Charly2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hi I have an old BMW motorbike with 800 ccm back in Germany and would like to import it to Thailand just for private use. The bike is almost 20 years old and is amounting to 500 EUR according to an opinion of an expert (from Germany in German). I stay here in Thailand since 2 years and hold a work permit. Any ideas or experiences if it is possible and how to do? Have a nice day, Charly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbusman Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Charly, up at the top of this screen, you are going to find a "SEARCH" button. Click on it and enter "import motorcycle" in the box. Now search and you will find some 14,132 posts which will clearly tell you in each and every case: DONT DO IT! Mods, please pin. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hi xbusman, thanks for your reply. Actually I should have searched before I posted. Anyway now I know it will just chause a lot of troubles and nobody know how much I need to pay for it. So I keep my bike back home and look perhaps here for another one. thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbusman Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Charly, good on ya. You have the good sense not to present the same arguments as the last 100 posters who were sure to get it done. Lots of motorcycles for sale in Thailand from big to small, plenty to choose from and most have all the work done. Now, because you are new and have good sense. You should consider only buying a motorcycle with a green book. Also, if its bigger than 200 ccs, do your best to make sure it is not stolen and the green book is valid. Some great roads in Thailand, have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 xbusman, perhaps I will look for any BMW GS, but therefore I need to go to BKK. I checked already online if I can find something, but now easy. Anyway, perhaps if I come next time to BKK, there are some dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submaniac Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 HiI have an old BMW motorbike with 800 ccm back in Germany and would like to import it to Thailand just for private use. The bike is almost 20 years old and is amounting to 500 EUR according to an opinion of an expert (from Germany in German). I stay here in Thailand since 2 years and hold a work permit. Any ideas or experiences if it is possible and how to do? Have a nice day, Charly Ummm...yeah, I'd have to go with xbusman on importing a motorcycle. It has been asked many many times, and usually the same general answer that it is not worth it. The problem is that you pay some 200%+ IN ADDITION to the cost of your bike and shipping it for customs duty. The shipping is expensive, the tax is expensive...but on the plus side, if the customs official sees your bike on the shipping dock-->he may decide to KEEP IT for himself. Bikes here are cheap, and it would be cheaper to just buy here than import your own. Now the only proviso I would add...though, is that you write your bike is nearly 20 years old. I really do not know if 'classic status' changes anything in terms of import duty and registration. Most of the discussion on import has been on fairly new bikes and for sure you will get screwed on that because customs basis the import duty on the cost of a NEW bike. I do not know if there are any 'exceptions' for importing a classic bike 20 years or older, and if there are MAYBE wait until it is 20 years old and then try importing them. Of course keep in mind, I do not know if any exceptions due to age actually exist, but I know in the states if a bike is 20 years old it does not have to meet DOT specs and can be imported for road use. Does anyone know if Thailand have any exception for classic bikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunAussie52 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Having read the act that covers the importation of bikes.The rules state if the bike or car are over 10 years old then there is not duty,this is not to say that there are no taxes,yet a friend imported his 30 year old holden pickup to Thailand,there were no problems with taxes on the vehicle,only those levied by the agent for the paperwork. A copy of the act is attached. Back Home Next About Us Historical Background Vision/Mission Functions and Responsibilities Administrative Organization Customs House Revenue Collection Import / Export Documentation Import Procedure Export Procedure Tariff Nomenclature Overview Interpretation Rules Valuation Sample of Duty Assessment Export Promotion and Privileges Overview Duty Drawback Bonded Warehouse Free Zone Industrial Estate (EPZ) Duty Exemption under BOI Comparison of Tax Measures Postal Parcels Household Effects Requirements for Duty Free Allowance Documentation Clearance Procedures Contact Personal Vehicles Temporary Import Documentation Import Clearance Procedures Export Clearance Procedures Contact Permanent Import Criteria for a Permanent Import Documentation