Yellow Shirt Leader Karun's Long Haul In Bid To Dodge Arrest

[phiphidon]

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

Correct PPD, you weren't talking about red-shirt leaders, just about the normal red-shirts (in a topic on a yellow-shirt leader). Mind you, lots although not all of those red-shirts were jailed after some minor offences like burning down townhalls and the like. In such cases the approach of "let me write down your particulars and we'll mail you the fine or date for the court session" would seem somewhat hilarious. Even in Europe that doesn't always work

And a lot more were people who just happened to get rounded up and jailed for being in breach of the emergency decree, an heinous offence. Don't you find asking the leaders of the PAD occupation of the airports ( a terrorism offense) to turn up at the police station to be charged a dam_n sight more hilarious, even more so when you are sentenced after court appearances to a couple of years prison and then immediately bailed whilst you sort out an appeal?

My dear phiphidon, you complained about a reply because you weren't talking about red-shirt leaders. I replied on red-shirts. To now ask me how I find yellow-shirt leader handling compared to red-shirts, is not really consistent.

To be sure if you'd ask me what I think of the way both yellow and red shirt leaders are handled with common shirts in jail and with all upset and trying to get leaders bailed, or released or even voted in as MP, my answer would be clear: disgusted!

Slightly disingenuous rubl, I wasn't replying to you when "complaining about a reply" but I'll ignore that and ask you if you feel that the yellow shirts en masse (not separating out leaders or supporters) are treated differently to the red shirt supporters, keeping in mind there is only one yellow shirt person incarcerated to date and that is Veera in a Cambodian prison.

Now can you honestly tell me the red shirts have been treated in the same judicial way as the yellow shirts, be they leaders or rank and file?

[phl]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

HUH? so they went through all that trouble ONLY to release him because he rejected the accusations?

i am confused, really!!! so does that mean if i ever get arrested and reject all the accusations, i will be set free?

just does not make much sense

The other paper explains it better in that he was released at the prosecutor's behest, as he was only required to acknowledge the charges placed against him...the same procedure encountered in other criminal cases.

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Except those encountered in the red shirt cases...............

got to pick the winning team or the team with best connections nothing wrong with that, as there are always winner and loosers

[Buchholz]

Many of the Red Shirt Leaders were fugitives for months and months and received bail in short order.

snip examples of red shirt leaders

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

Sorry, this being a thread about a PAD Leader, I thought you were comparing like with like.

Instead, you were just veering off-topic then.

Got it.

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This is a clear case of double standards.

The double standards is the difference between Red Shirt Leaders treatment and everyday Red Shirts.

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[rubl]

Slightly disingenuous rubl, I wasn't replying to you when "complaining about a reply" but I'll ignore that and ask you if you feel that the yellow shirts en masse (not separating out leaders or supporters) are treated differently to the red shirt supporters, keeping in mind there is only one yellow shirt person incarcerated to date and that is Veera in a Cambodian prison.

Now can you honestly tell me the red shirts have been treated in the same judicial way as the yellow shirts, be they leaders or rank and file?

Without stating the assumptions on which you base a possible comparition of yellow and red shirts and how they have been treated by the judicial system, I cannot answer your question, honestly. Neither do I see much value in comparing red/yellow shirts as such. Very simplisticly said, the yellow shirts were mostly an ad-hoc group with most going on with their normal life after goal reached (get rid of Thaksin and his proxy governments), their leaders a different kettle of fish. The red shirts are partially original grassroots very concerned about democracy, some red-shirts are more black shirt and I won't bother you with how I personally look upon UDD leaders.

Another possible question would be how to view the red-shirt / UDD leader approach on trying trying to bail out their incarcerated other leaders and only complaining that so many normal red-shirts were jailed (and leaving them in jail). Can't ask this about the yellows, not applicable.

All have been treated in the same judicial way, but some may not have been formally charged, or may not have had the means to bail themselves. Of course after real violence normal cannon fodder rots in jail and leaders celibrate

Edited May 14, 2012 by rubl

[Buchholz]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

HUH? so they went through all that trouble ONLY to release him because he rejected the accusations?

i am confused, really!!! so does that mean if i ever get arrested and reject all the accusations, i will be set free?

just does not make much sense

The other paper explains it better in that he was released at the prosecutor's behest, as he was only required to acknowledge the charges placed against him...the same procedure encountered in other criminal cases.

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Except those encountered in the red shirt cases...............

PAD Leaders are encountering the same treatment that the cases involving Red Shirt Leaders received.

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[Buchholz]

HUH? so they went through all that trouble ONLY to release him because he rejected the accusations?

i am confused, really!!! so does that mean if i ever get arrested and reject all the accusations, i will be set free?

just does not make much sense

The other paper explains it better in that he was released at the prosecutor's behest, as he was only required to acknowledge the charges placed against him...the same procedure encountered in other criminal cases.

