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What we have to do is come up with a deterrent but what can we do to these people to convince them that their continued actions will cause even worse damage to them than what they inflict on us? Public executions? Bury them in pig slop? Nuke Mecca? Since they’re targeting their own people in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Algeria, Pakistan, Indonesia and elsewhere, the question begs: which countries have not been bombed and why? Maybe Libya, Jordan, Syria and Iran can answer that one .... :o

Ten urgent steps to make Britain safer:

1. Confidently assert British values

2. Exclude foreign undesirables

3. Repeal the Human Rights Act

4. Crackdown on propaganda

5. Intercept evidence admissible in court

6. Visible police presence

7. Sensible policing

8. Expectation for Muslims to join the police and security forces.

9. Effective border controls.

10. Increased detention facilities.

And my own personal step: Adopt the Patriot Act.

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What we have to do is come up with a deterrent but what can we do to these people to convince them that their continued actions will cause even worse damage to them than what they inflict on us? Public executions? Bury them in pig slop? Nuke Mecca?  Since they’re targeting their own people in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Algeria, Pakistan, Indonesia and elsewhere, the question begs: which countries have not been bombed and why? Maybe Libya, Jordan, Syria and Iran can answer that one .... :o

Ten urgent steps to make Britain safer:

1. Confidently assert British values

Yes: but there needs to be greater agreement as to what these are.

2. Exclude foreign undesirables

Yes: there does need to be some strengthening of legislation and powers of exclusion.

3. Repeal the Human Rights Act

No: UK has no constitution - this act affords some of the protections USA citizens have by right.

4. Crackdown on propaganda

Yes: as with all propaganda contrary to Nr. 1

5. Intercept evidence admissible in court

Yes: this is inevitable - expect legislation soon.

6. Visible police presence

Of course

7. Sensible policing

Of course

8. Expectation for Muslims to join the police and security forces.

These expectations are already in place - there are senior policemen who are Muslims - there could always be more.

9. Effective border controls.

Yes: but these can never be 100% and the travelling public has a limit to its patience with controls

10. Increased detention facilities.

This is just waffle. Prisoners can be detained on ships, in tents or on military bases if necessary.

And my own personal step:  Adopt the Patriot Act.

There is already something similar

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My own special solution to many of the problems of the UK is an old one (and often considered reactionary).

The UK should re-introduce National Service.

There are many countries that still have compulsory service to the state for over 18s.

A reintroduction of both military and civil service for all regardless of religious conviction ought to be compulsory for all over the age of 18 for a period of up to 2 years.

The values of discipline and service inculcated within this period would be invaluable and would most certainly remove the need for any USA style Patriot Act.

If some idiot runs through a checkpoint his death should be treated no less, but certainly no greater that a fool who dies running across a motorway.

....your anology........What made the fool run? ...is the question that needs to be asked I guess....anyway

Something doesn’t add up for me, one of the witnesses of the shooting said the cops held him on the ground and shot him 5 times in the head. Trigger happy cop or a simple execution of a suspect?

I am not sure your question is relevant.

You do not run over a motorway without risking being killed - whatever your reasons.

You do not run from the police in a terrorist alert - whatever your reasons.

Terrorism and its policing is not a game, or even everyday normal life where we are able to luxuriate in freedoms of choice.

Like the police can be trusted? You are well old enough to know what happened to innocent Irish Catholics in England during the IRA Terror campaign.

Not only old enough! My house was raided, because a student living there had associations with the IMG, in the days after the Birmingham bombings. The experience was horrific.

Nevertheless that experience coupled with the possible errors of over-zealous policing, are inconveniences we must suffer if terrorists are to be beaten.

We live in a society governed by checks and balances - checks and balances that control our policing and legal services - but also checks and balances between what we will allow to be acceptable in the civilised fighting of this war.

