My Experience With Thai Police Last Night , And I Have Few Questions

[sysardman]

as Henry Chinaski said when asked "do you hate the cops" he replied "no, but I feel better when they're not around"

Who's Henry Chinaski and I bet he wasn't being mugged at the time.

character in Barfly, played by Mickey Rourke

Thank you - sorry didn't see that film.

[sysardman]

in 2002 when I was living in suk soi 22 and walking down the street in the early evening down towards Rama 4 a guy sitting on a bike grabbed me by the arm and said police, stop. As I wrenched my arm away I saw he had a gun strapped to his side but wasnt wearing any police insignia that I could see, so this kiwi sped up a bit then legged it down an alley before that slow dude could get started and get around a couple of parked cars to chase me. My passport at the time was either at The Wall bar in silom or on its way to/from Malaysia, so I wasnt giving that **** any chance to extort me

Well officially you were breaking the law so you would have been faced with a fine anyway - it wasn't extortion. I've only had one fine in Thailand and that was when I first came here years ago and just rented a motorbike in Pattaya. The rental place only had a couple of cruddy, possibly lice infested helmets so I declined and was intending buying my own helmet but got collared before I had a chance - result 200Bt fine. Have always worn a helmet and produced the right papers when stopped and never been fined since.

[Bpuumike]

Whichever country you to choose to live in, abide by the rules, and if it is Thailand you won't have problems.

The RTP in my experience are more effective than the UK Police.

[sysardman]

Whichever country you to choose to live in, abide by the rules, and if it is Thailand you won't have problems.

The RTP in my experience are more effective than the UK Police.

Taken from another thread and my sympathies to Ms Meir and respect to the Thai police for their handling of such a situation:

The victim, Ms. Meir, had been raped in Koh Lipe Island, moo 7, Koh Sarai, Muang Satoon. The police commanders rushed the victim by marine police boat to the hospital for treatment.

The police later took the victim to file a report with Pol. Capt. Pairoj Pijitbanjong, officer on duty, Muang Satoon police station.

[Nisa]

in 2002 when I was living in suk soi 22 and walking down the street in the early evening down towards Rama 4 a guy sitting on a bike grabbed me by the arm and said police, stop. As I wrenched my arm away I saw he had a gun strapped to his side but wasnt wearing any police insignia that I could see, so this kiwi sped up a bit then legged it down an alley before that slow dude could get started and get around a couple of parked cars to chase me. My passport at the time was either at The Wall bar in silom or on its way to/from Malaysia, so I wasnt giving that **** any chance to extort me

Well officially you were breaking the law so you would have been faced with a fine anyway - it wasn't extortion. I've only had one fine in Thailand and that was when I first came here years ago and just rented a motorbike in Pattaya. The rental place only had a couple of cruddy, possibly lice infested helmets so I declined and was intending buying my own helmet but got collared before I had a chance - result 200Bt fine. Have always worn a helmet and produced the right papers when stopped and never been fined since.

A lot cheaper than in California where "the extortion" would cost you $250 (7,500 TB) and possibly an arrest.

[robblok]

in 2002 when I was living in suk soi 22 and walking down the street in the early evening down towards Rama 4 a guy sitting on a bike grabbed me by the arm and said police, stop. As I wrenched my arm away I saw he had a gun strapped to his side but wasnt wearing any police insignia that I could see, so this kiwi sped up a bit then legged it down an alley before that slow dude could get started and get around a couple of parked cars to chase me. My passport at the time was either at The Wall bar in silom or on its way to/from Malaysia, so I wasnt giving that **** any chance to extort me

Well officially you were breaking the law so you would have been faced with a fine anyway - it wasn't extortion. I've only had one fine in Thailand and that was when I first came here years ago and just rented a motorbike in Pattaya. The rental place only had a couple of cruddy, possibly lice infested helmets so I declined and was intending buying my own helmet but got collared before I had a chance - result 200Bt fine. Have always worn a helmet and produced the right papers when stopped and never been fined since.

