4 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

Please do share some of that dope you have with the rest of us. It's clearly some very good stuff. 👍🏼

I only smoke weed back when I'm home in Texas. Never here. What I said about hunting are facts.

Edited September 22Sep 22 by fredwiggy

6 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Say that you suddenly received some reliable information that, for reasons unknown, you had exactly one year left to live. At the same time, you received some news that you had come into a large sum of money. Or perhaps you already had a lot of money and did not need any more. The point was that you now had no major financial limitations. You were also in good health, and you knew that your health would remain strong for the duration of that one year.

What five or ten things might you try to achieve in that final year of your life, knowing that you had no financial or physical limitations? Would you try to go visit a lot of different places? Is there a list of adventurous things that you would like to achieve that you have not gotten to yet? Or have you pretty much done everything you wanted to do already? Or would you simply go somewhere quiet and relaxing and/or just stay in one place for the duration?

The first thing I will find out who's writing and asking such BS.

24 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Hunting isn't all about killing. I've hunted hundreds of times but only shot deer some of those times, and passed up thousands along the way. Being outside in nature is a large part of hunting, and hunters do more for the animals they hunt than anyone else.

Now you are starting again. This is hilarious! Ok, if you like to be out in nature, why not just pick berries and mushrooms instead of bringing a weapon? After, hunters do more for the animals than anyone else????? Really? So, now tell, Freddy! if the hunter not shoot, scare or kill the animal, what does the hunter do?

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

What I said about hunting are facts

The word hunter according to the dictionary: "A person or an animal that hunts animals for food or for sport."

But never mind. Just a small technical detail.

12 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Now you are starting again. This is hilarious! Ok, if you like to be out in nature, why not just pick berries and mushrooms instead of bringing a weapon? After, hunters do more for the animals than anyone else????? Really? So, now tell, Freddy! if the hunter not shoot, scare or kill the animal, what does the hunter do?

It's so weird. I always thought that people who go out into the forest to care for animals carry things like food, water, first aid and medical supplies. They also free them from traps. I never realized they carry a gun and call themselves hunters. Amazing, you learn something new everyday. 😁

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

Now you are starting again. This is hilarious! Ok, if you like to be out in nature, why not just pick berries and mushrooms instead of bringing a weapon? After, hunters do more for the animals than anyone else????? Really? So, now tell, Freddy! if the hunter not shoot, scare or kill the animal, what does the hunter do?

Starting what? Explaining what hunting is because you don't understand it? Hunter dollars are part of thousands of businesses, along with buying land to save as preserves for the animals. Hunters also keep the deer species in various areas in the carrying capacity of the land they inhabit.

Key Factors That Shape Carrying Capacity

• Forage Supply: The amount of grass, plants, and edible crops available for animals to eat.

• Water Availability: Reliable access to clean drinking water sources across all seasons.

• Climate and Weather: Temperature patterns and rainfall amounts that dictate how fast plants grow.

• Soil Health: The quality and fertility of the dirt, which affects plant nutrition and regrowth.

Why It Matters

• Ecosystem Balance: Keeping animal numbers at or below the carrying capacity allows the land to heal and plants to regrow.

• Preventing Overgrazing: Putting too many animals on the land leads to soil erosion, plant loss, and muddy or ruined pastures.

• Animal Health: Animals living within a balanced carrying capacity get enough nutrients to stay strong, disease-free, and productive.

• Land developers are the largest detriment to all animals. People who tear down millions of trees to build subdivisions have the native animals competing for the food availability, and when that's reduced by building, the animals look to homeowner's plants to eat, making themselves a nuisance on land that should have been theirs. They also stop hunting around many of these locations, which leads to over population, disease spread and traffic accidents.

This means keeping the populations down so they don't spread diseases so easily, have enough to eat without risking starvation, lower vehicle accidents that kill hundreds of people yearly and millions of dollars of vehicle damage. Thousands of pounds of meat goes to homeless shelters donated by hunters.

Hunter dollars also pay for game wardens to protect the animals and make sure some aren't killing more than what's allowed. This is called conservation. The hunters contribute more than 60% of what goes towards preservation of those lands, and the dollars they bring to local businesses around hunting areas amount to millions each year.

I'm thinking with you living in Thailand so long, conservation isn't something you might have learned about, as it isn't practiced here as it should be, besides in the provincial parks where hunting is forbidden, even though many locals break those laws and kill native species illegally. Thais slaughter everything they see without thinking of conservation, eating any animals they can catch , shoot or trap without regards to laws protecting them. In America and most of the west, there are strict laws that if broken amount to large fines. This is why there are more deer in one state in America than in all of Thailand. You stock deer here outside of those provincial parks and they'll all be dead in a week.

If state game agencies don't exist anymore and there isn't that demand to keep that public land wild, it could significantly impact species like desert bighorns or the Mexican wolf in Arizona that depend on hunters to stay afloat.

An important point is that from a direct contribution perspective hunters bring in more dollars for being such a small group of people. A non-hunter doesn't willingly contribute tax dollars to national forest agencies to keep them afloat, it's taken from them via taxation with very little say with where it goes.

