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Climate change - the unexpected effect.

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On 7/26/2026 at 6:33 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

Okay, I'll bite. Why were wildfires so severe in 1928?

More forests, no back burning

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  • Hummin
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    I do not believe there were no warnings that wildfires would escalate. However, I wrote a post in the other wildfire thread about forests, wildlife, and livestock, which I can contribute here instead

  • Hummin
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    Nature is overwhelmingly powerful, but that does not mean humans are powerless or harmless. We cannot create hurricanes or volcanoes, but we can change the climate, destroy ecosystems, pollute oceans,

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    "This has only really started to happen more frequently over the last decade. There have also been massive fires in Siberia in recent years, previously nearly unheard of." More to do with the mentall

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On 7/26/2026 at 10:40 AM, swissie said:

Everything you said above is absulutely correct.

But this time around, WE are heating up the planet. What took 10 thousand years before, we manage to do this within a few decades. That's the difference.

Apes in paradise that managed to destroy their paradise by their own doing. Remarkable.

Warming? 50 years ago they were busy warning about another ice age. I never saw any glaciers marching south. Climate change is just another grift to increase how much we pay the governments in taxes.

On top of all this there is the increased air pollution from not only these fires, but the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East. The smoke from those Wildberries fires was unbelievable, but will pale in comparison if the gulf oil fields are blown up.

9 minutes ago, phetphet said:

On top of all this there is the increased air pollution from not only these fires, but the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East. The smoke from those Wildberries fires was unbelievable, but will pale in comparison if the gulf oil fields are blown up.

Don’t worry about it, nature has pretty much contained human mischievous tendencies within the planet’s atmosphere so as to not disturb the outer reaches of the planet.

The world has been going to hell in a hand cart, for the past 85 years 3 months and 24 days. Quite frankly, it will continue to do so long after I am gone. So, to be perfectly honest, I don't give a rats arse, because I won't be here to see the end result. And for those who are........................!

Just now, Surasak said:

The world has been going to hell in a hand cart, for the past 85 years 3 months and 24 days. Quite frankly, it will continue to do so long after I am gone. So, to be perfectly honest, I don't give a rats arse, because I won't be here to see the end result. And for those who are........................!

Human life now is way easier than pre ww2. Better cars, food, aircon, tvs, computers, planes, hospitals.

Only the brainwashed non thinkers think the world is worse.

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On 7/26/2026 at 6:23 PM, novacova said:

Complete hysterics by those who don’t understand the overwhelming force of nature above anything that humans can produce.

On 7/26/2026 at 6:23 PM, novacova said:

Complete hysterics by those who don’t understand the overwhelming force of nature above anything that humans can produce.

Don't worry everybody Al Goret warned us that the sea levels will rise soon and the whole earth will be flooded so that means that there no more wildfirers. So we can all relax and wait patiently for that to happen. It won't be much good if you are a fireman though.

8 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Human life now is way easier than pre ww2. Better cars, food, aircon, tvs, computers, planes, hospitals.

Only the brainwashed non thinkers think the world is worse.

"Better cars, food, aircon, tvs, computers, planes, hospitals."

And how many thousand years did that take?

As to being 'brainwashed'? That came about via education, and again took thousands of years! How one takes in that education, and uses it to advantage, is key. Ask yourself this, what is the one thing wrong with this world, which no government wants to admit?

If a majority of governments can admit that one problem and act upon it, the world will be a much better place because of it.

They shut down the economy due to covid. But, burning cane is ok. Can't they see the effect it is having on the air? Do they care one iota? Don't the leaders live here too? Why are they MIA? Why don't the "do nothing guys" do something for a change?

When the crop burning starts to kill the population, and lowers the quality of life for those of us who don't die, isn't it time to take action? We just don't need the sugar. Shut down this toxic, heinous industry. Lock up the farmers. Sieze their land. Do whatever it takes.

The sceptic will argue that anything we do could not possibly influence the climate, or effect the atmosphere. The planet is simply too large, and the population is too small to have any effect. Let the ships dump whatever they want into the ocean. The ocean is simply too large for anything we do to damage it. 

This frees them to buy as many plastic bottles as they please, drive filthy diesel vehicles, and behave as if nothing effects anything. 

It's not us. It is just a cycle. We are not responsible. So many people around the world behave as if we have seven alternative planets we can shift to as soon as we foul this one to the point where the quality of life has diminished dramatically.

3 hours ago, Surasak said:

"Better cars, food, aircon, tvs, computers, planes, hospitals."

And how many thousand years did that take?

As to being 'brainwashed'? That came about via education, and again took thousands of years! How one takes in that education, and uses it to advantage, is key. Ask yourself this, what is the one thing wrong with this world, which no government wants to admit?

If a majority of governments can admit that one problem and act upon it, the world will be a much better place because of it.

The biggest issue is greed.