A lot cheaper than in California where "the extortion" would cost you $250 (7,500 TB) and possibly an arrest.

Ah Nisa, just that fines are cheaper here does not mean that its good to pay for crimes you did not commit. If i don't wear a helmet i pay up (i always wear a helmet i don't have a death wish).

I am just a bit worried about getting extorted by the police when they are searching me. If it was a group of police.. lets say 10 and an official checkpoint i would feel ok. But just 2 of them on an unofficial checkpoint id feel worried they would set me up.

I don't think highly of the police they are known to be corrupt and then its only one step further to frame someone for money.

[SpoliaOpima]

I was pulled from a taxi at Asok and Rama 4, searched and then urine-tested. When my urine came up clean, an officer joked that I should drink it since it was OK. I laughed but when I started to get back in my taxi a second cop blocked my way and suggested the same thing, and he wasn't smiling. At that I pulled out my cellphone and said I was calling my lawyer. The other cop said 'That wont' be necessary' and they let me get in the cab and be on my way.

The next day I did call a Thai lawyer, a friend who practices civll law and teaches at Thammasat U. He said every move they had made was illegal, including the original search because they did not have probable cause or a warrant. But he said the police pretty much rule the roost at night and you just have to take whatever comes or not go out at night at all. He also said that it's much worse since PT came to power as Chalerm and the other PT police contingents have told the police 'Now is your time to take as many bribes as you like with impunity'. According to my lawyer friend, what the PT/reds ask in return is for the police to resist the next time the army takes to the streets.

Yes it's a bit of a conpiracy theory but he says it's what a lot of people are saying as a way of explaining the steep increase in taxi passenger searches since Yingluck came in.

Whatever the reasoning behind, by every account the situation is much worse these days. Every expat I know has been searched at least once when out after midnight in Bkk.

[sysardman]

I was pulled from a taxi at Asok and Rama 4, searched and then urine-tested. When my urine came up clean, an officer joked that I should drink it since it was OK. I laughed but when I started to get back in my taxi a second cop blocked my way and suggested the same thing, and he wasn't smiling. At that I pulled out my cellphone and said I was calling my lawyer. The other cop said 'That wont' be necessary' and they let me get in the cab and be on my way.

The next day I did call a Thai lawyer, a friend who practices civll law and teaches at Thammasat U. He said every move they had made was illegal, including the original search because they did not have probable cause or a warrant. But he said the police pretty much rule the roost at night and you just have to take whatever comes or not go out at night at all. He also said that it's much worse since PT came to power as Chalerm and the other PT police contingents have told the police 'Now is your time to take as many bribes as you like with impunity'. According to my lawyer friend, what the PT/reds ask in return is for the police to resist the next time the army takes to the streets.

Yes it's a bit of a conpiracy theory but he says it's what a lot of people are saying as a way of explaining the steep increase in taxi passenger searches since Yingluck came in.

Whatever the reasoning behind, by every account the situation is much worse these days. Every expat I know has been searched at least once when out after midnight in Bkk.

Well if they were really corrupt they would have slipped a little something into your sample - sounds like they were just a bit miffed at not getting 'tea money'

[Nisa]

in 2002 when I was living in suk soi 22 and walking down the street in the early evening down towards Rama 4 a guy sitting on a bike grabbed me by the arm and said police, stop. As I wrenched my arm away I saw he had a gun strapped to his side but wasnt wearing any police insignia that I could see, so this kiwi sped up a bit then legged it down an alley before that slow dude could get started and get around a couple of parked cars to chase me. My passport at the time was either at The Wall bar in silom or on its way to/from Malaysia, so I wasnt giving that **** any chance to extort me

Well officially you were breaking the law so you would have been faced with a fine anyway - it wasn't extortion. I've only had one fine in Thailand and that was when I first came here years ago and just rented a motorbike in Pattaya. The rental place only had a couple of cruddy, possibly lice infested helmets so I declined and was intending buying my own helmet but got collared before I had a chance - result 200Bt fine. Have always worn a helmet and produced the right papers when stopped and never been fined since.

