Real Cheese In Thailand

[haroldc]

Just a question for any F&B people out there - why is the price of imported cheese in Thailand 3-4 times the price in Vietnam or Cambodia? (I'm on a limited budget, and cheese is one of the things I miss the most - I just can't afford it!)

[bsided69]

Just a question for any F&B people out there - why is the price of imported cheese in Thailand 3-4 times the price in Vietnam or Cambodia? (I'm on a limited budget, and cheese is one of the things I miss the most - I just can't afford it!)

Oh Gosh I feel your gonna get it from the old farts brigade. The words there, go and then come to mind.

Your so right about the prices though and there going up all the time. Am quite sure it is the import tax that makes it so expensive.

Im OK as I quite like the Anchor cheese that is available almost everywhere in CM. Similar price as back in England though. There a few great Delis here in CM where you can go and purchase small peices of many varietys of cheese and have a cheese feast every now and again if you like. I do beleave the Old Bell has a great cheese selction as well. Not sure where your from but good luck in your quest for cheese.

Edited March 22, 2008 by bsided69

[bob4you]

I think the import tax excuse is a bunch of BS on the part of the wholesalers and retailers. the duty or tax is not 200% is it? Same thing applies to alcohol.

[haroldc]

I think the import tax excuse is a bunch of BS on the part of the wholesalers and retailers. the duty or tax is not 200% is it? Same thing applies to alcohol.

To the best of my knowledge, the duty on cheese is 30% and there is no excise tax. Don't know the rates for alcohol, but there definitely is excise tax on top of the duty. (And there's 7% VAT on the landed price -- including duty and excise tax -- of everything.)

Also, went to TOPS today and saw a sign that basically said "sorry, promotions and discounts on wine are no longer legal." That means I'm going to have to cut my wine purchases from 4 to 2 bottles a month. Sigh...

[bob4you]

The Thai's sure know how to shoot themselves in the foot don't they?

[ignis]

2kg block of cheddar was 620 baht, last week bought another block... same shop, same cheese, same packing cost 930baht...!!!!!

I questioned the price to be told the price has gone up.

[Briggsy]

The cheese mafia.

You think I'm joking, don't you?

Look at it this way. Who imports cheese into Thailand? What happens if somebody else tries to import cheese into Thailand? Will anybody dare to challenge them? Will the newcomers get an import licence? Will they get the necessary documents from the FDA? Will their consignments be held up at Customs? Will they receive surprise audits from the Revenue Department? There are many ways to effectively maintain a monopoly in a non-transparent economy. Or failing that, create a price-fixing cartel and carve up the market with your 'competitors'.

You would be surprised to find how many sectors of the economy are effective monopolies.

There is some local cheese produced. It's not a bargain when you consider the cost and the quality.

[thaigerd]

Cheese mafia????

My company is importing around 400 different cheeses from France and other european countries but no problems at all:

http://thaigerd.blogspot.com/search?q=cheese

or

http://www.<URL Automatically Removed>/viewforum.php?f=25

Gerd

[Briggsy]

Excellent, Thaigerd, you are perfectly placed to answer the OP's question?

Also have you managed to get your cheeses sold in the big supermarkets and if so, in a significant number of branches? Who is really profiting? Who is supplying imported cheese to the Tesco Lotus, Tops, Villa etc? Where are the mark-ups?

I also am a cheese fan. I would like to know who the big cheese is behind cheese in Thailand. I am convinced there is a low-profile but very wealthy Sino-Thai family with a 7-syllable surname like Phattanaphanichcheesekul who has the bulk of the imported cheese market sown up. Thus keeping prices high.

It's high time the imported cheese sector was opened up to real competition to benefit the consumer. Smash the cheese monopoly.

[Maestro]

To the best of my knowledge, the duty on cheese is 30% and there is no excise tax.

Apparently, it is 60%, and that's on landed cost. Consider that it is probably shipped by air.

Source: http://www.customs.go.th/Tariff/TariffCat....;keyword=cheese

thaigerd will probably have up-to-date information if it has changed. And he is right: there is no "mafia". Importing cheese is no different from importing nails or cosmetics, with the only special requirement that you have to comply with the simple and straightforward food labelling regulations. You have to calculate a higher percentage of spoilage than for nails, though. Anybody can import food, and there must be hundreds of food importers in Thailand, including many cheese importers.

--

Maestro

[haroldc]

Cheese mafia????

My company is importing around 400 different cheeses from France and other european countries but no problems at all:

http://thaigerd.blogspot.com/search?q=cheese

or

http://www.<URL Automatically Removed>/viewforum.php?f=25

Gerd

As Briggsy wrote, you obviously know the cheese market here. So, may I ask you 2 questions: 1) how do your prices compare to supermarket prices; 2) do you sell to individuals, and if so, how? I imagine there are a lot of Thaivisa members who would be interested in buying good cheeses at more favorable prices.

[thaigerd]

Cheese mafia????

My company is importing around 400 different cheeses from France and other european countries but no problems at all:

http://thaigerd.blogspot.com/search?q=cheese

or

http://www.<URL Automatically Removed>/viewforum.php?f=25

Gerd

As Briggsy wrote, you obviously know the cheese market here. So, may I ask you 2 questions: 1) how do your prices compare to supermarket prices; 2) do you sell to individuals, and if so, how? I imagine there are a lot of Thaivisa members who would be interested in buying good cheeses at more favorable prices.

