New Airport At Samui

[spindle]

Today in Bangkok Post ..another study to be carried out for a new airport at Namuang.

Worth a read and should keep the TV forum red hot for a little while.

[itishothere]

You have to read the article itself, but it talks about the goverment wanting to increase competition, increase flights, reduce the monopoly etc. And also that they are considering entering into talks with Bangkok Airways about the ideas.

I know the general assumption is that BA will say no to everything and anything, but .....

The company aims to go public. That will make it a shedload of cash, but investors will be wary of the monopoly position and the future will be uncertain. Investors hate uncertainty.

Selling the aiport, or relinquishing control, or getting a new airport with a longer landing strip together with concessions blah blah blah could make BA a huge profit. Plenty to finance new planes, new routes, maybe even a new airport somewhere else giving it fantastic growth potential. Investors love growth potential.

It is only a matter of time before USM hits problems; why not solve them now, make a ton of money, tidy up the balance sheet for the floatation and put it on a par with other airlines around the world?

[Rooo]

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[Samui Coconut]

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Ooops, sorry!

[BangrakBob]

Can see this thread becoming the same old debate as in the many other dedicated and non-dedicated threads on this subject, which will inevitably descend in to BA are very naughty people

[insertmembernamehere]

You could paraphrase the sections you need to post without any problem.

[Samui Coconut]

Can see this thread becoming the same old debate as in the many other dedicated and non-dedicated threads on this subject, which will inevitably descend in to BA are very naughty people

Yeap, agree. They talk about a 2 billion Baht project and 1,490 Rai. (works out at 1,35 Mio per rai for land alone which is too cheap). Unless people give the land for free, but then we all now whats free on Samui

[Boater]

Can see this thread becoming the same old debate as in the many other dedicated and non-dedicated threads on this subject, which will inevitably descend in to BA are very naughty people

Yeap, agree. They talk about a 2 billion Baht project and 1,490 Rai. (works out at 1,35 Mio per rai for land alone which is too cheap). Unless people give the land for free, but then we all now whats free on Samui

unless it is a compulsory buy out based on the official Land Value from the Land Office

[Rooo]

Let you in on a little secret. Do you who & his friends in cabinet purchased most of the land around there?Seems very funny with the current government in power, that this raises it's head again.

[John 1]

Why not just forget about another airport even though it's needed, I would be happy with a bridge to the mainland and pay 500bt toll. Surely there would be investors for a project of this size and that would bring in bus loads of tourists.

[Boater]

Why not just forget about another airport even though it's needed, I would be happy with a bridge to the mainland and pay 500bt toll. Surely there would be investors for a project of this size and that would bring in bus loads of tourists.

or a tunnel ....

[Rooo]

Why not just forget about another airport even though it's needed, I would be happy with a bridge to the mainland and pay 500bt toll. Surely there would be investors for a project of this size and that would bring in bus loads of tourists.

or a tunnel ....

They can't even build a proper road & you want a tunnel?

[smokie36]

Hmmm just think if the new airport happens we will all have to slum it together on Air Asia or worse.

No more courtesy corner or free internet.

On the plus side we can have a decent bar at the airport....now that would be wothwhile!

[BangrakBob]

If there is enough usable land down there, would it be possible to have just the one airport and close the one we have now?

Just thinking of the impact it would have on Taling Ngam and Lipa Noi, potential ruination with development One of the last places you can go and feel the peace, enjoy the nature and see authentic Thai life going on....

[Rooo]

If there is enough usable land down there, would it be possible to have just the one airport and close the one we have now?

Just thinking of the impact it would have on Taling Ngam and Lipa Noi, potential ruination with development One of the last places you can go and feel the peace, enjoy the nature and see authentic Thai life going on....

Who cares about all that. Give me MONEY

[itishothere]

Let you in on a little secret. Do you who & his friends in cabinet purchased most of the land around there?Seems very funny with the current government in power, that this raises it's head again.

Who cares about all that. Give me MONEY

Are you implying that your are 'connected' in some way???

[Rooo]

Let you in on a little secret. Do you who & his friends in cabinet purchased most of the land around there?Seems very funny with the current government in power, that this raises it's head again.

Who cares about all that. Give me MONEY

Are you implying that your are 'connected' in some way???

I wish lol.

[PattayaPhom]

Its just a smokescreen to hide the real reason, people dont know that the 2024 olympics are being held there yet.