A lot cheaper than in California where "the extortion" would cost you $250 (7,500 TB) and possibly an arrest.

Ah Nisa, just that fines are cheaper here does not mean that its good to pay for crimes you did not commit. If i don't wear a helmet i pay up (i always wear a helmet i don't have a death wish).

I am just a bit worried about getting extorted by the police when they are searching me. If it was a group of police.. lets say 10 and an official checkpoint i would feel ok. But just 2 of them on an unofficial checkpoint id feel worried they would set me up.

I don't think highly of the police they are known to be corrupt and then its only one step further to frame someone for money.

If you worry about things like this then you should stop reading the nonsense posters claim here because the odds of that happening are so tiny compared to other things you should be worried about like getting into an accident walking on the sidewalk or driving a car or taking a shower.

But it does make for entertaining reading. I particularly like the one about the Thai cops speak perfect English trying to force a farang (who he has no idea who he is) to drink his own urine while standing on a main road in Bangkok but this "conspiracy" makes sense because of "Yingluck" and for some reason beyond my comprehension, people here believe these people whose stories they would discount in a heartbeat back home.

[fester471]

This has also happened to me in a taxi in sukumvit area , I always carry a copy of my passport on me which I gave to the policeman, he asked me to get out of the taxi which I refused to do.

I had a Thai friend with me who said something to the policeman , he gave me back my passport copy and slammed the taxi door, was not too happy about something. My Thai friend was not able to explain to me in English what it was all about but I got the impression that the police were after some money...what a surprise that is.

I suspect it has something to do with showing correct ID but he only asked for mine.

[sysardman]

This has also happened to me in a taxi in sukumvit area , I always carry a copy of my passport on me which I gave to the policeman, he asked me to get out of the taxi which I refused to do.

I had a Thai friend with me who said something to the policeman , he gave me back my passport copy and slammed the taxi door, was not too happy about something. My Thai friend was not able to explain to me in English what it was all about but I got the impression that the police were after some money...what a surprise that is.

I suspect it has something to do with showing correct ID but he only asked for mine.

There's a pattern emerging here with all these 'it happened to me' posts - stopped by big bad corrupt cops, questioned, patted down and then!!!!!!!! waved on my way with my wallet and person intact.

[MrMarquis]

I got stopped and searched this morning at 10:30am. I was on the back of a motorcycle taxi on the corner of Petchburi and Suk soi 3 - there is a blind corner that two cops were hiding behind. They told me to empty my pockets, and as I emptied my front pockets and handed the stuff to one cop, the other one went around behind me and shoved his hands into my back pockets. I was freaking out because of the possibility of a plant. They did a half assed search for drugs but in retrospect it's clear that they were really looking for money - they went over my wallet with a fine toothed comb, but there were a bunch of other places I could have had something hidden that they didn't look at. I also had to pull out my moneybelt under my pants that I keep my passport in, but they didn't want to see my passport - they just looked inside the moneybelt.

I only had about 70 baht in the main part of my wallet at the time so I didn't have to give anyone any money, and luckily they missed the 1000 baht note I had folded up in one of interior compartments of my wallet. Also I didn't have a helmet on, so I was surprised they didn't try to "fine" me. I think they thought I was too poor to be worth extorting.

[whistleblower]

I was pulled from a taxi at Asok and Rama 4, searched and then urine-tested. When my urine came up clean, an officer joked that I should drink it since it was OK. I laughed but when I started to get back in my taxi a second cop blocked my way and suggested the same thing, and he wasn't smiling. At that I pulled out my cellphone and said I was calling my lawyer. The other cop said 'That wont' be necessary' and they let me get in the cab and be on my way.

The next day I did call a Thai lawyer, a friend who practices civll law and teaches at Thammasat U. He said every move they had made was illegal, including the original search because they did not have probable cause or a warrant. But he said the police pretty much rule the roost at night and you just have to take whatever comes or not go out at night at all. He also said that it's much worse since PT came to power as Chalerm and the other PT police contingents have told the police 'Now is your time to take as many bribes as you like with impunity'. According to my lawyer friend, what the PT/reds ask in return is for the police to resist the next time the army takes to the streets.