We who are removed from the heat of battle can theorize on limitations to be placed on the solders and policemen who stand in the front-line of these conflicts, but civilisation has already been turned on its head by the obscenities of the terrorists' actions, and therefore we must be temperate in our critisicms of those who make life and death decisions on our behalf.

It’s not a war, its a few mad misguided terrorists that the Intelligence agents should be able to deal with, surely? It’s not only the police in the front line but everyone in and around London. The Police certainly need to act within accepted standards.

I for one feel very uncomfortable about a man being held down and shot 5 times in the head by British Bobbies.

I do strongly disagree with you.

The deaths of thousands of innocents on 9/11 was an act of terrorism.

The indiscriminate deaths of the over 50 innocents in London was also an act of terrorism.

Terrorism by its nature is the most criminal act of war.

To treat it as less is to not only wander down a road that leads to inevitable defeat, but is also to demonstrate deep disrespect for the lives that are already sacrificed.

Care to add more comments?

The British Police have yet again fcuked up, thank god its not a war, is all I can say. It seems to me TM, you have been caught up in the emotion of Gun-Ho Sun like talk.

Care to add more comments?

The British Police have yet again fcuked up, thank god its not a war, is all I can say. It seems to me TM, you have been caught up in the emotion of Gun-Ho Sun like talk.

I will wait for the results of an inquiry before concluding the British police have “fukced up”. On the information available via the press it would seem the Brazilian gentleman made a grave mistake by disobeying a police command and then running from them.

It might be worth considering what could have happened if the situation was reversed – an Englishman running from Brazilian police (of death squad notoriety). I doubt the consequences would have been more acceptable to our sensitivities.

Meditation on how the “boys in brown” would have reacted to the running farang, might help put the matter in perspective.

But these are not excuses or as you say “Gun-Ho Sun like talk”. War is a bloody awful business. Its acts are the ultimate in desperation, defying all logic, intelligence and reason. It is not engaged, encompassed and protected by a set of Queensberry rules or even Geneva Conventions (only ever applied after the events). It is havoc. Its aim is total domination of the enemy by killing them until they give in. It is not won by gentlemen but by warriors.

We have been brought up by decades of sanitised Hollywood and British films on war – where never a drop of blood is seen – where John Wayne’s and Dirk Bogarde’s immaculate hairstyles remain unchanged throughout carnage and destruction.

Even the intensive TV coverage of the Gulf wars removed all signs of the bloody consequences.

Only the Vietnam War came closest to being represented on our screens and its awfulness reported through word of mouth to the American people who, unable to face the reality of war, rejected the sacrifices made by its young men and women. To the extent that being a Vietnam veteran, to many Americans, is only just one step up from being an ex-convict.

There is no politically correct way to fight a war. PC fighters are the dead ones – the losers. The PC critics are the back stabbers. The PC politicians are the traitors. This is the awful reality.

If you do not like it then you must become a pacifist or give in to the terrorists. There is no middle-way.

An interesting column from today's Daily Telegraph:

Suicide bombers are selfish fools, not romantics

By Jenny McCartney

(Filed: 24/07/2005)

In just two and a half weeks, London - that gently sprawling city, navigated with red double-decker buses and its creaking Tube trains - has become unusually jumpy. Twitchy passengers are suddenly on the look-out for clammy-looking young men with bulging rucksacks who might conceivably be Islamist extremists, a description which - given the July heat - seems to fit a sizeable proportion of travellers.

Grim tales float up from underground, of fleeing, unsuccessful bombers dangling stray wires, choking smoke, and panic: on Friday a suspected suicide bomber was pursued by armed police into a Tube carriage at Stockwell and shot dead.

Last week, however, before the second wave of attempted attacks, Bashir Ahmed, the uncle of Shehzad Tanweer - one of the bombers behind the July 7 explosions - told the News of the World that Shehzad "was driven to that [the bombing] by desperation, because he couldn't find justice anywhere". Later, he also informed the Evening Standard that "there are injustices in this world and some people feel more strongly about it than others. Shehzad obviously fell into that category".

