My Girlfriends New Tattoo

[StreetCowboy]

I'm a farang, female with a Thai boyfriend.

I wouldn't get a tattoo without telling him and I do think it's a bit rude. Sure it's up to her what she wants to do but she could have at least discussed it with you or told you that she was going to do it, or something.

I know my boyfriend doesn't like tattoos on girls so I wouldn't get one although it's hard to be objective about that because I don't like them anyway.

I think they do look cheap on girls, sorry, it's just my opinion. I think they need to be somewhere really discreet and sometimes they can look nice.

Dee

Would you ask your employer?

SC

[StreetCowboy]

A hilarious outlook on things by the OP, absolutely hilarious..

I'm so glad there are people like that in teh World cos it gives the rest of us a chance at success..

You think that's funny you should read his other topics, I like the virgin one

He turned out to be a paper hat in that one too

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Is paper hat a euphemism for siamese cat? SC

[StreetCowboy]

The discussion really isn't about tatoos at all. It's about RESPECT for your partner's ideas and wishes. That is what Mark is saying. I also suspect that Mark is looking for an excuse to end the relationship. Whether this is true or not only Mark knows for sure. The woman had a tatoo when he first met her. Why was it not a concern then?

If your partner knows you don't like something (whatever it is) and goes ahead and does it anyway, then that is showing disrespect for your wishes. Now, just WHY a person does that is the REAL crux of the matter. Maybe Mark IS a control freak and his lady friend is rebelling at that. None of us know that for sure, so we can only make assumptions... which may be false.

Jingthing, Sarasbloke, Richard Smith and Bangkokrick all made valid points, as did some others.

Personally, I don't like tatoos or body jewelry. I think it demeans a beautiful body. But, I respect other's wishes to do what they want with their own bodies. Would I CHOOSE NOT to live with a lovely lady because she has tatoos or body jewelry? No, providing everything else about her I liked.

I don't give a hoot what others think of me or whomever I wish to be with. If they make false assumptions about someone they don't even know then that is THEIR problem and they are too judgemental, hypocritical and biggoted to be worth my time.

Mark has a valid point, but only he and his girlfriend can sort out the problems they have between them. Frankly, I think it is time for both of them to move on. I'm quite sure that Mark's lady friend has some valid points as well. It's inidicative by her lack of respect for Mark's wishes.

There is no question how the biggoted Thai society feels about tatoos. Mainstream Thai society has very narrow guidelines of what is proper and what is not. Step outside that at your own peril and accept the consequeces.

I think you misunderstand the situation, Ian. The lady is his domestic help, employed to provide assistance around the home with the duties that a wife would normally perform. Think of it as a battle freedom by the working class - I think a tattoo is better than taking to the streets and firing grenades at BTS stations - the lady is saying that although you may pay my salary, you don't own me, and although I have to perform unpleasant duties, there is a limit to how far you can push me.

SC

[Soutpeel]

A hilarious outlook on things by the OP, absolutely hilarious..

I'm so glad there are people like that in teh World cos it gives the rest of us a chance at success..

You think that's funny you should read his other topics, I like the virgin one

He turned out to be a paper hat in that one too

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Is paper hat a euphemism for siamese cat? SC

It's actually a combination of two chocolate bars

..good one

[MrJohnson]

She chooses to be with you......but leads a life of her own too, and makes a few of her own choices.....which you should respect

A tattoo does not make her anything other than a girl who wanted to have a tattoo....she may occasionally be stereotyped, fortunately only by the ignorant

You may be correct. But I think the majority in Thailand over the age of 40 feel the same about big tattoos. The people I work with are mostly over 40 and Thai.

None of this is unknown to her. She knew the problems she would be creating.

MarkMark - you sound a bit thin-skinned (pun intended)

[nidge]

If you don't like tattoos, don't get involved with a girl that already has some. If you don't like a girl that thinks for herself, don't expect a balanced relationship unless, of course, you also cannot think for yourself.

