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Is Illegal Migration a Death Blow to the EU?

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12 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Yes, his family's net worth has benefited from smart investment decisions.

But, his introduction to this thread is related his failed political endeavours, and buggerall to do with his business acumen.

You lefty-callers quickly revert to lefty-calling when you have buggerall else to offer. Just because someone offers an opposing opinion, doesn't make them a hair-on-fire lefty. But hey, you do you.

Crack on.

There you go, hypocrisy at its best!

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    No. Next Right-wing Racist hysterical frame based on fear and ignorance, please! 🤭

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    "This guy" is Jacob Rees Mogg, failed politician and failed TV presenter, part of the minority far right groups that feed off this nonsense of immigration invasions and the collapse of civilizations,

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    Yes, and 50,000 people illegally storming a border doesn't bother you at all. Can I sleep with your wife? According to you guys logic, anybody can do whatever they want. So you won't mind if I borro

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1 hour ago, sungod said:

There you go, hypocrisy at its best!

Nothing else then?

Thought so.

A video of migrants burning a British flag with one shouting: "This is our country now! There's nothing you can do about it!" Others can be heard speaking in Arabic in the background and shouting "Allahu Akbar!"

Video of German Chancellor Friedrich Merz speaking out against mass migration in Germany has just resurfaced. 20 years ago, Merz argued that mass migration was Germany's biggest problem.

Today, this same man arrests people for expressing the same views he once held.

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Just now, FinChin67 said:

A video of migrants burning a British flag with one shouting: "This is our country now! There's nothing you can do about it!" Others can be heard speaking in Arabic in the background and shouting "Allahu Akbar!"

There are some problems with immigration. I don't deny that.

But at the same time, we are being manipulated by the media, which is what the media does best. And the lines start to become blurry as to what is factually a real tangible problem that needs to be addressed and what is media that is designed to manipulate people into anger and revolting in the streets?

It's not either/or. It's not like the mass immigration has not caused some issues.

But at the same time, I am beginning to think there is some serious under-handed shady agenda going on by people to add fuel to the fire just to rile people up.

I will be taking a break from this type of news.

Good luck to all in what information you take in and how you filter this information how it affects you.

“Diversity is our strength!” declares London Mayor Sadiq Khan. “It makes us richer, not poorer!”

While he celebrates, the grim reality unfolds on London’s streets:

• A rape is reported every 50 minutes.

• A knife crime is reported every 33 minutes.

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7 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

While he celebrates, the grim reality unfolds on London’s streets:

• A rape is reported every 50 minutes.

• A knife crime is reported every 33 minutes.

That doesn't sound plausible.

Those statistics are exaggerated, probably by people with evil agendas to divide us and get us all fighting with each other.

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1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

There are some problems with immigration. I don't deny that.

But at the same time, we are being manipulated by the media, which is what the media does best. And the lines start to become blurry as to what is factually a real tangible problem that needs to be addressed and what is media that is designed to manipulate people into anger and revolting in the streets?

It's not either/or. It's not like the mass immigration has not caused some issues.

But at the same time, I am beginning to think there is some serious under-handed shady agenda going on by people to add fuel to the fire just to rile people up.

I will be taking a break from this type of news.

Good luck to all in what information you take in and how you filter this information how it affects you.

Closing your eyes is still not the solution.

You acknowledge real problems exist with mass immigration. That part is correct.

The issues are not invented by the media. They show up in crime statistics, parallel societies, welfare costs, social trust collapse, and failed integration that people experience in their daily lives, not just on screens.

Media does manipulate and amplify. That is true of almost every charged topic. It does not erase the underlying reality. Saying “some of this is media fuel” does not make the tangible problems go away, and deciding to stop looking at the information does not make the policy outcomes change.

Taking a break from the news is fine if you need one. Pretending the problems are mostly manufactured so you can disengage is not the same thing.

The problems remain whether you watch the coverage or not...

Bring back common sense and immigration policy. This is what I would vote for + remigration for everyone who does not match these requirements.

1 Skills-only selection — Entry limited to people with verified high skills, job offers, education, or capital that clearly benefit the economy. Points system decides who gets in.

2 No asylum or refugee pathway — Zero humanitarian, refugee, or asylum immigration. Those seeking protection must apply elsewhere or stay in the first safe country.


3 Strict border control and removals — Illegal entry or overstaying leads to immediate detention and deportation. No catch-and-release, no path to stay.


4 Limited family migration — Only spouse and minor children of the primary skilled immigrant. No chain migration of extended relatives.


5 Assimilation and self-sufficiency required — Permanent residency or citizenship only after proven language ability, cultural knowledge, clean record, and economic independence. No welfare access for new arrivals.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

That doesn't sound plausible.

Those statistics are exaggerated, probably by people with evil agendas to divide us and get us all fighting with each other.

You can always twist the numbers to fit your "agenda". My agenda is that I want zero crime by immigrants/refugees. I reserve that for citizens only. Now it's too late as they distribute passports like candy in Europe.

Roughly 896,000–916,000 offences in recent 12-month periods (e.g., year ending April 2026 or April 2025–March 2026).

