Bangkok: Don't Leave Home Saturday: Governor Warns

Grey11 · March 20, 2010

isn't there a any consideration being taken here that this kind of behavior is, or should be, somewhat embarrassing to the country? Throwing feces, bags of urine, spilling blood, "priests" kneeling in the blood and sticking his hands in it, the single symbolic stick of incense, enough is enough! Sanctions to whatever country houses this terrorist coward that has never lived the life of luxury and only wears one 1 million baht watch at a time. Why is this still going on? Let's get it over with, all it takes is one person, no taking on mobs. Hand him over. simplicity has it's place, but does it here?

Well said.

SimonBSgp · March 20, 2010

says it all.

heard on thai news that tourist from europe and even other asean countries are avoiding LOS more and more...
soon LOS can add ER to their name...

what does it spell ?

It spells LOSER sir

stingray · March 20, 2010

It has been reported that Jatuporn has threatened that this protest could last for a year if it takes that long to get the house dissolution.

I don't tink so. Who pays for the gasoline bill?

ericthai · March 20, 2010

Hooray for the poor!
Time to get nasty I dont blame them. If I were Thai I would be in the thick and middle of this.

So now you elitists go ahead and bash me

My answer to you is simple and to the point ---->

Has any protest achieved anything, the yellows got into government by a court decision not by protesting and blocking the airport, all that did was cost a lot of people their jobs, and a lot of them come from the north, the reds have not achieved anything by burning buses, stopping international meetings, blocking the city, throwing blood around the city, this cost people jobs and the poor people are first to lose their jobs not the people with money.

if they put the money and energy they spend protesting into being a strong viable opposition they would achiev a lot more and not hurt the people they are trying to help as they do now, this is the same for both parties.

Yes! the PAD (yellow shirts) protest did work. Guess you have no been paying attention, the yellow shirts got exactly what they wanted which was to have the PM at the time step down. When they closed the airport for several days he had no choice, so they win!

anon467367354 · March 20, 2010

It has been reported that Jatuporn has threatened that this protest could last for a year if it takes that long to get the house dissolution.

I don't tink so. Who pays for the gasoline bill?

If this is going to last for a year, wouldn't it make more sense if the people just stayed in Bangkok? I can see it now, long cues of people waiting for their "blood" money. I had a dream I saw Taksin saying on the television that no body would have to stand in line for 500 baht again! Life is but a dream, sha boom sha boom

moresomekl · March 20, 2010

Yeah well go buy yourself a good pair of glasses and read again , thats what i said , all coup are illegal .

Yes then why not wait for the nationwide house election just to see who wins ? Obvious answer , is it not ?

Thought the rules are the rules ...

Everybody is an idiot that dont think like you obviously , so i wont take your desciption seriously .

Talk about needing glasses, I said that your comment about the coup was irrelevant because all coups are illegal, so you are just stating the obvious.

Do you know anything that was going on during that time? The reason they had a coup was because Taksin dissolved the parliament and called for a snap election, and with all the things Taksin was trying to achive to keep himself in office forever the coup seemed like the best course of action which was given an ok by the king.

Im not saying anyone has to think like me, Im telling you to get your facts straight. Go do some research and you will find out what happened. I know what took place I was here and saw and understood what was going on where you?

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Ok

I was in Thailand and left for a business trip the day of the coup , or the Sunday just before , cant remember (the coup was on Monday)

I have a thai gf for twelve years and we have two kids

I do not contest that you know what happened or do not have your facts straight but so do I . Incidentally most of my farangs friends living in Thailand know a rat ass about thai politics , and at the time i did not have much interest in it either , so living in Thailand and knowing what happens are 2 different things . Anyway my interest changed when i saw the circus that this country and his people ,that i have come to love and respect, is going through .

Now back to the fact . Who is Thaksin ? Is he a crook ? Insofar as crook means breaking the law , no he is not a crook . He is far to smart for this and surrounded am sure by lawyers that are on the law even brighter then he is . He would not had lasted as PM had he done illegal things . Is he a dummy ? Not at all , quite the contrary he is very bright . What he is , is a ruthless businessman without moral or scruples that has exploited loopholes in the country legal an constitutional system to his advantage . Even in the sales of his shares in Shin Corp , he found loopholes in the country legal system to avoid him paying taxes . That is why he is morally bankrupt , if you are the PM of a country you dont avoid paying taxes even if there is ways of not doing so . Its a matter of morality and setting the example . That is only one example , there are many others of course , it would be too long to go thru each one of them

Yes the coup ,short of HM asking Thaksin to leave which would had been surely accepted by all thais , was probably the only way to get him to leave . But if a country constitution says the PM can be elected an unlimited number of time , who is to blame , the guy who get elected or the constitution . You see my point ? The coup was perhaps the only way but it was illegal . Then we had two PM pro Thaksin that were legally removed this time but on what many sees as mere technicalities to serve the agenda of "an elite" .