One day last November my wife went shopping alone. She never told my what she was shopping for and it left me curious. When she came home she was very excited and rushed me upstairs to show me a tattoo she had done on her lower back. (My name, with a wing either side). She did this without my knowledge or my permission. How dare she do what she wants with her own body! She now has 2 tattoos and is planning more in the future. She doesn't care what half of the posters on this thread think about tattoos because she likes them and I like them. I don't care what you think about her, (or me for that matter). If you saw her at work or out shopping you would have no idea she had any tattoos. She looks like a normal Thai girl. Many people think tattoos make a girl look like a bargirl, ever heard this quote....

My mother said it was simple to keep a man, you must be a maid in the living room, a cook in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom.

My wife is a great cook, keeps the house clean and when we are in the mood she looks like a bargirl in the bedroom. I didn't marry a sweet innocent virgin, a trophy or a toy, I married a real woman.

A point to ponder, if a girl with a tattoo looks like a bargirl, what does a bargirl without a tattoo look like?

[Huey]

A Tattoo dose not a hoe make. And dude after all she had Tattoos when you met her, why try and make her something that she is not? She should dump you.

[StreetCowboy]

A Tattoo dose not a hoe make. And dude after all she had Tattoos when you met her, why try and make her something that she is not? She should dump you.

He knows she's a whore; that's whjat he employs her for; and he knows his friends and colleagues know; that's why he leaves her at home for works dos. What he's worried about is the opinion of complete strangers. Presumably, when she's out on her own, since when she's with him, they'll know anyway. Stranger's thoughts "If she had a tattoo, she could up her rate by at least 10%"

I think his concern is that if she carries on adding to her market value, she'll get a better offer when she's out on her own.

Mark: Ask her to wear a burkha; easy solution, maintains her freedom and dignity - everyone's happy!

SC

[jdinasia]

Mark, step into the 21st century! Today, a tatoo is considered an artistic addition to the body. I don't think the general public associates a tatoo with a "working" lady of the evening. I also think you're not being fair to your gf if you make her cover up her tatoos every time you go out. Stop being so self centered and start enjoying her tatoos.

Do you live in Thailand or are you just talking out of your butt? The ENTIRE country associates tattoos with HOOKERS. Learn about where you live before you embarass yourself again

Not even close to being either factual OR based on anything other than your flawed opinion.

[nidge]

Mark, step into the 21st century! Today, a tatoo is considered an artistic addition to the body. I don't think the general public associates a tatoo with a "working" lady of the evening. I also think you're not being fair to your gf if you make her cover up her tatoos every time you go out. Stop being so self centered and start enjoying her tatoos.

Do you live in Thailand or are you just talking out of your butt? The ENTIRE country associates tattoos with HOOKERS. Learn about where you live before you embarass yourself again

Not even close to being either factual OR based on anything other than your flawed opinion.

Almost every major shopping mall, (if not all), has a tattooist. All you need to do is spend one hour on a weekend looking at the sort of person that goes in to see what the "ENTIRE country" thinks. I have spent many hours in various tattoo studios and a majority of the customers are university girls. I have yet to see a girl that I would consider to look like a bar girl in a tattoo studio. Maybe it's because I don't get tattooed near Nana or Patpong or maybe it that bargirls have to get a degree before they can get a job.

[jdinasia]

People like me still discriminate against visible tattoos because of the psychological characteristics of those that have them.

You just can't beat a tattoo thread

I love when people make statements about their personal prejudices as if they are in fact based on anything but a knee-jerk reaction to a stereotype. Then again ... the psychological characteristics of people that do that .....

[Chaimai]

Mark, step into the 21st century! Today, a tatoo is considered an artistic addition to the body. I don't think the general public associates a tatoo with a "working" lady of the evening. I also think you're not being fair to your gf if you make her cover up her tatoos every time you go out. Stop being so self centered and start enjoying her tatoos.

Do you live in Thailand or are you just talking out of your butt? The ENTIRE country associates tattoos with HOOKERS. Learn about where you live before you embarass yourself again

I tend to agree with this statement.

