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FDA approves first mRNA-based flu vaccine

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1 minute ago, D Peter said:

if you get Flu, it is possible you'll die.

Yep "**it happens and then you die 😋

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    There should be a large independent survey to ascertain what percentage of the population still actually believes this BS.

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    Basically it gives you the flu. No thanks!

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    And I'm an antivaxxer, life can be so unfair!

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2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not correct Sir. It s a natural body function.

The Flu (influenza) is a series of symptoms that show the body is trying to get back into balance. These symptoms should be encouraged to run their course. And, although uncomfortable at times, they should not be suppressed.

Not just uncomfortable at times, it leads to hundreds of thousand deaths worldwide every year.

1 minute ago, johng said:

Yep "**it happens and then you die 😋

c/o D Peter; if you get Flu, it is possible you'll die.

Far better - if possible - to avoid The Flu altogether. But it's not always that easy.

The way to avoid the worst of it, although it is the cure, is an appreciation of what keeps us in tip-top condition. The flu is the body saying 'I have enough junk, and I need to get rid of it.' Especially just before the winter months kick in.

No injection, be it a traditional vaccine or ultra-modern mRNA jab, should be taken.

2 hours ago, johng said:

'natural immunity' something 'the science' is trying very hard

to debunk these days.

LOL.... please share with us where an actual scientist says 'natural immunity' doesn't work?

15 minutes ago, msbkk said:

Not just uncomfortable at times, it leads to hundreds of thousand deaths worldwide every year.

The Flu don't kill anyone. It is not an illness/sickness/disease. It is the body initiating a cure - essentially to remove stored-up toxicity - to get the body into balance.

12 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No injection, be it a traditional vaccine or ultra-modern mRNA jab, should be taken.

There are some risks of severe allergic reactions with the new mRNA flu jab.

But there are some high risk groups with the flu. People over 65, children under 5, pregnant women, etc ...

So avoiding the jab if you are in a high risk group is a risk probably much higher than having a severe allergic reaction. Or maybe not. You would need to calculate the risks of both maybe.

It's not as simple as saying no one should ever take it. That's false.

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The Flu don't kill anyone.

AI disagrees.

Who you gonna trust? A human being or a computer program?

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1 minute ago, gamb00ler said:

LOL.... please share with us where an actual scientist says 'natural immunity' doesn't work?

Natural immunity is the body's defence and maintenance system. It needs to be continually updated by taking in the different entities that ensure the body can keep in balance.

In saying the above; the body does adapt - and indeed has to - to stimuli, stress and environments.

What ruins natural immunity? Poor diet. Unclean water. Poor living and working environment. Prolonged exposure to less than good air. Body insults; essentially accidents and medical interventions. And general medicines. Personal stress. 5G exposure?

14 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

AI disagrees.

Who you gonna trust? A human being or a computer program?

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It is not The Flu that is harmful. The flu symptoms; coughing, sneezes, rash, sore throat, high temperature etc is the cure. If AI thinks differently; it is wrong.

4 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I "don't understand the science", do I? Ah, too bad, I'll make do with my innate common sense.


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So prove you have any common sense.

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1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not correct Sir. It s a natural body function.

The Flu (influenza) is a series of symptoms that show the body is trying to get back into balance. These symptoms should be encouraged to run their course. And, although uncomfortable at times, they should not be suppressed.

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2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The Flu don't kill anyone. It is not an illness/sickness/disease. It is the body initiating a cure - essentially to remove stored-up toxicity - to get the body into balance.

This is your opinion which might not be correct.

1 hour ago, msbkk said:

This is your opinion which might not be correct.

Of course it's my opinion. Based on facts, not mythical, imaginary concepts of 120 years ago, that are taught to wide-eyed wanna-be white-coated student doctors.

Can you catch a cold?

Can you catch The Flu?

Can you catch any illness?

Can you catch anysickness?

Can you catch any disease?

I say 'NO' you cannot. And any white-coat that tells you you can, is either on the take/make or is dumb as they come. Or both.

Further info; www.canyoucatchacold.com Or read Dr Roytas book of the same name.

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3 hours ago, Tyke said:

So prove you have any common sense.

I ignore recommendations from pharmaceutical companies which have collectively paid tens of billions of dollars in fines for:

  • Running marketing campaigns that exaggerated a drug's benefits while heavily downplaying or completely omitting dangerous side effects;

  • Funding favorable scientific articles written by corporate staff, then paying independent doctors to put their names on them to look unbiased;

  • Intentionally burying negative clinical trial data so the public and doctors only saw the positive outcomes;

  • Minimizing major public health risks, such as downplaying the highly addictive nature of certain prescription medications.

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

AI disagrees.

Who you gonna trust? A human being or a computer program?

A computer program which has been programmed by a human. The plot thickens…

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Thank you POTUS Trump.

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

A computer program which has been programmed by a human. The plot thickens…

I'm hoping in the future more pharmaceutical reps and even doctors are removed from the loop and there is no middleman between AI and the consumer.

Presumably, AI will not be programmed to extract as much wealth from the consumer as possible. Hopefully.

The field of medicine is a bit perplexing to me.

One study I just looked at ... they claim they may find a way to MIMIC sleep in the brain, which means we won't need to sleep anymore.

Seems a far cry from flu vaccines that barely work and with possible serious side effects.

Is it wishful thinking or could we one day have a bunch of miraculous medical breakthroughs that completely change our lives? Imagine not having to sleep.

Or do we really want to believe that this is as good as it gets?

