17.11.05 | Below copy of communication purportedly sent by Yuri Pimentel to Ted Koppel regarding the invasion plan that the USA has for Venezuela.

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/redir.php?...62fd6adf564928c

I would love some feed back on this Booners

The Pentgon's Plans To Invade Venezuela

The United States has military contingency plans aimed against Venezuela, contrary to the UN Charter and the document guiding relations between members of the Organizations of American States (OAS).

http://rense.com/general68/plan.htm

er... it was taking to long to load the link, so just a quick question.

They'll leave Guatemal Highlands out of this one won't they??

The Pentgon's Plans To Invade Venezuela

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Um .... hate to burst your bubble Torny but .....

Your links are nothing but misinformation, anti-American propaganda courtesy of Hug Chavez.

But I'll tell you what. I'll guarantee you that the Pentagon has planned and war-gamed how to invade many countries around the world, as well as how to react to invasions and attacks from other countries and organizations.

Anyone who thinks they aren't doing this would have to be pretty naive. Anyone who thinks militaries of other large governments around the world don't do the same thing are deluding themselves as well.

That's part of their job for chrissakes! So &lt;deleted&gt;' what??

17.11.05 | Below copy of communication purportedly sent by Yuri Pimentel to Ted Koppel regarding the invasion plan that the USA has for Venezuela.

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/redir.php?...62fd6adf564928c

I would love some feed back on this Booners 

Spee says it all.

er... it was taking to long to load the link, so just a quick question.

They'll leave Guatemal Highlands out of this one won't they??

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They have absolutely no plans for the Guatemal Highlands....absolutly none....zip....nada....zero.....in fact they call the Guatemal Highlands "Ground Zero" in all their plans!!

er... it was taking to long to load the link, so just a quick question.

They'll leave Guatemal Highlands out of this one won't they??

They have absolutely no plans for the Guatemal Highlands....absolutly none....zip....nada....zero.....in fact they call the Guatemal Highlands "Ground Zero" in all their plans!!

Contingency plans, Chownah.

Operative term = contingency - read Spee again?

er... it was taking to long to load the link, so just a quick question.

They'll leave Guatemal Highlands out of this one won't they??

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They have absolutely no plans for the Guatemal Highlands....absolutly none....zip....nada....zero.....in fact they call the Guatemal Highlands "Ground Zero" in all their plans!!

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Contingency plans, Chownah.

Operative term = contingency - read Spee again?

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Oh...sorry...forgot!!!

Chavez - Bush Is 'An

Assassin...A Crazy Man'

News24.com

11-18-5

CARACAS -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, extending his war of words with Washington, on Thursday called US President George W Bush "an assassin" and accused the United States of meddling in his country's affairs.

Chavez said: "The people of the US are governed by an assassin ... a crazy man! I think the people of the US are more aware of this situation every day."

Relations between Chavez and Washington had become increasingly strained, though the US remained the top buyer of Venezuelan oil.

Illegal narcotics

Chavez had repeatedly clashed with the US government and accused Washington of seeking to oust him - a claim US officials had denied.

The Bush administration, in turn, had expressed concerns over the health of Venezuela's democracy and criticised the South American nation for not doing enough to block shipments of illegal narcotics to the US and Europe.

During a late-night speech to Venezuelan officials and Brazilian business leaders at Miraflores Presidential Palace on Thursday, Chavez praised Americans who stood up to their "imperialist" government.

'Aggression against Venezuela'

He said: "Welcome, those who oppose the war and aggression against Iraq, who oppose the aggression against Venezuela."

Chavez, who had close ties with Cuban leader Fidel Castro, encouraged leftist governments in Latin American to resist American hegemony in the region.

He said: "This is a time of resistance ... and you can be sure, that if we fail, our children and our grandchildren will be here resisting."

US ambassador William Brownfield said this week that Venezuelan officials had wrongly accused Washington of a range of conspiracies ranging from planning alleged assassination plots to causing floods brought on by global warming.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,...1836589,00.html

Chavez is the nutter - anyone actually heard this loon speak? Completely out of his mind - schizoid.

I don't like the man myself, but Tornado I get the impression that you are really looking for something to make him appear worse than he is. I mean, the things he has done already, isn't that enough to want him out of office? Isn't that enough to dislike him? Why do you have to dig up crackpot stories to make the paint on the wall dryer than it is?

Chavez is the nutter - anyone actually heard this loon speak? Completely out of his mind - schizoid. 

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Bush 'plotted' to bomb al-Jazeera

From correspondents in London

November 22, 2005

US President George W. Bush planned to bomb pan-Arab television broadcaster al-Jazeera, British newspaper the Daily Mirror said today, citing a Downing Street memo marked "Top Secret".

