Michael Yon shows us the brilliant faces of the children of Iraq—faces that the Lamestream media doesn’t want us to see.

this guy was on the way to get some goats milk

This is Baghdad, Thursday March 27 :

"thanks for help in giving us Freedom."

Thanks for the link Boon, all very nice.

I've found this one too.

sorry no pics yet

Three Civilians Mistakenly Killed in Iraq

Monday November 21, 2005 8:31 PM

AP Photo BAG110

By BASSEM MROUE

Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - U.S. soldiers fired on a civilian vehicle Monday because they feared it might hold a suicide bomber, killing at least two adults and a child northeast of the capital, American and Iraqi officials said. The troops fired on the car because it was moving erratically outside a U.S. base in Baqouba, 35 miles from Baghdad, said Maj. Steven Warren, a U.S. spokesman. ``It was one of these regrettable, tragic incidents,'' Warren said.

Dr. Ahmed Fouad at the city morgue and police officials gave a higher death toll, saying five people - including three children - were killed while driving home from a funeral.

Iraqi officials have long complained about American troops firing at civilian vehicles that appear suspicious. U.S. officials note that suicide car bombers often strike U.S. and Iraqi checkpoints.

The shooting took place in a province that has experienced at least four major bombings in the last three weeks - including a suicide car bomb Monday that missed U.S. vehicles but killed five civilians outside Baqouba.

Mystery continued to surround a firefight that broke out when U.S. and Iraqi forces surrounded a house in the northern city of Mosul that was believed used by members of al-Qaida in Iraq. Eight insurgents and four Iraqi policemen died in the assault, officials said.

Iraq's foreign minister said tests were being done to determine if the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, died in the raid. And a U.S. government official confirmed that DNA from the insurgents' bodies had been taken for testing. The official in Washington spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

However, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq cast doubt on whether al-Zarqawi was killed. ``Unfortunately, we did not get him in Mosul,'' Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said of Iraq's most feared terrorist.

The raid took place in a mostly Kurdish area of eastern Mosul where attacks against U.S. and Iraqi forces less common than in the western, mostly Sunni Arab part of the city. However, U.S. soldiers say many insurgents live in eastern Mosul and launch attacks elsewhere.

Shahwan Fadhl Ali, a neighbor, said eight Arabs - four men, a woman and three children - had been living quietly there since last year. ``They might have been Syrians or Jordanians but not Iraqis,'' he said.

On Saturday, police Brig. Gen. Said Ahmed al-Jubouri said the raid was launched after a tip that top al-Qaida operatives, possibly including al-Zarqawi, were in the house. In Moscow, visiting Iraqi Foreign Minister Hohshyar Zebari told Jordan's official Petra news agency that authorities were testing DNA samples from several corpses to determine if al-Zarqawi was among them.

But U.S. officials avoided linking al-Zarqawi to the Mosul raid and sought to dispel speculation that the terror mastermind was dead.

``I don't believe that we got him. Of course, his days are numbered, we are after him, we are getting ever closer,'' Khalilzad said.

At the Pentagon, Army spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said U.S. forces ``employ whatever means required'' - presumably including DNA - ``to identify suspected or known terrorists or insurgents.''

In Cairo, Egypt, on Monday, leaders of Iraq's Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis wrapped up a conference by condemning terrorism but saying the opposition had a ``legitimate right'' to resistance. Their statement omitted any reference to attacks on U.S. or Iraqi forces, and delegates in Cairo said the omission was intentional. They spoke anonymously, saying they feared retribution.

The gathering organized by the Arab League also said there should be a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign forces from Iraq, a key demand of Sunni Arabs.

The differentiation between terrorism and legitimate resistance was an overture to some Sunni Arab insurgent groups, which the Iraqi government believes might be ready for talks. The plan would be to drive a wedge between those groups and extremists such as al-Qaida.

``Though resistance is a legitimate right for all people, terrorism does not represent resistance. Therefore, we condemn terrorism and acts of violence, killing and kidnapping targeting Iraqi citizens and humanitarian, civil, government institutions, national resources and houses of worships,'' the document said.

Also Monday, gunmen killed a Sunni cleric, Khalil Ibrahim, outside his home in the mostly Shiite city of Basra, police said. The victim was a member of the Association of Muslim Scholars, a group of influential Sunni clerics that has been sharply critical of the Shiite-led government.