When I compare prices in supermarkets I am much cheaper.

But my company (not mine, but the one I am working for) is supplying to 5* hotels and restaurants.

My cheeses have to be ordered 2 weeks in advance.

Here are a few samples from our range:

Abondance Fermier (Farmhouse product) Raw Milk Savoie

Ami du Chambertin Raw Milk Bourgogne

Banon - vache de Chalais Past. Milk Provence

Banon AOC Raw Milk Provence

Barbichette Chevre - Plain Past. Milk Perigord

Barbichette Chevre -Sauvage (with herbs) Past. Milk Perigord

Basquitou Past. Milk Pyrenees

Beaufort AOC (vaccuum packed) Raw Milk Savoie

Berger de Lozere Past. Milk Causses

Bon Grivois Raw Milk Jura

Brebichon Raw Milk Savoie

Brebis a Racler (Ewe Milk Raclette) Past. Milk Savoie

Brebis aux Herbes Raw Milk Corsica

Brillat Savarin La Tradition Past. Milk Champagne

Brique du Forez Past. Milk Auvergne

Brique du Nord 5 months Past. Milk Nord

Buche Chevre, Tradition - Ashed Raw Milk Val de Loire

Buche Chevre, Tradition - Plain Raw Milk Val de Loire

Buche de Brebis Past. Milk Pyrenees

Buche de Maitre Sequin Past. Milk Poitou

Buchette a la serriette Raw Milk Provence

Cabecous a la liquer de Noix Past. Milk Perigord

Cabri aux Epices Past. Milk Perigord

Cabrioulet Raw Milk Pyrenees

Cantal AOC Raw Milk Auvergne

Caprin Frais Raw Milk Val de Loire

Carre Fleuri Past. Milk Lorraine

Carre Fleuri Mirabelle Past. Milk Lorraine

Carre Kansel Past. Milk Alsace

Carre Kanzel aud epices (with spices) Past. Milk Alsace

Carre Livande Raw Milk Provence

Chabichou du Poitou Raw Milk Poitou

Chaource AOC Raw Milk Champagne

Charolais Raw Milk Bourgogne

Chevre a Racler (Goat Milk Raclette) Past. Milk Savoie

Chevrochon Raw Milk Savoie

Chevrot Raw Milk Poitou

Comte St. Antoine AOC 10/14 months maturity Raw Milk Jura

Comte St. Antoine AOC 10/14 months maturity Raw Milk Jura

Comte St. Antoine AOC 10/14 months maturity Raw Milk Jura

Condor Raw Milk Lyonnais

Couer de Neufchatel AOC Past. Milk Normandie

Couer de Neufchatel AOC Raw Milk Normandie

Coulommers Tradition Ripeness 2/3 Raw Milk Ile de France

Coulommers Tradition Ripeness 2/4 Past. Milk Ile de France

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Fresh / Frais Past. Milk Val de Loire

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Fresh / Frais Raw Milk Val de Loire

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Ripened / Affine Past. Milk Val de Loire

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Ripened / Affine Raw Milk Val de Loire

Cure Nantais Raw Milk Bretagne

Cure Nantais Raw Milk Bretagne

Delice de Cremier Raw Milk Bourgogne

Delice de Cremier Raw Milk Bourgogne

Epoisse AOC Raw Milk Bourgogne

Epoisse AOC Raw Milk Bourgogne

Feuille de Dreux Past. Milk Ile de France

Feuille du Limousin Raw Milk Languedoc

Galet de la Loire Past. Milk Lyonnais

Galet de la Loire Raw Milk Lyonnais

Gaperon Frais Past. Milk Auvergne

Gelette des Templiers Raw Milk Provence

Gourgandine Beaujolais Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Biere Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Herbs Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Pepper Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Violette Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Walnut Past. Milk Lyonnais