Import Clearance Procedures Tax and Duty Assessment Contact Traveler Information A.T.A carnet Privileged Goods Customs Enforcement Notification Press Release Trade Statistics Integrated Tariff Database Contact Us Link A PERMANENT IMPORT OF PERSONAL VEHICLES New vehicles of all types not yet registered abroad are allowed to be imported without applying for an import permit from the Ministry of Commerce. However, for the vehicles with the weight less than 3500 Kgs., an importer needs to obtain an import permit from the Industrial Standard Institute, telephone number 02-2023331. Used/secondhand vehicles need to obtain an import permit from the Foreign Trade Department of the Ministry of Commerce, telephone 02-5474804. For the vehicles with the weight less than 3500 Kgs., an importer needs to obtain an import permit from the Industrial Standard Institute as well. Warning... For the importation of used/secondhand vehicles, an importer needs to obtain an import permit from the Foreign Trade Department of the Ministry of Commerce before the arrival of the vehicles; otherwise he/she shall be liable to a fine equal to 10 percent of the price of vehicle but not less than 1,000 Thai Baht, or exceeding 20,000 Thai Baht. Criteria for a Permanent Import of Used/Secondhand Vehicles [1] An importer is eligible to import only ONE used/ secondhand vehicles for personal use. [2] In case where the importer is a nonresident, he/she is required to stay in Thailand for at least ONE year and present a non-immigrant visa issued by the Immigration Bureau, the National Police Office together with a work permit issued by the Ministry of Labor and Social Welfare at the time of importation. [3] In case where an importer is a Thai resident marrying a foreigner, he/she is required to present documentary evidence of marriage and proof of changing residence to Thailand. Also the importer has to own and possess the imported vehicle for at least one and a half year while staying abroad, from the date of transferring the ownership to the date of arrival into Thailand. [4] In case where an importer is a Thai resident, he/she is allowed to import a vehicle only when such vehicle is accompanied the owner on the change of residence and he/she has owned and possessed the imported vehicle together with the valid driving license for at least one and a half year while staying abroad. Documentation [1] General Documentation: • An Import Goods Declaration and 3 duplicates; • A Bill of Lading or Air Waybill; • Proof of vehicle purchase (if any); • A Release Order (Kor Sor Kor 100/1); • An insurance premium invoice; and • Other relevant documents (if any) e.g. a power of attorney. [2] Additional Documentation for the used/secondhand personal vehicles: • A House Certificate and an Identification Card; • A passport in case of changing residence; • A Vehicle Registration Certificate indicating that the imported vehicle was used abroad; • An import permit from the Foreign Trade Department of the Ministry of Commerce Import Clearance Procedures [1] An importer/agent submits an Import Goods Declaration together with all supporting documents to the Customs office/house at the port of entry; [2] Customs verifies the documents, allocates a Goods Declaration number and calculates liable taxes and duties; [3] The importer/agent pays liable taxes and duties at a Cashier Office; and [4] The importer/agent presents the receipt issued by the Cashier Office to a Customs Inspection Office to bring the imported vehicles from Customs custody. Tax and Duty Assessment: The Customs value of the imported vehicles is determined on the basis of the CIF value (Cost & Insurance & Freight). [1] Customs Value • Purchase prices of new vehicles imported or exported by an authorized dealer. • If the purchase price in 4.1.1 is not available, the price listed in the Parkers Car Price Guide, Japanese Car and What Car ? • Costs of any modification or improvement of parts or accessories done on the vehicle are also taken into account. • In case where the vehicle is damaged by any incidents other than normal use e.g car accidents, fire, etc. the price of the vehicle is discounted as appropriate. • The Customs value for used/secondhand vehicles is discounted according to the registration period as shown in the given table below: Discount Rates for Used/Secondhand Vehicles 1 Registration Period Not exceeding - 2 months But not exceeding - - 2.5 % Discount 2 Registration Period Exceeding - 2 months But not exceeding - 4 months 5 % Discount 3 Registration Period Exceeding - 4 months But not exceeding - 6 months 7.5 % Discount 4 Registration Period Exceeding - 6 months But not exceeding - 8 months 10 % Discount 5 Registration Period Exceeding - 8 months But not exceeding - 10 months 12.50 % Discount 6 Registration Period Exceeding - 10 months But not exceeding 1 year - 15.00 % Discount 7 Registration Period Exceeding 1 year - But not exceeding 1 year 2 months 16.67 % Discount 8 Registration Period Exceeding 1 year 2 months But not exceeding 1 year 4 months 18.33 % Discount 9 