The five-page transcript of a conversation between Mr Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair reveals that Mr Blair talked Mr Bush out of launching a military strike on the station, unnamed sources told the anti-war-in-Iraq daily.

The transcript of the pair's talks during Mr Blair's April 16, 2004, visit to Washington allegedly shows Mr Bush wanted to attack the satellite channel's headquarters.

Mr Blair allegedly feared such a strike, in the business district of Doha, the capital of Qatar, a key western ally in the Persian Gulf, would spark revenge attacks.

The Mirror quoted an unnamed British government official as saying Mr Bush's threat was "humorous, not serious".

Al-Jazeera's perspectives on the war in Iraq have drawn criticism from Washington since the US-led March 2003 invasion.

The station has broadcast messages from al-Qaeda terror network chief Osama bin Laden and the beheadings of Western hostages by insurgents in Iraq, as well as footage of dead coalition servicemen and Iraqi civilians killed in fighting.

A source told the Mirror: "The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush.

"He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere. Blair replied that would cause a big problem.

"There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do - and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."

Another source said: "Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair. That much is absolutely clear from the language used by both men."

A spokesman for Mr Blair's Downing Street office said: "We have got nothing to say about this story. We don't comment on leaked documents."

The Mirrorsaid the memo turned up in the office of then British MP Tony Clarke, a member of Mr Blair's Labour Party, in May 2004.

Civil servant David Keogh, 49, is accused under the Official Secrets Act of handing it it to Mr Clarke's former researcher Leo O'Connor, 42. Both are bailed to appear at Bow Street Magistrates Court in central London next week.

Mr Clarke returned the memo to Downing Street. He said Mr O'Connor had behaved "perfectly correctly".

He told Britain's domestic Press Association news agency that Mr O'Connor had done "exactly the right thing" in bringing it to his attention.

The Mirror said such a strike would have been "the most spectacular foreign policy disaster since the Iraq war itself".

The newspaper said that the memo "casts fresh doubt on claims that other attacks on al-Jazeera were accidents". It cited the 2001 direct hit on the channel's Kabul office.

Mr Blair's former defence minister Peter Kilfoyle challenged Downing Street to publish the transcript.

"I hope the Prime Minister insists this memo be published," he told the Mirror.

"It gives an insight into the mindset of those who were architects of the war."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...55E1702,00.html

as saying Mr Bush's threat was "humorous, not serious".

and if you make a joke about bombing something - you are obviuosly a terrorist - nevermind you do not have the resources at your disposal - unlike the deranged bush , his greed is less of a worry than his religious extremism.

I don't like the man myself, but Tornado I get the impression that you are really looking for something to make him appear worse than he is. I mean, the things he has done already, isn't that enough to want him out of office? Isn't that enough to dislike him? Why do you have to dig up crackpot stories to make the paint on the wall dryer than it is?

Tornado is on a Crusade.

Sorta reminiscent of Don Quixote tilting at windmills...

Put your glasses on...

Chavez is the nutter - anyone actually heard this loon speak? Completely out of his mind - schizoid. 

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Bush 'plotted' to bomb al-Jazeera

From correspondents in London

November 22, 2005

US President George W. Bush planned to bomb pan-Arab television broadcaster al-Jazeera, British newspaper the Daily Mirror said today, citing a Downing Street memo marked "Top Secret".

The five-page transcript of a conversation between Mr Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair reveals that Mr Blair talked Mr Bush out of launching a military strike on the station, unnamed sources told the anti-war-in-Iraq daily.

The transcript of the pair's talks during Mr Blair's April 16, 2004, visit to Washington allegedly shows Mr Bush wanted to attack the satellite channel's headquarters.

Mr Blair allegedly feared such a strike, in the business district of Doha, the capital of Qatar, a key western ally in the Persian Gulf, would spark revenge attacks.

The Mirror quoted an unnamed British government official as saying Mr Bush's threat was "humorous, not serious".

Al-Jazeera's perspectives on the war in Iraq have drawn criticism from Washington since the US-led March 2003 invasion.

The station has broadcast messages from al-Qaeda terror network chief Osama bin Laden and the beheadings of Western hostages by insurgents in Iraq, as well as footage of dead coalition servicemen and Iraqi civilians killed in fighting.

A source told the Mirror: "The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush.

"He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere. Blair replied that would cause a big problem.

"There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do - and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."

Another source said: "Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair. That much is absolutely clear from the language used by both men."

A spokesman for Mr Blair's Downing Street office said: "We have got nothing to say about this story. We don't comment on leaked documents."