Four Iraqi policemen were killed and another wounded by gunmen in the town of Tarmiyah just north of Baghdad, police said.

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Iraq leaders demand pullout timetable

Monday 21 November 2005, 21:36 Makka Time, 18:36 GMT

The meeting in Cairo is sponsored by the Arab League

Iraqi leaders have put persistent differences to one side and agreed on their first joint statement, calling for a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops from the country.

Christian, Shia, Sunni and Kurdish leaders also on Monday demanded the release of prisoners and a programme for rebuilding Iraq's armed forces after talks in Cairo aimed at ending conflict between their communities and achieving national reconciliation.

At the end of the three-day meeting sponsored by the Cairo-based Arab League, the Iraqi leaders called for the withdrawal of US and British forces from Iraq by immediately setting a timetable for gradually rebuilding Iraq's armed forces.

They condemned attacks on Iraqi civilians, government institutions and oil installations and called for the release of all detainees held without trial.

Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa, who set up the meeting, read the final statement at a session delayed by last-minute differences over how to describe the fighting to drive out US troops and overthrow the government.

Nagging differences

Even the final text did not meet unanimous approval. Harith al-Dari of the Association of Muslim Scholars (AMS), the highest Sunni body in Iraq, said he had reservations about last-minute additions.

Sources told Aljazeera's Cairo correspondent Atwar Bahjat that al-Dari wanted the statement to condemn the wrongdoings of the former and current Iraqi governments.

Al-Dari represents a strong anti-American and anti-government line at the conference, arguing that the fighting against the US-led military presence in Iraqi was a legitimate response to US occupation. He accused Iraqi forces of adopting US practices such as torture and mass arrests.

Al-Dari (2nd L) said the AMS

will respect the final statement

"We have reservations about the final statements and the phrases which were added to it in the last minute. However, we will respect and commit to the final statement's articles," he told reporters.

Moussa succeeded in preparing the first meeting between al-Dari and Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari. Details of the meeting remained unrevealed.

Arguable value

Armed anti-US groups did not take part in the Cairo meeting. The Iraqi government refuses to deal with anyone who attacks civilians or whom they suspect of seeking to restore Baathist rule.

The most contentious part of the agreement was its treatment of "resistance" - seen by some Iraqis as a just struggle against invaders, by others as futile fanaticism.

The compromise formula said: "Although resistance is a legitimate right of all peoples, terrorism however does not represent legitimate resistance, so we condemn terrorism and acts of violence, murder and kidnapping."

The Arab League, alarmed that Iraq is sliding towards chaos and civil war, called the politicians to prepare for a broader political meeting in Baghdad next February or March after legislative elections in December.

Fawzi al-Hariri, a Kurdish representative and Iraqi Foreign Ministry official, played down the language on resistance. "The agreement is as it is stated in the UN Charter, which says that every nation has the right to resist," he told Reuters.

"We do not believe there is a resistance because they lack any political ideology or strategy or aim," he said.

"If they exist, then we will be ready and interested to talk to them and hear their grievances, with the exception of the takfiris (religious extremists) who were imported into Iraq and those Baathists who have no other aim than reinstating the former Iraq," he said.

Earlier on Monday, delegates said the dispute over policy towards those fighting US-led forces in Iraq almost brought the conference to collapse.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BA0...06294EEB1F4.htm

They ask the women where did you hide the men, they grabbed the children from their hair and throw them to the ground. Riyadh’s mother was crying and begging them to leave her son; they hit her with the gun’s end, they smashed his head with a brick in front of her eyes, now she is dying. When his body was found it was skinned…

http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=1&p=18044&s2=21

Thanks for the link Boon, all very nice.

I've found this one too.

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And these ....

http://massgraves.info/

http://www.hobotraveler.com/122_07baghdad04.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3738368.stm

http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/pdf/iraq_mass_graves.pdf

http://www.kdp.pp.se/chemical.html

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/02/iraq99.htm#repression

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/830258/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/801826/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/790932/posts

Great.....dueling links....goes to show you that the internet has got something for everyone. Any idiot can find someone who agrees with...no encourages them. I'm going to start a topic.

Great.....dueling links....goes to show you that the internet has got something for everyone.  Any idiot can find someone who agrees with...no encourages them.  I'm going to start a topic.

Yeah, but everyone was off-topic after my initial post...

...except my buddy Spee.