2 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

"Normal women" rarely go into bars anywhere in the world unless with a partner or in a group.

You only have to put yourself in the position of a woman and imagine walking into a bar full of the posters on here to understand why.

Normal (like minded) women just out for a bit of fun, do go into bars, and fun to meet. May even develope a relationship with them, or not, even when not looking for one. Depends how good the sex is

Do agree with second half of post, and wouldn't attract the interest of any woman. I wouldn't want meet most posters, especially if I was a woman. Maybe if I was gay or bi, as seems to be quite a few members swinging that way.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by KhunLA

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Finances need to be there for any kind of relationship to exist.

Didn't I just say that?

And doesn't every hooker in the world insist on that?

Edited August 3Aug 3 by BritManToo

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Didn't I just say that?

And doesn't every hooker in the world insist on that?

Thai woman down the street has a stall.

She's there at 5:30 or maybe even earlier and still there in the evening.

Some Thai woman are incredibly hard-working.

Sorry, what did you say?

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Thai woman down the street has a stall.

She's there at 5:30 or maybe even earlier and still there in the evening.

Some Thai woman are incredibly hard-working.

Sorry, what did you say?

Yep, when met wife, she was working 12 hr day, 7 days a week usually, with sis's food stall.

Daughter was 16 hrs days, 6 days a week, till finally getting present job. Normal hrs, 8-10 hr, nice buffet dinner provided, and weekends off.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by KhunLA

18 hours ago, Celsius said:

There are some Thai women with decent careers that still do want a foreigner. Ageism is a real thing in Thailand, so anything over 35 you'd have a decent chance.

Here's one ... a Thai Chinese 46 year old GILF with MBA. I am always proud to post my wife. This was taken yesterday on a beautiful day in amazing toronto ❤️

Let me guess, she doesn't have the passport yet.

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Didn't I just say that?

And doesn't every hooker in the world insist on that?

Your experience has been very limited. Other than your broken marriage, it seems that you have been consorting with prostitutes in the main. That's your experience and so all you can see. Of course you see only 'whores', you've paid for sex with virtually every woman with whom you've had sex.

I've paid none.

In reality, I lived with a 'hooker' as a teenager and she paid for everything. The hookers that you pay, are often paying to take care of the people whom they love.

That's what they do when they love. Men have their role, but it isn't to pay for everything. That's just a short cut. You can see how that turns out for many.

25 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Normal (like minded) women

So not normal then 😊

Seriously though, to each his own. I don't go out drinking, so I wouldn't be looking for a woman in a bar.

That's a kind of teenage thing. Where they are more pliable after a drink or two.

You might think people would grow out of that.

4 hours ago, wavodavo said:

I suggest you take a walk dawn along beach road after 11pm Sam.There's a heap of normal women there on the beachfront.

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4 hours ago, wavodavo said:

I suggest you take a walk dawn along beach road after 11pm Sam.There's a heap of normal women there on the beachfront.

I suggest you stay on topic davey boy Tis barsOp is looking for a drinken mate bit

4 hours ago, wavodavo said:

I suggest you take a walk dawn along beach road after 11pm Sam.There's a heap of normal women there on the beachfront.

I suggest you stay on topic davey boy OP asks re drinken mate in bars not on the beach, nite club or elsewhere, you know nowt!

3 minutes ago, Olmate said:

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I suggest you stay on topic davey boy Tis barsOp is looking for a drinken mate bit

I suggest you stay on topic davey boy OP asks re drinken mate in bars not on the beach, nite club or elsewhere, you know nowt!

You drunk or having a stroke ?

2 hours ago, OneManShow said:

Everybody selling, some cash & some finance (is that what you are looking for) 🤣

Eh! English speaker here!

22 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Thai woman down the street has a stall.

She's there at 5:30 or maybe even earlier and still there in the evening.

Some Thai woman are incredibly hard-working.

Sorry, what did you say?

Exactly. Most of the women I've met, been with and know here have all been workers. Government, farmers, noodle shops, selling chicken they made, laundry, teachers, and others. One freelancer I met at the gym here.

Most women here are workers. Only a small percentage are hookers or leeches. Many men are also leeches, making the women pay for everything while they contribute nothing, and then they get bored with that good thing and move on to do the same with other women. Even some of the foreigners. They come here with little money, promise the world and give nothing , and go from one naive woman to another.

