you could start a thread rating Thailand's massage establishments?

3 hours ago, newnative said:

Yes, it's definitely hot. But, I still prefer hot to ice, snow, and freezing rain.

Yes, it depends on what you are used to. I lived in a subtropical area of Australia for 20 years before I came here at 28° South. I've never lived near snow or ice. I miss that climate, but everything else in Thailand more than compensates.

10 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

The best thing is never to retire. Then you won't find yourself wasting away in Pattaya and the like.

You don't need to waste away in Pattaya if you are retired. I work out 6 days a week, swimming and gym. If you're the type who would waste away in Pattaya, you'd waste away the same in your own country.

6 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Some guys need to drag around a wife or girlfriend everywhere, those guys must feel lonely on their own, certainly I've heard them say that

How can you know how that is? To have someone you care for, someone you cannot even think about replacing, and feel it is mutual.

To manage life together, build life together, depend on each other, and be happy together. What is wrong with that?

How can you judge other people without knowing them personally? You may call it loneliness, but maybe it is the opposite.

Maybe some people just found someone they actually want beside them.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How can you know how that is? To have someone you care for, someone you cannot even think about replacing, and feel it is mutual.

Is this someone you give a 100k a month to?

9 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Is this someone you give a 100k a month to?

What do you really know?

Personalized attempt to ridicule the question?

It was your friend, remember, who gave his girlfriend 100k a month. I pointed out the obvious difference between allowance and living cost. I am sure you remember.

And I did not specify how much our living cost was.

Making up stories to justify yourself?

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Although single life is great you definitely need someone when health conditions dictate it, after a recent op I'm reliant on my female lawyer friend coming over to bring food, i wouldn't want to rely on delivery etc but it's doable, plus she takes me to hospital, so you definitely need a girlfriend or carer at a certain age

I will jump in here as this post has prompted me to do so, even though I don't live in Pattaya, but live in Phuket, however I have the same outlook as @scubascuba3 with regards to being single, which I am and have been for most of my years, whether they be here or in two other countries in which I lived, and I've always liked being on my own.

I was married for three years in the UK and realised after the first month that it was a mistake, not because my wife wasn't a good woman, which she was, but because I have never been used to living with anybody and have always taken care of myself, even when I was young and in a "family environment" (which was grim to say the least) so living with somebody was extremely difficult for me.

I did live with a Thai lady here for five years and after we parted ways amicably, I took it upon myself to "unofficially adopt" her daughter and I've looked after her ever since our breakup, and if I was in need of help or sick, then I'm sure she would take care of me, even though we live a few miles apart.

I probably have only been to a couple of bars in the last three or four years as it's not my scene and never has been, but I do prefer restaurants on the occasion on which I wish to dine out, and I got to know the owners so I can take my own wine along, which is pleasing.

To get down to the nitty-gritty: – I prefer being on my own and am perfectly capable of looking after myself unless something befalls me, when I will need help. I spend a lot of the time on the computer and not necessarily on AN and I do meet a friend or two for coffee when they are in town.

As for massage parlours, I know the owners of two of them here and both of them are real massage parlours where I can get a great professional massage, which helps after I'd been many hours on the computer, and also helps after my 40 years of playing football at a good standard, with all of the injuries that brings.

In summary, single life is what suits me and has done since I was a teenager, and I don't see that changing and for the record, I'm happy as I am and hopefully will continue to be like that.

37 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Is this someone you give a 100k a month to?

100k sounds exorbitant.

the average farang monthly allowance for their thai gfs is a lot less than that.

but if the guy is loaded, then that number is meaningless. depends how much the guy is worth.

also, depends on the age difference. if he's 80 and she's 20, yeah she might demand 100K.

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

You don't need to waste away in Pattaya if you are retired. I work out 6 days a week, swimming and gym. If you're the type who would waste away in Pattaya, you'd waste away the same in your own country.

Well not really....in my own country ( Australia) I have work 8 hours a night

After 5 weeks in Pattaya last time I started to miss my work routine

Edited June 7Jun 7 by georgegeorgia

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

Yes, it depends on what you are used to. I lived in a subtropical area of Australia for 20 years before I came here at 28° South. I've never lived near snow or ice. I miss that climate, but everything else in Thailand more than compensates.

So that would be Queensland?

16 hours ago, still kicking said:

I do agree, being single and alone must be horrible. I live in the west and gave up my car months ago. I am lucky my Thai wife is a nurse, and she looks after me, taking me shopping and driving me to appointments (yes, I am your age). We go out twice a week, which I could not do on my own since I am a bit disabled and can't walk very far. Posters will say, "Now, you live alone." Yes, I do live alone, but my Thai wife of 23 years still checks up on me every day (living alone for tax reasons). If I were alone, I would be buggered.

You live alone to rort centrelink as a foreigner. You should be deported.

3 hours ago, JensenZ said:

Yes, it depends on what you are used to. I lived in a subtropical area of Australia for 20 years before I came here at 28° South. I've never lived near snow or ice. I miss that climate, but everything else in Thailand more than compensates.

Living the dream

Traffic, pollution, dirty beaches. Gym and pool 6 days a week.

Oh and loads of Russians, Indians to keep you company in between your laps.