Yes it's a bit of a conpiracy theory but he says it's what a lot of people are saying as a way of explaining the steep increase in taxi passenger searches since Yingluck came in.

Whatever the reasoning behind, by every account the situation is much worse these days. Every expat I know has been searched at least once when out after midnight in Bkk.

Well if they were really corrupt they would have slipped a little something into your sample - sounds like they were just a bit miffed at not getting 'tea money'

So thats alright then? Not corrupt just wanted money for nothing?

[whistleblower]

Whichever country you to choose to live in, abide by the rules, and if it is Thailand you won't have problems.

The RTP in my experience are more effective than the UK Police.

And just how can you justify that?

[whistleblower]

I usually just empty out my pockets for them. I don't allow anyone to put his or her hand into my pockets.

Was stopped at about 10.00 p.m. last week Friday and asked to get out of the car to answer lots of questions.

One was, "Where are you coming from this late?" It was just ten and I was actually alone on my way home.

By just emptying out your pockets for them is like giving them a green light to do it to others. What had you done wrong? i suspect nothing, so why put up with this bulls #@t? Reasonable cause is the only reason they can stop you. Driving home in a car at 10pm is NOT reasonable cause.

[whistleblower]

For a start I have been polite I have not sworn at you for having a particular point of view and I dont expect you to do it to me. I think it is crystal clear what I am complaining about I have said it in 3 replies to you, Im not going to take up space by multi-quoting it back to you. TBH if you want to blindly support all RTP activity then feel free I dont really care. I have a point of view gained through experience. My experiences are not unique, not even uncommon. I think I have stated what my issues are and also given a balanced point of view. I am NOT against drug suppression or stop and search. However I am never going to convince someone like you, so I wont try!!

I'm not sure if your reply was directed at me but if it was then at no point in my post did I swear at you. As for my views on the RTP, I am not whole-heartedly supporting them but I do get upset when people say they are such devils and the western police are such angels. I'd say they're about par, some good some bad.

Absolute rubbish!!! where are you from?? you can honestly say the police in your country are as inept/corrupt morally defunct as the thai police??

[sysardman]

For a start I have been polite I have not sworn at you for having a particular point of view and I dont expect you to do it to me. I think it is crystal clear what I am complaining about I have said it in 3 replies to you, Im not going to take up space by multi-quoting it back to you. TBH if you want to blindly support all RTP activity then feel free I dont really care. I have a point of view gained through experience. My experiences are not unique, not even uncommon. I think I have stated what my issues are and also given a balanced point of view. I am NOT against drug suppression or stop and search. However I am never going to convince someone like you, so I wont try!!

I'm not sure if your reply was directed at me but if it was then at no point in my post did I swear at you. As for my views on the RTP, I am not whole-heartedly supporting them but I do get upset when people say they are such devils and the western police are such angels. I'd say they're about par, some good some bad.

Absolute rubbish!!! where are you from?? you can honestly say the police in your country are as inept/corrupt morally defunct as the thai police??

Yes I can wholeheartedly - open your eyes man, they just get the money in other ways like controversial speed traps, claiming overtime they don't work, selling drugs from evidence lockers etc etc etc etc. Thai police are underpaid and get their perks one way, UK/US police get good pay, good benefits, good pensions, both are stuffing the public in their own ways.

[sysardman]

I was pulled from a taxi at Asok and Rama 4, searched and then urine-tested. When my urine came up clean, an officer joked that I should drink it since it was OK. I laughed but when I started to get back in my taxi a second cop blocked my way and suggested the same thing, and he wasn't smiling. At that I pulled out my cellphone and said I was calling my lawyer. The other cop said 'That wont' be necessary' and they let me get in the cab and be on my way.