The Mirrorsaid the memo turned up in the office of then British MP Tony Clarke, a member of Mr Blair's Labour Party, in May 2004.

Civil servant David Keogh, 49, is accused under the Official Secrets Act of handing it it to Mr Clarke's former researcher Leo O'Connor, 42. Both are bailed to appear at Bow Street Magistrates Court in central London next week.

Mr Clarke returned the memo to Downing Street. He said Mr O'Connor had behaved "perfectly correctly".

He told Britain's domestic Press Association news agency that Mr O'Connor had done "exactly the right thing" in bringing it to his attention.

The Mirror said such a strike would have been "the most spectacular foreign policy disaster since the Iraq war itself".

The newspaper said that the memo "casts fresh doubt on claims that other attacks on al-Jazeera were accidents". It cited the 2001 direct hit on the channel's Kabul office.

Mr Blair's former defence minister Peter Kilfoyle challenged Downing Street to publish the transcript.

"I hope the Prime Minister insists this memo be published," he told the Mirror.

"It gives an insight into the mindset of those who were architects of the war."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...55E1702,00.html

as saying Mr Bush's threat was "humorous, not serious".

and if you make a joke about bombing something - you are obviuosly a terrorist - nevermind you do not have the resources at your disposal - unlike the deranged bush , his greed is less of a worry than his religious extremism.

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get em Stu!

couldnt be true though, Bush is a Cowboy Christian

Chavez is the nutter - anyone actually heard this loon speak? Completely out of his mind - schizoid. 

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Bush 'plotted' to bomb al-Jazeera

From correspondents in London

November 22, 2005

US President George W. Bush planned to bomb pan-Arab television broadcaster al-Jazeera, British newspaper the Daily Mirror said today, citing a Downing Street memo marked "Top Secret".

The five-page transcript of a conversation between Mr Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair reveals that Mr Blair talked Mr Bush out of launching a military strike on the station, unnamed sources told the anti-war-in-Iraq daily.

The transcript of the pair's talks during Mr Blair's April 16, 2004, visit to Washington allegedly shows Mr Bush wanted to attack the satellite channel's headquarters.

Mr Blair allegedly feared such a strike, in the business district of Doha, the capital of Qatar, a key western ally in the Persian Gulf, would spark revenge attacks.

The Mirror quoted an unnamed British government official as saying Mr Bush's threat was "humorous, not serious".

Al-Jazeera's perspectives on the war in Iraq have drawn criticism from Washington since the US-led March 2003 invasion.

The station has broadcast messages from al-Qaeda terror network chief Osama bin Laden and the beheadings of Western hostages by insurgents in Iraq, as well as footage of dead coalition servicemen and Iraqi civilians killed in fighting.

A source told the Mirror: "The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush.

"He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere. Blair replied that would cause a big problem.

"There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do - and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."

Another source said: "Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair. That much is absolutely clear from the language used by both men."

A spokesman for Mr Blair's Downing Street office said: "We have got nothing to say about this story. We don't comment on leaked documents."

The Mirrorsaid the memo turned up in the office of then British MP Tony Clarke, a member of Mr Blair's Labour Party, in May 2004.

Civil servant David Keogh, 49, is accused under the Official Secrets Act of handing it it to Mr Clarke's former researcher Leo O'Connor, 42. Both are bailed to appear at Bow Street Magistrates Court in central London next week.

Mr Clarke returned the memo to Downing Street. He said Mr O'Connor had behaved "perfectly correctly".

He told Britain's domestic Press Association news agency that Mr O'Connor had done "exactly the right thing" in bringing it to his attention.

The Mirror said such a strike would have been "the most spectacular foreign policy disaster since the Iraq war itself".

The newspaper said that the memo "casts fresh doubt on claims that other attacks on al-Jazeera were accidents". It cited the 2001 direct hit on the channel's Kabul office.

Mr Blair's former defence minister Peter Kilfoyle challenged Downing Street to publish the transcript.

"I hope the Prime Minister insists this memo be published," he told the Mirror.

"It gives an insight into the mindset of those who were architects of the war."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...55E1702,00.html

as saying Mr Bush's threat was "humorous, not serious".

and if you make a joke about bombing something - you are obviuosly a terrorist - nevermind you do not have the resources at your disposal - unlike the deranged bush , his greed is less of a worry than his religious extremism.

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get em Stu!

couldnt be true though, Bush is a Cowboy Christian

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I'll settle for Cowboy!!

