Korkaew Says Red Shirts Have Their Rights To Protest Against Democrats

[MunterHunter]

So don't touch them, we'll do this legally correct and hand them over to the ICC

Well theres a first time for everything i guess (doing something legally correct)

[kerryk]

Wrong..... he stole 40 billion baht not 400 billion dollars

He meant the 400bn = 30% Thai state funds that some officials alleged Thaksin overspent in his own family businesses during his time in office. But the exact number doesn't matter to kerryk anyway, so long as he can use it in personal offtopic insults against me.

See I told you Yunia was right.

[Moruya]

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In a democracy anyone can protest against any political party or faction as long as they stay within the rule of law.

Aren't we talking about Thailand? When did Thailand have a democracy?

I admit it's sometimes hard to believe how Thailand could possibly be a democracy what with organised vote buying along the lines of corrupt African dictatorships and governments with so many members of the same family you'd think you were in some feudal Middle Eastern sheikhdom.

However technically at least this a democrativ monarchy..... for now.

No it's not. The party in power was not elected and they want to grant amnesty to a mass murderer and man who stole 400 billion dollars and the PM never even goes to Parliament. That's what Yunia says and I believe her. Don't you?

For once I concur

[animatic]

"...until the streets run red with democracy...."

More apropos a double than entendre than intended I suspect.

[Yunla]

See I told you Yunia was right.

I'm not going to pay you anything to go round saying I'm right. I'm broke and besides it is immoral.

[kerryk]

Aren't we talking about Thailand? When did Thailand have a democracy?

I admit it's sometimes hard to believe how Thailand could possibly be a democracy what with organised vote buying along the lines of corrupt African dictatorships and governments with so many members of the same family you'd think you were in some feudal Middle Eastern sheikhdom.

However technically at least this a democrativ monarchy..... for now.

No it's not. The party in power was not elected and they want to grant amnesty to a mass murderer and man who stole 400 billion dollars and the PM never even goes to Parliament. That's what Yunia says and I believe her. Don't you?

For once I concur

Kumbya my lord Kumbya.

[Moruya]

Wrong..... he stole 40 billion baht not 400 billion dollars

He meant the 400bn = 30% Thai state funds that some officials alleged Thaksin overspent in his own family businesses during his time in office. But the exact number doesn't matter to kerryk anyway, so long as he can use it in personal offtopic insults against me.

See I told you Yunia was right.

My eyes aren't what they once were and my phone's display is a bit small but I'm sure there's an "l" in Yunla.

[Moruya]

"...until the streets run red with democracy...."

More apropos a double than entendre than intended I suspect.

The ghost of Enoch Powell

[Moruya]

For once I concur

Kumbya my lord Kumbya.

Any sashimi round the camp fire?

[whybother]

Pathum Thani red-shirt leader says Pheu Thai not behind protest against Abhisit

The Nation

PATHUM THANI: -- A leader of a red-shirt group in Pathum Thani said Monday that no politician was behind his group holding a protest against Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva last week.

Putthipong Kotthamkhun said the red-shirt people turned up to disrupt the rally of the Democrat in Friday night on their own because the people were still anger at the Abhisit government

Putthipong said red-shirt people in Pathum Thani were still angry that the Abhisit government spent about Bt6 billion to deploy troops to crack down on red-shirt protesters, leading to 98 deaths and injuries of over 2,000 people.

-- The Nation 2012-07-02

[WhizBang]

In a democracy anyone can protest against any political party or faction as long as they stay within the rule of law.

Aren't we talking about Thailand? When did Thailand have a democracy?

... Or the rule of law.

[OzMick]

Pathum Thani red-shirt leader says Pheu Thai not behind protest against Abhisit

The Nation

PATHUM THANI: -- A leader of a red-shirt group in Pathum Thani said Monday that no politician was behind his group holding a protest against Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva last week.

Putthipong Kotthamkhun said the red-shirt people turned up to disrupt the rally of the Democrat in Friday night on their own because the people were still anger at the Abhisit government

Putthipong said red-shirt people in Pathum Thani were still angry that the Abhisit government spent about Bt6 billion to deploy troops to crack down on red-shirt protesters, leading to 98 deaths and injuries of over 2,000 people.

