MAJIC Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Thanks for reminding me A few years ago in the very English county of Oxfordshire I was advised to take down a St Georges Flag I had hung from my window for the same event. God save the Queen ! And did you take it down? or tell them to go away in short jerky movements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marstons Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Thanks for reminding me A few years ago in the very English county of Oxfordshire I was advised to take down a St Georges Flag I had hung from my window for the same event. God save the Queen ! And did you take it down? or tell them to go away in short jerky movements? My local City pub as it is 365 day of the year, the local council would not dare, its as it should be a multi cultured pub with a good mixture of all who emrace their home country and DCFC, with at least a 50 strong party today, using up private holidays for what should be a national holiday. Edited April 23, 2012 by marstons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marstons Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The mystery is how St. George ever became patron saint of England. He was probably a Moor and he certainly never set foot in England. He's also the patron saint of Greece, Malta and Georgia to name a few. it is a strange one, just as strange that St Patrick was an Englishman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I admire parts of it from afar, some of it has changed out of all recognition to what I remember. Times change and it was time for me to remember as it was and move to a new life in a new land. Happy St George's Day to one and all. Just a thought are we patriotic to celebrate this day or are we to far away? PS No one tells me take down the White Ensign here. You serving in the Royal Navy then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Thanks for reminding me A few years ago in the very English county of Oxfordshire I was advised to take down a St Georges Flag I had hung from my window for the same event. God save the Queen ! And did you take it down? or tell them to go away in short jerky movements? My local City pub as it is 365 day of the year, the local council would not dare, its as it should be a multi cultured pub with a good mixture of all who emrace their home country and DCFC, with at least a 50 strong party today, using up private holidays for what should be a national holiday. I shall be walking past there in an hour's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I find it sad that Maestro starts a thread reminding us that it's the Patron Saint of England's day and the thread immediately descends to a bit of Asian bashing. I go into corner shops and sub post offices with my work every day and meet loads of Asians - Hindu, Sikh and Muslim and most of them are as proud of being English as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 looks more like political correctness in the UK-bashing to me. Bash away::::::::: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paangjang Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yes, happy St Georges Day. It actually means little to me now that I reside in Thailand. I do have fond memories of some very good celebrations back in the UK - but, I don't consider such celebrations to be part of my life anymore. It seems you have been "Acculturated" Oh My Buddha ! I sincerely hope not A true expat, many forget what the word expatriot actually means... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philatio Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Happy Saint Georges Day to you too! They probably cannot celebrate this in the UK these days for fear of hurting some minorities feelings! But good on you! Great to see that flag and wish you all the best! Let no one forget (at least what England once was- not what it has become) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Are we alloyed to have a St.Georges day. ? Sorry, but was St. George not English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Yai Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I would just like to wish a Happy St George's day to all* *except the far-right who have misused our flag and the far-left who think we should all now be ashamed of it Could you please be more explicit in explaining how the "far right" have misused our national flag? , there would be no problem in the first place if various left wing councils did not order our flag to be taken down just in case the ethnic minorities are some how "offended" by it, thus inflaming the local indigenous white Christian population by this insane politically correct ruling ,BTW happy St Georges day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philatio Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Are we alloyed to have a St.Georges day. ? Sorry, but was St. George not English. He is technically the Patron Saint of England...so he'll do I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Happy Saint Georges Day to you too! They probably cannot celebrate this in the UK these days for fear of hurting some minorities feelings! But good on you! Great to see that flag and wish you all the best! Let no one forget (at least what England once was- not what it has become) We can and do.Don't believe everything you read in the Daily Mail. They make a lot of it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Are we alloyed to have a St.Georges day. ? Sorry, but was St. George not English. He is technically the Patron Saint of England...so he'll do I suppose! He was from Syria Palaestinia - present day Israel. No real link to England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkokhatter Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Happy St Georges day, think Philatio hit the nail on the head, best remember how great England and the UK as a whole was, not what it has become. I will be having a couple of beers later to celebrate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The