Hammered says that "everyone in a democracy is innocent until proven guilty", but that is simply not true. Not all democratic countries include this tenet in their system of law. Some democratic countries operate under Napoleonic Law which does not contain this presumption.

Is that "logical" enough for you?

Actually I don't know of any countries where the legal system proclaims someone is innocent until proven guilty in court, in cases where they have been arrested and are to be tried. That's just an old jingoistic myth about Amurrica. In fact if you have been arrested for a crime, you are a criminal suspect until the court has found you either innocent or guilty.

Hammered says that "everyone in a democracy is innocent until proven guilty", but that is simply not true. Not all democratic countries include this tenet in their system of law. Some democratic countries operate under Napoleonic Law which does not contain this presumption.

Is that "logical" enough for you?

Actually I don't know of any countries where the legal system proclaims someone is innocent until proven guilty in court, in cases where they have been arrested and are to be tried. That's just an old jingoistic myth about Amurrica. In fact if you have been arrested for a crime, you are a criminal suspect until the court has found you either innocent or guilty.

But they can only be found guilty if it's beyond reasonable doubt. Otherwise the court has to find them innocent. Except in Scotland of course, where they can find "not proven".

Disregarding any other reason, a "security act" such as this teaches intolerance.

A demonstration against one thing is ok. A demonstration against 2 or more things is a recipe for a disaster.