-- The Nation 2012-07-02

He forgot to add "We did nuffink rong!"

[hellodolly]

How dare those Red Shirts protest. The gall of some people!

Did you miss the part about surrounding a Democrats rally? That's not protest that's intimidation.

Kerry. The red shirts did not win the last election.

And yes some of the red leadership have thuggish behavior.

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One would have to be pretty dense to think that was a protest. Well considering where it came from maybe drunk Not only was it intimidation but it was a desperate attempt to stop the truth from being told to the people.

Telling the truth is the first thing on the red shirt list of things not to do unless it makes them look good..

[hellodolly]

In a democracy anyone can protest against any political party or faction as long as they stay within the rule of law.

Aren't we talking about Thailand? When did Thailand have a democracy?

... Or the rule of law.

When Abhist was the PM. Now we have a thinly veiled dictatorship where the rule of law will be followed just as soon as they write it to suit there needs of the moment.

[hellodolly]

When you listen to what these red shirt "leaders" (who the hell voted for them anyway?) say, you would have to come away thinkinhg that either their brain never had a chance to develop or that someone sneaked stealthily into theit boudoir one nigh and replaced the grey matter with brown.

Is there some form of "Thug labotomy" that is available at certain participating clinics?

Red Shirts, thugs! Not really winners of the last election! Someone gave them a lobotomy! Yea right on.

kerryk and Moruya

I agree with you both someone would have to have a lobotomy to be a red shirt or maybe just not gifted with gray matter in good working order. It is nice to see you both agreeing on the same thing.

[letitbe]

is it just me or are most of us totally fed up with this nonsense. Ive made my choices and have done deed and moved most of our assets away from here. Im sad about it since id rather have kept our assets here and if this crap stops well bring it back. In meantime well stay and wait it out for next however many years but in 18+ years here ive never been so pessimistic. Maybe its age and maybe im wrong. Weve done well and no problem through several coups but with this climate how can anyone seriously put assets here. It iwll be slow but it is going to happen until Taksin is put out of the picture. Maybe for best, who knows.

[waza]

_{In the spirit of reconciliation the Redshirts have the right to harrass protest Ahbisit at any time as long as they dont lynch him?}

Edited July 2, 2012 by waza

[hellodolly]

is it just me or are most of us totally fed up with this nonsense. Ive made my choices and have done deed and moved most of our assets away from here. Im sad about it since id rather have kept our assets here and if this crap stops well bring it back. In meantime well stay and wait it out for next however many years but in 18+ years here ive never been so pessimistic. Maybe its age and maybe im wrong. Weve done well and no problem through several coups but with this climate how can anyone seriously put assets here. It iwll be slow but it is going to happen until Taksin is put out of the picture. Maybe for best, who knows.

Well there may or may not be a lot of truth in what you say.

The point is what other countrie is doing so well that it is worth the effort.

[Buchholz]

How do you know what Jeng did was sanctioned by the government? OK, he's an MP, and should face severe reprimands by PTP, but that doesn't mean they knew what he was going to do.

First off, to correct the above, Dokjik is not an MP, but a Yingluck Cabinet appointee.

Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Yoswaris "Jeng Dokjik" Chuklom

Naewna Newspaper (article in Thai)

http://www.naewna.com/

As many Red Shirt Leaders he's awaiting the processing of multiple criminal charges that he has been indicted for.

He has not faced any reprimand from the PTP for his deplorable action of inciting others to threaten judges and their families.

To date, I'm not aware of ANY Red Shirt that has been reprimanded by the PTP for their action.

Instead, it's been just the opposite. The Red Shirts get promoted by PTP... such as in their placement on the Pheu Thai Party-list of MP's and in case of Natthawut, Deputy Agriculture Minister in the Cabinet.

In this case of Red Shirts .... there's a perfect opportunity for Yingluck to reverse the established policy and condemn the acts of the Red Shirts who attempted to break into a school where Abhisit was giving a speech.