Whilst I respect the right of any individual, to choose whether to have a tattoo, they must accept that by having one they leave themselves open to deep rooted paradigms that associate tatoos with 'bad girls'.

[phutoie2]

Tattoo's, oh you lucky sod, you could be married to a gambling one - like me!

Edited April 26, 2010 by phutoie2

[canuckamuck]

The only body modifications I like to see are: diet, exercise, dental hygiene and tasteful plastic surgery.

[MrWiggle]

I have a tattoo on my penis, it is a 1:1 drawing of a 12 inch ruler.

Does this make me a sex worker ??

[nidge]

I have a tattoo on my penis, it is a 1:1 drawing of a 12 inch ruler.

Does this make me a sex worker ??

No, but i think somethings afoot.

[IanForbes]

Sure glad I stay single. I never have these problems. And, my friends who actually know and like me, also understand me. I couldn't give a tinkers D about the bigots.

[MrWiggle]

The only body modifications I like to see are: diet, exercise, dental hygiene and tasteful plastic surgery.

Does that include breast enlargements and labia reductions ?

[canuckamuck]

The only body modifications I like to see are: diet, exercise, dental hygiene and tasteful plastic surgery.

Does that include breast enlargements and labia reductions ?

your question can only be answered on a case by case basis.

[Loz]

Focus people, focus!

He's told us that his girlfriend used to be his maid. Maybe still is his maid. You don't take the maid for a ride on the company jet when the other board members are watching.

If you don't know that she must remain your dirty little secret, you really shouldn't be messing around with her.

If you were dating the Admiral's Daughter and she got a tattoo then I would say you had a problem, but I dare say she would have a bigger problem with her dad. Sounds like that would be the better girl for you to date. More compatible. Admirals Daughters seldom have unsightly tats. This information was brought to you by Farangipedia: The Expat site where everything is true until proven utter tripe!

[StreetCowboy]

Focus people, focus!

He's told us that his girlfriend used to be his maid. Maybe still is his maid. You don't take the maid for a ride on the company jet when the other board members are watching.

If you don't know that she must remain your dirty little secret, you really shouldn't be messing around with her.

If you were dating the Admiral's Daughter and she got a tattoo then I would say you had a problem, but I dare say she would have a bigger problem with her dad. Sounds like that would be the better girl for you to date. More compatible. Admirals Daughters seldom have unsightly tats. This information was brought to you by Farangipedia: The Expat site where everything is true until proven utter tripe!

Do you prefer tripe or haggis?

SC

[Berkshire]

Do some of you guys actually believe the PC drivel that you're shoveling? Freedom of choice? Respect? Please. Let's face it, in this day and age, the way you present yourself sure as heck has a universal meaning. I'm sure many of the folks here would have preconceived notions about a guy covered in tattoos. Or how about a woman who has a nose ring and assorted other jewelry on her face? Or how about a woman who smokes? Or one who dresses like a slut? I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying I agree with it. But the OP has a point. Thai women with tattoos (unless fashionably or discreetly presented) are assumed to be bargirls. And no amount of PC ranting is going to change the minds of the majority of people in this country (and overseas as well).

[TAWP]

Find a new girl who doesn't have tattoos if that's your preference.

This thread is getting absurd, does anybody choose a partner based on weight, height, tattoos, nationality, whatever?

Pitiful.

Yes, we do.

Not all of us have to 'settle for the breadcrumbs'.

[Brocher]

In this town and I suspect most smaller Thai cities women with large noticeable tattoos work in the entertainment industry. My feelings are, since she knew I didn't like tattoos her getting another one was a slap in my face and a sign that my feelings are going to be ignored from here on out.

I see you're under fire from the 'tattoo brigade'. Personally I dislike tattoos as well - ok for showbiz people, bar tarts and young rebels(though many regret it in later years) but how many 'respectable' people do you see with them. How many doctors or nurses, bank and office workers etc have them?

