Retirement Or Married Extension With A Police Caution

[PeeJay1959]

Ok, I'm 52 and got a police caution 18 months ago for common assault here in the uk, nothing major, just pushed someone infront of a police officer. I'm not usually like that and it was a first offence and seemed a bit harsh. I'm married to a Thai lady and planning to move to Thailand soon. The money requirments of both types of extension are easily met, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that on a retirement extension they do a criminal record check, so the question is would a retirement extension be refused and I be better off going down the married route and all the extra hassle they come with each year?

[Colabamumbai]

If you do it in Thailand, no background check is necessary. Also you may want to have your record expunged/pardoned, in the U.K.

[Jingthing]

No such check for retirement extensions in Thailand. For O-A visas from your home country, yes a check. No need whatsoever to start with an O-A visa.

[Lite Beer]

As said when applying in Thailand there are

no Police or Medical checks.

[simple1]

A police caution? - not charged and arrested - no problem

[Javabear]

A police caution? - not charged and arrested - no problem

Ok, for general information purposes, what if he had been charged/arrested but not convicted?

[Mario2008]

You are presumed innocent until proven guilty, so it should not show.

[PeeJay1959]

Thanks, I was arrested and charged and received the caution at the police station, they advised me I now had a criminal record which would show up on crb checks. Ok so if i apply for a retirement extension there are no checks made then?

Chock Dee

[Jingthing]

Thanks, I was arrested and charged and received the caution at the police station, they advised me I now had a criminal record which would show up on crb checks. Ok so if i apply for a retirement extension there are no checks made then?

Chock Dee

You've asked a different question now.

O-A visas in your home country -- you must supply a police report

Retirement extensions in Thailand -- no police report needed

Checks made? Certainly these "checks" are made behind the scenes. In general, they are looking for FUGITIVES on the run from the law. You have a small record, you're not on the run.

[puchooay]

If you do it in Thailand, no background check is necessary. Also you may want to have your record expunged/pardoned, in the U.K.

Police cautions in the UK are only on record for 1 year anyway.

[Javabear]

OK, I had a little run in with the law in the US about 10 years ago. Felony level but adjutacation was withheld if I met certain conditions which I did with no issues. Any issues with visas there?

[ubonjoe]

OK, I had a little run in with the law in the US about 10 years ago. Felony level but adjutacation was withheld if I met certain conditions which I did with no issues. Any issues with visas there?

No problem with OA visa because what you get for that is police certificate which in most states will be a wants or warrants check. A criminal back ground check might show it but that is only required if you want to be a teacher or apply for permanent residency.

[lopburi3]

Regardless of any report content the following is the law in general:

11. According to the Immigration Act of Thailand B.E. 2522 (1979), foreigners who fall into any of the following categories are prohibited to enter Thailand:

(6) Having been imprisoned by judgment of the Thai Court; or by lawful injunction or judgment of the Court of a foreign country, except for when the penalty is for a petty offence, or negligence, or is provided for as an exception by the Ministerial Regulations.

[Jingthing]

OK, this is getting interesting. Hypothetical question, not about me.

Suppose a person who has served some years in prison for a more major offense retires to Thailand, never gets an O-A, and starts with retirement extensions. Never of course needs to submit a police report. It is known that at least at some offices like Pattaya, there are immigration staff looking into the backgrounds of foreigners legally staying in Thailand. So supposing they find out about this hypothetical ex-con. Is he booted out or not? Because I've never heard a report like that in the press. Only that immigration has detected a fugitive, not an EX-con.

[lopburi3]

Do not believe action would be taken without a police report (someone making a complaint). But by law entry into Thailand would have been illegal (which is the normal broad blanket of Thai law). Suspect most people would not be effected but as is said only death and taxs are sure bets in this world.

[PeeJay1959]

So why on the Thai Embassy website is there this?

http://www.thaiconsul-uk.com/download.aspx?id=20120222140536

http://www.thaiconsul-uk.com/download.aspx?id=20110922090441

[Lite Beer]

So why on the Thai Embassy website is there this?

http://www.thaiconsu...=20120222140536

The Link goes nowhere.

[lopburi3]

Actually (if you know it is Hull and you have to download to read - at least second time I hit it) it goes to police check requirement for O-A and teaching visas. No police report is required for extensions of stay in Thailand.

[Mario2008]

A police clearance is required for teachers and for applying for an O-A visa (which is for retirement). Otherwise it is normally not checked, although there is increasing co-operation bewteen countries to exchange data on wanted criminals, terrorist suspects and sex-offenders to name a few.

[Lite Beer]

Yep. just noticed. It opens a Word document.

[ubonjoe]

Just had a look starting at http://www.police.uk/ and found that you can spend 10 pounds and get a report that would tell you what records they have on you (found of the met. police website under advice). It might give you some piece of mind if it showed nothing.

For such a minor offense you will have no problem getting a non-o visa and then an extension here.