As seen multiple times previously with the Red Shirts, they hurled verbal abuse and hurled physical abuse by throwing water bottles at the stage.... which prompted police to escort Abhisit out of the area.

We await for Yingluck to condemn and fire Dokjik at the least. Directing her Justice Ministry to pursue criminal charges (to go along with his laundry list of previous charges) for his criminal act would be most appropriate.

We also await for Yingluck to at least admonish or decry the Red Shirts for their violent activities a few days ago.

And no, the mealy-mouthed comments by her here don't do that.

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Edited July 2, 2012 by Buchholz

[fasteddie]

When you listen to what these red shirt "leaders" (who the hell voted for them anyway?) say, you would have to come away thinkinhg that either their brain never had a chance to develop or that someone sneaked stealthily into theit boudoir one nigh and replaced the grey matter with brown.

Is there some form of "Thug labotomy" that is available at certain participating clinics?

The nice Englishman sent snipers to the rooftops to assassinate their relatives, how would you feel?

[MAJIC]

When you listen to what these red shirt "leaders" (who the hell voted for them anyway?) say, you would have to come away thinkinhg that either their brain never had a chance to develop or that someone sneaked stealthily into theit boudoir one nigh and replaced the grey matter with brown.

Is there some form of "Thug labotomy" that is available at certain participating clinics?

The nice Englishman sent snipers to the rooftops to assassinate their relatives, how would you feel?

And of course,you have the evidence that "The nice Englishman" sent snipers to the rooftops?

I'm sure we all can't wait to see the evidence!

More to the point: who put the Black Masked Snipers in the Red Shirt Camp? perhaps you know the answer to that one as well?

Edited July 2, 2012 by MAJIC

[Babcock]

How do you know what Jeng did was sanctioned by the government? OK, he's an MP, and should face severe reprimands by PTP, but that doesn't mean they knew what he was going to do.

First off, to correct the above, Dokjik is not an MP, but a Yingluck Cabinet appointee.

Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Yoswaris "Jeng Dokjik" Chuklom

Naewna Newspaper (article in Thai)

http://www.naewna.com/

As many Red Shirt Leaders he's awaiting the processing of multiple criminal charges that he has been indicted for.

He has not faced any reprimand from the PTP for his deplorable action of inciting others to threaten judges and their families.

To date, I'm not aware of ANY Red Shirt that has been reprimanded by the PTP for their action.

Instead, it's been just the opposite. The Red Shirts get promoted by PTP... such as in their placement on the Pheu Thai Party-list of MP's and in case of Natthawut, Deputy Agriculture Minister in the Cabinet.

In this case of Red Shirts .... there's a perfect opportunity for Yingluck to reverse the established policy and condemn the acts of the Red Shirts who attempted to break into a school where Abhisit was giving a speech.

As seen multiple times previously with the Red Shirts, they hurled verbal abuse and hurled physical abuse by throwing water bottles at the stage.... which prompted police to escort Abhisit out of the area.

We await for Yingluck to condemn and fire Dokjik at the least. Directing her Justice Ministry to pursue criminal charges (to go along with his laundry list of previous charges) for his criminal act would be most appropriate.

We also await for Yingluck to at least admonish or decry the Red Shirts for their violent activities a few days ago.

And no, the mealy-mouthed comments by her here don't do that.

http://www.thaivisa....y/#entry5447273

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Boohoo the very thought of it. Radical change.

The rose tinted glasses fall off.

The golden past.

The tug of the forelock.

Abhisit trying to educate the United Nations about Sufficiency Economy.

On another thread "Charter court urged to drop amendment inquiry"

Abhisit:

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said that as a witness opposing charter change, he will submit a written statement by tomorrow."

Is this not the same Abhisit who opposed the Coup rewrite of the 1997 constitution?

No change eh?

Cake and eat it.

I know what he should eat.

He shoud be forced to eat his words.

That's why the redshirts are there. to bear witness to this scoundrel.

See they don't want your "sufficiency economy."

Like people everywhere they aspire.

To better education

To free movement of labour

To ownership

To inclusion

Creepy elites telling people what to do don't make it anyhow.

The future can be good.

aspire.

We were so wrong.

