Woman Gunned Down At Phuket Market

[maipompui]

Latest news on another news source is that the police are looking for the foreign boyfriend who was caught on CCTV fleeing the scene.

Yes, they are looking for him, but apparently he was not directly involved in the shooting.

Would this mean one person less for the TV party?

Yes they are looking for him...but he was not on CCTV...

[dighambara]

Sorry, but do we know that the lady was killed, I cannot see it in the report.

you are correct it only says she was gunned down not the outcome, I have lived in thailand for only two weeks and am shocked at the number and variety of attacks on people, shootings, stabbings, muggings you name it have read about it.

That has less to do with being in Thailand and more to do with what you read. In your home country you probably didn't read things that concentrated on all the seamy news and those things meant to stir up the unwashed masses.

The Thai News is pretty good at printing crimes for all to read unlike the West where many crimes you never hear about...

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Search Google for statistics on gun crimes - Thailand has 180% of the gun crimes of the USA - a country where anyone may own a gun.

However, this was a 'Hit' - someone hired those thugs to kill her.

Yes, Thai news love the grotesque and foreign media avoids many subjects - like US media avoids questions on Obama's parentage - that he is inelligible to hold office.

[KarenBravo]

Latest news on another news source is that the police are looking for the foreign boyfriend who was caught on CCTV fleeing the scene.

Nope....read it again....

Maybe you should read it again. It quite clearly says he was seen on a "security camera". How is that different from CCTV?

The woman died, by the way.

[jimbeam1]

Anyone want to play Chinese wihspers?

jb1

[maipompui]

Latest news on another news source is that the police are looking for the foreign boyfriend who was caught on CCTV fleeing the scene.

Nope....read it again....

Maybe you should read it again. It quite clearly says he was seen on a "security camera". How is that different from CCTV?

The woman died, by the way.

Is this the news that you are quoting from?

As the search for the British man and the Thai woman began, police revealed that the three shooting suspects were shown on a security camera fleeing the central Phuket shooting.

[ydraw]

That truism (2nd most dangerous......) can be filed alongside the myth that the Great Wall of China can be seen from Space (it can't).

Actually it can. The myth is that it can be seen from the moon, which is definitely false. It can be seen from low earth orbit, but then so can a lot of things.

[KarenBravo]

Latest news on another news source is that the police are looking for the foreign boyfriend who was caught on CCTV fleeing the scene.

Nope....read it again....

Maybe you should read it again. It quite clearly says he was seen on a "security camera". How is that different from CCTV?

The woman died, by the way.

Is this the news that you are quoting from?

As the search for the British man and the Thai woman began, police revealed that the three shooting suspects were shown on a security camera fleeing the central Phuket shooting.

Beg your pardon. You're right, I'm wrong.

[Tanlic]

Sorry, but do we know that the lady was killed, I cannot see it in the report.

you are correct it only says she was gunned down not the outcome, I have lived in thailand for only two weeks and am shocked at the number and variety of attacks on people, shootings, stabbings, muggings you name it have read about it.

That has less to do with being in Thailand and more to do with what you read. In your home country you probably didn't read things that concentrated on all the seamy news and those things meant to stir up the unwashed masses.

Through curiosity I had a look on Nation Master to see how the actual figures compared to those in the UK. Violent crimes Thailand is just over 1/2 million,,,,wait for it!!!! The UK 6.5 million

One could argue a lot of crimes don't get reported but even if you double or even treble the Thai figures they come no where near those of the UK.

Don't know where our friend comes from but unless he goes looking for trouble or runs about like Flash Harry showing of his new Omega solid gold watch he has very little to worry about...touch wood!!!

[smotherb]

Any association with foreigners may cause natives to be wary of the situation. Foreigners, as you should know, are unnatural creatures for which blame must assuredly be placed. This is true not just in Thailand, but throuoghout the world. In advanced forms, this psycological flaw may cause hatred, biggotry, and discrimination, but in its most advanced form may result in holocaust. A sad example occurred in Idaho, USA, just after the 9/11 attacks. A group of Mexican farm workers were attcked and severely beaten by an ultra 'partiotic' group. The miscreants thought the Mexican farm workers were Middle-Eastern terrorists, because they sure weren't locals.

[madmitch]

Sorry, but do we know that the lady was killed, I cannot see it in the report.

you are correct it only says she was gunned down not the outcome, I have lived in thailand for only two weeks and am shocked at the number and variety of attacks on people, shootings, stabbings, muggings you name it have read about it.

That has less to do with being in Thailand and more to do with what you read. In your home country you probably didn't read things that concentrated on all the seamy news and those things meant to stir up the unwashed masses.