The notion that the British Muslim suicide bombers of July 7 were spurred on by some passionate form of public-spiritedness, of course, is both flagrantly idiotic and deeply dangerous. Mr Ahmed's comments will do little to make life easier for his own family or the beleaguered families of the other suicide bombers, who have condemned the attacks in unequivocal terms.

Yet Mr Ahmed's apparent reasoning - that his nephew was compelled to kill himself and seven innocent people near Liverpool Street station by a combination of righteous anger and sheer desperation at injustices suffered by fellow-Muslims - is not too distant from the explanations that have in the past been provided for Palestinian suicide bombers by non-Muslim British public figures. Jenny Tonge, the former MP for Richmond Park, was sacked from the Liberal Democrat front bench last year when, following a trip to Palestine, she remarked of Palestinian suicide bombers: "I think if I had to live in that situation - and I say that advisedly - I might just consider becoming one myself."

Cherie Blair, speaking to reporters after a charity event with Queen Rania of Jordan in 2002, also mused: "As long as young people feel they have no hope but to blow themselves up, you are never going to make progress." In both cases, the women analysed suicide bombing as an almost inevitable by-product of extreme hopelessness. Both Baroness Tonge's and Mrs Blair's comments caused a ripple of controversy at the time, and then were forgotten.

I wonder, however, if the recent apparition of British suicide bombers - raised in circumstances that were far from desperate - might have caused Baroness Tonge and Mrs Blair to reconsider the psychological ingredients they once naively deemed necessary to the phenomenon. For both women have appeared to confuse the motivation of suicide with that of a suicide bombing. Suicide, in which the victims annihilate only themselves, is certainly the product of severe depression and hopelessness. Suicide bombing, however, fired by a volatile combination of religious and political fervour, is a vigorous act of self-assertion: the bomber hopes to make his triumphant, bloody mark upon the world before proceeding to his reward in Paradise.

It is no accident that the bulk of suicide bombers are young men, a group particularly drawn, not necessarily to hopelessness, but to the potent romance of a "cause". They are easily bored by the dreary, complicated business of living peacefully: the dull job, the squalling baby, and the round of minor compromises. Their professed desire to "avenge injustice" is not their driving motivation: that is a palatable excuse to buoy up their self-image. The real spur is an arrested, adolescent craving for immortality and legendary status among their peers.

Few sane people would deny that many Muslims worldwide have suffered injustices, although those injustices flow as frequently from the hands of their fellow-Muslims as from Christians or Jews. One does not need to be a Muslim to be concerned by their suffering.

But let us be under no illusion that Islamist suicide bombers, whether they immolate themselves in a Haifa restaurant or the London Underground, have any love for justice: they murder the most vulnerable without compunction. Nor have they any protective instinct for their fellow-Muslims, despite their rhetoric: one glance at the newspaper photographs after the July 7 bombings will proclaim that.

For there, staring back from the page of victims, is Shahara Islam, a beautiful 20-year-old bank cashier from Plaistow; Atique Sharifi, 24, an Afghan man whose parents were killed by the Taliban, and who was struggling to forge a new life in London; and Ihab Slimane, a 24-year-old student from France. They were all Muslims too, and they are all dead, their dreams forcibly extinguished by a bunch of selfish fools who hoped, with some frantic gesture, to render themselves more significant in death than they could ever be in life. Britons of all religions should remember one thing in the difficult months to come: the more we indulge spurious justifications for mass murder, the less we honour our dead.

Offtopic but bomb related example of sorts we are dealing with even when you are helping them..