Thailand must soon decide to follow the democracy path or wrap itself in its flag and fossilyze

[Reasonableman]

Unintelligible platitudinous chestbeating rant ends.

Edited July 2, 2012 by Reasonableman

[ThaiOats]

Hey, I wonder what people think about having extra privileges by wearing a Red Shirt or holding a UDD membership card grants you? Would this be okay in society? It's headed that way.

[Moruya]

When you listen to what these red shirt "leaders" (who the hell voted for them anyway?) say, you would have to come away thinkinhg that either their brain never had a chance to develop or that someone sneaked stealthily into theit boudoir one nigh and replaced the grey matter with brown.

Is there some form of "Thug labotomy" that is available at certain participating clinics?

The nice Englishman sent snipers to the rooftops to assassinate their relatives, how would you feel?

That's a downright lie. In fact it's a bunch of downright lies.

[Moruya]

How do you know what Jeng did was sanctioned by the government? OK, he's an MP, and should face severe reprimands by PTP, but that doesn't mean they knew what he was going to do.

First off, to correct the above, Dokjik is not an MP, but a Yingluck Cabinet appointee.

Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Yoswaris "Jeng Dokjik" Chuklom

Naewna Newspaper (article in Thai)

http://www.naewna.com/

As many Red Shirt Leaders he's awaiting the processing of multiple criminal charges that he has been indicted for.

He has not faced any reprimand from the PTP for his deplorable action of inciting others to threaten judges and their families.

To date, I'm not aware of ANY Red Shirt that has been reprimanded by the PTP for their action.

Instead, it's been just the opposite. The Red Shirts get promoted by PTP... such as in their placement on the Pheu Thai Party-list of MP's and in case of Natthawut, Deputy Agriculture Minister in the Cabinet.

In this case of Red Shirts .... there's a perfect opportunity for Yingluck to reverse the established policy and condemn the acts of the Red Shirts who attempted to break into a school where Abhisit was giving a speech.

As seen multiple times previously with the Red Shirts, they hurled verbal abuse and hurled physical abuse by throwing water bottles at the stage.... which prompted police to escort Abhisit out of the area.

We await for Yingluck to condemn and fire Dokjik at the least. Directing her Justice Ministry to pursue criminal charges (to go along with his laundry list of previous charges) for his criminal act would be most appropriate.

We also await for Yingluck to at least admonish or decry the Red Shirts for their violent activities a few days ago.

And no, the mealy-mouthed comments by her here don't do that.

http://www.thaivisa....y/#entry5447273

.

Boohoo the very thought of it. Radical change.

The rose tinted glasses fall off.

The golden past.

The tug of the forelock.

Abhisit trying to educate the United Nations about Sufficiency Economy.

On another thread "Charter court urged to drop amendment inquiry"

Abhisit:

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said that as a witness opposing charter change, he will submit a written statement by tomorrow."

Is this not the same Abhisit who opposed the Coup rewrite of the 1997 constitution?

No change eh?

Cake and eat it.

I know what he should eat.

He shoud be forced to eat his words.

That's why the redshirts are there. to bear witness to this scoundrel.

See they don't want your "sufficiency economy."

Like people everywhere they aspire.

To better education

To free movement of labour

To ownership

To inclusion

Creepy elites telling people what to do don't make it anyhow.

The future can be good.

aspire.

We were so wrong.

Thailand must soon decide to follow the democracy path or wrap itself in its flag and fossilyze

The Red Alternative is incestuous anarchy

[Yunla]

The nice Englishman sent snipers to the rooftops to assassinate their relatives, how would you feel?

The only people who assasinated redmob were the redmob, by marching on the capital and behaving in a threatening manner for 3 months and refusing to go home when politely told to do so. If they had stayed at home, or demonstrated for a shorter time and within the law, nobody would have died. Redmob in early 2010 was like history's slowest ever act of seppuku. Its also worth mentioning re; your mystery snipers, that in an interview during the actual 2010 redmob demonstration, the redmob spokesman said (paraphrased) 'we have former rangers fighting for us, they joined us because they disagee with the army" and shortly after he said that the black clad snipers appeared, not only on rooftops but in crowds of redmob and even onstage with the talking tomatoes.