In comparison, hunters willingly pay money towards tags, licenses, duck stamp etc. The Pitman Roberson tax on ammo and hunting gear is more nuanced since a bunch of non-hunting shooters buy ammo to contribute to the fund, but hunters are the ones that asked to bring that law into place and be taxed. How often are laws imposed by a group of people to be willingly taxed? I think this is quite commendable by hunters. All of this and more is what a person learns in western schools, along with a lot more when you're a hunter.

Edited September 22Sep 22 by fredwiggy

6 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Doesn't exactly sound like a soft landing when you hit the ground. Seems like it could end up being the most stressful 45 seconds of your life.

Or I could just nose the bird into a heavily populated area.

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Starting what? Explaining what hunting is because you don't understand it? Hunter dollars are part of thousands of businesses, along with buying land to save as preserves for the animals. Hunters also keep the deer species in various areas in the carrying capacity of the land they inhabit.

Key Factors That Shape Carrying Capacity

• Forage Supply: The amount of grass, plants, and edible crops available for animals to eat.

• Water Availability: Reliable access to clean drinking water sources across all seasons.

• Climate and Weather: Temperature patterns and rainfall amounts that dictate how fast plants grow.

• Soil Health: The quality and fertility of the dirt, which affects plant nutrition and regrowth.

Why It Matters

• Ecosystem Balance: Keeping animal numbers at or below the carrying capacity allows the land to heal and plants to regrow.

• Preventing Overgrazing: Putting too many animals on the land leads to soil erosion, plant loss, and muddy or ruined pastures.

• Animal Health: Animals living within a balanced carrying capacity get enough nutrients to stay strong, disease-free, and productive.

• Land developers are the largest detriment to all animals. People who tear down millions of trees to build subdivisions have the native animals competing for the food availability, and when that's reduced by building, the animals look to homeowner's plants to eat, making themselves a nuisance on land that should have been theirs. They also stop hunting around many of these locations, which leads to over population, disease spread and traffic accidents.

This means keeping the populations down so they don't spread diseases so easily, have enough to eat without risking starvation, lower vehicle accidents that kill hundreds of people yearly and millions of dollars of vehicle damage. Thousands of pounds of meat goes to homeless shelters donated by hunters.

Hunter dollars also pay for game wardens to protect the animals and make sure some aren't killing more than what's allowed. This is called conservation. The hunters contribute more than 60% of what goes towards preservation of those lands, and the dollars they bring to local businesses around hunting areas amount to millions each year.

I'm thinking with you living in Thailand so long, conservation isn't something you might have learned about, as it isn't practiced here as it should be. besides in the provincial parks where hunting is forbidden, even though many locals break those laws and kill native species illegally. Thais slaughter everything they see without thinking of conservation, eating any animals they can catch , shoot or trap without regards to laws protecting them. In America and most of the west, there are strict laws that if broken amount to large fines. This is why there are more deer in one state in America than in all of Thailand. You stock deer here outside of those provincial parks and they'll all be dead in a week.

If state game agencies don't exist anymore and there isn't that demand to keep that public land wild, it could significantly impact species like desert bighorns or the Mexican wolf in Arizona that depend on hunters to stay afloat.

An important point is that from a direct contribution perspective hunters bring in more dollars for being such a small group of people. A non-hunter doesn't willingly contribute tax dollars to national forest agencies to keep them afloat, it's taken from them via taxation with very little say with where it goes.

In comparison, hunters willingly pay money towards tags, licenses, duck stamp etc. The Pitman Roberson tax on ammo and hunting gear is more nuanced since a bunch of non-hunting shooters buy ammo to contribute to the fund, but hunters are the ones that asked to bring that law into place and be taxed. How often are laws imposed by a group of people to be willingly taxed? I think this is quite commendable by hunters. All of this and more is what a person learns in western schools, along with a lot more when you're a hunter.

You should have quite while you were ahead. But please, don't start with the walls of AI slop.

5 hours ago, Alpha84 said:

A sprawling house on the beach, hookers, and weed. Oh wait... I already do that now?

Can't fault you pal, the fact is most people faced with limited time simply carry on as they always have. which kinda makes sense, we should always do stuff we enjoy , no need to wait for the final countdown

2 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

You should have quite while you were ahead. But please, don't start with the walls of AI slop.

Some here think they know about certain things and they don't, and are quick to challenge those that do. I was just letting him know where he was wrong. I don't need AI but to prove a point, as these things I already knew about decades ago.The only AI there was in black.

Edited September 22Sep 22 by fredwiggy

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Some here think they know about certain things and they don't, and are quick to challenge those that do. I was just letting him know where he was wrong. I don't need AI but to prove a point, as these things I already knew about decades ago.The only AI there was in black.

Understood. But better to just let it rest and get back to the OP of this thread. You aren't going to convince me or him that hunters are out there to save animals.

17 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Or I could just nose the bird into a heavily populated area.

I've nosed a few birds in my time. They really dig it because then the tongue is free to go pay a visit elsewhere.

