Airport Taxes When Leaving The U.k.

[marshbags]

I note that the U.K. airport taxes are being substancially increased forthwith, and quite considerably for business and first class passengers on long haul flights.

Ref url :- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8336373.stm

Does anyone know of what liablities the passenger in possesion of an air ticket purchased in Thailand has regarding payments, when returning please ?

marshbags

[alant]

if you are in possesion of the ticket, i believe you will have no additional liability

[alyx]

It couldn't be

If that were the case they would have to charge the passengers who have made an early purchase in the UK as well, as you kow what difference it makes on the fare if you bought your ticket a year ago or just yesterday

[trainman34014]

I note that the U.K. airport taxes are being substancially increased forthwith, and quite considerably for business and first class passengers on long haul flights.

Ref url :- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8336373.stm

Does anyone know of what liablities the passenger in possesion of an air ticket purchased in Thailand has regarding payments, when returning please ?

marshbags

From what I've read it will only apply to tickets purchased in the UK.

[alyx]

I have read the article, I know I should have done it in the first place. But, by doing so, I do not understand your question for two reasons

1) This will be enforced in a 12 month time

2) Whether one buys their tickets in Thailand, Uk or any other countries, they will be subjected to this rise as long as they travel from/to the UK

Taxes vary from one country to another: one has to pay the taxes for where one takes the plane and where one lands if I am not mistaken

[chiang mai]

I believe the proposed increase only applies to tickets purchased in the UK, I'm pretty sure about that. There's different charges are based on the distance traveled and the additional long haul charges will mean that many Brits will travel to Europe and transit to Thailand from there.

[FRM-BKK]

I believe the proposed increase only applies to tickets purchased in the UK, I'm pretty sure about that. There's different charges are based on the distance traveled and the additional long haul charges will mean that many Brits will travel to Europe and transit to Thailand from there.

Incorrect !!

It doesn't matter where you purchase your ticket or where you fly from. If your departing or destination airport is in the UK, you will be subject to the APD.

All you need to do is look at the fare breakdown and you will find the charges separated in UK - APD (UK Air Passenger Duty) and UK - PSC (UK Passenger Service Charge) the latter being levied by BAA.

New charges came into effect Sunday 01 November 2009. The next increase will come into effect on the 1st of November 2010, unless the Government does a U-turn; which is what happened in the Netherlands.

Schiphol airport lost many departing passengers to airports like Dusseldorf and Brussels because of the high charges levied by the Dutch Government.

After 6 months, they reversed the decision.

Frm-Bkk

[smokie36]

I believe the proposed increase only applies to tickets purchased in the UK, I'm pretty sure about that. There's different charges are based on the distance traveled and the additional long haul charges will mean that many Brits will travel to Europe and transit to Thailand from there.

Incorrect !!

It doesn't matter where you purchase your ticket or where you fly from. If your departing or destination airport is in the UK, you will be subject to the APD.

All you need to do is look at the fare breakdown and you will find the charges separated in UK - APD (UK Air Passenger Duty) and UK - PSC (UK Passenger Service Charge) the latter being levied by BAA.

New charges came into effect Sunday 01 November 2009. The next increase will come into effect on the 1st of November 2010, unless the Government does a U-turn; which is what happened in the Netherlands.

Schiphol airport lost many departing passengers to airports like Dusseldorf and Brussels because of the high charges levied by the Dutch Government.

After 6 months, they reversed the decision.

Frm-Bkk

Its no big deal. Now have a decent excuse for a day or two in Amsterdam bedore flying to BKK.

I guess the worst hit will be direct flights with BA, EVA and Thai.

[trainman34014]

I believe the proposed increase only applies to tickets purchased in the UK, I'm pretty sure about that. There's different charges are based on the distance traveled and the additional long haul charges will mean that many Brits will travel to Europe and transit to Thailand from there.

Incorrect !!

It doesn't matter where you purchase your ticket or where you fly from. If your departing or destination airport is in the UK, you will be subject to the APD.