.

Except those encountered in the red shirt cases...............

So he acknowledged the charges, rejected them and then is set free - any bail mentioned? Yes, the same procedure as used in other criminal cases, my A!

Read more than a one line Tweet from MCOT about procedures used in Thailand and and then perhaps you won't sound so quite uninformed.

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Edited May 14, 2012 by Buchholz

[Bagwan]

Red shirts, yellow shirts - who cares? This has degenerated into something like a couple of kids arguing over a toffee apple. What I want to know is did the pickup truck also get bail?

[KKvampire]

What charges against the yellow shirt leader? What court or prosecutor has levied charges?

Thet same court and judiciary that has allowed jatuporn and other proven red criminals of the UDD to go unpunished.

Fact is the law establishment and the current government have become one and a slope that Thailand may not recover from

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Fear not, the wheels of Thai justice grind slowly but they grind exceptionally... nah, they can't grind for s**t.

Ah the much vaunted justice system - Lauded to the heavens when khun abhisit was in town and now the running dog lackeys of the PTP.......

When you have government that makes no effort to catch a fugitive criminal ex PM . yes they are lackeys, The last government under Abhisit made every effort to enforce the law with Takky running from country to country to avoid extradition. This squalid lot thinks its thug Buddy leaders in the UUD are above the law along with the puppet master overseas, Whos the hypocrite now PPDon?

Edited May 14, 2012 by KKvampire

[Semper]

This should result in denial of bail since he is clearly a flight risk...betcha he gets bail.

He also stated that he would not request bail

[Semper]

24 hours in a car.

I wonder how he release himself? Stopping at the roadside.

Not sure, but he look rather 'relieved' in this pic.

[FOODLOVER]

24 hours in a car.

I wonder how he release himself? Stopping at the roadside.

Not sure, but he look rather 'relieved' in this pic.

He really does!

[phiphidon]

Ah the much vaunted justice system - Lauded to the heavens when khun abhisit was in town and now the running dog lackeys of the PTP.......

When you have government that makes no effort to catch a fugitive criminal ex PM . yes they are lackeys, The last government under Abhisit made every effort to enforce the law with Takky running from country to country to avoid extradition. This squalid lot thinks its thug Buddy leaders in the UUD are above the law along with the puppet master overseas, Whos the hypocrite now PPDon?

"The last government under Abhisit made every effort to enforce the law with Takky running from country to country to avoid extradition."

You may wish to reconsider the "effort" the abhisit government expended on the "hunt" for Thaksin

Now the truth that had been kept secret during the two and a half years when the Democrat-led government was in power has finally come to light when new Foreign Minister Surapong Towijakchaikul revealed that ousted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was never on the wanted list of International Police, or Interpol, from the start...............

...................Why the Democrat-led government did not speak the truth from the get go but lied to everyone that that the Interpol was still on his tail for over two years. Now that the truth has surfaced, it also reveals the true nature of the previous government, the police, the public prosecutor and the DSI.

http://www.thailando...?DataID=1046931

As soon as this parliamentary session has finished and parliamentary immunity is no longer applicable those UDD leaders that are covered by such immunity will be once again subject to the judicial process. You may recall UDD leaders have already been in jail and are currently on bail awaiting hearings.

Can you tell me exactly how many yellow shirts, leaders or otherwise have ever set foot inside a jail despite being charged with the same offences in many cases? It shouldn't take you long.

Now what was that you said about hypocrisy?.........................

[phiphidon]

The other paper explains it better in that he was released at the prosecutor's behest, as he was only required to acknowledge the charges placed against him...the same procedure encountered in other criminal cases.

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Except those encountered in the red shirt cases...............

So he acknowledged the charges, rejected them and then is set free - any bail mentioned? Yes, the same procedure as used in other criminal cases, my A!

Read more than a one line Tweet from MCOT about procedures used in Thailand and and then perhaps you won't sound so quite uninformed.

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It was just a summary but as far as I understand he was shown a warrant for his arrest for terrorism charges. He proceeds to lock himself in his pickup. His pickup with him in it is driven 300kms to a police HQ where he refuses to sign documents to acknowledge the charge of terrorism because he says that they are "unlawful". The Police than ask the courts for a warrant to search his car. The court says it cannot raise a warrant to search a pickup? The police then get a locksmith to open the door. He then gets out and says he will only speak in front of a court so he is released. He is then due in court (today?) to hear the charges against him.

Have I got that right? In your wisdom of all things pertaining to Thai Jouristic procedures is this a normal procedure?