Palestinian Woman Heading for Treatment at Israeli Hospital Caught Carrying Explosives

AP ^ | AP-ES-06-20-05 1609EDT

Posted on 06/20/2005 1:39:34 PM PDT by TheOtherOne

Palestinian Woman Heading for Treatment at Israeli Hospital Caught Carrying Explosives

By Lara Sukhtian Associated Press Writer

Published: Jun 20, 2005 SHIKMA PRISON, Israel (AP) - A badly burned Palestinian woman was alternately defiant and tearful Monday after Israeli soldiers caught her trying to enter Israel with 22 pounds of explosives hidden on her body.

The woman, who suffered serious burns on her hands, feet and neck in a kitchen explosion five months ago, had been granted permission to cross into Israel from the Gaza Strip for medical treatment when she raised the suspicion of soldiers at the Erez checkpoint.

Video released by the military showed 21-year-old Wafa al-Biss taking off articles of clothing on the orders of soldiers searching for explosives, and rubbing her disfigured neck with her burned hands and screaming.

The military said she tried to blow up the explosives Monday but failed and was not injured.

At the Shikma Prison in Israel's Negev Desert, where the Shin Bet security service allowed Israeli TV reporters to interview her, al-Biss said she was determined to carry out a suicide attack against Israel because of its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

"My dream was to be a martyr," she said, adding that she was recruited by the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a violent offshoot of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement. "I believe in death."

Sitting calmly across from an Israeli TV interviewer, the young woman with large brown eyes and curly dark hair pulled back in a ponytail said her decision had nothing to do with her disfigurement, which might make her less desirable as a bride.

"Don't think that because of how I look I wanted to carry out an attack," said al-Biss. "Since I was a little girl I wanted to carry out an attack."

However, her story grew more contradictory as the interview progressed. After more than an hour, she began to lose her composure and changed her story.

In a separate interview with foreign reporters, she asserted that she had undergone treatment at a Gaza hospital for her burns, where someone apparently planted the explosives on her body without her knowledge.

"I did not intend to carry out an attack," she said, at which point Israeli security officials told reporters she was lying.

"I didn't kill anyone. Do you think they will forgive me? Do you think they will give me any mercy?" she asked. "I hope they show me mercy. I didn't kill anyone."

Then al-Biss terminated the interview, saying she was exhausted.

Israeli military spokeswoman Maj. Sharon Feingold expressed outrage that Palestinian militants used a humanitarian case as a suicide bomber.

"These terror organizations are not only the enemies of the Israelis, but also of the Palestinian people themselves, who suffer as a result of this abuse of the young, the sick, the wounded," she said.

At one point al-Biss agreed with a reporter that she might have been a victim of the militants, breaking down and sobbing, "Forgive me, mother."

AP-ES-06-20-05 1609EDT

The unjustified killing of a Brazilian Christian will turn more British Muslim youth against the police than any other action so far in the UK. Who in their right mind will trust the Police now?

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It’s not a war, dealing with terrorism is not a war. Decent Policing and decent Intelligence is the answer.

We will have to agree to differ here. I feel you are very mistaken in not considering we are at war with terrorism. War was declared when over 50 innocents were mudered in those bomb atrocities (if not many years before).

The unjustified killing of a Brazilian Christian will turn more British Muslim youth against the police than any other action so far in the UK. Who in their right mind will trust the Police now?

Your apprehension for the police has unfortunately clouded your conclusion.

The death of the Brazilian is only problematic to those who understandably are in conflict with the dialectic between civil liberties and the prevention of terrorism.

British Muslims (who I hesitate to speak for), I imagine, view the incident only with astonishment because it measures the police’s ruthless commitment.

Operational errors in extreme stressful situations (if there have been any errors) only affects people's views on the services, if they are already indisposed to object to their role, or arrogantly assume they could do better – which IMHO they most definitely could not.

What happened to pledging your alegiance to the country that you call your home. People go to a country to get out of where they are for a multitude of reasons. Then they expect tolerance and exceptance of their way of life WITHOUT excepting this from the people that lived there originally.