mystery is how St. George ever became patron saint of England. He was probably a Moor and he certainly never set foot in England. He's also the patron saint of Greece, Malta and Georgia to name a few. it is a strange one, just as strange that St Patrick was an Englishman St. Patrick was Welsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Are we alloyed to have a St.Georges day. ? Sorry, but was St. George not English. He is technically the Patron Saint of England...so he'll do I suppose! He was from Syria Palaestinia - present day Israel. No real link to England. Thought he was also a Muslim, but l could be wrong, l am not in a search mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Are we alloyed to have a St.Georges day. ? Sorry, but was St. George not English. He is technically the Patron Saint of England...so he'll do I suppose! He was from Syria Palaestinia - present day Israel. No real link to England. Thought he was also a Muslim, but l could be wrong, l am not in a search mood. He was a Christian matrtyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I admire parts of it from afar, some of it has changed out of all recognition to what I remember. Times change and it was time for me to remember as it was and move to a new life in a new land. Happy St George's Day to one and all. Just a thought are we patriotic to celebrate this day or are we to far away? PS No one tells me take down the White Ensign here. Unless you are living in a commissioned ship or shore establishment of the Royal Navy you are not entitled to wear the White Ensign. A gunboat, if the UK has any left these days, is on its way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) I admire parts of it from afar, some of it has changed out of all recognition to what I remember. Times change and it was time for me to remember as it was and move to a new life in a new land. Happy St George's Day to one and all. Just a thought are we patriotic to celebrate this day or are we to far away? PS No one tells me take down the White Ensign here. You serving in the Royal Navy then? Its Pussers for me if you are asking! Edited April 23, 2012 by nong38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The mystery is how St. George ever became patron saint of England. He was probably a Moor and he certainly never set foot in England. He's also the patron saint of Greece, Malta and Georgia to name a few. Ghosh thanks for that KB, not a total surprise but who do you think should be the Patron Saint then? How about St Horatio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) I admire parts of it from afar, some of it has changed out of all recognition to what I remember. Times change and it was time for me to remember as it was and move to a new life in a new land. Happy St George's Day to one and all. Just a thought are we patriotic to celebrate this day or are we to far away? PS No one tells me take down the White Ensign here. You serving in the Royal Navy then? I got the flag in Plymouth, 2 actually as I am big admirer of the Royal Navy and what is stands for( or should I say did 21 surface ships hardly rules the waves anymore) but I have the greatsest admiration for all our services, best in the world, still.PS Its Pussers for me if you are asking! Strictly speaking you require permission from the Admiralty to fly a White Ensign over a civilian building. From Wiki "United Kingdom The White Ensign flying from St Martin-in-the-Fields church in Trafalgar Square, London. Royal Navy ships and submarines wear the White Ensign at all times when underway. The White Ensign may also be worn on a gaff, and may be shifted to the starboard yardarm when at sea. When alongside, the White Ensign is worn at the stern, with the Union Flag at the bow, during daylight hours. The White Ensign is worn at the mastheads when Royal Navy ships are dressed on special occasions such as the Queen's birthday, and may be similarly be worn by foreign warships in British waters when dressed in honour of a British holiday or when firing a salute to British authorities. The White Ensign may also be worn by the boats of commissioned ships. Yachts of the Royal Yacht Squadron and ships escorting the Sovereign are also permitted to wear the White Ensign. Brunel's SS Great Britain, although a merchant ship, appears to have worn (and still wears, in dry dock) the White Ensign, apparently because its first master (an ex-Royal Navy man) brought it with him. On land, the White Ensign is flown at all naval shore establishments (which are commissioned warships), including all Royal Marines establishments. Permission has been granted to some other buildings with naval connections to fly the White Ensign.[2] This includes the St Martin-in-the-Fields church in Trafalgar Square, London, which is the church of the parish of the Admiralty. The Ensign is also displayed on the Cenotaph alongside the Union Flag (for the British Army) and the Royal Air Force Ensign. Special permission was granted to any individual or body to fly the White Ensign to mark Trafalgar Day in 2006.[3] The US destroyer Winston S. Churchill is the only US warship to fly the White Ensign along with the Stars and Stripes to honour its British namesake." Edited April 23, 2012 by endure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Here's a slice of truth amongst all the nonsense: "The Flag Protocol of the United Kingdom The national flags of the United Kingdom (ie. the Union Flag and the flags of England, Scotland and Wales) should be displayed only in a dignified manner befitting the national emblems. They should not be displayed in a position inferior to any other flag or ensign. It is improper to use the national flags as a table or seat cover or as a masking for boxes, barriers, or the intervening space between a dais or platform and the floor. The use of any of the national flags to cover a statue, monument or plaque for an unveiling ceremony is discouraged. The First Union Flag Flying the Flag Flags may be flown on every day of the year. Government and local authority buildings in England, Scotland and Wales are encouraged to fly national flags every day of the year (the flying of flags at certain locations in Northern Ireland is constrained by The Flags Regulations [Northern Ireland] 2000 and Police Emblems and Flag Regulations [Northern Ireland] 2002).