[Gatorade]

Let you in on a little secret. Do you who & his friends in cabinet purchased most of the land around there?Seems very funny with the current government in power, that this raises it's head again.

Who cares about all that. Give me MONEY

Are you implying that your are 'connected' in some way???

I wish lol.

A very good point Rooo. The last time HE was in power the DOA were running around the South of the Island trying to find sites. And funnily enough the ones most suitable (which are not anyway) were brought up by the Family and friends.

So, should we see high level changes in Govt. We can expect this can of worms to be re-opened.

The pity of it all is that the existing airport could, with a small runway re-alignment handle extra and long range traffic.

A new airport will devastate the remains of this once beautiful island and the infrastructure to support it will change things beyond all recognition.

Beside which the high ground around the proposed site will not allow a safe stabilised Instrument Approach approach for wide body aircraft.

[jcw]

To the people bitching about BA monopoly, you have an empty case.

It was a major step Forward for the island getting an airport. Non of the Governments would built it, so private company did to cater for their own craft.

Would you prefer to have no airport again?

A private company spent allot of money doing this, it is expected to get a return on its investment.

They do allow other companies to use it, nearly all airports in the world charge landing fees. Thai Airways also flies the route.

Like most here, I do smell a rat with the land sale issue discussed above though.

[oldsailor35]

Bangrak Bob, who would want to live near a new international airport. Anyhow, a bridge sounds good, i dont think its too deep out there and the Chinese have proved that they can build massive sea bridges.

[oldsailor35]

Why not buy out BA and extent the runway out into the bay. Samui really needs a runway to take large international aircraft.

[Rooo]

These are some random topics:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/503210-samui-residents-to-bid-for-new-airport-in-monopoly-challenge/page__st__25__p__4746746__hl__new%20airport#entry4746746

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/449807-plan-to-build-second-samui-airport-pushed/page__st__25__p__4279959__hl__new%20airport#entry4279959

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/388979-35000-against-bangkok-airways/page__st__50__p__3808442__hl__new%20airport#entry3808442

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/170996-2nd-airport-for-samui/page__p__1839429__hl__new%20airport#entry1839429

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/159391-new-airport-in-samui-true-or-false/page__p__1719241__hl__new%20airport#entry1719241

[Rooo]

These are some random topics:

http://www.thaivisa....rt#entry4746746

http://www.thaivisa....rt#entry4279959

http://www.thaivisa....rt#entry3808442

http://www.thaivisa....rt#entry1839429

http://www.thaivisa....rt#entry1719241

Most of the above references start midway through topic , so you have to go to first page.

Please note in them days we were allowed to quote Bangkok Post, but rest assured the link is not operational.

[marstons]

Why not buy out BA and extent the runway out into the bay. Samui really needs a runway to take large international aircraft.

Why and where would these large international aircraft come from direct to Samui? link already there for Hongkong, Singapore, Kula Lumper and Bangkok.

[Rooo]

If you have long haul flights coming in direct, I am sure they would need a lot more then what USM has to offer eg: servicing, fuel etc.......

[spindle]

Why not buy out BA and extent the runway out into the bay. Samui really needs a runway to take large international aircraft.

You would have to offsett the runway from the Threshold at the Southern end by about 10-15 degrees so that it would be more a NW alignment rather than Northerly.this would enable heavy departures to meet the obstacle clearance criteria (big Buddah and Koh Som). It would mean cutting through some areas of Bangrak and require traffic control across the main road. In my opinion very feasible and nothing that a good Civil engineer couldn't sort out..

[itishothere]

Why not buy out BA and extent the runway out into the bay. Samui really needs a runway to take large international aircraft.

You would have to offsett the runway from the Threshold at the Southern end by about 10-15 degrees so that it would be more a NW alignment rather than Northerly.this would enable heavy departures to meet the obstacle clearance criteria (big Buddah and Koh Som). It would mean cutting through some areas of Bangrak and require traffic control across the main road. In my opinion very feasible and nothing that a good Civil engineer couldn't sort out..

Ahhh ... traffic control. That, sadly, is where it all falls apart. Have you seen these guys at traffic lights? Or the roundabout? And some of them are pilots!

A whistle trying to control a 747-400?

[jamesbrock]

NVM.

Edited April 19, 2012 by jamesbrock

[smokie36]

Koh Samui....centre of the universe!