I'm so tired of people being politically correct on everything. I'm so tired of these people having marches and all this other crapp. If you don't like the country you are in, then <removed> leave. I don't care if you were born there or not.

As far as terrorists that were born in England and they say they can't deport them then I say BVLLSH1T, kick their parents out too. Start getting rid of the whole family and I think maybe you'll see at least a slowing in this type of SH1T.

Don't immigrants sign pledges to their new country of choice? Did they go to this country to have a better way of life or what. If they think we are all infidels in our country then bloody he11 don't come to our country. We sure as he11 didn't ask for you to come and we sure as he11 don't want to go to yours. At least this is my point of view and ALL muslims that think I'm an infidel and think I should die because I do NOT believe in their religion can fvckoff. I'm even tired of the mosques speakers sounding off all damm day and we HAVE to except that too. What the he11 did these guys do before there wer frickin speakers? It's NOISE pollution to me.

I'm getting very tempted to close this thread or delete this whole dam.n thing.

If some of you guys can't talk sensibly about the subject, then it'll get closed.

I'm getting very tempted to close this thread or delete this whole dam.n thing.

If some of you guys can't talk sensibly about the subject, then it'll get closed.

Who are you referring to, RDN?

Brit Maveric and I did not agree with Harry's assessment that Muslims would be angry about a Christian getting killed at the railway station.

Our posts got deleted.

There's another poster above with a very foul-mouthed analysis of the situation. That post remains.

What happened to pledging your allegiance to the country that you call your home. People go to a country to get out of where they are for a multitude of reasons. Then they expect tolerance and exceptance of their way of life WITHOUT excepting the same from the people that lived there originally.

I'm so tired of people being politically correct on everything. I'm so tired of these people having marches and all this other ______. If you don't like the country you are in, then _____leave. I don't care if you were born there or not.

As far as terrorists that were born in England and they say they can't deport them then I say kick their parents out too. Start getting rid of the whole family and I think maybe you'll see at least a slowing in this type of _____.

Don't immigrants sign pledges to their new country of choice? Did they go to this country to have a better way of life or what. If they think we are all infidels in our country then don't come to our country. We sure as ___ didn't ask for you to come and we sure as ____ don't want to go to yours. At least this is my point of view and ALL muslims that think I'm an infidel and think I should die because I do NOT believe in their religion can _______. I'm even tired of the mosques speakers sounding off 5 times a ______ day every day and we HAVE to except that too. What did these guys do before there were speakers? It's NOISE pollution to me.

It is truely time the muslims themselves did something to stop this and if they don't then I think they are just as bad as the terrorists.

For all you PC people that can't handle the words I used in my post before this then delete that post but not this one.

What happened to pledging your allegiance to the country that you call your home. People go to a country to get out of where they are for a multitude of reasons. Then they expect tolerance and exceptance of their way of life WITHOUT excepting the same from the people that lived there originally.

I'm so tired of people being politically correct on everything. I'm so tired of these people having marches and all this other ______. If you don't like the country you are in, then _____leave. I don't care if you were born there or not.

As far as terrorists that were born in England and they say they can't deport them then I say kick their parents out too. Start getting rid of the whole family and I think maybe you'll see at least a slowing in this type of _____.

Don't immigrants sign pledges to their new country of choice? Did they go to this country to have a better way of life or what. If they think we are all infidels in our country then don't come to our country. We sure as ___ didn't ask for you to come and we sure as ____ don't want to go to yours. At least this is my point of view and ALL muslims that think I'm an infidel and think I should die because I do NOT believe in their religion can _______. I'm even tired of the mosques speakers sounding off 5 times a ______ day every day and we HAVE to except that too. What did these guys do before there were speakers? It's NOISE pollution to me.

It is truely time the muslims themselves did something to stop this and if they don't then I think they are just as bad as the terrorists.

  For all you PC people that can't handle the words I used in my post before this then delete that post but not this one.

I don't think anyone in Bedlam is offended by the f-word or worse, kringle.