The woman that rents my girlfriend's dad's room in front of her house wakes up before dawn and leaves by the time we get up, selling various meat on a stick on the highway until she runs out.

As far as the farmers, it's the hardest work I've known, helping on my ex's and girlfriend's family farms. Up early, work in the heat until lunch, work again until dinner, go home, eat, sleep and repeat daily. Subsistence mostly, just getting by until the next week, selling a little, bartering the rest, and on to the next harvest.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by fredwiggy

2 hours ago, Expat68 said:

if you want to meet a lady, friend of a friend is the best route to go down

In a 100% of cases girls always recommended a girl less good looking than them so a waste of time

Try a dating app- but be prepared to be very vigilant as in my experience I have found that many ladies using those apps are looking for business

I am sure there are some lovely ladies using , for example, thaifriendly- but I suspect they are in the minorty

18 hours ago, Grecian said:

Nice. How do you look by comparison? I doubt a massive mismatch which other searchers often overlook

Mine has no degrees but she did go to the college of knowledge, that's why she knows more the Google.

There are only two exceptions to the pay for play spectrum on which 98% of men are situated, ie those who are married or who use hookers, and everything inbetween, and those two exceptions are:

1. True love relationships

2. Physical sexual attraction relationships

Both are exceptionally rare and unattainable, with desirable women, for most men.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by Cameroni

19 hours ago, Celsius said:

There are some Thai women with decent careers that still do want a foreigner. Ageism is a real thing in Thailand, so anything over 35 you'd have a decent chance.

Here's one ... a Thai Chinese 46 year old GILF with MBA. I am always proud to post my wife. This was taken yesterday on a beautiful day in amazing toronto ❤️

Why you splashed red color to her face? I'm sure she didn't like it

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

You drunk or having a stroke ?

You n Sam, nice 😂😂😂

21 hours ago, Celsius said:

There are some Thai women with decent careers that still do want a foreigner. Ageism is a real thing in Thailand, so anything over 35 you'd have a decent chance.

Here's one ... a Thai Chinese 46 year old GILF with MBA. I am always proud to post my wife. This was taken yesterday on a beautiful day in amazing toronto ❤️

You're a lucky guy!

22 hours ago, CallumWK said:

Because of the incoherent post you made.

Dating apps are the real professionals, while nurses in hospital are from a well off family, as their studies are not cheap, who look down of foreigners

Well, you've got it all worked out, Mr. Living in a dream world!

6 months ago you couldn't spell "demographer", and now you are one!

The well known Thermae freelancers bar in Bangkok is full of "normal" women, seeking out to make the extra buck, I have often been "entertained" with pick ups from this bar , who where store owners, administrative clerks, sales girls, bank branch managers and even once a police officer !! So even if you fall into that fine lady who has a normal day job...how do you know what she will be upto behind your back ?

4 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

So even if you fall into that fine lady who has a normal day job...how do you know what she will be upto behind your back ?

Despite what many claim on here, in most relationships you will adding your resources to the pot. So she theoretically won't need to do that anymore.

And don't they need to be out until 3 AM to be working there? How can you not know if you're living with someone?

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Despite what many claim on here, in most relationships you will adding your resources to the pot. So she theoretically won't need to do that anymore.

And don't they need to be out until 3 AM to be working there? How can you not know if you're living with someone?

Let's hope you are right my friend...

Have we defined "normal" yet? Seems many (cough) have problems of one sort or another.

21 hours ago, Kinnock said:

My Missus is regularly asked by 'non-bar' Thai women "how did you meet your foreign man"?

Their next question is normally "does he have any single friends".

There's still a belief in the myth that foreign men make better husbands, reinforced by the stirling efforts of most Thai husbands to have multiple affairs.

These questions are not from HiSo heiresses, but from shop workers, nurses, bank assistants etc, and they're just looking for a decent man to share their life with. Of course, like women everywhere, they'd prefer a man who has the means to provide a decent life.

As I'm clearly older than my Missus, I don't think age is a major concern, although I'm in reasonable shape, but she's a 10 while I must be around a 5 on a good day.

I think having Thai friends would be the ideal way to meet a good woman, and if your social circle is all falang men, I doubt any 'good girl' would have the confidence to speak with you.

does he have any single friends”. Literally every one of my missus’ friends has asked me and her that question on more than one occasion.