The next day I did call a Thai lawyer, a friend who practices civll law and teaches at Thammasat U. He said every move they had made was illegal, including the original search because they did not have probable cause or a warrant. But he said the police pretty much rule the roost at night and you just have to take whatever comes or not go out at night at all. He also said that it's much worse since PT came to power as Chalerm and the other PT police contingents have told the police 'Now is your time to take as many bribes as you like with impunity'. According to my lawyer friend, what the PT/reds ask in return is for the police to resist the next time the army takes to the streets.

Yes it's a bit of a conpiracy theory but he says it's what a lot of people are saying as a way of explaining the steep increase in taxi passenger searches since Yingluck came in.

Whatever the reasoning behind, by every account the situation is much worse these days. Every expat I know has been searched at least once when out after midnight in Bkk.

Well if they were really corrupt they would have slipped a little something into your sample - sounds like they were just a bit miffed at not getting 'tea money'

So thats alright then? Not corrupt just wanted money for nothing?

I've yet to read a post where any 'it happened to me'er' has paid a fine even though some have actually broken a law. Of course the BiB will try it on with the salary they get and I bet you would too in their shoes.

[whistleblower]

For a start I have been polite I have not sworn at you for having a particular point of view and I dont expect you to do it to me. I think it is crystal clear what I am complaining about I have said it in 3 replies to you, Im not going to take up space by multi-quoting it back to you. TBH if you want to blindly support all RTP activity then feel free I dont really care. I have a point of view gained through experience. My experiences are not unique, not even uncommon. I think I have stated what my issues are and also given a balanced point of view. I am NOT against drug suppression or stop and search. However I am never going to convince someone like you, so I wont try!!

I'm not sure if your reply was directed at me but if it was then at no point in my post did I swear at you. As for my views on the RTP, I am not whole-heartedly supporting them but I do get upset when people say they are such devils and the western police are such angels. I'd say they're about par, some good some bad.

Absolute rubbish!!! where are you from?? you can honestly say the police in your country are as inept/corrupt morally defunct as the thai police??

Yes I can wholeheartedly - open your eyes man, they just get the money in other ways like controversial speed traps, claiming overtime they don't work, selling drugs from evidence lockers etc etc etc etc. Thai police are underpaid and get their perks one way, UK/US police get good pay, good benefits, good pensions, both are stuffing the public in their own ways.

And what proof do you have of this activity by western police?

[whistleblower]

I was pulled from a taxi at Asok and Rama 4, searched and then urine-tested. When my urine came up clean, an officer joked that I should drink it since it was OK. I laughed but when I started to get back in my taxi a second cop blocked my way and suggested the same thing, and he wasn't smiling. At that I pulled out my cellphone and said I was calling my lawyer. The other cop said 'That wont' be necessary' and they let me get in the cab and be on my way.

The next day I did call a Thai lawyer, a friend who practices civll law and teaches at Thammasat U. He said every move they had made was illegal, including the original search because they did not have probable cause or a warrant. But he said the police pretty much rule the roost at night and you just have to take whatever comes or not go out at night at all. He also said that it's much worse since PT came to power as Chalerm and the other PT police contingents have told the police 'Now is your time to take as many bribes as you like with impunity'. According to my lawyer friend, what the PT/reds ask in return is for the police to resist the next time the army takes to the streets.

Yes it's a bit of a conpiracy theory but he says it's what a lot of people are saying as a way of explaining the steep increase in taxi passenger searches since Yingluck came in.

Whatever the reasoning behind, by every account the situation is much worse these days. Every expat I know has been searched at least once when out after midnight in Bkk.

Well if they were really corrupt they would have slipped a little something into your sample - sounds like they were just a bit miffed at not getting 'tea money'

So thats alright then? Not corrupt just wanted money for nothing?

I've yet to read a post where any 'it happened to me'er' has paid a fine even though some have actually broken a law. Of course the BiB will try it on with the salary they get and I bet you would too in their shoes.

Just a thought, maybe the reason you havent read a post 'it happened to me and i paid' is because the people posting here, live here and know the score? The reason the police are active in those areas are to catch the 'tourists' who are unaware of what they are like, get shit scared cos they are in a foreign country and dont speak the language and will pay a couple of hundred baht just to get back to the safety of their hotel?.....and then incidently go home to their country of origin, tell their friends of their bad experiences and thus put off a few more people wanting to visit Thailand.