Metropolitan Police / City Hall releases (July 2026), CrimeRate.co.uk (YE April 2026), London.gov.uk State of London data, ONS police-recorded crime figures, and Met press releases.

Figures are police-recorded offences and can be affected by recording practices and police activity.

10 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Nothing else then?

Thought so.

Obviously a man of many words! 🤪

(But of little substance)

1 minute ago, sungod said:

Obviously a man of many words! 🤪

(But of little substance)

Is that you boasting again?

(rhetorical)

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29 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

A video of migrants burning a British flag with one shouting: "This is our country now! There's nothing you can do about it!" Others can be heard speaking in Arabic in the background and shouting "Allahu Akbar!"


Is it even legal to burn a flag and threaten to take over a country?

Most countries would arrest you, no?

Try doing this with the Thailand flag and see if they don't deport you.

Seems odd that people are even allowed to post these kinds of videos.

So is this one giant conspiracy where the elites want Europeans to wage war with Muslims on their own turf or what?

This is hate speech. How is it being allowed?

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Policy to send illegals back enacted in EU Parliament.

You can see the pushback by the leftists ...

Governments can't win. No matter what they do, half the population hates them.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

and what is media that is designed to manipulate people into anger and revolting in the streets?

It's not either/or. It's not like the mass immigration has not caused some issues.

But at the same time, I am beginning to think there is some serious under-handed shady agenda going on by people to add fuel to the fire just to rile people up.

The media is not manipulating people to revolt in the streets. Nor do any mainstream media execs have an agenda to cause revolts in the streets.

People are revolting in the streets because they know, and have seen with their own eyes that their political leaders have failed them, have allowed mass immigration which has contributed to the decay of society.

There are parts of Germany where you think you're in Turkey. There are parts of England where you think you're in India or Pakistan. There are parts of Spain where Africans dominate the street view. Same for Italy. Go to a Spanish supermarket and you'll find Romanian and Russian food offered. That's not the main problem of course, the main problem is crime, limited resources that are handed to immigrants.

The people who revolt in the streets feel their country was taken from them. They do not realize that mass migration has paid taxes, and had many positive effects. They only see the negatives, crime, resource depletion, and so forth.

The media has in fact eulogized and defended mass migration religiously, as has private business, capitalism, and politics. This has led to the influx and the problems all the EU, and the US have now. I have yet to see an honest in depth media report on the full negative effects of migration, a business leader apologize for asking for mass migration for cheap labour, or a politician apologize for being instrumental in bringing mass migration to their country. It will never happen.

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1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

There are parts of Germany where you think you're in Turkey.

I think we need to start exploring the concept "what is a tribe?" in deeper philosophical depths.

Personally, I barely speak to my own siblings due to sibling hostility / rivalries.

If family members can be hostile towards you, what difference does it make if you are surrounded by people of different ethnicities?

When people are attacked, people do come together. Historically, people couldn't survive without protection from the tribe. But is it really still the case in the modern age?

I haven't made too many "farang" friends in Thailand. I don't trust people here just because they are not Thai and come from the same country as me or are Caucasian. You need to be wary of everyone, and often Thais are nicer people. Look at all the comments on this forum by farangs who hate all other farangs.

Realistically, how much does it matter who you are surrounded by?

"Culture" is available mostly online now anyway.

I don't care about Germany and the UK. I will never visit there.

I wanted to visit Italy, but I might give it a pass. You can find good pizza in Bangkok and I will just watch some Fellini films for my dose of Italian culture.

I really don't care anymore.

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Finchina67 I live in Barrow and have to address some points on your post regarding Ellie Reynolds. This girl destroyed many people in Barrow with her lies of Grooming and assaults by Asian men. She accused an Ex boyfriend of raping her again all lies, her injuries were self inflicted even to the extent of going to our local BnQ and buying a hammer to hit herself. She was jailed for 8 n a half years but served 4 she blighted our town. Money in an appeal fund set up from locals went missing over 23 k. Severn thousand was paid back to the trustee. Now because of her, girls will be scared of reporting cases as they will be looked on as liars because of what she did.

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Video mentions Anti-natalism + other issues that have lead to the current situation in Europe.

10 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Finchina67 I live in Barrow and have to address some points on your post regarding Ellie Reynolds. This girl destroyed many people in Barrow with her lies of Grooming and assaults by Asian men. She accused an Ex boyfriend of raping her again all lies, her injuries were self inflicted even to the extent of going to our local BnQ and buying a hammer to hit herself. She was jailed for 8 n a half years but served 4 she blighted our town. Money in an appeal fund set up from locals went missing over 23 k. Severn thousand was paid back to the trustee. Now because of her, girls will be scared of reporting cases as they will be looked on as liars because of what she did.

Interesting. I did a search but could not verify. Do you have links or sources for this? If this is correct then it is very very bad for the other victims.