Through curiosity I had a look on Nation Master to see how the actual figures compared to those in the UK. Violent crimes Thailand is just over 1/2 million,,,,wait for it!!!! The UK 6.5 million

One could argue a lot of crimes don't get reported but even if you double or even treble the Thai figures they come no where near those of the UK.

Don't know where our friend comes from but unless he goes looking for trouble or runs about like Flash Harry showing of his new Omega solid gold watch he has very little to worry about...touch wood!!!

It does not say violent crime, just crime. Being the UK it probably includes every petty shoplifting case, white collar crime, MPs fiddling expenses etc,

Remember in Thailand, if you break the law and subsequently pay off the police, then it is not recorded as a crime. It's also interesting that the number of adults prosecuted is practically the same number as the number of crimes committed, whereas the UK figure is about one quarter.

The more I look at those figures (and I have now given up) the more I believe that different countries are providing different types of statistics

I am still staggered at that number of UK crimes but believe that generally you can take these figures with a pinch of salt.

[NamKangMan]

Latest news on another news source is that the police are looking for the foreign boyfriend who was caught on CCTV fleeing the scene.

Who wouldn't flee the scene? They have just shot your wife in the head, the next bullet would be for you.

Unless you could arm yourself and engage, a tactical retreat would be a good idea.

Edited June 10, 2012 by NamKangMan

[crazydrummerpauly]

According to the wisdom of Wikipedia, which has a comprehensive chart of the firearm-related deaths in over 60 countries, you are about 3 times more likely to be killed by a firearm in Thailand compared to the USA, and about 60 times more likely to end that way in Thailand than in the UK. Thailand ranks 8th behind some notoriously dangerous countries >>>

http://en.wikipedia....ated_death_rate

( Per 100,000 of population in one year.)

There are lies, dam_ned lies and then statistics.

Here's a reference showing Thailand as number 3 in the world for death by firearm. Not sure I would trust Wiki.

http://www.nationmas...s-with-firearms

So an even less happy picture of firearms-activity in LOS. One thing i expected someone to pick up about the Wiki chart, and that is that only one year is selected to glean each stat. for deaths per 100,000, and maybe more importantly, that it is DIFFERENT years across the different countries - this is a weakness of the list. As for not trusting Wikipedia - all stats need a sceptical approach, agreed, but the Wiki chart is actually sourced from United Nations research (see notes), and only collated by a Wiki contributor.

[crazydrummerpauly]

"There are lies, dam_ned lies and then statistics."

And then there are those who can't interpret statistics.

That list was total firearm murders, NOT per capita, which would be the more meaningful way to measure the risk...

Mmm, sorry to point it out, but the list IS per Capita - as i noted in the original post - by 100,000 of population, that is per capita x 100,000, so if anyone prefers a per capita number, simply divide the numbers by 100,000, which is not done because many of the numbers would end up with strings of zeros in front of the first number. E.g, a rate of 0.5 per 100,000 will end up as 0.0000005 - i think ! ( corrections welcome, my maths is rusty.)

[JoeLing]

Sorry, but do we know that the lady was killed, I cannot see it in the report.

you are correct it only says she was gunned down not the outcome, I have lived in thailand for only two weeks and am shocked at the number and variety of attacks on people, shootings, stabbings, muggings you name it have read about it.

Coming from the second most dangerous country in the world, Thailand is rather safe ranked at number 16.

What do you define as "Dangerous" and what do you define as "Safe"?

There is loads of criminal statistics and one can more or less bend it as one pleases but If you compare homicide with fire arms, according to Nationmaster.com, Thailand is the most dangerous country in the world, followed by South Africa.

But no worries, at least here in Thailand you get shot with a smile.

[ozzieovaseas]

It's hard to see why the "foreign 'boyfriend'" bit has any business in an article about the vicious murder of a local seamstress.

Its not hard to see through that one..

hint : farang boyfriend + Thai GF shot = bullet loaded into Thaivisa gun..

Mention of a farang invites TVs armchair internet psychics in to investigate the case...all of whom will probably deduct that the farang ordered the hitmen in to do the business, before the evil missus spent all of his money and gambled the house away as well

[ableguy]

Sorry, but do we know that the lady was killed, I cannot see it in the report.

you are correct it only says she was gunned down not the outcome, I have lived in thailand for only two weeks and am shocked at the number and variety of attacks on people, shootings, stabbings, muggings you name it have read about it.

The Thai News is pretty good at printing crimes for all to read unlike the West where many crimes you never hear about...

Actually I think you are 100% wrong and that the opposite is the case. Extra-judicial killings have run into the thousands in this country in the past decade. And also bear in mind that a significant proportion of organised crime is orchestrated by the BiB - in these instances there is no crime and nothing to report. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen .-..

Must agree in big crimes the perp never goes to court, in contrast a bank teller was sentanced to a ioo years a couple of days ago for stealing 34000 baht, sentance cut to 50 years as in BKK post.

