Silence

[Daveybabe]

I can't hear any more puffed up pouting from the Aussies at the moment about how they are going to flog the poms at cricket. Perhaps, as when the game was looking in doubt for them, they began switching to rugby.

Perhaps they can't handle the fact that they simply weren't good enough.

Ashes to ashes....

[ThaiPauly]

Not quiet here

We really showed 'em eh?

Not that I am expecting much from this thread...its not Thai related anymore

Edited August 24, 2009 by ThaiPauly

[Chinavet]

Congratulations England, good win and well done. Aussie now drops back to 4th spot on the ranking, just ahead of England at 5th.

[egg]

I can't hear any more puffed up pouting from the Aussies at the moment about how they are going to flog the poms at cricket. Perhaps, as when the game was looking in doubt for them, they began switching to rugby.

Perhaps they can't handle the fact that they simply weren't good enough.

Ashes to ashes....

we are not doing very well in the rugby either ,,,, sad times for the greatest country on earth ,,,, any one for a game of 2 up ????

[Ulysses G.]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

[ThaiPauly]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

because thats "not cricket" UG.

Anyway THEY started it

[StevieH]

aussies i've encountered so far have been as sporting and dignified as ricky ponting and his team were, fair dos to them. cracking series of cricket and a dramatic final test, lovely stuff.

[Daveybabe]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

because thats "not cricket" UG.

Anyway THEY started it

Completely agree. They opened the debate, they mouthed off about how they were going to flog the poms and gave it all the over-confident we-will-win bit. Quite confidence shows the Brits again to be way ahead of the undeveloped world.

[Daveybabe]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

Could you see the Aussies doing that if they had (by some miracle) won?

[Daveybabe]

I can't hear any more puffed up pouting from the Aussies at the moment about how they are going to flog the poms at cricket. Perhaps, as when the game was looking in doubt for them, they began switching to rugby.

Perhaps they can't handle the fact that they simply weren't good enough.

Ashes to ashes....

we are not doing very well in the rugby either ,,,, sad times for the greatest country on earth ,,,, any one for a game of 2 up ????

2up? Is that something that distraught Aussies do when the catch kangaroos after chasing them?

[QED]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

My Aussie mate wasn't too gentlemanly when he had to hand over 5,000 baht last night (not gambling of course, money he owed me)

All the Oz press is full of excuses and slagging off the wicket, no surprise I guess as they do seem to be one of the most ingracious nations in victory or defeat.

Well done you English boys!!

[Daveybabe]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

My Aussie mate wasn't too gentlemanly when he had to hand over 5,000 baht last night (not gambling of course, money he owed me)

All the Oz press is full of excuses and slagging off the wicket, no surprise I guess as they do seem to be one of the most ingracious nations in victory or defeat.

Well done you English boys!!

Secret here: We English don't really like cricket, we only participate in it to out-do the Aussies.

[uptheos]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

Are you kidding UG - this THE ASHES!

We'll be rubbing it in until 2011

[Ulysses G.]

I happen to know that uptheos is a true English gentleman, so I guess I just don't understand these things. Have at it guys!

[Will27]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

My Aussie mate wasn't too gentlemanly when he had to hand over 5,000 baht last night (not gambling of course, money he owed me)

All the Oz press is full of excuses and slagging off the wicket, no surprise I guess as they do seem to be one of the most ingracious nations in victory or defeat.

Well done you English boys!!

Can you show the links to the Oz press making excuses?

All of the Oz press I've read is saying that England were

the better team (no argument here) and the Aussies

are getting on a bit. Not a figment of your wild imagination

is it?

Yes, I agree the Aussies can be more gracious, especially

in defeat. It's just that we're not used to it as much as

the Poms

Regards

Will

[QED]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

My Aussie mate wasn't too gentlemanly when he had to hand over 5,000 baht last night (not gambling of course, money he owed me)

All the Oz press is full of excuses and slagging off the wicket, no surprise I guess as they do seem to be one of the most ingracious nations in victory or defeat.