Reynolds’ core account of prolonged child sexual exploitation in Barrow by a group that included Joman Miah is treated as credible by mainstream reporting and is consistent with the later convictions of the same men for similar offences against other girls. The police/CPS response to her 2018 report was widely criticised as inadequate (arresting the complainant the next day and declining to pursue the abuse allegations).

She is not the person who was convicted of fabricating a high-profile grooming/trafficking story and self-harming. That was Eleanor Williams. Confusion between the two names is common online.

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10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Personally, I barely speak to my own siblings due to sibling hostility / rivalries.

If family members can be hostile towards you, what difference does it make if you are surrounded by people of different ethnicities?

Ah yes, the usual issues, every family has these problems, from the Windsors to the Beckhams. However, clearly ethnicity matters a lot.

Yes, the farang hostility is a real thing, but I've made a few good friends in Thailand, thai and farang. I also don't care much for nationalities anymore, though it does make a difference, noticeably so if someone is from your own country. It's just easier to connect.

But yes, we can connect with anyone if we are honest, and show loving kindness, the Dalai Lama, that great man, has taught us. I'm watching his channel now. Wonderful.

Illegal AND LEGAL immigration is the death blow to EU culture, and the EU itself.

MASS-MIGRATION is just beginning.

You ain't seen nothing.....yet.

The US Army has been studying and preparing for this, for many decades.

The US Army knows what is about to happen when water resources dwindle, when global temperatures skyrocket past a wet-bulb temp suitable for habitation of many parts of the globe.

What?

You think this is a JOKE???

Polish politician warns illegal invaders: "Our soldiers can use live bullets now. So do not come to the Polish border. Do not harm our soldiers because you will be dead. Shot dead."

Common sense.

If you've ever wondered how retarded the left are...

If you wonder who the guy is:
Ron Mushiso, a Conservative councillor for Chiswick Gunnersbury. Ron is based as <deleted> and believes in objective evidence.

1 hour ago, FinChin67 said:

Interesting. I did a search but could not verify. Do you have links or sources for this? If this is correct then it is very very bad for the other victims.

Reynolds’ core account of prolonged child sexual exploitation in Barrow by a group that included Joman Miah is treated as credible by mainstream reporting and is consistent with the later convictions of the same men for similar offences against other girls. The police/CPS response to her 2018 report was widely criticised as inadequate (arresting the complainant the next day and declining to pursue the abuse allegations).

She is not the person who was convicted of fabricating a high-profile grooming/trafficking story and self-harming. That was Eleanor Williams. Confusion between the two names is common online.

Sorry FinChina67 i looked back on your post i made a mistake. Ellie Williams lied but Ellie Reynolds did not. She is now her a Reform councillor in Barrow her grooming was ignored by our local police and social services. She has fought for years to have her groomers convicted so far they have not been arrested.

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5 hours ago, FinChin67 said:

Polish politician warns illegal invaders: "Our soldiers can use live bullets now. So do not come to the Polish border. Do not harm our soldiers because you will be dead. Shot dead."

This guy sounds like he is at war with these people and considers them an invasion.

No "wokeness" from this guy.

Complete opposite attitude of most other EU countries.

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This guy has observed that not all of those who entered Ceuta were Moroccans.

Some of them appear to be from other parts of Africa.

And Morocco does not want them back, so Spain is forced to deal with them.

Yeah, so Morocco doesn't need to be "woke", but Spain does.

Makes a lot of sense.

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Migration can be legal or illegal. Most political platforms vary migration to meet a countries existing needs and social status. The issue today is mass illegal migration, rather than a controlled migration.

Mass illegal migration can lead to increasing legal issues such as crime, political platforms and cultural changes. Whereas, legal migration can address these issues.

Most modern Country's engage in legal migration, however also have to battle the effects illegal migration. Thus we can expect to see more Country's, such as Poland, establishing a staunch platform to deter it.

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6 minutes ago, Zimar said:

Whereas, legal migration can address these issues.

Even legal migration has issues.

If one group settles in one area and comprises a large percentage of the population, they will not integrate. They will eventually want to impose their own laws and customs and/or secede.

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3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

This guy has observed that not all of those who entered Ceuta were Moroccans.

Some of them appear to be from other parts of Africa.

And Morocco does not want them back, so Spain is forced to deal with them.

Yeah, so Morocco doesn't need to be "woke", but Spain does.

Makes a lot of sense.

Its only a matter of time before the storm the channel into the UK. Its not a case if, its when. All fighting age men. As the video says no females or children.

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17 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

All fighting age men. As the video says no females or children.

The females will join them later?

Is an all out war between Muslims and UK pureblood residents really a likely scenario?

Wouldn't that cause all the Muslims in other EU countries to be deported for fear the same thing can happen there?

If major fighting occurs in any one EU country, all the other EU countries will copy Poland's stance?

I don't think it's very likely.

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This guy is proposing to reverse the low birth rates ... ie the root cause of mass migration in the first place.

Falling birth rates in Britain are no longer an abstract concern but an existential threat. He explores potential solutions - from state incentives for parenthood to emulating Israel’s model. Throughout his monologue, Colin keeps returning to the uncomfortable question: if the British do not reverse course, who will replace us?

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