3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I already did.

He avoided the question like the slippery snake that he is.

Tell him I never claimed to be an expert on Thailand, although he surely has tried to show us this. AI being his go to for all information to try and prove you wrong, instead of relying on actually knowledge on subjects. He actually thinks living in a farming community for a few years has you lose all of what you experienced in life before. Tell him to re-read what I said about hundreds of cities, towns AND villages, so he might try to understand this.

31 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Maybe you don't realize I'm far from the only one that points out what you say here. This has nothing to do with me but what you constantly say about foreigners. You're a tourist that complains about foreigners all over Thailand, like you did earlier. Complaining about those that do wrong isn't the problem, but you avoid what locals do and have your complaints about foreigners. Coming here occasionally and being with various women of course has you happy with Thailand. Look at your comment and break it down and see who it's about.

Look Fred, unless you are one of the many foreigners here in Pattaya, perfectly fit to walk, not disabled riding your disability scooter through the 7-Eleven buying your Chang and LM's, then racing through the narrow streets, holding up the traffic or shooting through intersections at speed, your comments aren't needed here.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Tell him I never claimed to be an expert on Thailand, although he surely has tried to show us this. AI being his go to for all information to try and prove you wrong, instead of relying on actually knowledge on subjects. He actually thinks living in a farming community for a few years has you lose all of what you experienced in life before. Tell him to re-read what I said about hundreds of cities, towns AND villages, so he might try to understand this.

How many days have you spent in Bangkok, Patts and Phuket? Stop dodging the question. You are so slimey.

16 minutes ago, mikebell said:

It is a tale told by idiots. Here is my take on the topic - as we get older and our bodies decline, we get angry about it. Our opinions get more rigid and we drop too easily into fixed grooves. My family noted this happening to me and suggested this site didn't help. Since Rooster hung up his quill, there is very little humour to be found in these threads. I don't mean the cruel, snide jokes about the opinions of others, but real attempts to lighten our life. It is why I relish the pseudo-cockney stories from XXX (his name escapes me.)

Here's one from my extensive collection over two decades of Life in Pattaya:

Flood Survival Techniques

The first rule is; always wear a buoyancy aid; they come in a variety of colours, the most popular being day-glow orange. Very popular in Boys Town are the rainbow-hued ones; these can be personalised with your name in sequins. It is Sod’s Law that when the storm breaks you are in or near a bar.  In the UK it has been estimated wherever you are there, you are never more than two metres from a rat.  Similarly, this is true here of bars. Because Pattaya is built on a hill and because Thais are not aware that water flows downwards, every East/West soi turns into a raging torrent within minutes.  The force of the water and the average age of the ex-pats means drowning is a real possibility particularly for those wearing socks and sandals.  Sodden socks act as a weight which means most victims hit Beach road feet first.  Luckily the far-sighted local authorities have chopped down all the shade bearing trees so our plucky pensioner usually misses coming to a sudden halt with a palm trunk between his legs.  The buoyancy aid keeps your shoulders off the road surface so you get to keep most of your skin in that area.

The second safety rule is; switch off your phone; maybe remove the Sim card in case your wife phones. (She has already installed a tracker.)  Answering a call with the giveaway background noise of music and excitable female voices is justification for homicide in most Thai courts.

The third rule is; do not ever play Connect 4 (or any other game) with one of the girls at the bar.  They are professionals.  You are allowed to win the first couple of games till a drink gamble is introduced.  From then on, every loss will cost you a Lady Drink until your adversary falls comatose at your feet and vomits copiously on your sandals.  (This soon washes off on the walk back to the car through the dwindling stream of sewage released from the overworked ‘drains’ – the last word is used ironically.)

Your car should always contain a bailer.  Car door seals are designed to dissolve in water so you will find ten centimetres of flood water (the last word is ironic) swishing round your brake foot.  The frequent floods help explain why Thais inflate their tires to double the recommended PSI figure; it also saves petrol when floating downhill.  Sudden turns are not wise.

Maybe that's the real Mr. Hansume. Paradise fades when expectations meet reality. You can see that story playing out on this forum too.

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Look Fred, unless you are one of the many foreigners here in Pattaya, perfectly fit to walk, not disabled riding your disability scooter through the 7-Eleven buying your Chang and LM's, then racing through the narrow streets, holding up the traffic or shooting through intersections at speed, your comments aren't needed here.

Look SF, unless you are going to limit your replies to those actually doing wrong, the fraction of foreigners and thousands of locals, your complaining about the others doesn't belong here. I know what goes on there, as the news along with comments from members here and friends, but you're still missing the point of many of your comments on this forum, along with the original one I commented on in this topic.

