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maybe if you said why then you might get some answers.

If looking for jobs, I think you will find most are recruited from overseas and then sent here

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maybe if you said why then you might get some answers.

If looking for jobs, I think you will find most are recruited from overseas and then sent here

Most but not all...wink.png

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Buddy has been offered a job with one and was just wondering about reputation. Best as PM due to Mods' name-and-shame paranoia. Thanks.

Send me a PM

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The reputations of any of the local E&P companies are mostly sound and I am not aware of any pariahs in this neck of the oilpatch. There's probably some less than stellar expatriates on their payrolls but hey, look at the quality of teachers that LOS attracts.

Bizarre request IMHO.

Regarding the question on 'international oil companies in south east Asia', apart from the 'biggies' there are several local 'minnows' that maintain offices and hold exploration or production permits in more than one south east Asian country.

Greenfields construction in the southeast Asian oil patch... did we skip the brownfields completely!

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I dunno about worrying about reputation, we aren't in Nigeria here.

If they don't ask for money in advance (visa processing fees, WP, etc...) then it's legit.

PM me too if you want.

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I'd love to get a job with a SE Asian oil company doing something involving IT. Even starting in a junior role. It seems very hard to find legitimate information though.

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I'd love to get a job with a SE Asian oil company doing something involving IT. Even starting in a junior role. It seems very hard to find legitimate information though.

All the SE Asian oil companies I have worked for, be it Bangkok, KL, Jakarta or Saigon, use young local lads for their in-house IT stuff. They are pretty good and two-a-penny.

Now, if you are a step above the local office type IT worker bee and can develop some bit of IT wizardry or programming that an oil company will pay loadsa cash for, then you are talking. Would you rather be living in a Bangkok shoebox apartment and commuting Mon-Fri, 9-5 and forever 'fixing' some stroppy farang bosses email 'issues' or like me, would you prefer to be sitting on the verandah overlooking the plantation, sipping Blanton's and maintaining a $25,000 per-license bit of code that I cobbled together for half a dozen local E&P companies?

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The reputations of any of the local E&P companies are mostly sound and I am not aware of any pariahs in this neck of the oilpatch. There's probably some less than stellar expatriates on their payrolls but hey, look at the quality of teachers that LOS attracts.

I know quite a few expats working for "local" E&P companies and they are very good at what they do, please dont use the comparison of "English teachers" in Thailand

Futher Brownfield, Greenfield....???...what are you babbling on about....

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I'd love to get a job with a SE Asian oil company doing something involving IT. Even starting in a junior role. It seems very hard to find legitimate information though.

All the SE Asian oil companies I have worked for, be it Bangkok, KL, Jakarta or Saigon, use young local lads for their in-house IT stuff. They are pretty good and two-a-penny.

Now, if you are a step above the local office type IT worker bee and can develop some bit of IT wizardry or programming that an oil company will pay loadsa cash for, then you are talking. Would you rather be living in a Bangkok shoebox apartment and commuting Mon-Fri, 9-5 and forever 'fixing' some stroppy farang bosses email 'issues' or like me, would you prefer to be sitting on the verandah overlooking the plantation, sipping Blanton's and maintaining a $25,000 per-license bit of code that I cobbled together for half a dozen local E&P companies?

Agree. For the majors, the only IT folks in zone offices are desktop support people, usually locals. All strategy, development, deployment takes place at HQ.

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To get into the business now, you either have to have experience in a specialist position, or, if you are a newbie, then you must have a degree in the right subject from a good university; the Colorado School of Mines being the best.

The days of getting a job through a friend if you have no experience is well and truly over.

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The reputations of any of the local E&P companies are mostly sound and I am not aware of any pariahs in this neck of the oilpatch. There's probably some less than stellar expatriates on their payrolls but hey, look at the quality of teachers that LOS attracts.

I know quite a few expats working for "local" E&P companies and they are very good at what they do, please dont use the comparison of "English teachers" in Thailand

Futher Brownfield, Greenfield....???...what are you babbling on about....

Now, now Soutpeel, you panties are showing; I used the generic 'teachers' and only you have lowered the bar to specifically pigeon-hole 'English teachers'. Agreed? There's no way someone of your height and haircut could ever be confused for a TEFL'er. Is there?

Based on my 'global' experience, there's not a lot of... shall we say depth in the quality of expats dipping their toes in Thailand's oil and gas waters? The brightest stars quickly realize that it's a bit of a professional backwater and the lure of great cuisine, superb weather, cheap accommodation, temples and other 'cultural activities' eventually wears thin. I have found the ones that do hang about tend to acquiesce into the Thai working style of mundane mediocrity that comes from not rocking the boat, not thinking outside the box, not sticking ones neck out or, more commonly, not calling out a fellow oxygen waster. However, that's not unique to Thailand. I gave up after only 12 months of being the token white-skinned 'consultant' for Malaysia's state-owned, twin-tower of nepotism and sycophancy.

Regards the color-coded references... maybe ask the one who posted a query about them? Myself? I am more of a red or blue rather than beige or taupe.

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To get into the business now, you either have to have experience in a specialist position, or, if you are a newbie, then you must have a degree in the right subject from a good university; the Colorado School of Mines being the best.

The days of getting a job through a friend if you have no experience is well and truly over.

All very salient points. The industry has shot itself in both feet by not encouraging a long-term future in the earth sciences. One foot they shot is they have under-invested in their primary 'source rock', the graduate engineer. They would hire when the prices were high but just as quickly fire when the oil price rollercoaster went the other way. Most post-graduates would have acquired their first mortgage or even started a family and then suddenly found themselves laid off. So they went and got a second degree and became office furniture.

As a consequence of this lack of people investment, the other foot which was induction into the business on the recommendation of a friend, has vaporized. Think of it; how many 25 year-old post-graduates have 55 year-old friends let alone 55 year-old friends in the business.

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When I worked both in Bangkok and offshore (Benchamas) 2000 to 2003 the expat to Thai employment ratio blew out from about 1 in 5, to 1 in 8 or more. It must be a greater ratio now as set by the Thai governing bodies. Multinationals are not going to employ Farang when there is the slightest chance a Thai can do the job and some of them are good. Even back then we had one Thai close to getting an OIM position, he did stand in at times.

Also back then one had to have exceptional skills and experience in their vocation, most were hired through 3rd party international labour companies like Brunel. OK, the Thais could get in on the 'Buddy' system but I know of only two cases where it applied to expats and that was short term through a major upgrade.

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I'd love to get a job with a SE Asian oil company doing something involving IT. Even starting in a junior role. It seems very hard to find legitimate information though.

All the SE Asian oil companies I have worked for, be it Bangkok, KL, Jakarta or Saigon, use young local lads for their in-house IT stuff. They are pretty good and two-a-penny.

Now, if you are a step above the local office type IT worker bee and can develop some bit of IT wizardry or programming that an oil company will pay loadsa cash for, then you are talking. Would you rather be living in a Bangkok shoebox apartment and commuting Mon-Fri, 9-5 and forever 'fixing' some stroppy farang bosses email 'issues' or like me, would you prefer to be sitting on the verandah overlooking the plantation, sipping Blanton's and maintaining a $25,000 per-license bit of code that I cobbled together for half a dozen local E&P companies?

I have done a few years as a .Net developer. I work in IT security now, specifically quality testing our antivirus and web based management products. I use my programming skills to write automated tests and analyse horse races in my spare time smile.png

I can do all my work remotely these days so maybe in the future i can carry on but from a Thai location. I would tell you how i'm a very smart individual too, but that's what everyone says isn't it.

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