Every Big Pharma drug has a long list of dangerous side effects, they are over-prescribed, and we should go hide under the bed before Big Pharma Boogie Man gets us?

I'm still waiting for a major breakthrough. This flu vaccine is boring.

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Safe and effective I'm sure. Never been any problems related to mRNA jabs.

8 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I ignore recommendations from pharmaceutical companies which have collectively paid tens of billions of dollars in fines for:

  • Running marketing campaigns that exaggerated a drug's benefits while heavily downplaying or completely omitting dangerous side effects;

  • Funding favorable scientific articles written by corporate staff, then paying independent doctors to put their names on them to look unbiased;

  • Intentionally burying negative clinical trial data so the public and doctors only saw the positive outcomes;

  • Minimizing major public health risks, such as downplaying the highly addictive nature of certain prescription medications.

You can say anything to support your case but without specific examples and references to evidence that backs it up it is worthless especially if it only refers to the exceptional case rather than widespread abuse. So you won't be taking any drugs to save your life as well as any vaccinations then? Wait until you really need them old age.

4 minutes ago, Tyke said:

You can say anything to support your case but without specific examples and references to evidence that backs it up it is worthless especially if it only refers to the exceptional case rather than widespread abuse. So you won't be taking any drugs to save your life as well as any vaccinations then? Wait until you really need them old age.

And what vaxx poison would we need in old age?

Nature's larder has everything we need.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

And what vaxx poison would we need in old age?

Nature's larder has everything we need.

Oh right. You obviously believe that old age brings a strengthening of the immune system. Oh deary.

On 8/10/2026 at 11:12 AM, LukKrueng said:

So obviously he doesn't need no vaccine, does he?

That is one truly dumb statement.

I've never had polio......so does that mean I never needed to be vaccinated against it?????

13 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Of course it's my opinion. Based on facts, not mythical, imaginary concepts of 120 years ago, that are taught to wide-eyed wanna-be white-coated student doctors.

Can you catch a cold?

Can you catch The Flu?

Can you catch any illness?

Can you catch anysickness?

Can you catch any disease?

I say 'NO' you cannot. And any white-coat that tells you you can, is either on the take/make or is dumb as they come. Or both.

Further info; www.canyoucatchacold.com Or read Dr Roytas book of the same name.

First of all.

Roytas is NOT a medical doctor. He did not study any science or science related subjects.

Now the facts:

Roytas’ views challenge widely accepted scientific consensus. Mainstream medicine maintains that:

  • Respiratory viruses are contagious.

  • Transmission via droplets and aerosols is well‑documented.

  • Historical “failed contagion experiments” have methodological limitations.

His work is therefore influential in alternative‑health communities but not accepted in conventional medical science.

20 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

LOL.... please share with us where an actual scientist says 'natural immunity' doesn't work?

Just 2 quick examples of downplaying natural immunity there are many other examples...most of these shills now actually try to say they didn't actually say what they said aided and abetted by the 'fact check checkers' they think they have

'gotten away with it' but there are some who remember.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-why-covid-vaccines-work-better-than-natural-infection-alone-2021-5?op=1

Dr. Fauci explains why COVID-19 vaccines work much better than natural immunity to protect you from the coronavirus

and this

https://thepostmillennial.com/firm-answer-natural-immunity-fauci

No 'firm answer' from Fauci on why people with natural immunity need to get a COVID vaccine

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I'm hoping in the future more pharmaceutical reps and even doctors are removed from the loop and there is no middleman between AI and the consumer.

Presumably, AI will not be programmed to extract as much wealth from the consumer as possible. Hopefully.

Here is what the main man has to say about it. I found this to be a very interesting interview (the first part about the future of AI).

5 minutes ago, johng said:

Dr. Fauci explains why COVID-19 vaccines work much better than natural immunity to protect you from the coronavirus

"Natural immunity" doesn't mean anything.

Most people's natural immunity isn't that good because they are eating way too much junk food, drinking alcohol, not exercising.

So he's probably right for 80% of the population.

7 hours ago, Tyke said:

You can say anything to support your case but without specific examples and references to evidence that backs it up it is worthless especially if it only refers to the exceptional case rather than widespread abuse. So you won't be taking any drugs to save your life as well as any vaccinations then? Wait until you really need them old age.

I'm not trying to make any case, just stating facts which illustrate that pharmaceutical companies are private entities and therefore subject to the same principles as any private company, namely demand creation and customer loyalty consolidation.

In my old age, I will take as little medication as possible, as I do today.

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Here is what the main man has to say about it. I found this to be a very interesting interview (the first part about the future of AI).

Video is too long. No time to watch.

If AI is well-regulated, the medical system may potentially be far superior to what we have now.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Video is too long. No time to watch.

If AI is well-regulated, the medical system may potentially be far superior to what we have now.

Musk shares his predictions on what the world will look like in 10 years: a pure and absolute dystopia (an "age of abundance", as he calls it) where everyone will be on a universal high income and "work will be optional" because there will be no task humans currently do that AI won't do much better, therefore generating much more wealth which can be redistributed to the people – basically a mega-socialist tech state which really reminds me of Huxley's Brave New World.

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I tried to get a COVID-19 vaccine recently, unavailable.

Just got a flu vaccine.

But I'm thinking about the new shingles vaccine for it's known side effect of making people younger, but it's a bit pricey here. ☺️

USC Leonard Davis School

Study: Shingles Vaccine Linked to Slower Biological Aging in Older Adults

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