All you need to do is look at the fare breakdown and you will find the charges separated in UK - APD (UK Air Passenger Duty) and UK - PSC (UK Passenger Service Charge) the latter being levied by BAA.

New charges came into effect Sunday 01 November 2009. The next increase will come into effect on the 1st of November 2010, unless the Government does a U-turn; which is what happened in the Netherlands.

Schiphol airport lost many departing passengers to airports like Dusseldorf and Brussels because of the high charges levied by the Dutch Government.

After 6 months, they reversed the decision.

Frm-Bkk

The present Government will be doing a U turn and heading right into the rubbish bin next June. However; the Tories won't change these new plans because they will need all the Tax they can get!

[chiang mai]

The new bands and the rates of duty for 2009-10 and 2010-11 are as follows:

Economy Other Classes

2009-10 2010-11 2009-10 2010-11

Band A (0 - 2000) £11 £12 £22 £24

Band B (2001 – 4000) £45 £60 £90 £120

Band C (4001 – 6000) £50 £75 £100 £150

Band D (over 6000) £55 £85 £110 £170

The case for not traveling Business Class is starting to look strong, as is the case for flying Bangkok/Amsterdam and Amsterdam/London.

[kosh]

Its no big deal. Now have a decent excuse for a day or two in Amsterdam bedore flying to BKK.

I guess the worst hit will be direct flights with BA, EVA and Thai.

Never had to wait more than 2 hours for a connection in the nice Amsterdam airport.

Also best price on EU on electronics....

[marshbags]

Thanks for all the replies and additional observations.

As part one of the new changes have now supposedly come into force, has anyone done a return on a ticket purchased outside the U.K. please ?

and what charges, were requested.

Thailand being the one that effects most of us out here.

marshbags

[asanee]

it is even more simple:

tickets bought in the EU have-by law since a few years (you Brits may even start to learn what the EU has in positive things!) to be the final attainable price INCLUDING all taxes. Event the likes of RYAN do that now-their other charges are ''voluntary' like for checked luggage, the way you pay etc.

Tickets bought here in Thailand are nearly always quoted without the taxes-these also include fuel surcharges. The higher tax for leaving the Uk on return will simple be raised/put into that. A daft simple way to check out: try out a few airline booking engines-and look at what they quote in additonals.

[Dah fahrang]

Thanks for all the replies and additional observations.

As part one of the new changes have now supposedly come into force, has anyone done a return on a ticket purchased outside the U.K. please ?

and what charges, were requested.

Thailand being the one that effects most of us out here.

marshbags

Yes.

Today I bought an online return 'Biz' Class ticket c/o the 3 Day Lufthansa Sale via LH Thailand for April departure.

Bangkok - Manchester - Bangkok: advertised price @ 50,000 Baht.

Taxes, add another 21,295 Baht, plus LH ticketing charge of 500 baht, total price 72,425 Baht.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Lufthansa, (Qatar, Etihad and other airline web sites I have been watching) have this pernicious tax calculated into the total ticket price. Particularly annoying, because Manchester to Bangkok is via Frankfurt. Manchester - Frankfurt is a short-haul, an inside Europe departure.

BUT because the ticket is a 'through' ticket with Lufthansa, the UK departure is classified as longhaul, so attracting the longhaul tax band.

SO, Alternative 2:

Bangkok - Frankfurt - Bangkok @50,000 baht. Taxes etc. 12,880 baht.

Add a FlyBE connection Frankfurt - Manchester - Frankfurt @£77, plus bag charge of 12 Euros, (about 8 quid) each way, £16. FlyBE price £93, x 54 5,000 Baht. Total journey price 67,880 Baht.

The FlyBE ticket is Economy, but the journey is short-haul, and within the EU, so it attracts the lowest rate of Alistair Darling's tax.

Saving: 4,500 baht. This is a tidy saving, but with quite a wait in Frankfurt on the outward leg.

[marshbags]

Yes.

Today I bought an online return 'Biz' Class ticket c/o the 3 Day Lufthansa Sale via LH Thailand for April departure.