3 hours ago, technoronin said:

Warming? 50 years ago they were busy warning about another ice age. I never saw any glaciers marching south. Climate change is just another grift to increase how much we pay the governments in taxes.

See you on the other side, Brother. Meanwhile, sure hope you don't die in a forest fire, freeze to death in Europe, poisoned by tap water, catch prion disease from eating meat.

3 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Human life now is way easier than pre ww2. Better cars, food, aircon, tvs, computers, planes, hospitals.

Only the brainwashed non thinkers think the world is worse.

Wow--all the stuff that screwed the planet! Good work, humans!

7 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Wow--all the stuff that screwed the planet! Good work, humans!

Go live in a cave then.

On 7/26/2026 at 8:53 PM, swissie said:

There is another thing that hasen't made it into the headlines.

- The thawing of the Permafrost. There, there is more CO2 stored than is currently already in the athmosphere. If that is eventually released into the athmosphere, then it's strictly "good night Matilda". Most of it will be in form of Methane, 20 times worse than CO2.

- Gulf Stream slowing. If it stops, northern Europe will be as cold as Quebec (same latitude).

Think they reversed that idea about methane in permafrost a while back. Found bacteria eating all the theoretical methane in the permafrost, there's none left to release.

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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

They shut down the economy due to covid. But, burning cane is ok. Can't they see the effect it is having on the air? Do they care one iota? Don't the leaders live here too? Why are they MIA? Why don't the "do nothing guys" do something for a change?

When the crop burning starts to kill the population, and lowers the quality of life for those of us who don't die, isn't it time to take action? We just don't need the sugar. Shut down this toxic, heinous industry. Lock up the farmers. Sieze their land. Do whatever it takes.

The sceptic will argue that anything we do could not possibly influence the climate, or effect the atmosphere. The planet is simply too large, and the population is too small to have any effect. Let the ships dump whatever they want into the ocean. The ocean is simply too large for anything we do to damage it. 

This frees them to buy as many plastic bottles as they please, drive filthy diesel vehicles, and behave as if nothing effects anything. 

It's not us. It is just a cycle. We are not responsible. So many people around the world behave as if we have seven alternative planets we can shift to as soon as we foul this one to the point where the quality of life has diminished dramatically.


There are good reasons to burn and bad reasons. Even nature depends on cycles of fire and renewal. Burning can be necessary because crop waste builds up, creates breeding grounds for pests, and carries disease into the next crop. Controlled burning can remove this material and return some minerals to the soil through the ash.

The real problem is not burning itself, but the total effect of human activity, how often we burn, how much we burn, and under what conditions. This debate is not only about climate change. It is about what we are doing to the natural habitat that allowed us to evolve in the first place, and how quickly we are making it more difficult for us to live here. It may only take a few natural catastrophes happening at the same time, combined with our own activity, to push us over the edge. The core problem is still too many people and too much activity harming our home.

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43 minutes ago, Hummin said:


There are good reasons to burn and bad reasons. Even nature depends on cycles of fire and renewal. Burning can be necessary because crop waste builds up, creates breeding grounds for pests, and carries disease into the next crop. Controlled burning can remove this material and return some minerals to the soil through the ash.

The real problem is not burning itself, but the total effect of human activity, how often we burn, how much we burn, and under what conditions. This debate is not only about climate change. It is about what we are doing to the natural habitat that allowed us to evolve in the first place, and how quickly we are making it more difficult for us to live here. It may only take a few natural catastrophes happening at the same time, combined with our own activity, to push us over the edge. The core problem is still too many people and too much activity harming our home.

I agree with a lot of what you said and that's why I think declining populations around the world are one of the greatest things to happen to this planet in the past few centuries.

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20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I agree with a lot of what you said and that's why I think declining populations around the world are one of the greatest things to happen to this planet in the past few centuries.


Maybe it will eventually happen. Some regimes have tried to eliminate certain ethnic groups and people with disabilities before, and we all know how that turned out.

Fertility rates are now falling across much of the world, although the global population is still growing. If the decline continues, depopulation could eventually happen naturally. Religious or political bans on contraception and abortion would work against that trend by causing more unintended pregnancies and births, not fewer.

Another question is AI and how many people the economy will need in the future. What happens if AI drives large parts of the economy through humanoid robots, while some parts of the population also live much longer?

Just 40 years ago, did we even imagine society as it is today? Your whole life is now inside a single device costing a few hundred dollars, which you carry everywhere you go. The future may be just as difficult for us to imagine now.

On 7/26/2026 at 11:18 AM, BritManToo said:

"This has only really started to happen more frequently over the last decade. There have also been massive fires in Siberia in recent years, previously nearly unheard of."

More to do with the mentally ill, non-whites, homeless all being allowed to roam and start fires in the western world. Diversity is our doom!

In China they would just be shot in the head ....... so it doesn't happen there.