I am not trying to insult or pick a fight here Tornado. I just really want to here why, when the fire is already burning you feel the need to hold a zippo up it? Whatever good this man has done is being stuffed away ever time he puts his foot in his mouth, so why do you need more. I ask you this question because I thought you would answer it and not hide away from it. I would ask the same question of any right winger who felt, and some who still feel, the need to find even more dirt on Clinton. Isn't the dirt out there already enough? Why waste your time? Let them dig their own graves.

I am not trying to insult or pick a fight here Tornado. I just really want to here why, when the fire is already burning you feel the need to hold a zippo up it? Whatever good this man has done is being stuffed away ever time he puts his foot in his mouth, so why do you need more. I ask you this question because I thought you would answer it and not hide away from it. I would ask the same question of any right winger who felt, and some who still feel, the need to find even more dirt on Clinton. Isn't the dirt out there already enough? Why waste your time? Let them dig their own graves.

Recall, Tornado is on a Crusade?

I am not trying to insult or pick a fight here Tornado. I just really want to here why, when the fire is already burning you feel the need to hold a zippo up it? Whatever good this man has done is being stuffed away ever time he puts his foot in his mouth, so why do you need more. I ask you this question because I thought you would answer it and not hide away from it. I would ask the same question of any right winger who felt, and some who still feel, the need to find even more dirt on Clinton. Isn't the dirt out there already enough? Why waste your time? Let them dig their own graves.

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Recall, Tornado is on a Crusade?

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Okay, but even a crusade has point.

Hey Torny.... down with the unbelievers I say!! I just got invited on a press trip to Venezuela to dig out THE TRUTH. It's not a free press trip, so if you'd care to sponsor me I WILL PUBLISH THE TRUTH.

Details as follows:

Venezuela : Democracy, Development, and Regional Integration- A New Vision for the Americas

April 08, 2006 - April 19, 2006

In the past, Venezuela's oil wealth benefited a few.

Today, it benefits a few million.

Something remarkable is happening in Venezuela. The lives of millions of Venezuelans are improving as historic wrongs are being righted. The world's fifth-largest oil producer, Venezuela has long been a country of contrasts: despite its great wealth, 80% of Venezuelans live in poverty. Now, for the first time, millions of Venezuelans have access to education, job training, housing, land, clean water, health care, and something maybe even more precious: dignity.

The August 15, 2004 referendum on Hugo Chávez's presidential mandate reaffirmed the support of the Venezuelan people for the government's social justice agenda. With a strong social base and a commitment to participatory democracy, the government, working together with social movements, is launching a wide range of innovative programs to fulfill the strong human rights agenda of the new popularly-approved Constitution.

Community-based preventative health care missions are making health care a tangible human right, causing infant mortality to plummet. Educational missions are putting millions more children into thousands of new schools, while high school and college scholarship programs keep kids reaching for new horizons. At the same time, Venezuelan elders are imbuing their citizenship with new meaning as over one million of them learn to read and write for the first time in the Literacy campaign. Women, Indigenous peoples, and Afro-Venezuelans are gaining power and rights, while a high-profile land reform campaign is sweeping the nation, giving poor farmers access to land and opportunities.

Venezuela is fast becoming a leader in regional integration in the hemisphere, particularly in the promotion of viable alternatives to corporate globalization and the "free trade" model. The proposed Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (ALBA) would prioritize endogenous development, bilateral trade, and regional cooperation as a way to strengthen national economies. Venezuela is also working to create the first Latin American news channel, TeleSur, to offer an alternative to foreign corporate media, and the establish of PetroAmérica— the first fully integrated, Latin American oil company.

These ambitious programs have distinguished Venezuela as one of the most progressive democracies in the world. Nonetheless, the Bush Administration -- which endorsed the coup d'etat against Venezuelan democracy in 2002 -- continues in its efforts to discredit the government's legitimacy both at home and abroad. Likewise, political polarization has racked the country for years. What are the opposition's complaints, and what is their agenda in the post-Referendum period?

We invite you to travel to Venezuela with Global Exchange to dig past the headlines and explore the changes occurring in Venezuela, Latin America and the hemisphere as a whole. Meet with human rights activists, rural agricultural workers, labor unions, community activists, journalists, and government as well as opposition figures, and see for yourself the unprecedented social change that is occurring at this historic time in Venezuela and the region. At the crossroads of the Andean mountains, the Caribbean coast, the Amazon rainforest, and the Amacuro River Delta, Venezuela's wondrous natural diversity and beauty combined with its visionary social justice agenda guarantee an exciting -- and unforgettable -- experience.

- Global Exchange is a San Francisco-based human rights organization

http://www.globalexchange.org

How much would it cost myself and Boon Mee, we would like to go halves.....

Oh, only 1K US each (that's not much between you & Boon Mee , Torny) ............ just a drop in the ocean to settle the matter