Dog Cull Bangrak?

[Gatorade]

My Mother had a little stray dog which had adopted her

and generally hung around the house. She has been missing for the

last 4 days and so have all the other dogs in the neighborhood.

Driving the whole length of BangRak and including the Market and Plai Lam temple

I have not seen one dog today.

If there has been a cull it was certainly carried out in secrecy.

This is one aspect about Thailand which I find totally abhorrent and cruel.

If you have a wandering dog, best to keep an eye on it!

[smokie36]

Lots of dogs seem to go missing in Bangrak especially....very sad.

[torchie]

well, chicken is getting expensive. . so the next option is . . .

[mufcsamui]

It may be very sad but stray dogs are a nuisance apart from chasing motorbikes and causing accidents and injury they are scavengers. If you like a stray dog dont let it adopt you,you adopt it, train it and look after it.

[Tropicalevo]

Now you mention it - I have not seen many dogs on the street lately.

However, not all are being culled. I know of two families that have adopted dogs in the last week or two - and they keep them in their garden/house

[Gatorade]

well, chicken is getting expensive. . so the next option is . . .

In reality, I'm not sure that you would find your 'amusing' quip to your taste as the preferred method of killing them is to feed them rat poison,

which causes massive internal bleeding and a slow painful,lingering death.

[koheesti]

well, chicken is getting expensive. . so the next option is . . .

In reality, I'm not sure that you would find your 'amusing' quip to your taste as the preferred method of killing them is to feed them rat poison,

which causes massive internal bleeding and a slow painful,lingering death.

How do "they" do that in secrecy? To poison them you'd have to feed them then follow them and wait for them to die then carry them off. If someone is culling the dogs they probably round them up at night.

[carmine]

Has anyone any proof that there has been a cull. That is, any proof whatsoever, other than just hearsay?

[Gatorade]

Has anyone any proof that there has been a cull. That is, any proof whatsoever, other than just hearsay?

Non-whatsoever. As per the original post I just stated a total lack of mutts on the street including one known to me well.

Unless they've all gone to ground it could be indicative of a cull. Which is hardly unknown around here.

[BottleBlonde]

This is very worrying!!! I have just driven to Bang Rak beach and there is a distinct lack of dogs around. I have called Dr Somsak to see if he is aware of anything or had any poisoned animals brought to him today from that area, but no. He has also checked with a friend who lives near to the temple and she too has not heard anything. However something doesn't seem quite right down there. I have sent a message to a dog rescue contact and await her reply. I am very much hoping that this is all about nothing. If a deliberate cull had taken place you would expect someone to have seen at least 1 dead dog. I also can't imagine they would take the time nor have the initiative to actually catch the local dogs, take them away and then do the dirty deed, but who knows?

[Gatorade]

This is very worrying!!! I have just driven to Bang Rak beach and there is a distinct lack of dogs around. I have called Dr Somsak to see if he is aware of anything or had any poisoned animals brought to him today from that area, but no. He has also checked with a friend who lives near to the temple and she too has not heard anything. However something doesn't seem quite right down there. I have sent a message to a dog rescue contact and await her reply. I am very much hoping that this is all about nothing. If a deliberate cull had taken place you would expect someone to have seen at least 1 dead dog. I also can't imagine they would take the time nor have the initiative to actually catch the local dogs, take them away and then do the dirty deed, but who knows?

It is very strange. Our dog in question always arrives for afternoon nosh and usually a couple of her friends arrive afterwards.

No sign of any of them for 4 days and the other neighborhood dogs have also gone. Yes, I would have expected to see some

trace, particularly if poisoned.

I'm sure someone would have seen something and I really hope that it is all about nothing but I could not see

any dogs when I looked.

[WarpSpeed]

Not cruel at all, most are exported to Cambodia and Vietnam for food so just part of the food chain, better that then a meaningless suffrage existence on the streets. Sorry for your friends loss though if that's what happened as you say best keep your dogs under control as it should be anyway.. You're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy realty is they are just part of the life cycle, like someone else said, substitute chickens..

Edited June 5, 2010 by WarpSpeed

[itishothere]

This is going to sound dumb perhaps, but has the weather anything to do with it?

I mean, over the last few days at the beach I go to in Choeng Mon, there has been a really strong wind coming in off the sea - which is most unusual as it is so often calm where I go. (And pleasant I may add!)

No, I am not saying the wind has blown them all away , but maybe they are hiding out of the way somewhere? Do dogs dislike this wind - or this change in weather?

Hmmm ... yes it does sound dumb doesn't it?

[WarpSpeed]

It may be very sad but stray dogs are a nuisance apart from chasing motorbikes and causing accidents and injury they are scavengers. If you like a stray dog dont let it adopt you,you adopt it, train it and look after it.

