h90 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You'd think they would have learned by now. Nothing but contempt for the rule of law. They have learned, for sure....What do you think how much they can put in their pocket while you are writing that. What you think how many other cases could be avoided by some tea money in the last 6 month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 And amazing how big that family seems to be. I heard from at least 10-20 of them in key positions, police chief, Army leaders, MPs, two PMs. Ability to be politician must be in the genes. Three PMs, former-PM Thaksin + former-PM Somchai + PM-Yingluck, unless I'm mistaken ? Clearly a very talented family, nepotism being unthinkable, in Thailand. And that former PM with the head like a bull and who has passed away last year, wasn't he a family member of this corrupt family ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'm frankly amazed this even happened considering the control PTP has over most of the government these days. Maybe there's hope for Thailand yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 "The court initially sentenced Chinnicha to two months in jail but suspended the jail term for a year on the grounds that she has never been in prison. She was also fined Bt4,000" By the same logic, I can commit at least one crime and just get a slap on the wrist and a meaningless fine. Right, I'm off to rob a bank, who's with me?!?! And never likely to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konfuzed Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 am i the only one that finds the headline quite biased against a certain former PM? I mean former PM's daughter banned for false declaration would be as accurate, but obviously not as attention grabbing... i suppose all this thaksin bashing is good for reconciliation though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Another thieving Shinawatra scumbag. No suprises there. Following uncle footstep More like Uncle Footpad to use a British expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You'd think they would have learned by now. Nothing but contempt for the rule of law. They have learned, for sure....What do you think how much they can put in their pocket while you are writing that. What you think how many other cases could be avoided by some tea money in the last 6 month. Well, I doubt anyone in the Shinawatra household is falling over too worried that a niece got hoofed out. However, as I wrote earlier, how can a person be still indebted to someone if the money they lent you was illegally gained? Someone steals 100 baht from someones pocket, that someone lends me the money, the law comes along, nabs the thief and I return/have impounded my 100 baht. How on earth can I legally still owe the "someone/thief" 100 baht? That is all semantics, but still as far as I can see a very odd legal interpretation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Wow, this family is right up there with..................?????????????? Sorry but I cannot think of another family to compare to this one. Any suggestions ? The Ewings in Dallas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan michaud Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 In Chinnicha's argument to the Supreme Court, she said she thought she did not have declare the debt because the assets had been ordered seized by the Assets Examination Committee. Honest mistakes run in the family. How many of the family have been banned now? And amazing how big that family seems to be. I heard from at least 10-20 of them in key positions, police chief, Army leaders, MPs, two PMs. Ability to be politician must be in the genes. No, I think it's nepotism in the genes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Wow, this family is right up there with..................?????????????? Sorry but I cannot think of another family to compare to this one. Any suggestions ? I mentioned the Borgias on the previous page, I wonder if one of them is going to try for Pope in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 She should have given it to her driver has a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) am i the only one that finds the headline quite biased against a certain former PM? I mean former PM's daughter banned for false declaration would be as accurate, but obviously not as attention grabbing... i suppose all this thaksin bashing is good for reconciliation though.... The usual supporters will be along shortly. Edited as it gave the wrong impression Edited April 20, 2012 by Mosha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) am i the only one that finds the headline quite biased against a certain former PM? I mean former PM's daughter banned for false declaration would be as accurate, but obviously not as attention grabbing... i suppose all this thaksin bashing is good for reconciliation though.... Yes your are konfuzed Edited April 20, 2012 by MILT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Wow, this family is right up there with..................?????????????? Sorry but I cannot think of another family to compare to this one. Any suggestions ? I mentioned the Borgias on the previous page, I wonder if one of them is going to try for Pope in the future. pope on a rope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petertimo Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 