I do hope this is tongue in cheek.

55 minutes ago, Hummin said:


Maybe it will eventually happen. Some regimes have tried to eliminate certain ethnic groups and people with disabilities before, and we all know how that turned out.

Fertility rates are now falling across much of the world, although the global population is still growing. If the decline continues, depopulation could eventually happen naturally. Religious or political bans on contraception and abortion would work against that trend by causing more unintended pregnancies and births, not fewer.

Another question is AI and how many people the economy will need in the future. What happens if AI drives large parts of the economy through humanoid robots, while some parts of the population also live much longer?

Just 40 years ago, did we even imagine society as it is today? Your whole life is now inside a single device costing a few hundred dollars, which you carry everywhere you go. The future may be just as difficult for us to imagine now.

I agree with that sentiment and I think in general mankind is not moving forward despite technology. Sometimes it feels as if we are quickly marching backwards toward Cro Magnon II.

I read that most of these fires are started intentionally by czaries. Personally I'd bring back capitol punishment for the offence.

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

They shut down the economy due to covid. But, burning cane is ok. Can't they see the effect it is having on the air? Do they care one iota? Don't the leaders live here too? Why are they MIA? Why don't the "do nothing guys" do something for a change?

When the crop burning starts to kill the population, and lowers the quality of life for those of us who don't die, isn't it time to take action? We just don't need the sugar. Shut down this toxic, heinous industry. Lock up the farmers. Sieze their land. Do whatever it takes.

The sceptic will argue that anything we do could not possibly influence the climate, or effect the atmosphere. The planet is simply too large, and the population is too small to have any effect. Let the ships dump whatever they want into the ocean. The ocean is simply too large for anything we do to damage it. 

This frees them to buy as many plastic bottles as they please, drive filthy diesel vehicles, and behave as if nothing effects anything. 

It's not us. It is just a cycle. We are not responsible. So many people around the world behave as if we have seven alternative planets we can shift to as soon as we foul this one to the point where the quality of life has diminished dramatically.

Another depressing post. Why did I read it? Ever think about just leaving this dreadful place? I love jelly beans so find this post insulting.....

19 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

The biggest issue is greed.

"The biggest issue is greed".

Human nature, and difficult to overcome. Which leads to the bigger problem. OVER POPULATION, which is destroying the world we all depend on. None so blind as them who will NOT see!

16 hours ago, atpeace said:

Another depressing post. Why did I read it? Ever think about just leaving this dreadful place? I love jelly beans so find this post insulting.....

Almost everything we do in life is voluntary and very little of it is compulsory so if you're finding AN depressing I might suggest looking elsewhere. Or you might want to look within to determine why it is that you're so easily depressed.

Nobody is forcing you to read these posts.

22 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Go live in a cave then.

Can't move. Too busy cleaning up the cow farts. Worse than cleaning oil off the beaches!

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On 7/26/2026 at 3:23 PM, novacova said:

Complete hysterics by those who don’t understand the overwhelming force of nature above anything that humans can produce.

Absolutely, in the UK, A warm day used to be celebrated. Now it’s often treated as a harbinger of doom. That’s mostly a cultural and media shift, not purely a scientific one......

sunny day.jpg

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22 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolutely, in the UK, A warm day used to be celebrated. Now it’s often treated as a harbinger of doom. That’s mostly a cultural and media shift, not purely a scientific one......

sunny day.jpg

It's totalitarian socialist government popaganda, nothing more.

An excuse for a socialist one world order to control everything and everyone.

If it was real, the rich elites wouldn't be buying multi-million beach front properties, and banks wouldn't be making 30 year mortgages on those same properties.

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10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

It's totalitarian socialist government popaganda, nothing more.

An excuse for a socialist one world order to control everything and everyone.

If it was real, the rich elites wouldn't be buying multi-million beach front properties, and banks wouldn't be making 30 year mortgages on those same properties.

Yeah... sure.... it's not as if humans haven't made poor investments in our relatively recent history

The best-performing and most speculative stocks just prior to the September 1929 market peak included Radio Corporation of America (RCA), General Motors (GM), and high-flying aviation and chemical manufacturing companies. Driven by new technologies and massive margin buying, these "glamour stocks" reached extreme valuations before the Wall Street crash.

Post-crash, these former market darlings suffered catastrophic collapses of 80% to 98% during the depths of the Great Depression by 1932..

On 7/26/2026 at 3:53 PM, swissie said:

There is another thing that hasen't made it into the headlines.

- The thawing of the Permafrost. There, there is more CO2 stored than is currently already in the athmosphere. If that is eventually released into the athmosphere, then it's strictly "good night Matilda". Most of it will be in form of Methane, 20 times worse than CO2.

- Gulf Stream slowing. If it stops, northern Europe will be as cold as Quebec (same latitude).

oh yes, that drivel has made headlines more times than worth remembering

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