Grain D'Orge Sur Paille Past. Milk Normandie

Gratte Paille 70% Fat Past. Milk Ile de France

Gratte Paille 70% Fat Past. Milk Ile de France

Gratte Paille 70% Fat Raw Milk Ile de France

Gres des Vosges Raw Milk Alsace

Gres des Vosges Petit (4x125gr) Raw Milk Alsace

Gruyere de Savoie - 1/4 loaf Raw Milk Savoie

Gruyere de Savoie - full wheel Raw Milk Savoie

Hansi Affine Past. Milk Alsace

Hansi affine au Poire William Past. Milk Alsace

Hansi Gewurstraminer Past. Milk Alsace

Jurassic d'ete Affine Raw Milk Jura

Langres - matured with Marc de Champagne Past. Milk Champagne

Langres AOC Past. Milk Champagne

Langres AOC Past. Milk Champagne

Le Cousin Raw Milk Savoie

Le Vigneron Past. Milk Alsace

Le Vigneron Past. Milk Alsace

Livarot AOC Affineur Cru (Matured to perfection) Raw Milk Normandie

Livarot AOC Affineur Cru (Matured to perfection) Raw Milk Normandie

Livarot AOC Perelle Past. Milk Normandie

Livarot AOC Perelle Past. Milk Normandie

Livarot Bouchot Normand 80gr Past. Milk Normandie

Lou Bren (Reblochon Brebis) Raw Milk Causses

Maconais AOC Raw Milk Bourgogne

Maxi-Dome Chevre Raw Milk Val de Loire

Mimolette Beffroi 18 months Past. Milk Nord

Mirabella Past. Milk Champagne

Mont d'Or AOC Raw Milk Jura

Morbier AOC Tradition Raw Milk Jura

Morbier de Chevre Past. Milk Poitou

Motte Lorraine Raw Milk Lorraine

Moulis Raw Milk Pyrenees

Moulis Brebis 8 months Past. Milk Pyrenees

Moulis Chevre 6 months Past. Milk Pyrenees

Mousseron 3months Raw Milk Jura

Munster Gerome AOC Past. Milk Alsace

Munster Gerome AOC Raw Milk Alsace

Olivia Anis Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Basil Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Herbes Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Mandarine - Miel Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Violette - Citron Raw Milk Provence

Ossau Iraty AOC Raw Milk Pyrenees

Paillou Past. Milk Bourgogne

Palet de Chevre Raw Milk Languedoc

Pave D'Auge Cru Raw Milk Normandie

Pave D'Auge du Pere Gauthier Past. Milk Normandie

Pave de L'Helpe a la biere Past. Milk Nord

Pont L'Eveque affine au Cidre (Matured with Cider) Past. Milk Normandie

Pont L'eveque AOC "Marie Harel" Past. Milk Normandie

Pont L'eveque AOC Normandie Raw Milk Normandie

Pouigny St. Pierre AOC Raw Milk Val de Loire

Pelardon des Cevennes AOC Raw Milk Languedoc

Perail Tradition Raw Milk Causses

Perail Tradition - unwrapped Raw Milk Causses

Petit Fiancee Pyrenees Raw Milk Pyrenees

Petit Rousset de Nordheim Raw Milk Alsace

Phoebus Raw Milk Pyrenees

Piastrellas de Bufflonne Raw Milk Auvergne

Picodon Carte Noire Raw Milk Provence

Picolin Picandine Raw Milk Perigord

Pise du Lot Raw Milk Perigord

Pyrenees Fermier - Goat's Milk Raw Milk Pyrenees

Pyrenees Vache Fermier Raw Milk Pyrenees

Raclette au lait Cru (Raw Milk Raclette) Raw Milk Jura

Reblocon de Savoie AOC - mountain made cheese Raw Milk Savoie

Rebochon AOC Fermier - Farmhouse product Raw Milk Savoie

Rocaillou Raw Milk Causses

Rocamadour AOC Raw Milk Perigord

Rondin Brebis Tradtion Past. Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Past. Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Raw Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger (Halve) Raw Milk Causses

Roue d'Alsace Past. Milk Alsace

Selles sur Cher Anjouin AOC Raw Milk Val de Loire

Soreda Taupiniere - Ash Past. Milk Perigord

Soreda Taupiniere - Plain Past. Milk Perigord

Soreda Taupiniere - Truffle Past. Milk Perigord

Soumaintrain cru Raw Milk Bourgogne

Soureliette Raw Milk Causses

St. Felicien Raw Milk Lyonnais

St. marcellin Affinage Lyonnais - in claypot Raw Milk Lyonnais

St. Marcellin Cremier Past. Milk Lyonnais

St. Maure de Touraine AOC La Tradition Raw Milk Val de Loire

St. Nectaire AOC Affine - Farmhouse Cheese Raw Milk Auvergne

St. Nectaire AOC Affine - Mountain Made Cheese Past. Milk Auvergne

Tourmonnier Raw Milk Jura

Trappe d"Echourgnac a la Liquer de Noix Past. Milk Perigord

Tresor de Normandie - La Tradition Past. Milk Normandie

Vache 5 Baies (5 Berries) Past. Milk Perigord

Vache Papaya Past. Milk Perigord

Vacherin de Chevre Raw Milk Pyrenees

Valencay AOC Raw Milk Val de Loire

Valencay Tradition - Plain Past. Milk Val de Loire

Valencay Tradition - Ripened Past. Milk Val de Loire

Valencay Tradition -Ashed Past. Milk Val de Loire

Vezelay Cru Raw Milk Bourgogne

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Camembert Varieties

Camembert - Margalet Tradition Raw Milk Causses

Camembert Amalthee - with Goat Cheese Raw Milk Poitou

Camembert Amalthee - with Goat Cheese - Hexagonal Raw Milk Poitou

Camembert AOC Normandie Tradition Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert AOC Tradition "Marie Harel" Ripeness Leve 3 Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert AOC Tradition "Marie Harel" Ripeness Level 2 Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert au Calvados Pane 1kg Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert au Calvados Pane 250gr Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert Bougon - Goat's Milk Raw Milk Poitou

Camembert Carre de Chevre Past. Milk Poitou

Camembert Tradition Past. Milk Ile de France

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Brie Varieties

Brie "Maire Harel" Raw Milk Normandie

Brie Chevre Quarte Feuille - Goat Brie Past. Milk Poitou

Brie de Brebis Cardabelle Raw Milk Causses

Brie de Brebis Cardabellle e Thyme / Rosmarin Raw Milk Causses

Brie de Meaux Tradition AOC Ripeness 2/3 (in wooden box) Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Meaux Tradition AOC Ripeness 2/3 (wrapped on staw) Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Melun , pasteurised Past. Milk Ile de France