Well done you English boys!!

Can you show the links to the Oz press making excuses?

All of the Oz press I've read is saying that England were

the better team (no argument here) and the Aussies

are getting on a bit. Not a figment of your wild imagination

is it?

Yes, I agree the Aussies can be more gracious, especially

in defeat. It's just that we're not used to it as much as

the Poms

Regards

Will

The Aussies like to call us the whingeing Poms, but who's whining now? Judge for yourself.

"Oval curator Bill Gordon was under heavy fire for producing a controversial pitch where balls were going through the top of the pitch, bringing up explosions of dust and bouncing randomly."

Ben Dorries, The Australian

"Hardly a soul in England will complain if their brave lads can dismiss Australia bowling last on a dusty, dodgy deck to regain The Ashes. Heck, groundsman Bill Gordon might even receive an MBE."

Malcolm Conn, The Australian

"England has ordered and prepared a dodgy deck. The talk about producing a typical Oval pitch was all smoke and mirrors. England provided a track as dry as a camel's tongue and as eager to spin as Gandhi."

Peter Roebuck, The Age

"Unless the Australia side conjures a miracle on a pitch crumbling faster than their hopes, Ricky Ponting will captain a consecutive series loss in England following a day two massacre at The Oval."

Sydney Morning Herald

"Broad's 5-19 in 47 deliveries had The Oval crowd in delirium but Australia will privately question the preparation of the wicket, which has been slammed by certain observers as 'overbaked' after breaking up on the first day."

Jamie Pandaram, Sydney Morning Herald

"Fourteen years of world domination is in danger of crumbling with the Oval pitch."

Herald Sun

Source

[cdnvic]

I can't hear any more puffed up pouting from the Aussies at the moment about how they are going to flog the poms at cricket. Perhaps, as when the game was looking in doubt for them, they began switching to rugby.

They should have switched sooner

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/8203840.stm

[Will27]

Somebody has to lose. Why not pretend to be gentlemen and not bother to rub it in?

My Aussie mate wasn't too gentlemanly when he had to hand over 5,000 baht last night (not gambling of course, money he owed me)

All the Oz press is full of excuses and slagging off the wicket, no surprise I guess as they do seem to be one of the most ingracious nations in victory or defeat.

Well done you English boys!!

Can you show the links to the Oz press making excuses?

All of the Oz press I've read is saying that England were

the better team (no argument here) and the Aussies

are getting on a bit. Not a figment of your wild imagination

is it?

Yes, I agree the Aussies can be more gracious, especially

in defeat. It's just that we're not used to it as much as

the Poms

Regards

Will

The Aussies like to call us the whingeing Poms, but who's whining now? Judge for yourself.

"Oval curator Bill Gordon was under heavy fire for producing a controversial pitch where balls were going through the top of the pitch, bringing up explosions of dust and bouncing randomly."

Ben Dorries, The Australian

"Hardly a soul in England will complain if their brave lads can dismiss Australia bowling last on a dusty, dodgy deck to regain The Ashes. Heck, groundsman Bill Gordon might even receive an MBE."

Malcolm Conn, The Australian

"England has ordered and prepared a dodgy deck. The talk about producing a typical Oval pitch was all smoke and mirrors. England provided a track as dry as a camel's tongue and as eager to spin as Gandhi."

Peter Roebuck, The Age

"Unless the Australia side conjures a miracle on a pitch crumbling faster than their hopes, Ricky Ponting will captain a consecutive series loss in England following a day two massacre at The Oval."

Sydney Morning Herald

"Broad's 5-19 in 47 deliveries had The Oval crowd in delirium but Australia will privately question the preparation of the wicket, which has been slammed by certain observers as 'overbaked' after breaking up on the first day."

Jamie Pandaram, Sydney Morning Herald

"Fourteen years of world domination is in danger of crumbling with the Oval pitch."

