I gave up seeking a partner yonks ago for some simple reasons:

I'm 67 years old, and no young, pretty Thai woman would be interested in me 'for love', and I don't exude dollar bills coming out of my sweat pores. I also couldn't be bothered dealing with the Thai BFs, STDs from him etc.

An older woman may not have a BF, but she would only want me for a pay-out when I die, and in any case, what would I find attractive in a 50-60 old woman? (and her in me if not for the $$).

Life is much (much!) better on my own. I get to do what I want, spend my money how I want, live where I want etc. Women realise that there is absolutely nothing they can do to persuade me otherwise (even the gimp suit wouldn't convince me).

Some men don't seem to be able to function without the crutch of a woman (anatomically and psychologically!). I'm not one of them :)

Edited August 3Aug 3 by simon43

what would I find attractive in a 50-60 old woman?

I know. Unbelievable that some men go for 50 year old women. How do they sleep at night?

Or look in the mirror in the morning?

No self-respect.

On 8/2/2026 at 1:54 PM, CanadaSam said:

I've noticed that women with jobs at banks, hospitals, etc., simply do not frequent normal bars.

I'm so tired of the exact same bar lady questions "how long you in Pattaya" etc. etc.

I'd really like to try and meet a woman with a regular job, who is not a freelancer or bar lady!

Does anybody know of anyplace like that in Pattaya (or anywhere in Thailand for that matter).

You're welcome to PM me if you don't want it to be public knowledge for obvious reasons!

Thanks for the helpl!

I understand you are not looking for sex , just company.? I’ve seen groups of ladies out together having a drink or in restaurants. Thai ladies who are not out to earn do not generally go to normal bars , and if they did, everyone, including Thai staff would think she was hustling. Especially hotel bars which can be very nice/ luxurious. I’d say it’s hard. Maybe join a gym, aerobics, something that all sorts go to.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

what would I find attractive in a 50-60 old woman?

I know. Unbelievable that some men go for 50 year old women. How do they sleep at night?

Or look in the mirror in the morning?

No self-respect

I'd say the guys who interested in the old ducks, it's budget thing. These guys have no money to spend money on her, to buy her nice gifts, go out to nice restaurants, shopping etc., spoil her.

On 8/2/2026 at 2:04 PM, save the frogs said:

The best women are the ones that never frequent bars at all.

Very debatable.

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Maybe their husbands weren't earning much.

Apparently, many of the bargirls in pattaya have bfs who pick them up after their shift. They know they're working there, but the money goes into the pot.

We come from countries with good wages, so it seems crazy to us.

The young thai boyfriends won't be paying the girls, may be the other way around, age and looks are factors

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I know. Unbelievable that some men go for 50 year old women. How do they sleep at night?

Or look in the mirror in the morning?

No self-respect.

My partner isn’t over 50 (neither am I) but “no self-respect” from the author of the “Thai girl was totally shameless” thread is comedy gold!

7 minutes ago, Chalky0w said:

My partner isn’t over 50 (neither am I) but “no self-respect” from the author of the “Thai girl was totally shameless” thread is comedy gold!

And the fact that women in their 40's and above are with you because of you a lot more than those under 30 who are all there for the cash and yes, possibly have other men on the side when you're not around. Many of them independent from working, less greedy, more willing to cook meals for you, a lot less likely to stray and still countless women over 40 who are still in great shape and pretty.

19 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

If you do not speak fluent Thai, you have zero chance to meet educated women in LOS. Pattaya just makes it worse.

A hospital or dental visit would prove that statement wrong!

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

A hospital or dental visit would prove that statement wrong!

As well as the fact that educated women here are more likely to speak English well.

19 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

If you do not speak fluent Thai, you have zero chance to meet educated women in LOS

❌Incorrect, of course it helps but not essential, educated women speak English

4 hours ago, geisha said:

I understand you are not looking for sex , just company.? I’ve seen groups of ladies out together having a drink or in restaurants. Thai ladies who are not out to earn do not generally go to normal bars , and if they did, everyone, including Thai staff would think she was hustling. Especially hotel bars which can be very nice/ luxurious. I’d say it’s hard. Maybe join a gym, aerobics, something that all sorts go to.

There's a few single Thai women in our local expat hiking club.