Brie de Melun Fermier AOC Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Melun Fermier de Rotschild AOC Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Nangis Tradition (Ripeness 2/3) Past. Milk Ile de France

Brie de Nangis Tradition (Ripeness 2/3) Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie Royal aux Truffes Past. Milk Ile de France

Brie Royal aux Truffes Raw Milk Ile de France

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Blue Cheese Varieties

Bleu - Capri Bleu Raw Milk Savoie

Bleu - Gailazur Raw Milk Savoie

Bleu de Auvergne (Fourme d'Ambert) AOC Past. Milk Auvergne

Bleu de Cercors Sassenage AOC Past. Milk Lyonnais

Bleu de Chevre Raw Milk Languedoc

Bleu de Chvre - Basques Raw Milk Pyrenees

Bleu des Basques Raw Milk Pyrenees

Bleu des Causses AOC Raw Milk Causses

Bleu des Pyrenees Ostari Past. Milk Pyrenees

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger (Halve) Raw Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Raw Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Past. Milk Causses

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Tomme Varieties

Tomette de Provence Raw Milk Provence

Tomette de Provence a l'Huille Raw Milk Provence

Tomme - La Marotte Raw Milk Causses

Tomme au Marc du Jura Raw Milk Jura

Tomme Crayeuse Raw Milk Savoie

Tomme de Brebis de Severac - la - Chateau Past. Milk Causses

Tomme de Chevre Past. Milk Savoie

Tomme de Chevre - Farmhouse Cheese Past. Milk Ile de France

Tomme de Chevre - Farmhouse Cheese Raw Milk Ile de France

Tomme de Chevre au Muscadet Past. Milk Bretagne

Tomme de Chevre d'Aydius Past. Milk Pyrenees

Tomme de Chevre du Dauphine Past. Milk Lyonnais

Tomme de Fedou (aged over 60 days) Raw Milk Causses

Tomme de L'illwald Bear's Garlic Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de L'illwald Caraway Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de L'illwald Plain Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de L'illwald Stinging Nettles Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de Montagne Vielle Past. Milk Lyonnais

Tomme de Pres du Reid Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de savoie Brebis (Ewe Milk) Raw Milk Savoie

Tomme de Savoie Fermier (Farmhouse product) Raw Milk Savoie

Tommette Chevre du Puy du Fou Past. Milk Bretagne

PLATEAUX - CHEESE PLATTER (Refer to catolog for details)

PLATEAU 7 FROMAGES AOC FROMI 2KGX1

PLATEAU AOC FROMI 4KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE 11 FROMAGES 2,5KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE 6 FROMAGES 1KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE FENETRE 750GX4

PLATEAU LUXE FENETRE 9 FROMAGES 1,7KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE ROND 1KG MS

PLATEAU OVALE PM 495G X1 MS WOODEN BOX

PLATEAU SAISON NEW ASSORT EVERY M 2KGX1

PLATEAU SAISON NEW ASSORT,EVERY M 4KGX1

PLATEAU SELECTION "MOF" 2KG

PLATEAU SELECTION "MOF" 4KG

PLATEAU SELECTION "MOF" CUSTOMIZED 2KGX1

PLATEAU TRADITION 10 FROMAGES 3KGX1

PLATEAU TRADITION 12 FROMAGES 4KGX1

PLATEAU TRADITION 3KG MS

PLATEAU TRADITION 6 FROMAGES 2KGX1

Gerd

[jayenram]

Here are a few samples from our range:

No Cheddar, Hurdy?

Just joking. It looks like an excellent selection albeit I only know of 10% of them, if that.

J

[thaigerd]

Here are a few samples from our range:

No Cheddar, Hurdy?

Just joking. It looks like an excellent selection albeit I only know of 10% of them, if that.

J

IRELAND

Milleens Raw Milk Ireland

Cashel Blue Raw Milk Ireland

Gubbeen Raw Milk Ireland

ENGLAND

Hawkes Wensleydale Past. Milk England

Blue Stilton - Colton Basset Past. Milk England

Lancashire - Kirkham's Raw Milk England

Cheddar - Keen's Raw Milk England

Gerd

[lomatopo]

Domestic cheese prices have been affected by the nearly doubling in whole milk wholesale prices in the last year.

Imported cheese needs to be air-freighted, and has handling and storage requirements which add to the local price. Not sure what the associated import duties, taxes and fees are but suspect they are on the high side in part to protect the domestic industry.

Wine and spirits imported into Thailand face astronomically high duties and taxes. While the import duty on these products is a bit under 60% ad valorem, there is an excise tax that takes into account the amount of import duty paid. The effective tax rate on wine (including both import duties and excise taxes) is around 300%.

[nonthaburial]

After reading gerds stock list I am suddenly bored with cheese

[lomatopo]

To the best of my knowledge, the duty on cheese is 30% and there is no excise tax.

Apparently, it is 60%, and that's on landed cost. Consider that it is probably shipped by air.