[maipompui]

OK..heres what i make of it...from a news outlet that cant be named

hyperthetically, this is it....

Lady has a Brit boyfriend,apparently living in Isaan....

Said boyfriend visited the deceased lady a couple of days ago..talked about ..?????

Said boyfriend has another thai lady friend..possibly wife!!...

Three men from Khon Kaen came to phuket and murdered the poor lady and were so clever that they all departed in the one pick up, after being seen on CCTV,and intercepted at the checkpoint before they even got off the island....smart cookies

Also that they were to be paid 80,000 baht and had received 40,000 up front and to get the balance later....real smart cookies..

Organised by.and paid by.apparently the wife!!...

Wait and see for the outcome....

Edited June 10, 2012 by maipompui

[silsburyhill]

Sorry, but do we know that the lady was killed, I cannot see it in the report.

you are correct it only says she was gunned down not the outcome, I have lived in thailand for only two weeks and am shocked at the number and variety of attacks on people, shootings, stabbings, muggings you name it have read about it.

Every state in the USA has news like this everyday. Thailand is safer than the USA any day.

Violence is violence in all parts of the world. Maybe Thailand is to scary for you?

Not really apples for apples is it? How many middle aged seamstresses get followed to their local Walmart and are shot in the head in what appears to be a contract killing? Do try to remember where you are. Edited June 10, 2012 by silsburyhill

[sirchai]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. AMERICA is much more dangerous. Try this:

Fly to pucking Miami. Rent a car and get lost near the airport.Ask for your pucking hotel and a gun pointing on your head or balls( if you got them) will tell you to give all you've got.

And some guys here want to talk about Thailand? You don't see a gun if you don't WANT to.

[impulse]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. AMERICA is much more dangerous. Try this:

Fly to pucking Miami. Rent a car and get lost near the airport.Ask for your pucking hotel and a gun pointing on your head or balls( if you got them) will tell you to give all you've got.

And some guys here want to talk about Thailand? You don't see a gun if you don't WANT to.

How'sa bout you try this. Go to Pattaya. Rent a jet ski. Refuse to pay for the damage you didn't cause. I'll bet Miami will look pretty good. Then ask what percentage of automobile renters in Miami get robbed vs the percentage of jet ski renters in Pattaya that get extorted.

Anyone can come up with a horror story in any country. It's meaningless because the statistical sampling from one person's experience isn't adequate. Personal safety statistics are measured in occurrences per 100,000 population. What happened to me may be very meaningful to me, but not in the scheme of things.

Look up murders per 100,000 in the references linked above (any of them) then come back with something other than a headline or a plot from Miami Vice or a Dirty Harry movie.

Oh. it's true, there was a gang preying on people (mostly foreign) renting cars at Miami's airport, mostly because they just got off an airplane and couldn't possible have a gun to defend themselves. The Miami police and FBI nipped that in the bud after just a few high profile incidents many years back. How long before you figure the Pattaya police will stop the jet ski extortionists?

Edited June 10, 2012 by impulse

[maidu]

I can see my house in my home country from space - it's called "Google Earth." Try it some time.

Certain US Government Intelligence Agencies can read a motor vehicle number plate from space. Fact.

I'm quite sure you can see The Great wall of China from space.

I was referring to what astronauts say, as it relates to things they can see with the 'unaided eye'. In other words, without magnification. They say you cannot see the Great Wall from Space. However, if you already know its route, then of course you can surmise where it is from the contours of the terrain - which are visible from Space.

Google Earth is whole different ball of wax.

I know this is off topic, but sometimes it's fun to bust popular myths, like naga fire-breathing dragons in the Mekong river, etc., ad nauseum.

[katana]

As far as I could understand it from the Thairath reports, police initially thought that Ms Sumitra's murder may have been some kind of revenge killing since she apparently had two foreign boyfriends, which may have sparked some sort of conflict between them.

However, interviewing the 3 Thai suspects apprehended in Phuket in the Gold Toyota pick-up truck, later led to them confessing they were hired to kill Ms Sumitra for 80k Baht by the Thai wife of one Ms Sumitra's foreign bfs, who lived in a nearby province.

The Thai wife believed her farang husband was giving too much attention to Ms Sumtira and was worried about him giving her too much of his money and assets. Indeed he'd already reportedly given her 1,000,000 Baht.

An arrest warrant's been issued.

http://www.thairath....t/region/267047

http://www.thairath....t/region/267136

Edited June 10, 2012 by katana

[garrya]

Sorry, but do we know that the lady was killed, I cannot see it in the report.

you are correct it only says she was gunned down not the outcome, I have lived in thailand for only two weeks and am shocked at the number and variety of attacks on people, shootings, stabbings, muggings you name it have read about it.