Registration Period Exceeding 1 year 4 months But not exceeding 1 year 6 months 20.00 % Discount 10 Registration Period Exceeding 1 year 6 months But not exceeding 1 year 8 months 21.67 % Discount 11 Registration Period Exceeding 1 year 8 months But not exceeding 1 year 10 months 23.33 % Discount 12 Registration Period Exceeding 1 year 10 months But not exceeding 2 years - 25.00 % Discount 13 Registration Period Exceeding 2 years - But not exceeding 2 years 2 months 26.67 % Discount 14 Registration Period Exceeding 2 years 2 months But not exceeding 2 years 4 months 28.33 % Discount 15 Registration Period Exceeding 2 years 4 months But not exceeding 2 years 6 months 30.00 % Discount 16 Registration Period Exceeding 2 years 6 months But not exceeding 2 years 8 months 31.67 % Discount 17 Registration Period Exceeding 2 years 8 months But not exceeding 2 years 10 months 33.33 % Discount 18 Registration Period Exceeding 2 years 10 months But not exceeding 3 years - 35.00 % Discount 19 Registration Period Exceeding 3 years - But not exceeding 3 years 2 months 36.67 % Discount 20 Registration Period Exceeding 3 years 2 months But not exceeding 3 years 4 months 38.33 % Discount 21 Registration Period Exceeding 3 years 4 months But not exceeding 3 years 6 months 40.00 % Discount 22 Registration Period Exceeding 3 years 6 months But not exceeding 3 years 8 months 41.67 % Discount 23 Registration Period Exceeding 3 years 8 months But not exceeding 3 years 10 months 43.33 % Discount 24 Registration Period Exceeding 3 years 10 months But not exceeding 4 years - 45.00 % Discount 25 Registration Period Exceeding 4 years - But not exceeding 4 years 2 months 46.67 % Discount 26 Registration Period Exceeding 4 years 2 months But not exceeding 4 years 4 months 48.33 % Discount 27 Registration Period Exceeding 4 years 4 months But not exceeding 4 years 6 months 50.00 % Discount 28 Registration Period Exceeding 4 years 6 months But not exceeding 4 years 8 months 51.67 % Discount 29 Registration Period Exceeding 4 years 8 months But not exceeding 4 years 10 months 53.33 % Discount 30 Registration Period Exceeding 4 years 10 months But not exceeding 5 years - 55.00 % Discount 31 Registration Period Exceeding 5 years - But not exceeding 5 years 2 months 55.83 % Discount 32 Registration Period Exceeding 5 years 2 months But not exceeding 5 years 4 months 56.67 % Discount 33 Registration Period Exceeding 5 years 4 months But not exceeding 5 years 6 months 57.50 % Discount 34 Registration Period Exceeding 5 years 6 months But not exceeding 5 years 8 months 58.33 % Discount 35 Registration Period Exceeding 5 years 8 months But not exceeding 5 years 10 months 59.17 % Discount 36 Registration Period Exceeding 5 years 10 months But not exceeding 6 years - 60.00 % Discount 37 Registration Period Exceeding 6 years - But not exceeding 6 years 2 months 60.50 % Discount 38 Registration Period Exceeding 6 years 2 months But not exceeding 6 years 4 months 61.00 % Discount 39 Registration Period Exceeding 6 years 4 months But not exceeding 6 years 6 months 61.50 % Discount 40 Registration Period Exceeding 6 years 6 months But not exceeding 6 years 8 months 62.00 % Discount 41 Registration Period Exceeding 6 years 8 months But not exceeding 6 years 10 months 62.50 % Discount 42 Registration Period Exceeding 6 years 10 months But not exceeding 7 years - 63.00 % Discount 43 Registration Period Exceeding 7 years - But not exceeding 7 years 2 months 63.50 % Discount 44 Registration Period Exceeding 7 years 2 months But not exceeding 7 years 4 months 64.00 % Discount 45 Registration Period Exceeding 7 years 4 months But not exceeding 7 years 6 months 64.50 % Discount 46 Registration Period Exceeding 7 years 6 months But not exceeding 7 years 8 months 65.00 % Discount 47 Registration Period Exceeding 7 years 8 months But not exceeding 7 years 10 months 65.50 % Discount 48 Registration Period Exceeding 7 years 10 months But not exceeding 8 years - 66.00 % Discount 49 Registration Period Exceeding 8 years - But not exceeding 8 years 2 months 66.33 % Discount 50 Registration Period Exceeding 8 years 2 months But not exceeding 8 years 4 months 66.67 % Discount 51 Registration Period Exceeding 8 years 4 months But not exceeding 8 years 6 months 67.00 % Discount 52 Registration Period Exceeding 8 years 6 months But not exceeding 8 years 8 months 67.33 % Discount 53 Registration Period Exceeding 8 years 8 months But not exceeding 8 years 10 months 67.67 % Discount 54 Registration Period Exceeding 8 years 10 months But not exceeding 9 years - 68.00 % Discount 55 Registration Period Exceeding 9 years - But not exceeding 9 years 2 months 68.33 % Discount 56 Registration Period Exceeding 9 years 2 months But not exceeding 9 years 4 months 68.67 % Discount 57 Registration Period Exceeding 9 years 4 months But not exceeding 9 years 6 months 69.00 % Discount 58 Registration Period Exceeding 9 years 6 months But not exceeding 9 years 8 months 69.33 % Discount 59 Registration Period Exceeding 9 years 8 months But not exceeding 9 years 10 months 