It is very contradictory that while most thais are afraid ,and as well they should be , of PM dictatorship , they have failed to establish a proper system of check and balances that ensure that dictatorship can not happen . Not limiting the number of time a PM can get elected was one of them . Having the legislative and executive branch not clearly separated is another . The parliament should vote the laws , censor the PM but absolutely not name the PM . That should be left to the people of Thailand thru direct elections , or HM or both . Also it should not be feasible for the parliament to change the constituton . The judiciary should also be totally independant of both the legislative and executive branch . Only then people with no moral like Thaksin can be prevented from keeping power for too long or becoming PM again if he returns . Right now is not fullproof , unless the PM host cooking shows that is ....

Now what happen is that the red shirts are organised under someone whose acts were not illegal but immoral , perceiving that their just cause for a better life , where nobody took attention of them until Thaksin, has been persecuted ... And they are very unhappy and frustrated about it . To them they have been robbed of their rights as thai citizen . And that is the reason for their protest . In all honesty i cant blame them .

Well let see how Abhisit can navigate thru all this ....

Edited March 20, 2010 by moresomekl

moresomekl · March 20, 2010

Hooray for the poor!
Time to get nasty I dont blame them. If I were Thai I would be in the thick and middle of this.

So now you elitists go ahead and bash me

My answer to you is simple and to the point ---->

Has any protest achieved anything, the yellows got into government by a court decision not by protesting and blocking the airport, all that did was cost a lot of people their jobs, and a lot of them come from the north, the reds have not achieved anything by burning buses, stopping international meetings, blocking the city, throwing blood around the city, this cost people jobs and the poor people are first to lose their jobs not the people with money.

if they put the money and energy they spend protesting into being a strong viable opposition they would achiev a lot more and not hurt the people they are trying to help as they do now, this is the same for both parties.

Yes! the PAD (yellow shirts) protest did work. Guess you have no been paying attention, the yellow shirts got exactly what they wanted which was to have the PM at the time step down. When they closed the airport for several days he had no choice, so they win!

Let me correct you . The PM/governement at the time left because of a court judgement not because of the yellows blocking the airport .

Which is incidentally why the PM then did not press his authority with the police , he had other more pressant problems to tackle

What the yelllows did is ONLY to discredit their own country by flouting the law and blocking honest travellers , thai and foreigners of travelling . Not to mention the billions lost to the thai economy. Its a shame ...

Edited March 20, 2010 by moresomekl

Jockey · March 20, 2010

I support the red shirts cause. They had their votes stolen from them, they want democracy and don't want the unelected Bangkok elite. They deserve a new election.

moresomekl · March 20, 2010

Of course you convenienly forget that had there been no coup or after it 2 elected pro rural PM kicked out on mere pretext , at least one of them , there would be no red shirts today in BKK in the first place .

You also forget that the yellow did pretty much the same , sabotaging tourism and costing Thailand billions of baths in lost revenues

The Yellow Shirts should have been dispersed from the airport by force if necessary. I live in Phuket and was here during that fiasco that severely damaged tourism in Thailand, especially in Phuket. But, this Red Shirt fiasco is happening now and should be dealt with. The airport occupation has long been over. For all the pro-Red Shirts on TV that actually live in Thailand, how can you say that these demonstrations are not harming the image of Thailand throughout the world? I am watching these people tie up traffic in Bangkok right now on television. Throwing the blood was definitely something that makes Thailand look like a country of ignorant, barbaric people. That cannot be denied.

Thailand has a well-educated, pro-Western PM who has offered to sit down with the Red Shirt leaders. They refuse to sit down and talk. They want the government overthrown. But who is there leader other than Thaksin, a convicted fugitive?

My information is that Abhisit said he will only discuss with the red shirts leaders once they disperse .

