Windows 7 Sucks

[skippybangkok]

Computer Hung today, did hard reset as wud be the case w XP, and can't open my computer now...... And it can't restore either

[webfact]

any message when you try to boot?

[skippybangkok]

Windows loading for 5 mins

Then get a sys recover options screen, tried every option

A. Use recovery tools....

B. Restore using previous image ( never made one)

1. start uprepair

2. restore to previous point ( comes w stupid message reboot and choose system to restore )

3. Sys image recovery

4. Mem diagnostic

5. Command promt

[massein]

any message when you try to boot?

I disagree. while on vacation in the us for the month of june i puschase

a toshiba s5o5 with window 7 pro installed and have had no problems. Not

that some may come later. Hope you get your problems work out good luck

[siamect]

ok... easy now... do you have a backup?

If you don't, this is the moment you should take one. You can use a USB or live CD to boot from just so you can get your important stuff out...

If you cannot do that, take out the disk and put it in a a working virusfree computer and do the backup from there...

[skippybangkok]

Won't let me me get into c: might need to pull hard disk out. This is amazing , if W7 is so fickle, time to go back to trusted XP. never ever had such issue w xp

[Pib]

But if the OP has no backup and there was a major hard drive failure/corruption the boot-up back into Windows "may" not be able to provide any data recovery. This is a big reason to periodically backup/mirror image your hard drive and have a system restore disc. Preaching to the choir I know. Over the years and after two hard drive failures with no backups, I finally listened to what was being preached to me and now regularly backup/mirror my hard drive. While XP was very good and I still use it on one of my computer, Windows 7 is definitely better/more stable. And don't even mention the vulgar word of Vista. Best of luck to the OP in fixing the problem along with a wish for full file/data recovery.

[skippybangkok]

Well, I do have some backups, but alot of water has flowed under the bridge over the last few months. With xp I never had this issue. If system crash badly, hold down start key for a few secs, and that's it. This was the first hard reset with W7, and what a shocker it has been. Did manage to boot from w7 cd, will see what happens. It's in this recover repair mode endless loop which I let run 4 hours w no end. Will see this round if ir recovers from the disk boot up. Grrrrr

[skippybangkok]

PS. Thx

[thrilled]

I've heard good things about 7,xp nothing fantastic.Go to safe mode,and system restore

[Pib]

Sincere good luck in the recovery. Just today I swapped out my laptop's 160GB hard drive for a 500GB hard drive...cloned the new hard drive which took about an hour plus another 30 minutes or so to physically swapped the drives in the computer. Next step is to buy another 500GB (or larger) hard drive for external backup purposes. But I'm OK for at least a few months since I have enough external drive storage capability to do full backups.

About 5 years ago I made the promise to myself (after my last hard drive blink-of-the-eye failure/corruption) to do regular backups/mirror images of my hard hard because it's just too painful to start from scratch, takes too long, have to reload every thing, go through the frustration, etc. Plus, hard drives are now pretty cheap so having/using a external/USB drive for about $50-$100 to do regular backups/mirrors can make computer life a lot less stressful., whether you are using XP, Win 7, or that cussword operating system called Vista.

[siamect]

.Go to safe mode,and system restore

But backup first... safe mode and system restores are risky stuff....

[wandrinstar]

Ive found its the hardware is normally at fault not the Prog.M.S do a prog without crap for laptops, called Dark or Fast something or other,theres no cheap laptops,the new Toshiba beats the lot..

[lopburi3]

I have used since beta and the only issue I have found is hardware. Seagate Free Agent USB drives prevent start up and have to be removed until system is loaded. First thing I would do with any start up problem is remove all USB cords.

I have had false lockups where no activity was evident but if wait awhile it catches up. Had that often with 1gb of ram but very seldom with 2gb.

[skippybangkok]

Cant open in safe mode as per XP. just goes into the screens above, and when u tell it to repair .... It repairs all night with no end. Its a 3 month old Dell laptop. Amazing. W7 must not like hard reset

[Traxster]

You see,the thing about new IT systems is that as soon as I get used to one System they bring out a new one in which a lot of things have been changed or moved

and so if I want to use the new System I have to learn all over again.

And then ,almost as soon as I've figured out the 'new System,they bring out another new one and I've got to start all over again !!!

dam_n.that gives me the 'runs'.........

[jybkk]

I understand you'e upset, but chances are big that the fact it happened a short time after you switched to from XP to W7 is merely coincidental.

Going back to XP isn't going to be safer.

What you describe can have a lot of origins, including some hardware failure on the disk.

The easiest would be to go to some IT shop and let them boot some recovery system from USB or CD. This should let you retrieve your data. If they can't boot either, then you'll know the hardware is the culprit.

Once the data is recovered, try reinstalling (not reparing). There's a chance that this Dell Laptop has a "reinstall to factory state" partition. Check the manual. If not, reinstall Windows 7 yourself... this should be an experience pleasant enough to change your opinion about this OS.