Source: http://www.customs.go.th/Tariff/TariffCat....;keyword=cheese

FWIW that chart is ~ 20 years old. I am certain the ad valorem rate, for cheese, dropped to 30% a few years ago. I am surprised there is no additional tax (excise).

[haroldc]

When I compare prices in supermarkets I am much cheaper.

But my company (not mine, but the one I am working for) is supplying to 5* hotels and restaurants.

My cheeses have to be ordered 2 weeks in advance.

Gerd

Sounds great -- is it possible for individuals to order cheese from your company? If so, how does one do it, is there a minimum order quantity or baht amount, how would one actually get the cheese, etc.?

[goatfarmer]

Just a question for any F&B people out there - why is the price of imported cheese in Thailand 3-4 times the price in Vietnam or Cambodia? (I'm on a limited budget, and cheese is one of the things I miss the most - I just can't afford it!)

You can come and try the cheese at my farm for free. But be warned. It's so delicious, you might actually buy some.

[percy2]

Just a question for any F&B people out there - why is the price of imported cheese in Thailand 3-4 times the price in Vietnam or Cambodia? (I'm on a limited budget, and cheese is one of the things I miss the most - I just can't afford it!)

You can come and try the cheese at my farm for free. But be warned. It's so delicious, you might actually buy some.

How do I find your farm on my GPS?

Cheers

[cathyy]

Also, cheese is very much a specialty item here, primarily for farangs, since most Thais are lactose intolerant. Before you tell me about your kids, nieces, and nephews all loving dairy, please be aware that lactose intolerance develops only after the age of 8 or so. They may consider a tummy ache not a deterrent to the occasional ice cream cone, if they have even connected the tummy ache with dairy intake. I've met adult Thais who did not know what lactose intolerant was, but did admit to getting an upset stomach after eating dairy products. When I explained it to them, they were quite surprised.

[IMA_FARANG]

2kg block of cheddar was 620 baht, last week bought another block... same shop, same cheese, same packing cost 930baht...!!!!!

I questioned the price to be told the price has gone up.

1. Cheese is mostly imported...so a cheese from Old Blighty starts priced off in pounds. What's the Pound to Baht rate these days? Higher pound rate, higher cost for cheese.

2. Cheese isn't a big food item among Thais. Mostly Farangs looking to buy cheese. Low turnover item, higher cost to make a profit.

3. Regarding #2 above....a lot of Asians are Lactose intolerant...Cheese products give them gas.

[JacknDanny]

2kg block of cheddar was 620 baht, last week bought another block... same shop, same cheese, same packing cost 930baht...!!!!!

I questioned the price to be told the price has gone up.

1. Cheese is mostly imported...so a cheese from Old Blighty starts priced off in pounds. What's the Pound to Baht rate these days? Higher pound rate, higher cost for cheese.

2. Cheese isn't a big food item among Thais. Mostly Farangs looking to buy cheese. Low turnover item, higher cost to make a profit.

3. Regarding #2 above....a lot of Asians are Lactose intolerant...Cheese products give them gas.

Re point 1, I do not believe there has been a big change in the baht- pound rate over the last few weeks. If anything I believe you get less baht per pound than say 3 months ago.

I have noticed that butter and cheese have DOUBLED IN PRICE over the past couple of weeks. Does anybody know why?

ThaiGerd, have your prices gone up significantly or is this just a supermarket ripoff.?

[Guest Bellini]

...I am surprised there is no additional tax (excise).

Excise tax is a "sin" tax and as such is levied on alcohol, tobacco, massage parlours.

[thaigerd]

2kg block of cheddar was 620 baht, last week bought another block... same shop, same cheese, same packing cost 930baht...!!!!!

I questioned the price to be told the price has gone up.

1. Cheese is mostly imported...so a cheese from Old Blighty starts priced off in pounds. What's the Pound to Baht rate these days? Higher pound rate, higher cost for cheese.

2. Cheese isn't a big food item among Thais. Mostly Farangs looking to buy cheese. Low turnover item, higher cost to make a profit.

3. Regarding #2 above....a lot of Asians are Lactose intolerant...Cheese products give them gas.

Re point 1, I do not believe there has been a big change in the baht- pound rate over the last few weeks. If anything I believe you get less baht per pound than say 3 months ago.

I have noticed that butter and cheese have DOUBLED IN PRICE over the past couple of weeks. Does anybody know why?

ThaiGerd, have your prices gone up significantly or is this just a supermarket ripoff.?

No, my prices have not going up, but many other food products in the last couple of weeks.

Gerd

[haroldc]

2kg block of cheddar was 620 baht, last week bought another block... same shop, same cheese, same packing cost 930baht...!!!!!

I questioned the price to be told the price has gone up.

1. Cheese is mostly imported...so a cheese from Old Blighty starts priced off in pounds. What's the Pound to Baht rate these days? Higher pound rate, higher cost for cheese.

2. Cheese isn't a big food item among Thais. Mostly Farangs looking to buy cheese. Low turnover item, higher cost to make a profit.

3. Regarding #2 above....a lot of Asians are Lactose intolerant...Cheese products give them gas.

Re point 1, I do not believe there has been a big change in the baht- pound rate over the last few weeks. If anything I believe you get less baht per pound than say 3 months ago.

I have noticed that butter and cheese have DOUBLED IN PRICE over the past couple of weeks. Does anybody know why?