Bangkok - Manchester - Bangkok: advertised price @ 50,000 Baht.

Taxes, add another 21,295 Baht, plus LH ticketing charge of 500 baht, total price 72,425 Baht.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Lufthansa, (Qatar, Etihad and other airline web sites I have been watching) have this pernicious tax calculated into the total ticket price. Particularly annoying, because Manchester to Bangkok is via Frankfurt. Manchester - Frankfurt is a short-haul, an inside Europe departure.

BUT because the ticket is a 'through' ticket with Lufthansa, the UK departure is classified as longhaul, so attracting the longhaul tax band.

Not bad Df and thanks for the info.

Just did a comparison for curiousities sake.

I did a quick check on a Qatar Frankfurt return and fare wise it was 83,485 baht inc. taxes.

Bangkok / Manchester which I do is quoted at 93,210 baht for the period you go. ( I usually go first week in May )

My last flight was just under 90 baht so this isn,t bad taking it into account for myself and the U.K taxes i was expecting to pay on my return.

Time wise my journey is approx 16.5 hours both ways with a small stop in Doha, and is a big factor for me personally

Frankfurt is 14.15 from Bangkok but the return is 23.20. with Qatar.

I usually book after the new year is out of the way and they start to offer reduced prices.

Well done on getting a good bargain with LUFT. ( Which I noted was being flashed on the Nation newspaper yesterday )

Cheers and good luck

marshbags

[Matan]

Yes.

Today I bought an online return 'Biz' Class ticket c/o the 3 Day Lufthansa Sale via LH Thailand for April departure.

Bangkok - Manchester - Bangkok: advertised price @ 50,000 Baht.

Taxes, add another 21,295 Baht, plus LH ticketing charge of 500 baht, total price 72,425 Baht.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Lufthansa, (Qatar, Etihad and other airline web sites I have been watching) have this pernicious tax calculated into the total ticket price. Particularly annoying, because Manchester to Bangkok is via Frankfurt. Manchester - Frankfurt is a short-haul, an inside Europe departure.

BUT because the ticket is a 'through' ticket with Lufthansa, the UK departure is classified as longhaul, so attracting the longhaul tax band.

Not bad Df and thanks for the info.

Just did a comparison for curiousities sake.

I did a quick check on a Qatar Frankfurt return and fare wise it was 83,485 baht inc. taxes.

Bangkok / Manchester which I do is quoted at 93,210 baht for the period you go. ( I usually go first week in May )

My last flight was just under 90 baht so this isn,t bad taking it into account for myself and the U.K taxes i was expecting to pay on my return.

Time wise my journey is approx 16.5 hours both ways with a small stop in Doha, and is a big factor for me personally

Frankfurt is 14.15 from Bangkok but the return is 23.20. with Qatar.

I usually book after the new year is out of the way and they start to offer reduced prices.

Well done on getting a good bargain with LUFT. ( Which I noted was being flashed on the Nation newspaper yesterday )

Cheers and good luck

marshbags

Are you guys all flying business class? 60,000 for a return? 90,000

Looking on Opodo and there are flights with Qatar for under 40,000, ones with Lufthansa that are 14 hours both ways for 42,000 for May 2010... 39,000 if you fly in April...

[smokie36]

Are you guys all flying business class? 60,000 for a return? 90,000

Looking on Opodo and there are flights with Qatar for under 40,000, ones with Lufthansa that are 14 hours both ways for 42,000 for May 2010... 39,000 if you fly in April...

Hi Matan

Are those flights also business class?

[Matan]

Are you guys all flying business class? 60,000 for a return? 90,000

Looking on Opodo and there are flights with Qatar for under 40,000, ones with Lufthansa that are 14 hours both ways for 42,000 for May 2010... 39,000 if you fly in April...

Hi Matan

Are those flights also business class?

No, they're economy. Business would be nice though right?

Though unless you're 6'6 economy on Qatar or Ethihad is fine, lots of food, free drinks, movies, etc.