As for backup, I usually recommend the following setting:

• Use 2 different partitions on your computer, one for the system, one for the data
• In the data drive, separate in "data" and "archive".
  • Data is "My Documents" and anything you're curently working on, modifying on a regular basis and so on.
  • Archive is the stuff you want to keep but are not likely to modify: Last Year Pictures, Movies, Installation files

  [*]Open a free "Dropbox Account" and synchronize the "Data" folder there. The free account gives you 2GB space, it should be more than enough for your everyday documents. Every time you'll do changes within this Data folder, it will be replicated on your online storage. If your computer fries, then this part will be up to date until the very few minutes before the issue.[*]Regularly archive things you don't really use anymore by transferring them from "data" to "archive". When you do so, backup the "archive" on an external drive

This procedure gives you quite a lot of safety without too much hassle. If you make sure you keep all your installation files in the archive too, then you can forget about ghost backups and so... and if the worst happens and you have to completely change your computer, it will take a very short time to have the new one up and running with all your data

[mattcodes]

Yes you are best taking it to an IT tech. Just want sure they dont replace your legitmate Win7 with their cracked Windows 7.2 version (or whatever name they give to their messed up cracks). Or if believe related to disk (and the recovery hasnt further corrupted anything) try a low-level fix from http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm - its costs.

Windows7 doesnt suck, and I doubt this is related to W7 (presuming you had it working before)..

[H2oDunc]

When I installed 7 the first thing it advised me to do was make a rescue disc. If yours did not then most laptops have a rescue or restore partition on the HDD. Pressing F12 or one of the other F numbers normally gets you into this mode. Been running 7 now for months and can say it is far better than XP and Vista. I haven't had 1 issue with it.

[skippybangkok]

Well maybe u guys are right. Might be Dell. It's a 3 month old laptop, and the IT guy at work recons the hard reset can sometimes corrupt the HD. Even he cud not access C: and D: ( I did have a back up in partition / drive D, but that's fried too). He is now trying to recover data, but my last back up is 8 weeks old. Will look into them virtual back ups, might be of interest

Thx

[newtronbom]

I have been using a legitimate Win 7 Ultimate x64 on a high-end desktop, which I have modded to suite my tastes, for over 5 months with not a single issue. I can render out a huge 3D scene in 3D Max in the background, while playing a game while I'm waiting. There is a rescue disc available, but your OS may be too corrupt now to save. This disc will not reinstall Windows, but has many great recovery optns. I personally use Acronis True Image home 2010 to image and back up my whole drive to an external HD for safety. Win 7 is far superior to XP in every way. It boots up in a flash, is more stable and has more user friendly features than any other release. It's a great OS. Like cars though, each OS drives differently and you have to learn how to use and set up what you have. PM me if you still need help

[bulka]

mm...interesting, thanks for info

[siamect]

my last back up is 8 weeks old. Will look into them virtual back ups, might be of interest

I nag a lot about backups... I think it is important....

Make sure you have your backup storage in an open standard file format so that you can retrieve the data in the future when win7 is no longer sold and your backup software doesn't run on the new os that you have at that time

See the drop box stuff as an offline storage which can be useful, but it is not a backup system,

You make a mistake and you discover it after long time, will it still be there? I have seen some of these backup systems proudly say they save even deleted files for 30 days... You accountant probably require 10 years if he know what he is doing...

And what happens when you (or your cat) delete a few rows inside a document by mistake... will your system ever discover that? Will it clearly show it and are you able to retrieve the correct version? Can you verify your documents so you know it is not been changed since you gave them the ok sign?

I usually recommend distributed version control systems of good quality for this. Git is my favorite... it has everything you need and it is well worth the effort to learn it. Some people think it is only for programmers but I use it more for documentation than for software development.

Martin

[jhawks09]

Hi,

I would suggest/recommend posting/checking out Windows 7 Forums here ..... Many helpful and knowledgeable posters and staff. Can solve nearly every problem or point you in the right direction.

James

[ignis]

The problem I have is 'Shut Down'

All is fine installs updates etc, but on shut down the pc shuts down as normal but all the lights on the pc stay on, the screen is blank so windows 7 has shut down but the pc has not switched off... Any ideas Please ?.. I leave it for 10 mins or so then off the UPS

I did have a start up failure a week ago, but had made the disc when I installed Win 7, so popped it in and the recovery was made.

[jhawks09]

Hi Ignis,

Go to control panel> system and security> Power options> choose what power the power buttons do> change through drop down menu. I think you will find you are set to "sleep" or "hibernate"

James

[ignis]

Hi Ignis,

Go to control panel> system and security> Power options> choose what power the power buttons do> change through drop down menu. I think you will find you are set to "sleep" or "hibernate"

James

Thanks James...... No it is on Shut Down...... of course it shuts down but does not switch off happened after it auto updated 15 items a week or so ago

[jhawks09]

Hi Ignis,

Go to control panel> system and security> Power options> choose what power the power buttons do> change through drop down menu. I think you will find you are set to "sleep" or "hibernate"

James

Thanks James...... No it is on Shut Down...... of course it shuts down but does not switch off happened after it auto updated 15 items a week or so ago

OK...I have been updating all along and have had no issues with any so I don't think that's the problem. Try running a sfc /scannow in this manner: Start>All Programs>Accessories> right click on Command Prompt> Run as Administrator> (do you want to allow this program to make changes...yes)(a black box will appear) at the blinking cursor type the follwing: sfc /scannow (make sure you leave a space between c and the back slash and no space between the two n's in scannow) hit return and let it run. This will check and repair any system files. If this doesn't clear the problem then I would suggest you post it on Windows 7 Forums here As I posted above, they have many posters and staff with much more expertise than I and should be able to help.