ThaiGerd, have your prices gone up significantly or is this just a supermarket ripoff.?

No, my prices have not going up, but many other food products in the last couple of weeks.

Gerd

Asking again -- is it possible for individuals to order cheese from your company?

If so, how does one do it, is there a minimum order quantity or baht amount, how would one actually get the cheese, etc.?

[palm]

This has to be the cheesiest thread on ThaiVisa for some time.

It sure would be nice to have more cheese-choice than I can find in Villa, so if there is a company who can supply, please let us know.

[vegas]

Cheese mafia????

My company is importing around 400 different cheeses from France and other european countries but no problems at all:

http://thaigerd.blogspot.com/search?q=cheese

or

http://www.<URL Automatically Removed>/viewforum.php?f=25

Gerd

As Briggsy wrote, you obviously know the cheese market here. So, may I ask you 2 questions: 1) how do your prices compare to supermarket prices; 2) do you sell to individuals, and if so, how? I imagine there are a lot of Thaivisa members who would be interested in buying good cheeses at more favorable prices.

When I compare prices in supermarkets I am much cheaper.

But my company (not mine, but the one I am working for) is supplying to 5* hotels and restaurants.

My cheeses have to be ordered 2 weeks in advance.

Here are a few samples from our range:

Abondance Fermier (Farmhouse product) Raw Milk Savoie

Ami du Chambertin Raw Milk Bourgogne

Banon - vache de Chalais Past. Milk Provence

Banon AOC Raw Milk Provence

Barbichette Chevre - Plain Past. Milk Perigord

Barbichette Chevre -Sauvage (with herbs) Past. Milk Perigord

Basquitou Past. Milk Pyrenees

Beaufort AOC (vaccuum packed) Raw Milk Savoie

Berger de Lozere Past. Milk Causses

Bon Grivois Raw Milk Jura

Brebichon Raw Milk Savoie

Brebis a Racler (Ewe Milk Raclette) Past. Milk Savoie

Brebis aux Herbes Raw Milk Corsica

Brillat Savarin La Tradition Past. Milk Champagne

Brique du Forez Past. Milk Auvergne

Brique du Nord 5 months Past. Milk Nord

Buche Chevre, Tradition - Ashed Raw Milk Val de Loire

Buche Chevre, Tradition - Plain Raw Milk Val de Loire

Buche de Brebis Past. Milk Pyrenees

Buche de Maitre Sequin Past. Milk Poitou

Buchette a la serriette Raw Milk Provence

Cabecous a la liquer de Noix Past. Milk Perigord

Cabri aux Epices Past. Milk Perigord

Cabrioulet Raw Milk Pyrenees

Cantal AOC Raw Milk Auvergne

Caprin Frais Raw Milk Val de Loire

Carre Fleuri Past. Milk Lorraine

Carre Fleuri Mirabelle Past. Milk Lorraine

Carre Kansel Past. Milk Alsace

Carre Kanzel aud epices (with spices) Past. Milk Alsace

Carre Livande Raw Milk Provence

Chabichou du Poitou Raw Milk Poitou

Chaource AOC Raw Milk Champagne

Charolais Raw Milk Bourgogne

Chevre a Racler (Goat Milk Raclette) Past. Milk Savoie

Chevrochon Raw Milk Savoie

Chevrot Raw Milk Poitou

Comte St. Antoine AOC 10/14 months maturity Raw Milk Jura

Comte St. Antoine AOC 10/14 months maturity Raw Milk Jura

Comte St. Antoine AOC 10/14 months maturity Raw Milk Jura

Condor Raw Milk Lyonnais

Couer de Neufchatel AOC Past. Milk Normandie

Couer de Neufchatel AOC Raw Milk Normandie

Coulommers Tradition Ripeness 2/3 Raw Milk Ile de France

Coulommers Tradition Ripeness 2/4 Past. Milk Ile de France

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Fresh / Frais Past. Milk Val de Loire

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Fresh / Frais Raw Milk Val de Loire

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Ripened / Affine Past. Milk Val de Loire

Crottin de Chavignol AOC la Tradition - Ripened / Affine Raw Milk Val de Loire

Cure Nantais Raw Milk Bretagne

Cure Nantais Raw Milk Bretagne

Delice de Cremier Raw Milk Bourgogne

Delice de Cremier Raw Milk Bourgogne

Epoisse AOC Raw Milk Bourgogne

Epoisse AOC Raw Milk Bourgogne

Feuille de Dreux Past. Milk Ile de France

Feuille du Limousin Raw Milk Languedoc

Galet de la Loire Past. Milk Lyonnais

Galet de la Loire Raw Milk Lyonnais

Gaperon Frais Past. Milk Auvergne

Gelette des Templiers Raw Milk Provence

Gourgandine Beaujolais Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Biere Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Herbs Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Pepper Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Violette Past. Milk Lyonnais