The court initially sentenced Chinnicha to two months in jail but suspended the jail term for a year on the grounds that she has never been in prison. I especially like this comment. Does it mean suspended because she doesnt have a criminal record of just because she hasnt been before, its only fair that she doesnt go at all. LOL bless her. I wonder how anyone actually ends up in jail, if you don't have to go to jail because you never have been there before. Than no-one would have to go, as there will never be a first time, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You'd think they would have learned by now. Nothing but contempt for the rule of law. They have learned, for sure....What do you think how much they can put in their pocket while you are writing that. What you think how many other cases could be avoided by some tea money in the last 6 month. Well, I doubt anyone in the Shinawatra household is falling over too worried that a niece got hoofed out. However, as I wrote earlier, how can a person be still indebted to someone if the money they lent you was illegally gained? Someone steals 100 baht from someones pocket, that someone lends me the money, the law comes along, nabs the thief and I return/have impounded my 100 baht. How on earth can I legally still owe the "someone/thief" 100 baht? That is all semantics, but still as far as I can see a very odd legal interpretation. This is exactly what I'm getting from the OP, I must be missing something... How do you get "100 million baht seized" and then owe that same 100 million baht, when it's already been taken?! I guess now she owes 100,004,000 baht! Don't really understand the outcry, she failed to declare 100 million baht debt that she'd already had seized from her, then already owing 100 million baht, she's fined a further 4,000 baht!? Err... I won't even touch on the ridiculous reason given for suspending the jail term... that's priceless and one I will be sure to quote if ever in trouble with the BiB here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 There's obviously more to this than this article describes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potjaman_Na_Pombejra Transferring to relatives Bannapot Damapong, Potjaman Shinawatra’s brother-in law, was charged with wealth concealing of Shin Cop. Shares. Bannapot, co-founder of Shin Corp., was believed to own 1.62% of the company’s shares right from the beginning when the company turned public. Howeverm 10.75% was accused of being a nominee to Potjaman Shinawatra. The 10.75% is the separated into two sections. The first section worth of 1.62%, Bannapot used Potjaman’s money to buy the shares to increase his holdings. The 9.13% leftover was accused as being a fraud. The transaction made it look like that Bannapot was buying shares from Potjaman. But the promissory note for buying the shares was accused of being made up after the incident as the name of Potjaman was stated as “Lady Potjaman” where at the time of the transaction; her status was not yet a lady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnomick1 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 If you spread rumours that Phuket is doomed on 28.04.2012., you can be fined and/or imprisoned. If you are an MP and public servant who fails to disclose true assets or liabilities you can avoid imprisonment and get a paltry 4000 baht fine. AMAZING THAILAND as usual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Would it have all been equal if she had stated the debt as pending "further investigation and political developments". I borrow money from someone who is subsequently found guilty of having obtained the money in a dodgy manner, and have money seized from me, but legally I still owe the money back to him? Now if I had colluded to hide his assets surely that is just blatant fraud isn't it? Doesn't matter, when the reconciliation bill passes she can stick her nose right back in the trough. Precisely why I don't understand why the government can't see where this is going. Surely even they don't want to see a total disregard for rule of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted April 20, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) I don't understand why the government can't see where this is going. Surely even they don't want to see a total disregard for rule of law. Because they are all eating from the same trough It is blatantly obvious that the ''government'' is nothing more than a family gathering of relatives and friends who are rubber stamping all of Thaksins capricious whims so as to ensure a healthy on going dividend payment for the shares of Thaksinland incorporated. The criminal has now become the victim and the victim has now become the criminal. 