Though I think they're hunting rather than hiking.

On 8/2/2026 at 7:15 PM, CallumWK said:

Dating apps are the real professionals

Prostitutes

On 8/2/2026 at 7:15 PM, CallumWK said:

while nurses in hospital are from a well off family, as their studies are not cheap, who look down of foreigners

While riding playing the cowgirl

Edited August 3Aug 3 by ArchieBunker

9 hours ago, simon43 said:

Life is much (much!) better on my own. I get to do what I want, spend my money how I want, live where I want etc.

Yes, in a relationship there needs to be constant compromise.

One Youtuber I was following just left Thailand and moved to Vietnam.

You can't just do what you want if you're hitched up. He deliberately stayed single to have more freedom. He's 59.

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Housewives Club in Chiang Mai used to open in the afternoon, so they could earn when their husband was out at work

Gone now!

It was in one of the Soi's off Nimman.

Remember it well!!!

18 hours ago, novacova said:

environment

18 hours ago, novacova said:

environment

18 hours ago, novacova said:

why would anyone want to live in such an abnormal environment.

Because we are special

On 8/2/2026 at 7:15 PM, CallumWK said:

Because of the incoherent post you made.

Dating apps are the real professionals, while nurses in hospital are from a well off family, as their studies are not cheap, who look down of foreigners

On 8/2/2026 at 7:15 PM, CallumWK said:

while nurses in hospital are from a well off family, as their studies are not cheap, who look down of foreigners

so................................. NOT TRUE !

47 minutes ago, wombat said:

Because we are special

“Special” with “special” needs.

8 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I know. Unbelievable that some men go for 50 year old women. How do they sleep at night?

Or look in the mirror in the morning?

No self-respect.

Beauty is (initially) skin-deep. I have a few Thai female friends in that age group (at the Burmese migrant community centre). But there is no way that I want to jump into bed with them :)

On 8/2/2026 at 6:54 PM, CanadaSam said:

I've noticed that women with jobs at banks, hospitals, etc., simply do not frequent normal bars.

I'm so tired of the exact same bar lady questions "how long you in Pattaya" etc. etc.

I'd really like to try and meet a woman with a regular job, who is not a freelancer or bar lady!

Does anybody know of anyplace like that in Pattaya (or anywhere in Thailand for that matter).

You're welcome to PM me if you don't want it to be public knowledge for obvious reasons!

Thanks for the helpl!

Night market in BKK

1 hour ago, novacova said:

“Special” with “special” needs.

Absolutely.... you know what I'm talking about

Old mate down the pub reckons... if you spot something you like tell her that you think she is cute and you would like to take her and a friend for Mookata... good girls only go out with a friend in tow on a date to maintain an illusion of being a good girl to those around.

7 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'd say the guys who interested in the old ducks, it's budget thing. These guys have no money to spend money on her, to buy her nice gifts, go out to nice restaurants, shopping etc., spoil her.

Sometimes they really are light in the wallet. Other times they are not, they just genuinely think this 50 or 60 year old Thai woman is really the best they can do.

I mean I get it, it's hard to get a desirable woman, it's not easy, but to go for a 50 or 60 year old? I mean unless you're over 70 yourself, then fair enough. But for guys in their 50s I find it incomprehensible how some can go for a 50 or 60 year old woman. And it does happen.

Just the other day I saw a video of this English guy in his 50s, who spent 100 million baht building up the land of this 50 year old unattractive Thai woman. 100 million baht! For a completely below average Thai woman in her 50s. It's mind blowing.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Just the other day I saw a video of this English guy in his 50s, who spent 100 million baht building up the land of this 50 year old unattractive Thai woman. 100 million baht! For a completely below average Thai woman in her 50s. It's mind blowing.

The large sum aside, the closer in age, the less likely she is to bail out after the house is built -- and in HER NAME.

Young hot girls are high risk to settle down with.

Guys with big egos don't get this or try their luck anyway. And these are the guys that most often get burned in Thailand.

If looks are the most important things to you, I suggest you stay single and use the P4P route. But don't shout it from the rooftops on here. You will be labeled a dirty sexpat.

Or try your luck, within reason. If you look like a fat sack of poop and she's 40 years younger and looks like a model, good luck.