Absolutely!! I wish someone would come around and collect the strays in our neighborhood but then a new pack would just move in. I'm a dog lover..........Actually an animal lover, but these soi dogs are a potentially dangerous nuisance to personal pets and family and not pets themselves just like the feral cats but I believe even the cats have a better purpose as they keep the rat and mice population down..

Edited June 5, 2010 by WarpSpeed

[smokie36]

Not cruel at all, most are exported to Cambodia and Vietnam for food so just part of the food chain, better that then a meaningless suffrage existence on the streets. Sorry for your friends loss though if that's what happened as you say best keep your dogs under control as it should be anyway.. You're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy

Getting away from the rights and wrongs of such a cull it would be better to let people know before carrying this out so they can ensure their dogs are indoors while this happens.

No it aint Kansas its Buddhist Thailand.

[WarpSpeed]

Not cruel at all, most are exported to Cambodia and Vietnam for food so just part of the food chain, better that then a meaningless suffrage existence on the streets. Sorry for your friends loss though if that's what happened as you say best keep your dogs under control as it should be anyway.. You're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy

Getting away from the rights and wrongs of such a cull it would be better to let people know before carrying this out so they can ensure their dogs are indoors while this happens.

No it aint Kansas its Buddhist Thailand.

Yeah and do you have any idea where dogs reign on that Buddist totem pole of life??If it were anywhere near the top the question of soi dogs would be a moot point..

Dogs should be contained within their property anyway and not a neighborhood nuisance, problem solved.. JFYI he said she was just feeding the stray and not really took ownership as if she had it would have not been subjected to the possibility of being mistaken for a soi dog.. Ces't la vie..

It's always irresponsible and selfish pet owners imposing their pets on other people who end up whinging when someone deals with it on their own, simple answer, be a considerate and responsible pet owner end of story...

Edited June 5, 2010 by WarpSpeed

[BigC]

Lots of dogs seem to go missing in Bangrak especially....very sad.

there is allot of muslims there in the market.

thought what ii used to do was go to tescos and print the name and telephone number which is normally used for key rings. then i attatch it to the dogs collar.

[smokie36]

Lots of dogs seem to go missing in Bangrak especially....very sad.

there is allot of muslims there in the market.

thought what ii used to do was go to tescos and print the name and telephone number which is normally used for key rings. then i attatch it to the dogs collar.

Good idea but any dog with a collar shouldn't really be disappearing.

[smokie36]

This is going to sound dumb perhaps, but has the weather anything to do with it?

I mean, over the last few days at the beach I go to in Choeng Mon, there has been a really strong wind coming in off the sea - which is most unusual as it is so often calm where I go. (And pleasant I may add!)

No, I am not saying the wind has blown them all away , but maybe they are hiding out of the way somewhere? Do dogs dislike this wind - or this change in weather?

Hmmm ... yes it does sound dumb doesn't it?

Wind blowing eh? You must be high as a kite!

[BigC]

This is going to sound dumb perhaps, but has the weather anything to do with it?

I mean, over the last few days at the beach I go to in Choeng Mon, there has been a really strong wind coming in off the sea - which is most unusual as it is so often calm where I go. (And pleasant I may add!)

No, I am not saying the wind has blown them all away , but maybe they are hiding out of the way somewhere? Do dogs dislike this wind - or this change in weather?

Hmmm ... yes it does sound dumb doesn't it?

Wind blowing eh? You must be high as a kite!

must be where my money has gone. just blown it

[MattCinderey]

Anyone that poisons dogs in my opinion are scum. If caught they should be fed the poison themselves.

Giving them meat tainted with rat poison is terrible, dying from massive hemorrhaging is awful.

My dogs are locked in their cages over night. I'm in the process of training them not to pick up food from the floor.

Matt.

[screamingeagle]

Maybe all the dogs have been abducted by aliens...... I wish they would abduct all the stray dogs soi too. They chase motorbikes and cause countless accidents. I've been bitten badly on the leg and come off twice. Those dogs involved in causing me grief didn't see another day...

[Gulfsailor]

Maybe all the dogs have been abducted by aliens...... I wish they would abduct all the stray dogs soi too. They chase motorbikes and cause countless accidents. I've been bitten badly on the leg and come off twice. Those dogs involved in causing me grief didn't see another day...

Maybe some kind of bikes ( some sounding more like a helicopter...) attract more dogs than others....

[carmine]

QUOTE (carmine @ 2010-06-05 15:40:36) Has anyone any proof that there has been a cull. That is, any proof whatsoever, other than just hearsay?

Non-whatsoever. As per the original post I just stated a total lack of mutts on the street including one known to me well.

Unless they've all gone to ground it could be indicative of a cull. Which is hardly unknown around here.