Herald Sun

Source

And, where are the excuses?

Name one excuse for me?

I can only see comments about

a dry pitch which is the same for

both teams.

If you're gonna crap on mate,

at least be honest.

Regards

Will

[uptheos]

A lot of the Australian press are blaming Ponting, the first captain to lose two Ashes series since the late 19th century. They are also heavily blaming the cricket selectors.

I didn't read any of this after the 4th test, when the Aussies won by an innings and 80 runs!

Pretty fickle bunch.

[Will27]

A lot of the Australian press are blaming Ponting, the first captain to lose two Ashes series since the late 19th century. They are also heavily blaming the cricket selectors.

I didn't read any of this after the 4th test, when the Aussies won by an innings and 80 runs!

Pretty fickle bunch.

When any major sporting event is lost, the

captain will always come under scrutiny.

Par for the course.

When 2 of the 3 selectors come out in the

press and admit making a mistake by not

playing a spinner, of course they will come

under fire.

Speaking of press, imagine what the vicriolic

Fleet Street press would've written had

England had lost!

Regards

Will

[KevinHunt]

When any major sporting event is lost, the

captain will always come under scrutiny.

Par for the course.

When 2 of the 3 selectors come out in the

press and admit making a mistake by not

playing a spinner, of course they will come

under fire.

Speaking of press, imagine what the vicriolic

Fleet Street press would've written had

England had lost!

Regards

Will

Nice poem, but it doesn't rhyme!!

[uptheos]

He can’t bat or bowl and his knees are so shot he can’t even field at slip any more.

But there’s a cartoon-strip hero inside Freddie Flintoff that just can’t say goodbye.

So yesterday, on his last day as a Test cricketer, our Popeye in cricket whites lumbered out on to The Oval and stole the Ashes.

That’s right. Freddie Flintoff, with one tail-ender’s wicket and 29 runs to his name in the entire match, stole the glory on the day England regained the biggest prize in cricket.

That’s how fate found Flintoff yesterday even though he was fielding at mid-on where glory had no right to seek him out. It seemed he was seeing out the last few hours of his Test career in the shadows, sheltering under his wide-brimmed hat, encouraging his colleagues on the front line.

And maybe that’s why Hussey underestimated him. Maybe that’s why Hussey forgot about the law of star quality and took a risky single to the wrong bloke.

Took a single to a man who lives for making grand gestures on a cricket pitch and is going to miss it like hel_l now he’s gone. A man who knew this was his last chance to win a Test.

It was a hel_l of a throw, too. Flat, fast and deadly accurate – it broke the stumps with Ponting still a few inches short of his ground.

Flintoff knew Ponting was out. He stood stock-still in splendid isolation, his legs splayed, his arms raised high above his head in the narcissistic pose he has designated his chosen mode of celebration for this series.

Ponting didn’t want to believe it. He stood his ground while the third umpire studied the replays. Hoping that what is probably his final Ashes Test in England hadn’t ended like this.

Australia never recovered from that moment. Flintoff broke them. His moment of magic destroyed them.

So Flintoff and Ponting are immortalised together now in a moment of breathtaking melodrama, both saying farewells of different sorts and of vastly differing moods.

Just as when Don Bradman was bowled for a second ball duck at The Oval in 1948 in his final Test match, robbing him of finishing his career with an average of 100, it felt strangely as if Ponting had been cheated of something yesterday.

Cheated of decorating his momentous career with one last epic innings in England. Cheated of going out on his own terms, run out by a team-mate’s bad call.

That, of course, is not the fate that has befallen Flintoff. He is going out very much on his own terms.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/2009...15875-21619442/

[uptheos]

A lot of the Australian press are blaming Ponting, the first captain to lose two Ashes series since the late 19th century. They are also heavily blaming the cricket selectors.

I didn't read any of this after the 4th test, when the Aussies won by an innings and 80 runs!