Its going nowhere like that ...

ericthai · March 20, 2010

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Ok

I was in Thailand and left for a business trip the day of the coup , or the Sunday just before , cant remember (the coup was on Monday)

I have a thai gf for twelve years and we have two kids

I do not contest that you know what happened or do not have your facts straight but so do I . Incidentally most of my farangs friends living in Thailand know a rat ass about thai politics , and at the time i did not have much interest in it either , so living in Thailand and knowing what happens are 2 different things . Anyway my interest changed when i saw the circus that this country and his people ,that i have come to love and respect, is going through .

Now back to the fact . Who is Thaksin ? Is he a crook ? Insofar as crook means breaking the law , no he is not a crook . He is far to smart for this and surrounded am sure by lawyers that are on the law even brighter then he is . He would not had lasted as PM had he done illegal things . Is he a dummy ? Not at all , quite the contrary he is very bright . What he is , is a ruthless businessman without moral or scruples that has exploited loopholes in the country legal an constitutional system to his advantage . Even in the sales of his shares in Shin Corp , he found loopholes in the country legal system to avoid him paying taxes . That is why he is morally bankrupt , if you are the PM of a country you dont avoid paying taxes even if there is ways of not doing so . Its a matter of morality and setting the example . That is only one example , there are many others of course , it would be too long to go thru each one of them

Yes the coup ,short of HM asking Thaksin to leave which would had been surely accepted by all thais , was probably the only way to get him to leave . But if a country constitution says the PM can be elected an unlimited number of time , who is to blame , the guy who get elected or the constitution . You see my point ? The coup was perhaps the only way but it was illegal . Then we had two PM pro Thaksin that were legally removed this time but on what many sees as mere technicalities to serve the agenda of "an elite" .

It is very contradictory that while most thais are afraid ,and as well they should be , of PM dictatorship , they have failed to establish a proper system of check and balances that ensure that dictatorship can not happen . Not limiting the number of time a PM can get elected was one of them . Having the legislative and executive branch not clearly separated is another . The parliament should vote the laws , censor the PM but absolutely not name the PM . That should be left to the people of Thailand thru direct elections , or HM or both . Also it should not be feasible for the parliament to change the constituton . The judiciary should also be totally independant of both the legislative and executive branch . Only then people with no moral like Thaksin can be prevented from keeping power for too long or becoming PM again if he returns . Right now is not fullproof , unless the PM host cooking shows that is ....

Now what happen is that the red shirts are organised under someone whose acts were not illegal but immoral , perceiving that their just cause for a better life , where nobody took attention of them until Thaksin, has been persecuted ... And they are very unhappy and frustrated about it . To them they have been robbed of their rights as thai citizen . And that is the reason for their protest . In all honesty i cant blame them .

Well let see how Abhisit can navigate thru all this ....

Wow, you still don't know what Taksin did was illegal? There have been several things he has done that was illegal, guess you don't know there is an arrest warrant out for him because he was found guilty of abuse of power and corruption too numerous to mention all of things he did so just to mention a few, selling of government land to his wife, forcing the Foreign Ministry to approve a loan to burma that would secure a contact with his telecom company, filing false reports of assets holdings to the NACC and the list goes on and on.

Ahh the loophole you are talking about is the sale of a company on the stock market where you dont have to pay taxes, well Mr. Taksin set this up himself and then 2-3 months later sold the company to the Singapore govt. Not paying taxes via the loophole is not what was illegal, it's the fact that a Thai company can not be 100% owned by a foreigner in which the sale of his company did this, also since this was a telecom company it was consider a national security issue. Of course people were not happy about him not paying taxes, but this is not what he is in trouble for, it's for the abuse of power and corruption.

You are saying not full proof, are you saying there is a chance for Taksin to return? Do you really believe he has any chance to return to Thailand? Taksin even knows that there is no way he can return as once he steps in Thailand he as a two year jail sentence waiting for him. The only way he could return would be if he got a pardon from the King, which the king has refused to do so or if he decides he wants to spend two years in jail.

As for the red shirts protesting, they are being paid by Taksin, everyone knows this. They are puppets with no leadership or direction. Do I feel for the poor farmers, yes I do especially after what Taksin has done for them everyone says how he helped them, yes he provided loans to them and now they are in even more debt of which now the government keeps giving new loans to pay off the loan they have and keep adding the interest onto the new loans. Very nice of him to put the poor farmers into even more debt. You are only starting to pay attention now on what is going on and taking the side of Taksin without knowing all the facts, you should investigate things before you take sides and claim that he is not a crook. How can you claim that you have your facts straight...

Tejas · March 20, 2010

says it all.

heard on thai news that tourist from europe and even other asean countries are avoiding LOS more and more...
soon LOS can add ER to their name...

what does it spell ?

