In these day and age when ref's have got enough things to deal with when are timekeeper's going to be introduced as in other sports.

Refs rarely get the time added right, take last night's game, it should have been a minimum of 12 mins added time, 3 mins for subs,2 or 3 mins for Carrolls injury and at least 7 mins for Carragher.

I think you're probably right, it would be a good thing, but ofcourse FIFA does'nt like too much accountability do they.

I thought it was man utd that can have more than 5 minutes added on time.maybe it should be wengertime and still cocked it up.

That's the point, whatever time you think should have been added it's not official, the only official time accounting is held by the referee since he both stops the watch and restarts it when he sees appropriate..

That's the point, whatever time you think should have been added it's not official, the only official time accounting is held by the referee since he both stops the watch and restarts it when he sees appropriate..

Does anyone know exactly how it works with the refs watch / watches :-

1. Does he have one watch which he stops when there's an injury and restarts the watch when play resumes, which means he would'nt know how much extra time is to be played.

2. Does he 2 watches, one that runs continually and one for timing injuries etc, which he then adds on at the end of the game.

3. Does he have 2 watches, one of which is a mickey mouse one that he only uses for Man U games

That's the point, whatever time you think should have been added it's not official, the only official time accounting is held by the referee since he both stops the watch and restarts it when he sees appropriate..

Does anyone know exactly how it works with the refs watch / watches :-

1. Does he have one watch which he stops when there's an injury and restarts the watch when play resumes, which means he would'nt know how much extra time is to be played.

2. Does he 2 watches, one that runs continually and one for timing injuries etc, which he then adds on at the end of the game.

3. Does he have 2 watches, one of which is a mickey mouse one that he only uses for Man U games

most refs wear two watches i think. seem to recall reading that somewhere. one is left to run the whole duration of the match, the other he stops whenever there's a significant stoppage in play. so for added time he then subtracts one from the other.

thing most people forget about added time is that it is a 'minimum amount' of added time. he's then allowed to add more if it's deemed the team in front is time-wasting for example.

That's the point, whatever time you think should have been added it's not official, the only official time accounting is held by the referee since he both stops the watch and restarts it when he sees appropriate..

Does anyone know exactly how it works with the refs watch / watches :-

1. Does he have one watch which he stops when there's an injury and restarts the watch when play resumes, which means he would'nt know how much extra time is to be played.

2. Does he 2 watches, one that runs continually and one for timing injuries etc, which he then adds on at the end of the game.

3. Does he have 2 watches, one of which is a mickey mouse one that he only uses for Man U games

most refs wear two watches i think. seem to recall reading that somewhere. one is left to run the whole duration of the match, the other he stops whenever there's a significant stoppage in play. so for added time he then subtracts one from the other.

thing most people forget about added time is that it is a 'minimum amount' of added time. he's then allowed to add more if it's deemed the team in front is time-wasting for example.

Yes but personally when I refereed one watch was sufficient as the modern day watches are more then capable of multitasking and keeping track of several different timing modes independently. A simple stop watch function for example is easy enough to use for time stoppage and aggregate time to be added..

I.E.

Press the stop watch function when a time out occurs and then again when play resumes as if counting race laps for instance and then total towards the end of the match to see how much additional time is needed.. Quite simple really..

3. Does he have 2 watches, one of which is a mickey mouse one that he only uses for Man U games

If it's a Man United game, he doesn't bother wearing one as Fergie tells him when it's time to stop.

They're a bit thick these refs aint they?

I'd get a sponsorship deal with Rolex.....a few Milk Tray ads with the lads absailing into the latest wronged wag's mansion and flashing a cheeky grin.

Only trouble is where to begin.....

3. Does he have 2 watches, one of which is a mickey mouse one that he only uses for Man U games

If it's a Man United game, he doesn't bother wearing one as Fergie tells him when it's time to stop.

There we go obsessed again

3. Does he have 2 watches, one of which is a mickey mouse one that he only uses for Man U games

If it's a Man United game, he doesn't bother wearing one as Fergie tells him when it's time to stop.