[2] Flags are normally flown from sunrise to sunset but they may also be flown at night, when they should be illuminated. No permission is needed to fly the national flags and they are excluded from most planning and advertising regulations (but flagpoles may not be). National flags should never be flown in a worn or damaged condition, or when soiled. To do so is to show disrespect for the nations they represent. Important: the Union Flag has a correct way up - in the half of the flag nearest the flagpole, the wider diagonal white stripe must be above the red diagonal stripe, as Scotland’s St Andrew’s Cross takes precedence over Ireland’s St. Patrick’s Cross. It is most improper to fly the flag upside down. If a purely decorative effect is desired it is better to confine the display to flags of lesser status; for example, house flags, pennants or coloured bunting." http://www.flaginstitute.org/index.php?location=7.1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkokhatter Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I was very proud to serve in the Royal Navy and it saddens me to see it become a shadow of its former self, but the memories never fade, but as successive governments have eroded our once great armed forces, they have also eroded all our great traditions and turned the country into a shell of it's former self. Time for Singha, am thinking too much 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Posts containing overly racist or overly derogatory comments have been removed. Don't embark on a bashing campaign here. 5) Not to post inflammatory messages on the forum, or attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants, or trolling.Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. 7) Not to post slurs or degrading comments directed towards any group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I find it sad that Maestro starts a thread reminding us that it's the Patron Saint of England's day and the thread immediately descends to a bit of Asian bashing. I go into corner shops and sub post offices with my work every day and meet loads of Asians - Hindu, Sikh and Muslim and most of them are as proud of being English as I am. Thank you for seeing and the saying the reality................. We might be a bit tribal, but we are a group, a community, a diverse people and a Nation and that is our history and the strength. Be proud and good. Pity about the rugby though.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The mystery is how St. George ever became patron saint of England. He was probably a Moor and he certainly never set foot in England. He's also the patron saint of Greece, Malta and Georgia to name a few. Ghosh thanks for that KB, not a total surprise but who do you think should be the Patron Saint then? How about St Horatio? Hmmmm.......difficult to say. My choice would be Alfred the Great. He saved England from becoming a part of Denmark. Trouble is, is that a saint has to be connected to the Christian religion and has preferably died in a horrible way for their beliefs. Thomas More, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The mystery is how St. George ever became patron saint of England. He was probably a Moor and he certainly never set foot in England. He's also the patron saint of Greece, Malta and Georgia to name a few. Ghosh thanks for that KB, not a total surprise but who do you think should be the Patron Saint then? How about St Horatio? Hmmmm.......difficult to say. My choice would be Alfred the Great. He saved England from becoming a part of Denmark. Trouble is, is that a saint has to be connected to the Christian religion and has preferably died in a horrible way for their beliefs. Thomas More, perhaps? Ah, Thomas Moore, had the privilege of saying a few words, whilst having my hand on his his tomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I was very proud to serve in the Royal Navy and it saddens me to see it become a shadow of its former self, but the memories never fade, but as successive governments have eroded our once great armed forces, they have also eroded all our great traditions and turned the country into a shell of it's former self. Time for Singha, am thinking too much All one can do is what one can do. Think not ... etc. It distresses me that so many of my compatriots have allowed their anglophobia to compromise our great state comprising several nations, and I hope that they see sense when the independence vote comes. As I have said elsewhere, our anglophobia would be more credible if we had fewer English friends. To put one thing straight - much as it pains me - I am delighted that England did so well in the Six Nations this year. They had a great team of young lads, and that we did not beat them this year was to our tremendous shame - specifically that we did not protect Dan Parks when he was clearing from our own try line. But from now on, I expect we will be beaten for the next few years, rather than having to lose it for ourselves.... Personally, out of interest in irony and support for the underdog, I am looking forward to Georgia;'s first win against England, though I suppose if I want to see that I should take more care of my health.... SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The mystery is how St. George ever became patron saint of England. He was probably a Moor and he certainly never set foot in England. He's also the patron saint of Greece, Malta and Georgia to name a few. Ghosh thanks for that KB, not a total surprise but who do you think should be the Patron Saint then? How about St Horatio? Why would you change? Would you change your mother, as well? SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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