Anyway, the point is that it definitely was a sign of her disregard for your feelings. She already had a couple of the bloody things but she has to go and get more, knowing full well you don't want her to. To me she's showing how little she values your opinion and has no respect for you.

Next time look for one who doesn't like tattoos - believe me there are plenty around outside of 'places of entertainment'.

[Daren]

In this town and I suspect most smaller Thai cities women with large noticeable tattoos work in the entertainment industry. My feelings are, since she knew I didn't like tattoos her getting another one was a slap in my face and a sign that my feelings are going to be ignored from here on out.

I see you're under fire from the 'tattoo brigade'. Personally I dislike tattoos as well - ok for showbiz people, bar tarts and young rebels(though many regret it in later years) but how many 'respectable' people do you see with them. How many doctors or nurses, bank and office workers etc have them?

Anyway, the point is that it definitely was a sign of her disregard for your feelings. She already had a couple of the bloody things but she has to go and get more, knowing full well you don't want her to. To me she's showing how little she values your opinion and has no respect for you.

Next time look for one who doesn't like tattoos - believe me there are plenty around outside of 'places of entertainment'.

How could you possibly know how many tattoos you doctor, lawyer, bank employee and so-on has - they all wear long sleeves. It's ridiculous to assume that the people you mentioned don't have tattoos just because you haven't seen them.

It's fine not to like tattoos, but trying to draw correlations between getting ink done and social status, education or personality is absolutely ridiculous.

[FarAwayBen]

Find a new girl who doesn't have tattoos if that's your preference.

This thread is getting absurd, does anybody choose a partner based on weight, height, tattoos, nationality, whatever?

Pitiful.

Yes, we do.

Not all of us have to 'settle for the breadcrumbs'.

thank God for Thailand

[jdinasia]

The difference between a tattooed person and a person without tattoos, is that a tattooed person doesn't care if you don't have tattoos.

My Dr (a specialist) has 2 tattoos, 3 of my Thai coworkers (all women with MA degrees or above) have tattoos, the boss (66 year old Thai woman) doesn't have a tattoo but doesn't care that people have them, 4 of our nurses have tattoos. In fact, in our rather conservative company more people have a tattoo than don't. This being Thailand and according to people that apparently don't have a clue would mean that we are all hookers

[phutoie2]

It's fine not to like tattoos, but trying to draw correlations between getting ink done and social status, education or personality is absolutely ridiculous.

Tattoo's historically have been associated with a certain class of society!, like it or not.

Strewth I would be a bit stunned if my GP, Physician,Bank manager, solicitor, dentist, Clergy etc were decorated with "Love & Hate", Daggers, Swans,Spiders webs etc.

Plus I spent over 25 years in the ranks and I did not see many of our Officer class with Tats, especially the Polo pony lot! from Windsor

Edited April 26, 2010 by phutoie2

[chuang]

Mark are you a farang....usually Asians are more fussy about tattoos...

[Chaimai]

It's fine not to like tattoos, but trying to draw correlations between getting ink done and social status, education or personality is absolutely ridiculous.

Tattoo's historically have been associated with a certain class of society!, like it or not.

Strewth I would be a bit stunned if my GP, Physician,Bank manager, solicitor, dentist, Clergy etc were decorated with "Love & Hate", Daggers, Swans,Spiders webs etc.

Plus I spent over 25 years in the ranks and I did not see many of our Officer class with Tats, especially the Polo pony lot! from Windsor

When I was a bank manager I remember being only one or two drinks away from having a rose tatooed on my shoulder.

I doubt many of my clients would have ever seen it !

My daughter in the UK has just had a tatoo done. She is about to go off to university and wanted to have something tatooed. She understood that a future employer may not be enamoured by an obviously visual tatoo so she had a small anchor tatoo on her ankle.

I do remember a Brazilian girl in Spain with the flattest of stomachs that had an eagle tatooed on it. It looked great and, WOW, what a girl.

Yes, she looked like a bar girl - but then that is exactly what I had paid for .

Edited April 26, 2010 by Chaimai