It spells LOSER sir

That is in interesting chart.

The UN data on tourism show that Indonesia (probably Bali) and Malaysia are doing well, especially compared to Thailand.

Now you are showing that Singapore is doing better.

I am not sure what is going on in Cambodia, but I think many tourists to Cambodia first arrive in Thailand, then go on a visit to Cambodia, so the numbers are likely down.

Probably for Vietnam as well, but I do not know for sure.

The fact is that Thailand has been shooting itself in the foot for almost ten years with its xenophobic visa rules and "quality tourists" approach to tourists..........had they not done that, the numbers would not be down and/or the rate of growth would be much higher, however you want to look at it.

They have managed to upset virtually every income bracket of tourists.........expats (retired and potential).......investors. You name it.

atyclb · March 20, 2010

Many NE student graduate on time and are smart, motivated, good students. Many are from farming families. There are numerous professionals from N.E. and also have dark skin.

The racial thing is "wrong" although it is alive and well in Thailand. Thaksin is an educated and intelligent person and has accomplished positive things for thailand in addition to the negatives. I am unable to see him or any other red shirt leader in the same light as a Ghandi, MLK, King or Mandela/Biko.

Thaksins money and agenda will only propagate the circular thinking that many people are stuck in. I believe Thaksin is self serving and the rural poor are being used by him so he can get richer.

Circular thinking in Thailands rural poor is akin to welfare mentality in the USA. Why work/study when you can get your "checks for free and your money for nothing" It took welfare reforms to motivate many out of that pattern.

I don't see Thaksin telling anyone they must study, learn a trade or skill, do something better with their lives. Thaksin gives them a few baht when he needs their help or votes. He could be a true hero by building schools and hiring good teachers and sponsoring students to enroll.

When a society is more fair and just to all, everyone benefits, the rich get richer, and the poor can elevate themselves.

Don't you have a saying in English: "Throwing the baby out with the bath water" ?

I'd use, "Shooting the other foot."

Twice.

Way to go, getting sympathy from the middle class, who now can't go out with out extra hassle.

I know education is not up to par in the north, but hel_l after 12 years to get a Uni degree

maybe Jatupron went to a LOGIC class by accident?

Nah, he's never shown the slightest inclination towards logic,

only emotion, and that's only the negative ones.

OzMick · March 20, 2010

I support the red shirts cause. They had their votes stolen from them, they want democracy and don't want the unelected Bangkok elite. They deserve a new election.

jockey, you should know that if you put your money on a "juiced up" horse that gets disqualified, you've blown your dough. No use crying to the bookie, just wait for the next race and try an honest runner!

membob · March 20, 2010

Just been outside and thousands of Red Shirts travelling down the road.

Was all very friendly and many people smiling and shaking my hand.

I've been told if they ask you what you opinion is then you just say you hope everyone comes together and unites

granuaile · March 20, 2010

Just been outside and thousands of Red Shirts travelling down the road.
Was all very friendly and many people smiling and shaking my hand.

I've been told if they ask you what you opinion is then you just say you hope everyone comes together and unites

I was on Lat Phrao from around 11-3, and much the same as I saw. Took lots of photos... People were stopping and talking, seemed quite a few on the street supporting them. Some seemed indifferent, many seemed to just be watching, several waving flags.

I think they are wrong, I believe that Abhiset is doing a genuinely good job, and nothing would be gained from bringing Thaksin back. That would be a disaster. And it was obvious that Thaksin is what this is primarily about.

But the demonstrators seemed like good and decent people. They were friendly and polite, smiling and happy, some were toothless grannies, and some were cute tomboy types (I'm a woman who has a thing for tomboy types, good none of them beckoned me to join the rally 55555). You know if this movement were not all about Thaksin and had a coherent ideology, I could maybe support some elements as long as they renounced violence. I saw one truck as I was walking down my soi that said "Nonviolence" in large letters.

What I hope right now is that nothing happens. That shift their energies to the elections that will be held in a couple of years. I don't want to think about any of the happy, smiling people I saw today, or shook hands with, hurt, or to see any soldiers hurt. There was a small number of police, and there were some troops across the way from where I was, at the petrol station.

Lets hope. I don't think Abhiset should dissolve parliament or resign. I don't think Thaksin coming back is a good thing. But I think the government should court this base the way Thaksin did, woo them away from Thaksin. And perhaps as some have suggested, they should form a new political movement, purer than the politicians who now control it.