Pretty fickle bunch.

When any major sporting event is lost, the

captain will always come under scrutiny.

Par for the course.

When 2 of the 3 selectors come out in the

press and admit making a mistake by not

playing a spinner, of course they will come

under fire.

Speaking of press, imagine what the vicriolic

Fleet Street press would've written had

England had lost!

Regards

Will

But we didn't lose, we won - so why try to imagine something that will not happen.

[Will27]

A lot of the Australian press are blaming Ponting, the first captain to lose two Ashes series since the late 19th century. They are also heavily blaming the cricket selectors.

I didn't read any of this after the 4th test, when the Aussies won by an innings and 80 runs!

Pretty fickle bunch.

When any major sporting event is lost, the

captain will always come under scrutiny.

Par for the course.

When 2 of the 3 selectors come out in the

press and admit making a mistake by not

playing a spinner, of course they will come

under fire.

Speaking of press, imagine what the vicriolic

Fleet Street press would've written had

England had lost!

Regards

Will

But we didn't lose, we won - so why try to imagine something that will not happen.

Ok then, bad example, go back and read what your great

press wrote when the Poms lost the 2nd test. So don't

talk about fickle.

BTW, we're still above you in the ranking

Regards

Will

[QED]

And, where are the excuses?

Name one excuse for me?

I can only see comments about

a dry pitch which is the same for

both teams.

If you're gonna crap on mate,

at least be honest.

Regards

Will

I don't think it was dishonest, sounds like excuses to me

[Will27]

And, where are the excuses?

Name one excuse for me?

I can only see comments about

a dry pitch which is the same for

both teams.

If you're gonna crap on mate,

at least be honest.

Regards

Will

I don't think it was dishonest, sounds like excuses to me

Well best to look up "excuse" in the dictionary fella.

Out of all of the quotes you provided, not one said

"if the Aussies lose, it's because of the pitch".

Now that would be an excuse.

Just saying the pitch is dry is not an excuse.

Regards

Will

[uptheos]

A lot of the Australian press are blaming Ponting, the first captain to lose two Ashes series since the late 19th century. They are also heavily blaming the cricket selectors.

I didn't read any of this after the 4th test, when the Aussies won by an innings and 80 runs!

Pretty fickle bunch.

When any major sporting event is lost, the

captain will always come under scrutiny.

Par for the course.

When 2 of the 3 selectors come out in the

press and admit making a mistake by not

playing a spinner, of course they will come

under fire.

Speaking of press, imagine what the vicriolic

Fleet Street press would've written had

England had lost!

Regards

Will

But we didn't lose, we won - so why try to imagine something that will not happen.

Ok then, bad example, go back and read what your great

press wrote when the Poms lost the 2nd test. So don't

talk about fickle.

BTW, we're still above you in the ranking

Regards

Will

No problem with you being above us mate, you already were - but it must feel terrible having England knock you from 1st to 4th overnight?

[Daveybabe]

I can't hear any more puffed up pouting from the Aussies at the moment about how they are going to flog the poms at cricket. Perhaps, as when the game was looking in doubt for them, they began switching to rugby.

They should have switched sooner

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/8203840.stm

And permanently.

[doodee]

Not into cricket unless i can play,but this is sooooooooooooooo sweet after some kangaroo came on here spouting about the POMS are going to lose

Will not need sugar for weeks now as this is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo sweet,and a meesage for the kangaroos,

sow wow.and som nam nar

[uptheos]

Not into cricket unless i can play,but this is sooooooooooooooo sweet after some kangaroo came on here spouting about the POMS are going to lose

Will not need sugar for weeks now as this is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo sweet,and a meesage for the kangaroos,

sow wow.and som nam nar

Hmmm - where is Blinky Bill?

It's OK BB, everyone loses face now and then - don't be ashamed -you can come out now it's no big deal... you just spouted your mouth off and got it wrong, that's all.

No one here is out to to increase your woes.