1 hour ago, simon43 said:

Beauty is (initially) skin-deep. I have a few Thai female friends in that age group (at the Burmese migrant community centre). But there is no way that I want to jump into bed with them :)

Yes, it is. But you do need to have an attraction component, it seems to me, to be with someone long term. Yes, beauty is skin-deep, and other factors should be more important, but initial attraction has to be a given, a foundation without which a relationship can't really exist.

If the woman has no beauty and nobody's attracted to her then you're just like one of these Thai women who sleep with fat, 63 year old men, for no other reason but because they think they can extract some money. If you sleep with a 50 or 60 year old woman just because she'll let you have sex, it's almost cynical. Unless the guy is over 70 which of course changes things, then you have carte blanche and can do whatever you like, hook up with a 50 or 60 year old, spend 100 million baht on them. It's fine, because as we all know even for men there is a wall, a point beyond which no woman will be attracted to them, and so love and physical relationships become an impossibility. In that arena anything goes of course. But guys in their 50s who go with Thai girls in their 50s or 60s they clearly lack ambition or self-respect or confidence or something, I mean that's just cynical.

Edited August 4Aug 4 by Cameroni

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Sometimes they really are light in the wallet. Other times they are not, they just genuinely think this 50 or 60 year old Thai woman is really the best they can do.

I mean I get it, it's hard to get a desirable woman, it's not easy, but to go for a 50 or 60 year old? I mean unless you're over 70 yourself, then fair enough. But for guys in their 50s I find it incomprehensible how some can go for a 50 or 60 year old woman. And it does happen.

Just the other day I saw a video of this English guy in his 50s, who spent 100 million baht building up the land of this 50 year old unattractive Thai woman. 100 million baht! For a completely below average Thai woman in her 50s. It's mind blowing.

The closer a woman is to your age, the better you'll relate, and you grow old together, like that man will with his wife, instead of the man dying and the woman replacing him quickly in the house he built.

The choice between a woman that's closer to your age that will be a partner and a woman who's 25-40 years younger that's only there for what you can buy her is a no brainer. Most of these are with the men so they can show off what they have to their "friends", who aren't friends but jealous gossipers. These men are smart and happier, more content and relaxed in life.

Their woman is also less likely to have other men on the side, especially if he leaves the country for work or visiting family back home. A man 55 or so with a woman who's 35 or so isn't a bad match as she's mature and been around in life, more settled than her 20's counterparts. What you also don't see are the women through their eyes. Also what they see of you in theirs.

Everyone gets old, and men are more likely to think they're more attractive than they actually are, and the ones with very young girls are fooling themselves thinking they're there for you. Very much more so in this country.

Edited August 4Aug 4 by fredwiggy

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

The large sum aside, the closer in age, the less likely she is to bail out after the house is built -- and in HER NAME.

Young hot girls are high risk to settle down with.

Guys with big egos don't get this or try their luck anyway. And these are the guys that most often get burned in Thailand.

If looks are the most important things to you, I suggest you stay single and use the P4P route. But don't shout it from the rooftops on here. You will be labeled a dirty sexpat.

Or try your luck, within reason. If you look like a fat sack of poop and she's 40 years younger and looks like a model, good luck.

Yes, that's a fair point. The younger and more attractive she is the more risk she'll cheat, leave and so on. But to base your mate choice on this is almost like buying a beat up terrible car because you think you'll have an accident down the line. Who does that?

Of course there are risks with women and cheating and fidelity are now pandemics which trump corona, but would you really choose a 50 or 60 year old you're not attracted to because of that? I mean that's just incomprehensible to me. Life's too short.

12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Everyone gets old, and men are more likely to think they're more attractive than they actually are, and the ones with very young girls are fooling themselves thinking they're there for you. Very much more so in this country.

My wallet is still as attractive now I'm 70, as it was when I was 35.

Looks wise, I'm still a 4!

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My wallet is still as attractive now I'm 70, as it was when I was 35.

Looks wise, I'm still a 4!

You go with what works, or you change things. If both are comfortable with the arrangement, and no one's being used or deceived, that's as good as it gets.

"Normal"? What the hell? Subjectivity, your "normal" is different than Patters ho row "normal", so get over it. You want some same same from home "normal" go home. 75 year old menopausal granny is your "normal" good luck with that.