69.67 % Discount 60 Registration Period Exceeding 9 years 10 months But not exceeding 10 years - 70.00 % Discount 61 Registration Period Exceeding 10 years - - - - According to a condition of vehicle [2] Insurance • In case where the cost of insurance is paid before the arrival of a vehicle, the actual cost of insurance is applied. • In case where the cost of insurance in 4.2.1 is not available, the cost of insurance is calculated at 1% of the FOB value. [3] Transport Cost • In case where the latest transport cost of an authorized dealer is available, such cost is applied. • In case where the transport cost in 4.3.1 is not available, the transport cost indicated in the Customs Code of Practices is applied e.g. the higher transport cost of the same make and model vehicle within 6 preceding months, etc. • In case where the transport costs in 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 are not available, the transport cost is calculated at 10% of FOB value. Table of Tax and Duty Rates Type of Vehicles Cylinder Capacity Duty (%) Excise Tax (%) (Multiplier) Interior Tax (%)* VAT (%) Total (%) Personal Vehicle including passenger vehicle with not more than 10 seats - Not exceeding 2000 cc. and not more than 220 horse power 80 30 (0.4477612) 10 7 187.47 - 2001 cc. but not exceeding 2500 cc. with not more than 220 horse power 80 35 (0.5691057) 10 7 213.171 - 2501 cc. or but not exceeding 3000 cc. with not more than 220 horse power 80 40 (0.7142857) 10 7 243.94 - Exceeding 3000 cc. or more than 220 horse power 80 50 (1.1111111) 10 7 328 * Interior tax is calculated at 10% of excise tax. Example Calculation of Taxes and Duties CIF value of the imported vehicle and applicable taxes and duties are as follows: * CIF value of the import = 100 Thai Baht * Import duty = 80 % * Excise tax = 35 % * Interior tax = 10 % of excise tax * VAT = 7 % The total import duties and taxes imposed on this import are calculated as follows: 1. Import duty = (CIF value * Rate of import duty) = (100 * 0.8) = 80 Thai Baht 2. Excise tax = (CIF value + import duty) * {Rate of excise tax/1-(1.1 * Rate of excise tax)} = (100+80) * {0.35/1-(1.1*0.35)} = 180 * 0.5691057 = 102.439 Thai Baht 3. Interior tax = Excise tax * Rate of interior tax = 102.439 * 0.1 = 102.439 Thai Baht 4. Base VAT = (CIF value+ Import duty+ Excise tax + Interior tax) = (100 + 80 + 102.439 + 10.2439) = 292.6829 Thai Baht 5. VAT = Base VAT * VAT Rate = 292.6829 *0.07 = 20.4878 Thai Baht Total taxes and duties = 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 = 213.171 Thai Baht Additional Information Type of Vehicles Cylinder Capacity Duty (%) Total (%) Motor Vehicle (Tariff Heading 87.03) - Not exceeding 2000 cc. 80 188 - 2001 cc. but not exceeding 2500 cc. 80 213 - 2501 cc. or but not exceeding 3000 cc. 80 244 - More than 3001 cc. 80 328 Motorcycle (Tariff Heading 87.11) 60 77.04 Electric Motorcycle 60 72 Electric Bicycle 60 72 Remarks 1. The total taxes and duties of a motor vehicle and motorcycle = Customs duty + excise tax + interior tax + 7% of VAT 2. The total taxes and duties of electric motorcycle and electric bicycle = Customs duty + 7% of VAT 3. The importation of used/secondhand motor vehicles and motorcycle requires an import permit from the Foreign Trade Department prior to the importation. For more information, please contact ? 02-5474804. Important Notice This leaflet is not a legal document. It is a guide to current policy only. No decisions on payment of Customs duties and taxes can be made on the vehicle until the vehicle arrives at the port of clearance and all relevant information is given to the Thai Customs Department. Best view with IE 5.0 or higher at 800x600 pixel and text size medium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunAussie52 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 this is the customs web site.................! http://www.customs.go.th/Customs-Eng/Perso...PersonalPer#tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Does the word LINK mean anything to you? Goodness! Have mercy on us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunAussie52 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Does the word LINK mean anything to you?Goodness! Have mercy on us! You dont have to be rude,senior member or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Interesting stuff U D 52. Do you have any idea which countries "market value" of a bike the goverment will base the tax on? I have a ten year old bike here in Singapore that is worthless(almost). The market value is very low . However the bike is worth three times as much in the UK. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) Does the word LINK mean anything to you?Goodness! Have mercy on us! You dont have to be rude,senior member or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You like spaces a little too much. That post was ridiculously long. Welcome to the World Wide Web! Edited February 17, 2008 by sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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