I was told today by a Thai friend that there has been a cull in Bangrak and the airport road.

Two strays that used to hang around where i live have'nt been seen for four or five days.

[screamingeagle]

Maybe all the dogs have been abducted by aliens...... I wish they would abduct all the stray dogs soi too. They chase motorbikes and cause countless accidents. I've been bitten badly on the leg and come off twice. Those dogs involved in causing me grief didn't see another day...

Maybe some kind of bikes ( some sounding more like a helicopter...) attract more dogs than others....

I think you're right. I don't get so much bother when I'm on my Phantom.

[sbk]

Not cruel at all, most are exported to Cambodia and Vietnam for food so just part of the food chain, better that then a meaningless suffrage existence on the streets. Sorry for your friends loss though if that's what happened as you say best keep your dogs under control as it should be anyway.. You're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy realty is they are just part of the life cycle, like someone else said, substitute chickens..

This is incorrect. The dogs are not exported for food. They are poisoned. They die slowly and rather painfully. And while they may be a nuisance, having watched two of my neighbor's dogs die on my doorstep (and yes they had collars, the poison is spread indiscriminately) it is not a death I would wish on any creature, regardless of how annoying I may find them.

[somtampet]

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In reality, I'm not sure that you would find your 'amusing' quip to your taste as the preferred method of killing them is to feed them rat poison,

which causes massive internal bleeding and a slow painful,lingering death.

I agree with culling or destroying a vicious dog,whether pet of soi dog.However i also agree that poison is a horrific death for a dog,and should be a better,more humane way.A friend of mine was going crazy,as his son was bitten by a long term soi dog,and wanted to poison it.I said please dont kill it like that,if you want to kill the thing,do it less painless,like a long sharp thin knife to the throat,or a swift smack with a sharp machette to the neck.

[Gatorade]

Not cruel at all, most are exported to Cambodia and Vietnam for food so just part of the food chain, better that then a meaningless suffrage existence on the streets. Sorry for your friends loss though if that's what happened as you say best keep your dogs under control as it should be anyway.. You're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy realty is they are just part of the life cycle, like someone else said, substitute chickens..

This is incorrect. The dogs are not exported for food. They are poisoned. They die slowly and rather painfully. And while they may be a nuisance, having watched two of my neighbor's dogs die on my doorstep (and yes they had collars, the poison is spread indiscriminately) it is not a death I would wish on any creature, regardless of how annoying I may find them.

Well said SBK. Unfortunately many of those posting here have not witnessed the incredible suffering of these animals. It also seems to be forgotten that many of these "Soi dogs" started out as pets and have been put on the street when their owners move on or go back to Kansas.

[WarpSpeed]

Not cruel at all, most are exported to Cambodia and Vietnam for food so just part of the food chain, better that then a meaningless suffrage existence on the streets. Sorry for your friends loss though if that's what happened as you say best keep your dogs under control as it should be anyway.. You're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy realty is they are just part of the life cycle, like someone else said, substitute chickens..

This is incorrect. The dogs are not exported for food. They are poisoned. They die slowly and rather painfully. And while they may be a nuisance, having watched two of my neighbor's dogs die on my doorstep (and yes they had collars, the poison is spread indiscriminately) it is not a death I would wish on any creature, regardless of how annoying I may find them.

Sorry to be contrary but they most certainly do trap and sell them for food and if you haven't seen it done in this case or any other for that matter you're making an ill informed blanket statement and assumption.. Lets try to use some logic shall we instead of knee jerk emotional responses?? If they were poisoned and we all know that poison doesn't work the same on every living being especially where size is concerned it stands to reason that some of the dogs would still be around albeit sick and weak as would bodies potentially as I can't imagine that it could possibly planned so well as to be able to suddenly gather them up and dispose of them on demand as that would require someone standing around waiting fro them to knock off one by one..

You tell me which sounds more plausible of those 2 scenarios? Being trapped and gathered en mass and removed or poisoned and removed one dead body at a time with no way of knowing the length of time or location of effective death between animals??

[sbk]

Ah yes, the old attack maneuvre. Nice try anyway. Really, they trap dogs on Samui and pay the ferry fee to take them to the mainland and then pay to drive them up to Isaan or wherever. Really? You've seen trucks full of howling dogs on the car ferry then have you? Seems extremely cost ineffective to me considering the abundance of dogs much closer to the markets where they are consumed.

And considering that I have seen it with my own eyes. yes. They drive around and poison the dogs in the middle of the night. Early morning the garbage truck comes round and picks up the dead bodies. Only reason I know about my neighbors dog is because he managed to make it down the hill to our place.

But really, please explain to me the feasibility of someone paying to transport dogs all the way from Samui to Cambodia. That would be an interesting business model indeed.