The question is, are you a normal man? You try to find in bars.

However you can meet a "normal woman" in a bar, you dont know as you cut of any further contact, when they ask you "how long you are in Pattaya"

So basically you dont know if you met a "normal woman". You dont take the time.

You already know how to talk Thai? That would be a great help, as many dont speak English and for sure no French. Some learned maybe and are dying to try, but you dont know.

Can you have the patience? As you cut down women in bars. Their vocabulary could be low, so they start "how long you are in Pattaya".

My wifes vocabulary was very low in beginning, she just learned some basic English.

She had started a course for her work, she was an officer.

So I took the time , too explain words, write it down ,translate into Thai , speaking slow , articulated and so on and so on.

Also the fear of connecting, are you a scammer, a butterfly? But depends on the person of course.

My wife has 2 nieces, both educated, one is herb specialist, doesnt speak English, but she is able to learn that in jiffy time, she is super bright enough. Told my wife and she told her, however up till now didnt do. The other one is pharmacist and can speak English.

However then you come to the issue of "normal women" and what they are thinking.

Everything plays a roll in it and for sure past. Patience is always the hot iron, however can go fast.

You never know with a woman. It is at first up to you. Cut or play.

Last week my wife asked me, if I would know someone for her college. Also high ranked officer.

Ok didnt go into that that much, as I dont want someone pointing their finger to me when it goes wrong.

Also not for the nieces, let them find their own way.

So as well for you Sam, if you see a "normal woman" in fi mall, start with "Hey, pai na."

See what it brings you, you have nothing too loose. Maybe you bring a lovely Thai smile on her face.

Sometimes I m flabbergasted by actions of Thai "normal" women, like they

want to touch my white skin !? Or I buy a bottle of whiskey and asked by 2 seller girls in a 7/11 if they could have a zip with me. Young enough to be my daughters ! One spoke English, the other not.

Or get an invitation from store owner to go out !

2 Muslim seller girls in a store giggling and telling me "you are handsome ", uhhh?

Sometimes I wonder, do I experience it, as mostly they know Im connected or they just dont care ?

I do run into those situations and I think it is fun.

40 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Despite what many claim on here, in most relationships you will adding your resources to the pot. So she theoretically won't need to do that anymore.

And don't they need to be out until 3 AM to be working there? How can you not know if you're living with someone?

Housewives Club in Chiang Mai used to open in the afternoon, so they could earn when their husband was out at work

Gone now!

It was in one of the Soi's off Nimman.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by BritManToo

24 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Housewives Club in Chiang Mai used to open in the afternoon, so they could earn when their husband was out at work

Maybe their husbands weren't earning much.

Apparently, many of the bargirls in pattaya have bfs who pick them up after their shift. They know they're working there, but the money goes into the pot.

We come from countries with good wages, so it seems crazy to us.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Maybe their husbands weren't earning much.

TEFL teachers ?

1 hour ago, Sigmund said:

The well known Thermae freelancers bar in Bangkok is full of "normal" women, seeking out to make the extra buck, I have often been "entertained" with pick ups from this bar , who where store owners, administrative clerks, sales girls, bank branch managers and even once a police officer !! So even if you fall into that fine lady who has a normal day job...how do you know what she will be upto behind your back ?

I'm sure they told you that and you believed everything while you got to know them for a full 1 hour.

What a sad delusion fest

There should be a math equation that gives probablilities on farang men and thai gals relationships that compares the farangs age with the girls age, the farangs wallet with the girls wallet, the farangs jai dee, clean habits, thai speaking abilities and several other factors and spits out the probablity of a good relationship chances.

Bottom line is if farang is 45 y.o. and has a fat wallet and is not a total dirty idiot his odds of attracting a wide variety of thai girls for relationship/marriage are much greater than 70 y.o farang who is broke. Thai girls have many many good qualities including being very capable of dealing with reality.

Should she give up several years of youth knowing that in the end she will likely have to take care of aging farang and when he dies she gets nothing, The younger the girl the less chances she wants to waste her youth hoping for a payout that may well never come.

Many stories of farangs taken care of for years by a thai girl and then they die and whatever assets they have go to a kid or grandkid back in farang land and the gal gets nothing as farang never bothered with a will or just did not care as they would be dead.