Best AN, Whinger thread 2026 so far.

Time for a breakfast big ice cold Leo. cheers.

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

One of the reasons I moved to Texas from New Jersey was the cold lasting too long in New Jersey, with very little to do unless you were hunting, skiing, ice fishing or skating. Texas has seasons also, although it's mostly warm there. You get cold fronts that give you a break, and not so much rain you have to stay indoors for months.

It feels like summer just started here and it wont be long before I have a toque on.

9 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Come meet me in Bangkok then you dodgy keyboard guy.

You're not dodgy, spending 20 hours a day on here attacking people?

I don't meet up with people for violence.

You do?

I might file a police report if you continue threatening me, however.

How many people have you threatened to meet up so you can beat them up on this forum?

You are a mentally unstable person, constantly dragging people into trollfests, culminating in threats.

I will avoid you now for once and for all.

You sick person.

Edited Sunday at 01:05 AM2 days by save the frogs

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

I don't meet up with people for violence.

You do?

I might file a police report if you continue threatening me, however.

How many people have you threatened to meet up so you can beat them up on this forum?

You are a mentally unstable person, constantly dragging people into trollfests, culminating in threats.

I will avoid you now for once and for all.

You sick person.

Meeting up for coffee is not a threat dude. You are very strange.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Look SF, unless you are going to limit your replies to those actually doing wrong, the fraction of foreigners and thousands of locals, your complaining about the others doesn't belong here. I know what goes on there, as the news along with comments from members here and friends, but you're still missing the point of many of your comments on this forum, along with the original one I commented on in this topic.

Fred, The topic is miserable expats, I'm discussing the topic, but you are discussing me.

You seem to be one of them.

Edited Sunday at 01:07 AM2 days by SAFETY FIRST

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

It feels like summer just started here and it wont be long before I have a toque on.

Which province again? I've been to Manitoba, Ontario, and Alberta. I know when I visited Manitoba, close to the Nunavut in June, it was just after ice out.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

might file a police report if you continue threatening me, however.

Yes go tell the police a farang wanted to meet up for coffee.

They would laugh you out of the shop!

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Fred, The topic is miserable expats.

You seem to be one of them.

Nah, not miserable, as I have a normal girlfriend, a daughter, friends and things to do until we leave.

3 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Fred, The topic is miserable expats.

You seem to be one of them.

Weird hermits on here. They don't get out much. Afraid of coffee and the real world.

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Which province again? I've been to Manitoba, Ontario, and Alberta. I know when I visited Manitoba, close to the Nunavut in June, it was just after ice out.

About an hour and change from toronto.

5 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Fred, The topic is miserable expats, I'm discussing the topic, but you are discussing me.

You seem to be one of them.

Have you already forgotten what you wrote? "

These vloggers are always promoting Thailand as cheap, inexpensive etc, this encourages all the cheap Charlie's to relocate to Thailand. Then once these guys settle, they find their pennies aren't going asy far as the vloggers tell them, now they haven't got the funds to live a happy life. They come out here on their aged pension, buy themselves a disability scooter, ride up and down the local soi's, here in Pattaya it's soi Buakhou, racing into the 7-Eleven, buying their Chang beers and LM's, then they're off at speed on the roads annoying other road users.

These people live in a little 30m² room, living a miserable life.

If you get a chance, have a meal in one of the Cheap Charlie restaurants, the joint is wall to wall miserable expats. The poor waitresses, getting abused daily 🙁"

Doesn't this sound like putting down people you know nothing about, while lumping many together with those assumptions, thinking expats here are all cheap, without funds and miserable? Remember, most everyone here has noticed how you talk about foreigners, and many have commented .

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Nah, not miserable, as I have a normal girlfriend, a daughter, friends and things to do until we leave.

You have farang friends in a small village?

3 minutes ago, blaze master said:

About an hour and change from toronto.

Fished Lake Nipissing with a friend and dad after high school.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Have you already forgotten what you wrote? "

These vloggers are always promoting Thailand as cheap, inexpensive etc, this encourages all the cheap Charlie's to relocate to Thailand. Then once these guys settle, they find their pennies aren't going asy far as the vloggers tell them, now they haven't got the funds to live a happy life. They come out here on their aged pension, buy themselves a disability scooter, ride up and down the local soi's, here in Pattaya it's soi Buakhou, racing into the 7-Eleven, buying their Chang beers and LM's, then they're off at speed on the roads annoying other road users.

These people live in a little 30m² room, living a miserable life.