'Twill be very interesting to see what crawls out of the woodwork and into the cabinet in May when the current political bans expire.The resultant power and position infighting could be extremely interesting and may with any luck be the death of this current maladministration. Edited April 20, 2012 by siampolee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) You'd think they would have learned by now. Nothing but contempt for the rule of law. They have learned, for sure....What do you think how much they can put in their pocket while you are writing that. What you think how many other cases could be avoided by some tea money in the last 6 month. Well, I doubt anyone in the Shinawatra household is falling over too worried that a niece got hoofed out. However, as I wrote earlier, how can a person be still indebted to someone if the money they lent you was illegally gained? Someone steals 100 baht from someones pocket, that someone lends me the money, the law comes along, nabs the thief and I return/have impounded my 100 baht. How on earth can I legally still owe the "someone/thief" 100 baht? That is all semantics, but still as far as I can see a very odd legal interpretation. She had it at the time she was running and elected and didn't DECLARE it. Debts can be used to leverage a politician into doing an action by the debt holder. So they must be declared. She could lose the whole thing next day, but she STILL failed to file a proper declaration. End of story. Edited April 20, 2012 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Wow, this family is right up there with..................?????????????? Sorry but I cannot think of another family to compare to this one. Any suggestions ? I mentioned the Borgias on the previous page, I wonder if one of them is going to try for Pope in the future. Lucrezia Shinawatra???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thaksin niece disqualified, banned from politics for filing false statement Congratulations, Chinnicha !! You're truly unique in the annals of Thai history. Your family is the first family to ever have the daughter (yourself), the mother, and the father, to all be simultaneously banned from politics. Well Done! To solidify your position in Thai history, we'll throw in your uncle as an extra member of your banned from politics clan. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thaksin niece disqualified, banned from politics for filing false statement Congratulations, Chinnicha !! You're truly unique in the annals of Thai history. Your family is the first family to ever have the daughter (yourself), the mother, and the father, to all be simultaneously banned from politics. Well Done! To solidify your position in Thai history, we'll throw in your uncle as an extra member of your banned from politics clan. . Very good observation, Buchholz: The unholy trinity, so to speak. Let's Thaksin out of the equation, because apart from having a different family name he's nothing but an unholy spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi41 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Give the poor girl a break, she is just doing the right Thai family thing. Her Moms ban from politics expires next month. "Wait a sec, by change a position just became vacant!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) The NACC learned of Chinnicha's Bt100 million debt to Bannapot Damapong Bannapot? Again?! Bannaphot, on the left alongside his sister in July 2008 at the Criminal Court He's Potjaman's brother and was involved in her tax evasion case as the recipient of 750 Million Baht from his sister. She claimed it was a wedding gift..... even though it was given 2 years after the wedding date. Now he's involved with shady financial dealings with family member Chinnicha. Wonderful clan dynasty they all are. . Edited April 20, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunHay Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 What does it means by two months imprisonment jailed term was suspended for a year and fine $4000 baht? Does it mean 4000 baht in exchange of freedom? A public figure should have doubled the penalty, not special treatment. Just throw her to jail for the sake of fairness !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Chinnicha, 31, a Puea Thai MP for Chiang Mai ah yes... she's a constituency MP. AFAIK, getting disqualified as she has, there will need to be a by-election in CM to replace her chair in the House and the cost of that election will be on her to pay. Not that it really matters to these millionaires and billionaires they have in the family clan, but the elections are quite costly and if nothing else, is a bit of poetic justice. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You'd think they would have learned by now. Nothing but contempt for the rule of law. They have learned, for sure....What do you think how much they can put in their pocket while you are writing that. What you think how many other cases could be avoided by some tea money in the last 6 month. Well, I doubt anyone in the Shinawatra household is falling over too worried that a niece got hoofed out. However, as I wrote earlier, how can a person be still indebted to someone if the money they lent you was illegally gained? Someone steals 100 baht from someones pocket, that someone lends me the money, the law comes along, nabs the thief and I return/have impounded my 100 baht. How on earth can I legally still owe the "someone/thief" 100 baht? That is all semantics, but still as far as I can see a very odd legal interpretation. No. It is possible that the thief gave the money from the other pocket that had money which he legitimately earned. You still owe the thief the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Don't worry. This simple misunderstanding will soon be cleared up. If all fails she will be included in the amnesty for non-repentant criminals with money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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