The Thai News is pretty good at printing crimes for all to read unlike the West where many crimes you never hear about...

Can you support your statement, or you are just trolling around???

[TinoThailand]

A farang bf... ok...

Hope she will recover at the hospital

[moe666]

According to the wisdom of Wikipedia, which has a comprehensive chart of the firearm-related deaths in over 60 countries, you are about 3 times more likely to be killed by a firearm in Thailand compared to the USA, and about 60 times more likely to end that way in Thailand than in the UK. Thailand ranks 8th behind some notoriously dangerous countries >>>

http://en.wikipedia....ated_death_rate

( Per 100,000 of population in one year.)

That's because in America in most states you are allowed to buy your right to bear arms and protect yourself (although you will be put in jail for defending yourself)...criminals think twice about using a gun because the so called victim may have one as well.....fair fight..Of course the American gov. is fighting hard for the rights of criminals and keep trying to ban all guns, so things might change in the future where the only people with guns are the criminals....like Thailand... I am correct in assuming guns are outlawed in Thailand, am I right ?

You appear not to know too much about america or Thailand, the majority of people in the US donot carry fire arms. there are a few paranoids who think someone is behind every bush waiting to kill them when they are not. It has been shown time and time again you are more likely to be killed by someone you know a relative, a friend, old boy friend, old girl friend, and business partner than by a stranger. Business partner could be your drug supplier. Random killing by a complete stranger happens but is rare.

Afew years ago in Albuquerque NM there where over 100 killings in a year. The majority were by someone they knew and next was drug related. Several deaths were classified as sucide by cop.

It is legal to have fire arms in Thailand and if you want to jump threw the hoops even a farange can have a fire arm.

In the end becareful who you hang out with, do not make a friend or relative angry, do not do drugs and you should be ok.

[webfact]

Suspects deny 'execution' of Phuket woman

Phuket Gazette

Police escort Phuket murder suspect Sanguan Phu-ngern, 26, to further questioning at Thung Thong Police Station. Photo: Kritsada Mueanhawong

A Phuket Police officer inspects the hands of murder suspect Savit Jongruk, 28, Photo: Kritsada Mueanhawong

PHUKET: -- The three men arrested for the shooting murder of 55-year-old Sumittra Namfak in Phuket yesterday have denied the charges.

Ms Sumittra was shot in the head at close range at her home in Thung Thong, Phuket, yesterday afternoon.

Savit Jongruk 28, Aroon Patan 28, and Sanguan Phu-]ngern 26, were arrested at Tah Chat Chai police checkpoint yesterday as they were trying to leave the island.

Police stopped and searched the bronze-silver pickup they were travelling in following witness reports of a car matching that description being spotted at the scene of the crime.

The searched found one handgun and 20 pills of ya bah (methamphetamine) inside the vehicle .

All three men are registered as residents of Klong Thom in Krabi and reportedly work as farmers.

Police are continuing their investigation.

Ms Sumittra has since died in hospital from the gunshot wound to the head, police confirmed.

Investigating officers are now trying to contact Ms Sumittra's foreign boyfriend and a Thai woman for questioning over the murder.

Source; http://www.phuketgazette.net/archives/articles/2012/article16157.html

-- Phuket Gazette 2012-06-11

[stevenl]

A farang bf... ok...

Hope she will recover at the hospital

Not easy since she is dead.

RIP.

[Dr. Zorg]

Based on homocides per 100,000. Here are the stats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#cite_note-unodcstat-6

[jalansanitwong]

There is no way known that the UK is as violent as Thailand. There have been two recent murders within hearing distance of my house in Bangkok and i live in a safe area!! I read in a Thai paper that the real homicide rate in Thailand is not all that much lower than USA. I think the figure mentioned was 14,000 killings per annum and that wouldnt include Thais and farangs who 'vanish' .

There was an old Swede who married a girl- soi dishwasher in Thonburi and built her family a 2 million baht house + cash gifts in Isan. She walks around in nice clothes and gold jewelry. I havent seen him since he married her over 3 years ago.

where is he ????????????.....dont ask.

Ive just read the stats on so-called intentional homiced in thailand 4 per 100,000 or 300 homicide victims per annum (65 millions).

Impossible. There would more than 300 homicides in Pattaya every year not to mention Kanchanaburi, Korat,southern towns etc etc etc. With almost 80 provinces in Thailand there would be 40 Thais whacked every day here.

Edited June 11, 2012 by jalansanitwong

[HerbalEd]

It's hard to see why the "foreign 'boyfriend'" bit has any business in an article about the vicious murder of a local seamstress.

It wouldn't be the first time that a "foreign boyfriend" killed ... or had killed ... his Thai girlfriend.