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"No Thai women to drink here by themselves

No coming in groups

You must dress politely

No fondling and kissing

(women must have man with them)"

My girlfriend read this today and found it offensive....it was prominently dispayed at the bar we were having a drink at.

What do you think?

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Looks like a lot of rules to me smokie. I would be offended if I was her, sure.

Were you offended on her behalf?

Cheap Charlies on Suk 11 has the same kind of sign, but I think they allow the ladies to come in groups but I've never been lucky enough to be there at the time

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Cheap Charlies on Suk 11 has the same kind of sign, but I think they allow the ladies to come in groups but I've never been lucky enough to be there at the time

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I think the only time a woman may find that notice offensive, if she were a freelancer out on the pull.

Could prove bad for business and perhaps that establishment have had problems in the past and this is the reason that notice is displayed?

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Looks like a lot of rules to me smokie. I would be offended if I was her, sure.

Were you offended on her behalf?

No mate....I am a free enterprise lover....and besides I was too busy...biggrin.png

No women alone used to be a common rule in the UK when I was young

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I think the only time a woman may find that notice offensive, if she were a freelancer out on the pull.

Could prove bad for business and perhaps that establishment have had problems in the past and this is the reason that notice is displayed?

Two young professional Thai women decide to drop by for a Gin and Tonic and are pointed towards the sign.....can you explain to them why they cannot have a drink at a bar in their own town please?

They basically don't want prostitutes working at the bar. Guessing the bar is mainly for foreigners and they don't want to turn in to a freelancer joint.

I don't 'get' it.

Perhaps the venue was trying to change its image?

I think the only time a woman may find that notice offensive, if she were a freelancer out on the pull.

Could prove bad for business and perhaps that establishment have had problems in the past and this is the reason that notice is displayed?

Two young professional Thai women decide to drop by for a Gin and Tonic and are pointed towards the sign.....can you explain to them why they cannot have a drink at a bar in their own town please?

In which case they're a) not on their own and B) its obvious they're not looking for a 'farang'.

CC's Soi 11's sign I believe 'did' allow two women to sit down together for a drink but 'did' make a decision based on how they were dressed.

I don't know if it's still there or not, had to stop all that enjoyment thing when I became an old married F-rt

I think the only time a woman may find that notice offensive, if she were a freelancer out on the pull.

Could prove bad for business and perhaps that establishment have had problems in the past and this is the reason that notice is displayed?

Two young professional Thai women decide to drop by for a Gin and Tonic and are pointed towards the sign.....can you explain to them why they cannot have a drink at a bar in their own town please?

In which case they're a) not on their own and cool.png its obvious they're not looking for a 'farang'.

Is 2 a group?

Cheap Charlies on Suk 11 has the same kind of sign

That IS Cheap Charlie's sign unless I'm very much mistaken.

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"My girlfriend read this today and found it offensive....it was prominently dispayed at the bar we were having a drink at.

What do you think? "

I think you should find a better class of Bar to patronise.

No decent establishment would find it necessary to display this sort of sign ergo I would never go there - and it follows that I would never take a respectable Thai girl to such a place either.

Patrick

I think the only time a woman may find that notice offensive, if she were a freelancer out on the pull.

Could prove bad for business and perhaps that establishment have had problems in the past and this is the reason that notice is displayed?

Two young professional Thai women decide to drop by for a Gin and Tonic and are pointed towards the sign.....can you explain to them why they cannot have a drink at a bar in their own town please?

In which case they're a) not on their own and cool.png its obvious they're not looking for a 'farang'.

Is 2 a group?

I'm sure the bar owner is able to differentiate between the odd woman looking for a 'mark' and the two friends out for an after-work drink...

Maybe the Thai girls (single or groups) don't spend enough money.

Cheap Charlies on Suk 11 has the same kind of sign

That IS Cheap Charlie's sign unless I'm very much mistaken.

How many years has it been there?, if it's CC's. My first visit was 91 or 92, no not when I was 91 or 92smile.png

"My girlfriend read this today and found it offensive....it was prominently dispayed at the bar we were having a drink at.

What do you think? "

I think you should find a better class of Bar to patronise.

No decent establishment would find it necessary to display this sort of sign ergo I would never go there - and it follows that I would never take a respectable Thai girl to such a place either.

Patrick

In which case it won't affect you.

The owner is obviously trying to differentiate between his bar and those employing women for hire (cough, cough)... If he is successful, he may attract farang/Thai couples where the woman has developed an aversion to bars employing women for hire.

Believe it is Cheap Charlie's on soi 11. Hard to be diplomatic about something like this, but he's clearly sending a warning signal to freelancers, which would be bad for his business and ruin his place in about 2 seconds flat. Suspect though that a 'we reserve the right to deny service' might be a compromise, assuming people knew how to read between the lines. And I suspect they don't.

Maybe they were fed up with deadwood foreigners coming to try and pick up hookers, but didn't expect a sign saying "No whoremongers" to be very effective.

Did they actually enforce the rules?

Maybe they were fed up with complaints from single Thai ladies who were accosted by foreigners, and since it was the foreigners that kept the bar till running, it was easier to remove the temptation.

Was the place rank with Russian hookers, by the way?

SC

EDIT: My apologies to the Russians, by the way. Most of the former Soviet Republic ladies that I have met in bars around the world were from republics other than Russia. I should know better, having been called English so often. Again, my apologies. And also to the ladies from other republics.

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Cheap Charlies on Suk 11 has the same kind of sign

That IS Cheap Charlie's sign unless I'm very much mistaken.

Never understood the point of this place. It's not even cheap.

Maybe they were fed up with deadwood foreigners coming to try and pick up hookers, but didn't expect a sign saying "No whoremongers" to be very effective.

Did they actually enforce the rules?

Maybe they were fed up with complaints from single Thai ladies who were accosted by foreigners, and since it was the foreigners that kept the bar till running, it was easier to remove the temptation.

Was the place rank with Russian hookers, by the way?

SC

You've obviously a good point here. The place is awash with Russian hookers and I've no doubt the sign was to discourage them from venturing into the bar.

Maybe they were fed up with deadwood foreigners coming to try and pick up hookers, but didn't expect a sign saying "No whoremongers" to be very effective.

Did they actually enforce the rules?

Maybe they were fed up with complaints from single Thai ladies who were accosted by foreigners, and since it was the foreigners that kept the bar till running, it was easier to remove the temptation.

Was the place rank with Russian hookers, by the way?

SC

You've obviously a good point here. The place is awash with Russian hookers and I've no doubt the sign was to discourage them from venturing into the bar.

Native Russian women can read Thai ?....WOW they must be quicker at learning the languge than the vast majority of TV posters then !

How many years has it been there?, if it's CC's. My first visit was 91 or 92, no not when I was 91 or 92smile.png

It's been there since the early 1980s I believe.

Don't know about the sign, but that bar looks to have seen better days. :lol:

Personally, I wouldn't take a girlfriend to the type of bar that felt the need to display this kind of sign but that's just my own preference.

I can understand your girl being offended because she may genuinely want to have a drink alone or with a girlfriend one evening.

On the other hand, the bar may be in an area popular with freelance hookers and probably wants to discourage their patronage since they tend to attract less than desirable male punters with a predilection for turning every encounter with alcohol into an excuse for a loud party to the detriment of ordinary tourist or local custom.

Guess you have to look at both sides.

Satthit, the owner of cheap charlies but the sign up at the behest of the chinese thai owners of the soi and suk 11 guest house.

When they ousted all the massage parlours, Sathit was told to discourage the gathering of Thai women or lose the space.

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