Gourgandine Walnut Past. Milk Lyonnais

Grain D'Orge Sur Paille Past. Milk Normandie

Gratte Paille 70% Fat Past. Milk Ile de France

Gratte Paille 70% Fat Past. Milk Ile de France

Gratte Paille 70% Fat Raw Milk Ile de France

Gres des Vosges Raw Milk Alsace

Gres des Vosges Petit (4x125gr) Raw Milk Alsace

Gruyere de Savoie - 1/4 loaf Raw Milk Savoie

Gruyere de Savoie - full wheel Raw Milk Savoie

Hansi Affine Past. Milk Alsace

Hansi affine au Poire William Past. Milk Alsace

Hansi Gewurstraminer Past. Milk Alsace

Jurassic d'ete Affine Raw Milk Jura

Langres - matured with Marc de Champagne Past. Milk Champagne

Langres AOC Past. Milk Champagne

Langres AOC Past. Milk Champagne

Le Cousin Raw Milk Savoie

Le Vigneron Past. Milk Alsace

Le Vigneron Past. Milk Alsace

Livarot AOC Affineur Cru (Matured to perfection) Raw Milk Normandie

Livarot AOC Affineur Cru (Matured to perfection) Raw Milk Normandie

Livarot AOC Perelle Past. Milk Normandie

Livarot AOC Perelle Past. Milk Normandie

Livarot Bouchot Normand 80gr Past. Milk Normandie

Lou Bren (Reblochon Brebis) Raw Milk Causses

Maconais AOC Raw Milk Bourgogne

Maxi-Dome Chevre Raw Milk Val de Loire

Mimolette Beffroi 18 months Past. Milk Nord

Mirabella Past. Milk Champagne

Mont d'Or AOC Raw Milk Jura

Morbier AOC Tradition Raw Milk Jura

Morbier de Chevre Past. Milk Poitou

Motte Lorraine Raw Milk Lorraine

Moulis Raw Milk Pyrenees

Moulis Brebis 8 months Past. Milk Pyrenees

Moulis Chevre 6 months Past. Milk Pyrenees

Mousseron 3months Raw Milk Jura

Munster Gerome AOC Past. Milk Alsace

Munster Gerome AOC Raw Milk Alsace

Olivia Anis Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Basil Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Herbes Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Mandarine - Miel Raw Milk Provence

Olivia Violette - Citron Raw Milk Provence

Ossau Iraty AOC Raw Milk Pyrenees

Paillou Past. Milk Bourgogne

Palet de Chevre Raw Milk Languedoc

Pave D'Auge Cru Raw Milk Normandie

Pave D'Auge du Pere Gauthier Past. Milk Normandie

Pave de L'Helpe a la biere Past. Milk Nord

Pont L'Eveque affine au Cidre (Matured with Cider) Past. Milk Normandie

Pont L'eveque AOC "Marie Harel" Past. Milk Normandie

Pont L'eveque AOC Normandie Raw Milk Normandie

Pouigny St. Pierre AOC Raw Milk Val de Loire

Pelardon des Cevennes AOC Raw Milk Languedoc

Perail Tradition Raw Milk Causses

Perail Tradition - unwrapped Raw Milk Causses

Petit Fiancee Pyrenees Raw Milk Pyrenees

Petit Rousset de Nordheim Raw Milk Alsace

Phoebus Raw Milk Pyrenees

Piastrellas de Bufflonne Raw Milk Auvergne

Picodon Carte Noire Raw Milk Provence

Picolin Picandine Raw Milk Perigord

Pise du Lot Raw Milk Perigord

Pyrenees Fermier - Goat's Milk Raw Milk Pyrenees

Pyrenees Vache Fermier Raw Milk Pyrenees

Raclette au lait Cru (Raw Milk Raclette) Raw Milk Jura

Reblocon de Savoie AOC - mountain made cheese Raw Milk Savoie

Rebochon AOC Fermier - Farmhouse product Raw Milk Savoie

Rocaillou Raw Milk Causses

Rocamadour AOC Raw Milk Perigord

Rondin Brebis Tradtion Past. Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Past. Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Raw Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger (Halve) Raw Milk Causses

Roue d'Alsace Past. Milk Alsace

Selles sur Cher Anjouin AOC Raw Milk Val de Loire

Soreda Taupiniere - Ash Past. Milk Perigord

Soreda Taupiniere - Plain Past. Milk Perigord

Soreda Taupiniere - Truffle Past. Milk Perigord

Soumaintrain cru Raw Milk Bourgogne

Soureliette Raw Milk Causses

St. Felicien Raw Milk Lyonnais

St. marcellin Affinage Lyonnais - in claypot Raw Milk Lyonnais

St. Marcellin Cremier Past. Milk Lyonnais

St. Maure de Touraine AOC La Tradition Raw Milk Val de Loire

St. Nectaire AOC Affine - Farmhouse Cheese Raw Milk Auvergne

St. Nectaire AOC Affine - Mountain Made Cheese Past. Milk Auvergne

Tourmonnier Raw Milk Jura

Trappe d"Echourgnac a la Liquer de Noix Past. Milk Perigord

Tresor de Normandie - La Tradition Past. Milk Normandie

Vache 5 Baies (5 Berries) Past. Milk Perigord

Vache Papaya Past. Milk Perigord

Vacherin de Chevre Raw Milk Pyrenees

Valencay AOC Raw Milk Val de Loire

Valencay Tradition - Plain Past. Milk Val de Loire

Valencay Tradition - Ripened Past. Milk Val de Loire

Valencay Tradition -Ashed Past. Milk Val de Loire

Vezelay Cru Raw Milk Bourgogne

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Camembert Varieties

Camembert - Margalet Tradition Raw Milk Causses

Camembert Amalthee - with Goat Cheese Raw Milk Poitou

Camembert Amalthee - with Goat Cheese - Hexagonal Raw Milk Poitou

Camembert AOC Normandie Tradition Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert AOC Tradition "Marie Harel" Ripeness Leve 3 Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert AOC Tradition "Marie Harel" Ripeness Level 2 Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert au Calvados Pane 1kg Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert au Calvados Pane 250gr Raw Milk Normandie