Granuaile

moresomekl · March 20, 2010

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Ok

I was in Thailand and left for a business trip the day of the coup , or the Sunday just before , cant remember (the coup was on Monday)

I have a thai gf for twelve years and we have two kids

I do not contest that you know what happened or do not have your facts straight but so do I . Incidentally most of my farangs friends living in Thailand know a rat ass about thai politics , and at the time i did not have much interest in it either , so living in Thailand and knowing what happens are 2 different things . Anyway my interest changed when i saw the circus that this country and his people ,that i have come to love and respect, is going through .

Now back to the fact . Who is Thaksin ? Is he a crook ? Insofar as crook means breaking the law , no he is not a crook . He is far to smart for this and surrounded am sure by lawyers that are on the law even brighter then he is . He would not had lasted as PM had he done illegal things . Is he a dummy ? Not at all , quite the contrary he is very bright . What he is , is a ruthless businessman without moral or scruples that has exploited loopholes in the country legal an constitutional system to his advantage . Even in the sales of his shares in Shin Corp , he found loopholes in the country legal system to avoid him paying taxes . That is why he is morally bankrupt , if you are the PM of a country you dont avoid paying taxes even if there is ways of not doing so . Its a matter of morality and setting the example . That is only one example , there are many others of course , it would be too long to go thru each one of them

Yes the coup ,short of HM asking Thaksin to leave which would had been surely accepted by all thais , was probably the only way to get him to leave . But if a country constitution says the PM can be elected an unlimited number of time , who is to blame , the guy who get elected or the constitution . You see my point ? The coup was perhaps the only way but it was illegal . Then we had two PM pro Thaksin that were legally removed this time but on what many sees as mere technicalities to serve the agenda of "an elite" .

It is very contradictory that while most thais are afraid ,and as well they should be , of PM dictatorship , they have failed to establish a proper system of check and balances that ensure that dictatorship can not happen . Not limiting the number of time a PM can get elected was one of them . Having the legislative and executive branch not clearly separated is another . The parliament should vote the laws , censor the PM but absolutely not name the PM . That should be left to the people of Thailand thru direct elections , or HM or both . Also it should not be feasible for the parliament to change the constituton . The judiciary should also be totally independant of both the legislative and executive branch . Only then people with no moral like Thaksin can be prevented from keeping power for too long or becoming PM again if he returns . Right now is not fullproof , unless the PM host cooking shows that is ....

Now what happen is that the red shirts are organised under someone whose acts were not illegal but immoral , perceiving that their just cause for a better life , where nobody took attention of them until Thaksin, has been persecuted ... And they are very unhappy and frustrated about it . To them they have been robbed of their rights as thai citizen . And that is the reason for their protest . In all honesty i cant blame them .

Well let see how Abhisit can navigate thru all this ....

Wow, you still don't know what Taksin did was illegal? There have been several things he has done that was illegal, guess you don't know there is an arrest warrant out for him because he was found guilty of abuse of power and corruption too numerous to mention all of things he did so just to mention a few, selling of government land to his wife, forcing the Foreign Ministry to approve a loan to burma that would secure a contact with his telecom company, filing false reports of assets holdings to the NACC and the list goes on and on.

Ahh the loophole you are talking about is the sale of a company on the stock market where you dont have to pay taxes, well Mr. Taksin set this up himself and then 2-3 months later sold the company to the Singapore govt. Not paying taxes via the loophole is not what was illegal, it's the fact that a Thai company can not be 100% owned by a foreigner in which the sale of his company did this, also since this was a telecom company it was consider a national security issue. Of course people were not happy about him not paying taxes, but this is not what he is in trouble for, it's for the abuse of power and corruption.

You are saying not full proof, are you saying there is a chance for Taksin to return? Do you really believe he has any chance to return to Thailand? Taksin even knows that there is no way he can return as once he steps in Thailand he as a two year jail sentence waiting for him. The only way he could return would be if he got a pardon from the King, which the king has refused to do so or if he decides he wants to spend two years in jail.

As for the red shirts protesting, they are being paid by Taksin, everyone knows this. They are puppets with no leadership or direction. Do I feel for the poor farmers, yes I do especially after what Taksin has done for them everyone says how he helped them, yes he provided loans to them and now they are in even more debt of which now the government keeps giving new loans to pay off the loan they have and keep adding the interest onto the new loans. Very nice of him to put the poor farmers into even more debt. You are only starting to pay attention now on what is going on and taking the side of Taksin without knowing all the facts, you should investigate things before you take sides and claim that he is not a crook. How can you claim that you have your facts straight...