But there are possibly some, like me, who think your views are stupid, unhelpful, and racist.

And IMHO do not belong here.

I guess I'm just tired of the muslims saying it's not all of us but really it is kinda your fault anyway and all the other bs that these people put out. Why does the majority have to live up to their ideals and beliefs. They immigrate to a new country and expect EVERYONE to except and cow tow to them and when we don't then they kill us or their children kill us. If you're white, yellow, black, green or purple, it doesn't matter to me. If ANYONE says that there child nephew or whatever realy had the right or was justified in killing innocent people then I think they should be deported. It's just getting too _____ stupid to me and I'm tired of it. Don't like the country you decided to immigrate to, then get the ___ out. If you are going to just sit back and do nothing to help solve these problems or give lame excuses as to why their rellies did this, then you can get out also.

I'm getting very tempted to close this thread or delete this whole dam.n thing.

If some of you guys can't talk sensibly about the subject, then it'll get closed.

Who are you referring to, RDN?

Not you, TM. :o

Brit Maveric and I did not agree with Harry's assessment that Muslims would be angry about a Christian getting killed at the railway station.

Our posts got deleted.

There's another poster above with a very foul-mouthed analysis of the situation. That post remains.

I don't read everything! Please use the "Report" button at the bottom left of a post if you want to bring it to the attention of a mod. Thanks.

Then delete it I don't care, I've said my bit and that was my rant. Up to you as to what you want to think and believe. I could not kill innocent people for something so idiotic and then say "well you are to blame for this happenning" and "it's not all of us" and then do nothing to stop the ones that are guilty. So go ahead and delete my 3 previous posts.

Kringle - its ok!

It was mine and Britt Maverick's posts that got canned.

We felt that there were certain Muslim Extremists who weren't feeling too sorry about the poor Brazilian Plumber being killed.

I didn't catch too much of it as I was on my own rant and I guess my language did get out of hand but I didn't think I was being racist. Certainly didn't mean it as such.

Applying shariah law to muslims in UK might help.

Mugged by reality?

July 25, 2005

WITH hindsight, the defining encounter of the age was not between Mohammed Atta's jet and the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, but that between Mohammed Atta and Johnelle Bryant a year earlier. Bryant is an official with the US Department of Agriculture in Florida, and the late Atta had gone to see her about getting a $US650,000 government loan to convert a plane into the world's largest crop-duster. A novel idea.

The meeting got off to a rocky start when Atta refused to deal with Bryant because she was but a woman. But, after this unpleasantness had been smoothed out, things went swimmingly. When it was explained to him that, alas, he wouldn't get the 650 grand in cash that day, Atta threatened to cut Bryant's throat. He then pointed to a picture behind her desk showing an aerial view of downtown Washington - the White House, the Pentagon et al - and asked: "How would America like it if another country destroyed that city and some of the monuments in it?"

Fortunately, Bryant's been on the training course and knows an opportunity for multicultural outreach when she sees one. "I felt that he was trying to make the cultural leap from the country that he came from," she recalled. "I was attempting, in every manner I could, to help him make his relocation into our country as easy for him as I could."

So a few weeks later, when fellow 9/11 terrorist Marwan al-Shehhi arrived to request another half-million dollar farm subsidy and Atta showed up cunningly disguised with a pair of glasses and claiming to be another person entirely - to whit, al-Shehhi's accountant - Bryant sportingly pretended not to recognise him and went along with the wheeze. The fake specs, like the threat to slit her throat and blow up the Pentagon, were just another example of the multicultural diversity that so enriches our society.