Edited July 2, 2012 by Yunla

[Yunla]

Like people everywhere they aspire.

To better education

To free movement of labour

To ownership

To inclusion

And PTP have provided them with none of those things, absolutely none. After 12 months in office, PTP have failed to even implement the starting phases of any life-improvement bills for the redmob. PTP treat parliament like a social club to gossip and plot in, and they have a policy-wasteland.

Creepy elites telling people what to do don't make it anyhow.

"Creepy elites", I really like that phrase. It sounds like a halloween dessert.

We were so wrong.

You still are.

[Buchholz]

How do you know what Jeng did was sanctioned by the government? OK, he's an MP, and should face severe reprimands by PTP, but that doesn't mean they knew what he was going to do.

First off, to correct the above, Dokjik is not an MP, but a Yingluck Cabinet appointee.

Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Yoswaris "Jeng Dokjik" Chuklom

Naewna Newspaper (article in Thai)

http://www.naewna.com/

As many Red Shirt Leaders he's awaiting the processing of multiple criminal charges that he has been indicted for.

He has not faced any reprimand from the PTP for his deplorable action of inciting others to threaten judges and their families.

To date, I'm not aware of ANY Red Shirt that has been reprimanded by the PTP for their action.

Instead, it's been just the opposite. The Red Shirts get promoted by PTP... such as in their placement on the Pheu Thai Party-list of MP's and in case of Natthawut, Deputy Agriculture Minister in the Cabinet.

In this case of Red Shirts .... there's a perfect opportunity for Yingluck to reverse the established policy and condemn the acts of the Red Shirts who attempted to break into a school where Abhisit was giving a speech.

As seen multiple times previously with the Red Shirts, they hurled verbal abuse and hurled physical abuse by throwing water bottles at the stage.... which prompted police to escort Abhisit out of the area.

We await for Yingluck to condemn and fire Dokjik at the least. Directing her Justice Ministry to pursue criminal charges (to go along with his laundry list of previous charges) for his criminal act would be most appropriate.

We also await for Yingluck to at least admonish or decry the Red Shirts for their violent activities a few days ago.

And no, the mealy-mouthed comments by her here don't do that.

http://www.thaivisa....y/#entry5447273

.

Boohoo the very thought of it. Radical change.

The rose tinted glasses fall off.

The golden past.

The tug of the forelock.

Abhisit trying to educate the United Nations about Sufficiency Economy.

On another thread "Charter court urged to drop amendment inquiry"

Abhisit:

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said that as a witness opposing charter change, he will submit a written statement by tomorrow."

Is this not the same Abhisit who opposed the Coup rewrite of the 1997 constitution?

No change eh?

Cake and eat it.

I know what he should eat.

He shoud be forced to eat his words.

That's why the redshirts are there. to bear witness to this scoundrel.

See they don't want your "sufficiency economy."

Like people everywhere they aspire.

To better education

To free movement of labour

To ownership

To inclusion

Creepy elites telling people what to do don't make it anyhow.

The future can be good.

aspire.

We were so wrong.

Thailand must soon decide to follow the democracy path or wrap itself in its flag and fossilyze

Very eloquent.

Conjures up images of pure natural spring mineral water....

inside the bottles the Red Shirts are hurling at speakers during a speech....

at a school.

.

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Edited July 3, 2012 by Buchholz

[Ricardo]

The nice Englishman sent snipers to the rooftops to assassinate their relatives, how would you feel?

There was an Englishman, in command of snipers at the 'peaceful protests', I thought DL was Ugandan or Montenegrin or Nicaraguan or something ?

Hey, I wonder what people think about having extra privileges by wearing a Red Shirt or holding a UDD membership card grants you? Would this be okay in society? It's headed that way.

The som-tam lady assures me that they've also all been promised a 'Thai Elite' card, not that their leader believes Thai elites are something for the ordinary people to aspire to, of course not, the Red Shirts are against the elite & it's a vicious rumour that DL could ever have dreamed-up such a wrong-thinking flop scheme.