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Again you read between the lines and conclude that anyone dont thinking the way you do dont have his facts straight .

a) I know fully well that there is a warrant of arrest for Thaksin . I also know that the things he did were done in such a way as to that judgement against him to be chalengeable in a court of law to say the least , when he did it . If they were outright illegal then how to you explain that Interpol of which Thailand is a signatory has not issued an international warrant of arrest ?

I am perfectly aware of the other facts , sales of land to his wife , the Burma deal and his sales of ShinCorp shares in which he did not own 100% by the way . Again it was done in very clever way , it would most probably be chalengeable ina court of law . And I mentioned those under my sentence "there are many other examples " if you had taken the time to read properly , which obviously you did not . For your information restricting the sales of shares of a thai company to whomever foreign or domestic party has been tried under that one year serving PM the retired general that came after the coup , with the effect that foreign investment in Thailand dropped like a stone at that time , which is why Thaksin party came inpower again

c) I am taking the side of Thaksin ? Again you cant read properly , seriously you need a pair of glasses or else you suffer of delusion . Where did i take his side ? I said he is morally bankrupt , is that taking his side ? I also said that the constitution must be amended to prevent abuse of power like he did , just in case . Corruption is another thing but on that he is by far not the first one nor the last , look recently at the case at the health ministry just to keep you informed .

d) You believe what you want about the red shirts beeing his puppets , again because they dont think the way you do . My gf who is from Issan told me he did some good things , and on current protest he paid the bill because those are poor people , he did it for his own interest of course . Yet most of them have or will distance themselves from Thaksin and the trend is on the move as they become self conscious of the power they have which does not need Thaksin , new leaders will emerge , just be patient . Of course in your opinion it would have been better to do nothing for them and continue business as usual . They have genuine claims to more justice and more opportunities in their life . Which make me think that you have'nt investigated properly , please get the facts straight yourself and

stop thinking with your balls , think more with your head for a change . Good day .

Edited March 20, 2010 by moresomekl

moresomekl · March 20, 2010

I support the red shirts cause. They had their votes stolen from them, they want democracy and don't want the unelected Bangkok elite. They deserve a new election.

jockey, you should know that if you put your money on a "juiced up" horse that gets disqualified, you've blown your dough. No use crying to the bookie, just wait for the next race and try an honest runner!

Dont confuse the horse and its one time owner

Chris Lawrence · March 20, 2010

It sounds as though the Govt is pushing for a fight to start so they can go in and quell the disturbance? This way they won't look bad.
The Red shirts are beimg portrayed as protestors but have not breached the peace. However the Govt. appears to want to portray them as irresponsible. Up to date I haven't seen reports of this; oh the blood letting was a bit gross, but appears to be symbolic jesture.

Sounds more radical from reading TV and the comments of some posters.

"protestors have not breached the peace" Yeah right. And you, sir, are clearly not in Bangkok so please just keep to your television at home! You might even learn something. Maybe.

TV is Thai Visa? I just thouhgt I would help you to learn something?

People have the right to protest even in Bangkok. Not everyone live's in Bangkok, so there is a reliance on balanced reporting; u don't get this stuck infront of a Television. Hard to get any other medium other than the Nation on TV.

So what other forms of reporting would you suggest?

Chris Lawrence · March 20, 2010

I support the red shirts cause. They had their votes stolen from them, they want democracy and don't want the unelected Bangkok elite. They deserve a new election.

jockey, you should know that if you put your money on a "juiced up" horse that gets disqualified, you've blown your dough. No use crying to the bookie, just wait for the next race and try an honest runner!

Dont confuse the horse and its one time owner

moresomekl · March 20, 2010

I support the red shirts cause. They had their votes stolen from them, they want democracy and don't want the unelected Bangkok elite. They deserve a new election.

jockey, you should know that if you put your money on a "juiced up" horse that gets disqualified, you've blown your dough. No use crying to the bookie, just wait for the next race and try an honest runner!

Dont confuse the horse and its one time owner

Why have the poor chosen a morally compromised billionaire to be the leader of their movement? What have we done as a nation to cause these people from the rural provinces so much pain and suffering that they need to march on the capital to demand that their voices be heard? And have these people in the past been treated with the respect and fairness that all human beings deserve?

ericthai · March 21, 2010