Just now, SoCal1990 said:

Understood. But better to just let it rest and get back to the OP of this thread. You aren't going to convince me or him that hunters are out there to save animals.

No problem. What I wrote is easily researched if one needs to understand more of how hunters contribute to saving animals.

Stop hunting, animals will suffer, just like they did on the Kaibab Plateau in Utah back in 1906, which is what happens when hunting is stopped. Deer hunting was strictly prohibited, and federal programs aggressively removed natural predators like wolves, cougars, and coyotes. Without predators or hunting, the mule deer population exploded, stripping the plateau of vegetation and leading to mass starvation and a massive die-off in the mid-1920s. The ban ended and the Plateau was officially reopened to hunting to reduce the herd size and bring the population back into balance with the damaged habitat.

I listed the things i would do per your OP, which lead to the replies i received.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No problem. What I wrote is easily researched if one needs to understand more of how hunters contribute to saving animals.

Stop hunting, animals will suffer, just like they did on the Kaibab Plateau in Utah back in 1906, which is what happens when hunting is stopped. Deer hunting was strictly prohibited, and federal programs aggressively removed natural predators like wolves, cougars, and coyotes. Without predators or hunting, the mule deer population exploded, stripping the plateau of vegetation and leading to mass starvation and a massive die-off in the mid-1920s. The ban ended and the Plateau was officially reopened to hunting to reduce the herd size and bring the population back into balance with the damaged habitat.

I listed the things i would do per your OP, which lead to the replies i received.

I understand how hunters can help keep the balance of the food chain in check by culling the overpopulation of certain predators. But there is also a lot of unjust game and trophy hunting that is cruel and doesn't meet that criteria. Let's leave it at that.

5 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

I understand how hunters can help keep the balance of the food chain in check by culling the overpopulation of certain predators. But there is also a lot of unjust game and trophy hunting that is cruel and doesn't meet that criteria. Let's leave it at that.

Trophy hunting takes out animals that have already passed their DNA down for many years. Some game farms make deer just for that purpose and I wouldn't go to them as I prefer wild animals. Taking out too many predators also hurts the ecosystem. The largest problem in America is the hog population. Most hunters aren't hunting for anything besides the sport and meat.

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

I guess that makes your life feel fulfilled right to the end. Doesnt need anything special to make that happen.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

45 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Can't fault you pal, the fact is most people faced with limited time simply carry on as they always have. which kinda makes sense, we should always do stuff we enjoy , no need to wait for the final countdown

Certainly there are worse things one could do with the last year of their life. Plus a lot of people sit around putting things off that they really want to do, thinking they will get to them later, and then the day may never come. Carpe diem.

Susan would probably continue to spend it with a ladyboy, while trolling on this forum all day as she already does now.

45 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

I've nosed a few birds in my time. They really dig it because then the tongue is free to go pay a visit elsewhere.

that sort of behaviour , whilst perfectly safe and acceptable in Thailand is rather risky when undertaken in the UK

8 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Parachuting.

Lets not jump to conclusions

7 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Do we know who he currently is on here?

A few change their names so frequently you would think it's hard to keep up, but you can always recognize them when they either reply or follow you around with negative emojis in all your posts, like one has done this hour with me, in his new alias.

I'm seeing that final year in an Ernest Hemingway kind of lifestyle - beach, booze, cigars, girls - not necessarily in that order.

I've seen enough and done enough in my life, so I wouldn't waste time in immigration lines and on planes with sweaty travelers. The occasional road trip would be fine though.

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Some here think they know about certain things and they don't, and are quick to challenge those that do. I was just letting him know where he was wrong. I don't need AI but to prove a point, as these things I already knew about decades ago.The only AI there was in black.

Did you just cut and paste everything back then as well.

19 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Why do you start these topics? They mean nothing.

I thought you were going to share more off-topic drivel about your hopeless life in Pattaya living around other dunks in sheltered condos?

Just now, SoCal1990 said:

I thought you were going to share more off-topic drivel about your hopeless life in Pattaya living around other dunks in sheltered condos?

Where do you live? Amazed it's not Pattaya.

4 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Where do you live? Amazed it's not Pattaya.

Too boring. I can't endure any more.

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

I'm seeing that final year in an Ernest Hemingway kind of lifestyle - beach, booze, cigars, girls - not necessarily in that order

Sounds fun, why not. In Paris?

10 hours ago, Priorexpat said:

Signing out. One of the reasons I don't spend a lot of time here anymore. BORING.

This is such sad news. How will the forum survive without your insightful posts?

world cruise on crystal cruises in penthouse bringing along lot so old friends and Thai gals for company

55 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

Sounds fun, why not. In Paris?

I'd just stay in Thailand. Some beach in the South, maybe some island?

8 minutes ago, pomchop said:

world cruise on crystal cruises in penthouse bringing along lot so old friends and Thai gals for company

That's a good one. Could go private yacht, full crew, two chefs, a bunch of girls, all your mates, sail around Tahiti, then the rest of the South Pacific, and down to Mauritius or over to Malta, Corsica and the Canary Islands.