For four years, much of the western world behaved like Bryant. Bomb us, and we agonise over the "root causes" (that is, what we did wrong). Decapitate us, and our politicians rush to the nearest mosque to declare that "Islam is a religion of peace". Issue bloodcurdling calls at Friday prayers to kill all the Jews and infidels, and we fret that it may cause a backlash against Muslims. Behead sodomites and mutilate female genitalia, and gay groups and feminist groups can't wait to march alongside you denouncing Bush, Blair and Howard. Murder a schoolful of children, and our scholars explain that to the "vast majority" of Muslims "jihad" is a harmless concept meaning "decaf latte with skimmed milk and cinnamon sprinkles".

Read the rest - it's all about trendy multiculturalism as societal Stockholm Syndrome:

Anyone can be tolerant of the tolerant, but tolerance of intolerance gives an even more intense pleasure to the multiculti masochists.. :o

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So a few weeks later, when fellow 9/11 terrorist Marwan al-Shehhi arrived to request another half-million dollar farm subsidy and Atta showed up cunningly disguised with a pair of glasses and claiming to be another person entirely

so how did people this smart manage to make a mockery of apparently the greatest security forces in the world?

So a few weeks later, when fellow 9/11 terrorist Marwan al-Shehhi arrived to request another half-million dollar farm subsidy and Atta showed up cunningly disguised with a pair of glasses and claiming to be another person entirely

so how did people this smart manage to make a mockery of apparently the greatest security forces in the world?

Lousy 'intelligence' sharing between the FBI/CIA etc... :o

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Taoism: shit happens

Buddhism: if shit happens, it isn't really shit

Islam: if shit happens, it is the will of Allah

Catholicism: if shit happens, you deserve it

Judaism: why does this shit always happen to us?

Atheism: I don't believe this shit

Some bag search links:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/26/nyregion...html?oref=login

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/05/07/con05256.html

DO NOT CONSENT. That was written across the upper chest of a woman exiting the Apple store in Soho. I didn’t catch the meaning at first. However, a half hour later as I entered the Broadway Lafayette subway station, I figured it out pretty quickly. “Open your bag,” the police officer told me. There were three other cops nearby inspecting personal belongings.

Of course I didn’t comply. The officer, a nice enough fellow, told me I wouldn’t be allowed on the train unless I did. I saw the need to educate the officer. I will get on the subway, I told him, and, of course, you won’t be looking in my bag. He didn’t like it, and it caused the other officers to laugh. I’ll be getting on the subway, and there's a decent chance it’ll be the next train, and you will not be looking in my bag, I repeated for a few surprised straphangers to catch the drift.

I hadn’t raised my voice, I delivered it with a smile, yet now I had stern attention from all four cops as they gathered around. Relax gentlemen; I’m not doing anything wrong. I pointed to the first cop, I’m simply telling this kind police officer why he’s wrong and he won’t be telling me what to do. The chubby cop caught my bait, “Is that right, you’re going to get by all four of us?” I will, and without much difficulty, I told them, just as easy as a terrorist would be able to do it. I continued, I will simply go upstairs and cross the street and enter on the other side where there are no cops standing around. And if tomorrow there are cops there, I will simply walk to the next station. There are too many stations on the subway to have cops posted at every one of them. Add to it the thousands of subway access points from street grates, sewer lines, and tunnels, and you have to agree that the subway is an open ended system. It cannot be sealed off. A terrorist could easily figure this out; especially these genius types who were supposedly able to foil the most dominant military defense system in the world when they managed to strike the pentagon on 9/11. (Something most experts believe was impossible) After cracking the pentagon, the subway must be a joke. Furthermore, what is to prevent a terrorist from buying a fat suit and strapping themselves with explosives, and then asking one of you cops inspecting his bag how to make a transfer to the Wall Street bound #1 train.

NOT A PHOTOSHOPPED IMAGE:

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I like the bit about "Looking Foreign"! :o

NOT A PHOTOSHOPPED IMAGE:

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I like the  bit about "Looking Foreign"! :D

:o I totally fail to see the humour in it. To me it is just an honest warning to people trying to avoid tragedies like the one with the Brazilian. Would you still laugh if he was your brother?

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