Camembert Bougon - Goat's Milk Raw Milk Poitou

Camembert Carre de Chevre Past. Milk Poitou

Camembert Tradition Past. Milk Ile de France

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Brie Varieties

Brie "Maire Harel" Raw Milk Normandie

Brie Chevre Quarte Feuille - Goat Brie Past. Milk Poitou

Brie de Brebis Cardabelle Raw Milk Causses

Brie de Brebis Cardabellle e Thyme / Rosmarin Raw Milk Causses

Brie de Meaux Tradition AOC Ripeness 2/3 (in wooden box) Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Meaux Tradition AOC Ripeness 2/3 (wrapped on staw) Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Melun , pasteurised Past. Milk Ile de France

Brie de Melun Fermier AOC Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Melun Fermier de Rotschild AOC Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie de Nangis Tradition (Ripeness 2/3) Past. Milk Ile de France

Brie de Nangis Tradition (Ripeness 2/3) Raw Milk Ile de France

Brie Royal aux Truffes Past. Milk Ile de France

Brie Royal aux Truffes Raw Milk Ile de France

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Blue Cheese Varieties

Bleu - Capri Bleu Raw Milk Savoie

Bleu - Gailazur Raw Milk Savoie

Bleu de Auvergne (Fourme d'Ambert) AOC Past. Milk Auvergne

Bleu de Cercors Sassenage AOC Past. Milk Lyonnais

Bleu de Chevre Raw Milk Languedoc

Bleu de Chvre - Basques Raw Milk Pyrenees

Bleu des Basques Raw Milk Pyrenees

Bleu des Causses AOC Raw Milk Causses

Bleu des Pyrenees Ostari Past. Milk Pyrenees

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger (Halve) Raw Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Raw Milk Causses

Roquefort AOC Vieux Berger Past. Milk Causses

FARMHOUSE & AOC CHEESES -Tomme Varieties

Tomette de Provence Raw Milk Provence

Tomette de Provence a l'Huille Raw Milk Provence

Tomme - La Marotte Raw Milk Causses

Tomme au Marc du Jura Raw Milk Jura

Tomme Crayeuse Raw Milk Savoie

Tomme de Brebis de Severac - la - Chateau Past. Milk Causses

Tomme de Chevre Past. Milk Savoie

Tomme de Chevre - Farmhouse Cheese Past. Milk Ile de France

Tomme de Chevre - Farmhouse Cheese Raw Milk Ile de France

Tomme de Chevre au Muscadet Past. Milk Bretagne

Tomme de Chevre d'Aydius Past. Milk Pyrenees

Tomme de Chevre du Dauphine Past. Milk Lyonnais

Tomme de Fedou (aged over 60 days) Raw Milk Causses

Tomme de L'illwald Bear's Garlic Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de L'illwald Caraway Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de L'illwald Plain Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de L'illwald Stinging Nettles Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de Montagne Vielle Past. Milk Lyonnais

Tomme de Pres du Reid Raw Milk Alsace

Tomme de savoie Brebis (Ewe Milk) Raw Milk Savoie

Tomme de Savoie Fermier (Farmhouse product) Raw Milk Savoie

Tommette Chevre du Puy du Fou Past. Milk Bretagne

PLATEAUX - CHEESE PLATTER (Refer to catolog for details)

PLATEAU 7 FROMAGES AOC FROMI 2KGX1

PLATEAU AOC FROMI 4KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE 11 FROMAGES 2,5KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE 6 FROMAGES 1KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE FENETRE 750GX4

PLATEAU LUXE FENETRE 9 FROMAGES 1,7KGX1

PLATEAU LUXE ROND 1KG MS

PLATEAU OVALE PM 495G X1 MS WOODEN BOX

PLATEAU SAISON NEW ASSORT EVERY M 2KGX1

PLATEAU SAISON NEW ASSORT,EVERY M 4KGX1

PLATEAU SELECTION "MOF" 2KG

PLATEAU SELECTION "MOF" 4KG

PLATEAU SELECTION "MOF" CUSTOMIZED 2KGX1

PLATEAU TRADITION 10 FROMAGES 3KGX1

PLATEAU TRADITION 12 FROMAGES 4KGX1

PLATEAU TRADITION 3KG MS

PLATEAU TRADITION 6 FROMAGES 2KGX1

Gerd

Gerd, have you seen the Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch?

[thaigerd]

Just youtubed it, greaaaaaaaaaaat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3c3qJIwMDc

Gerd

[madjbs]

Asking again -- is it possible for individuals to order cheese from your company?

If so, how does one do it, is there a minimum order quantity or baht amount, how would one actually get the cheese, etc.?

And again..........

Edited March 24, 2008 by madjbs