If you get a chance, have a meal in one of the Cheap Charlie restaurants, the joint is wall to wall miserable expats. The poor waitresses, getting abused daily 🙁"

Doesn't this sound like putting down people you know nothing about, while lumping many together with those assumptions, thinking expats here are all cheap, without funds and miserable? Remember, most everyone here has noticed how you talk about foreigners, and many have commented .

He is right. Most farangs are miserable. Can tell by their faces. Tourists are far more happy.

16 minutes ago, rocketboy2 said:

Best AN, Whinger thread 2026 so far.

Time for a breakfast big ice cold Leo. cheers.

"Woke up this morning and I got myself a beer."

17 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Yes go tell the police a farang wanted to meet up for coffee.

They would laugh you out of the shop!

You seem a bit manic today, what causes the mood swing?

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Fished Lake Nipissing with a friend and dad after high school.

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Fished Lake Nipissing with a friend and dad after high school.

Was up there a few weeks ago for work. Gas was quite cheap for some strange reason.

Edited Sunday at 01:27 AM2 days by blaze master

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You seem a bit manic today, what causes the mood swing?

What mood swing? I'm eating yoghurt and laughing at the weird responses.

3 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Was up there a few weeks ago for work. Gas was quite cheap for some strange reason.

Remember it looked like a nice area. We drove up there from New Jersey, and when I look at Google Maps, it appears there is still a lot of wilderness areas, with a large chunk of area between the southern shore and the next village. Would have loved to hunt there for deer

19 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Have you already forgotten what you wrote? "

These vloggers are always promoting Thailand as cheap, inexpensive etc, this encourages all the cheap Charlie's to relocate to Thailand. Then once these guys settle, they find their pennies aren't going asy far as the vloggers tell them, now they haven't got the funds to live a happy life. They come out here on their aged pension, buy themselves a disability scooter, ride up and down the local soi's, here in Pattaya it's soi Buakhou, racing into the 7-Eleven, buying their Chang beers and LM's, then they're off at speed on the roads annoying other road users.

These people live in a little 30m² room, living a miserable life.

If you get a chance, have a meal in one of the Cheap Charlie restaurants, the joint is wall to wall miserable expats. The poor waitresses, getting abused daily 🙁"

Doesn't this sound like putting down people you know nothing about, while lumping many together with those assumptions, thinking expats here are all cheap, without funds and miserable? Remember, most everyone here has noticed how you talk about foreigners, and many have commented .

Oh, sorry, I forgot 😂

Yes, that's what I wrote above and it's why these guys who relocate to Thailand, then become an expats and become miserable.

.

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh, sorry, I forgot 😂

Yes, that's what I wrote above and it's why these guys who relocate to Thailand, then become an expats and become miserable.

Carl Jung would say their Shadow follows them and Jung is right.

Edited Sunday at 01:35 AM2 days by Rockyroad

5 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh, sorry, I forgot 😂

Yes, that's what I wrote above and it's why these guys who relocate to Thailand, then become an expats and become miserable.

But how do you know anyone is miserable unless they actually tell you? Quite a few thousand expats here, so I'm thinking you only know those from around Pattaya. Why does one move to Pattaya anyway? Expats usually find a woman outside tourist areas, besides the ones who do and stay.

Unlike some "experts" here, you cannot tell how a person is doing from their look or body language. This is the Land of Smiles, and behind many of those smiles is hate, deceit, indifference and jealousy. There are many thousands of expats here, and no one sees but a tiny fraction of them besides tourists in a small tourist town, and that's if you're out daily and actually living there. And you're only seeing a fraction of them.

Edited Sunday at 01:48 AM2 days by fredwiggy

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

But how do you know anyone is miserable unless they actually tell you? Quite a few thousand expats here, so I'm thinking you only know those from around Pattaya. Why does one move to Pattaya anyway? Expats usually find a woman outside tourist areas, besides the ones who do and stay.

Body language and facial expressions tell you more than words. He has over 20 years experience. I see miserable guys in CM, Hua Hin and Udon. Around 2/3 have negative body language.

8 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Body language and facial expressions tell you more than words. He has over 20 years experience. I see miserable guys in CM, Hua Hin and Udon. Around 2/3 have negative body language.

Yes, exactly what you have described.

Also, I see lots of road rage, look around, next time you are on the road, an aggressive blast of the horn or a person screaming in rage at another driver. It's a bloody miserable foreigner.

Edited Sunday at 01:51 AM2 days by SAFETY FIRST

12 hours ago, blaze master said:

Ill take the heat over our winter all day any day.

Spot on ,those days of 7 foot snow drifts and removing them to go to work are erased from the memory of my world.I love Thailand but i still reserve the right to hate driving here , despise their dogs nuisance, and the back yard neighbor building a refuge for roosters he considers as pets.