[sysardman]

I'm not sure if your reply was directed at me but if it was then at no point in my post did I swear at you. As for my views on the RTP, I am not whole-heartedly supporting them but I do get upset when people say they are such devils and the western police are such angels. I'd say they're about par, some good some bad.

Absolute rubbish!!! where are you from?? you can honestly say the police in your country are as inept/corrupt morally defunct as the thai police??

Yes I can wholeheartedly - open your eyes man, they just get the money in other ways like controversial speed traps, claiming overtime they don't work, selling drugs from evidence lockers etc etc etc etc. Thai police are underpaid and get their perks one way, UK/US police get good pay, good benefits, good pensions, both are stuffing the public in their own ways.

And what proof do you have of this activity by western police?

Which activity do you want me to prove - if I Google something you'll say 'oh you can't believe what's in the papers' but you are willing to believe rubbish posted on TV. You show me your proof and I'll show you mine - agreed

[sysardman]

Well if they were really corrupt they would have slipped a little something into your sample - sounds like they were just a bit miffed at not getting 'tea money'

So thats alright then? Not corrupt just wanted money for nothing?

I've yet to read a post where any 'it happened to me'er' has paid a fine even though some have actually broken a law. Of course the BiB will try it on with the salary they get and I bet you would too in their shoes.

Just a thought, maybe the reason you havent read a post 'it happened to me and i paid' is because the people posting here, live here and know the score? The reason the police are active in those areas are to catch the 'tourists' who are unaware of what they are like, get shit scared cos they are in a foreign country and dont speak the language and will pay a couple of hundred baht just to get back to the safety of their hotel?.....and then incidently go home to their country of origin, tell their friends of their bad experiences and thus put off a few more people wanting to visit Thailand.

For gods sake we're talking 4 quid and yet I can go home and drop a piece of litter and be fined 75 quid.

[whistleblower]

Dropping litter is a well publicised offence (signs in the streets) Going home at 10 pm in a taxi and having to go past soi 22/asoke is not a publicised offence!!

The relative cheapness of 'being on your way' doesnt detract from the fact that its illegal and pisses people off. If you drop litter in the UK it IS a fine because its been deemed an offence. Tell me you would be ok to be on your way home in a taxi in your own country and get shaken down by police for merely 'going home'

[sysardman]

Dropping litter is a well publicised offence (signs in the streets) Going home at 10 pm in a taxi and having to go past soi 22/asoke is not a publicised offence!!

The relative cheapness of 'being on your way' doesnt detract from the fact that its illegal and pisses people off. If you drop litter in the UK it IS a fine because its been deemed an offence. Tell me you would be ok to be on your way home in a taxi in your own country and get shaken down by police for merely 'going home'

If you remember the OP didn't have ID and was let off, no fine, nothing, zilch, zero, is it sinking in yet!!!!!

[whistleblower]

Dropping litter is a well publicised offence (signs in the streets) Going home at 10 pm in a taxi and having to go past soi 22/asoke is not a publicised offence!!

The relative cheapness of 'being on your way' doesnt detract from the fact that its illegal and pisses people off. If you drop litter in the UK it IS a fine because its been deemed an offence. Tell me you would be ok to be on your way home in a taxi in your own country and get shaken down by police for merely 'going home'

If you remember the OP didn't have ID and was let off, no fine, nothing, zilch, zero, is it sinking in yet!!!!!

I wasnt talking about the OP, I was talking about your acceptance to pay '4 quid' and be on your way for doing nothing wrong

[Nisa]

Just a thought, maybe the reason you havent read a post 'it happened to me and i paid' is because the people posting here, live here and know the score? The reason the police are active in those areas are to catch the 'tourists' who are unaware of what they are like, get shit scared cos they are in a foreign country and dont speak the language and will pay a couple of hundred baht just to get back to the safety of their hotel?.....and then incidently go home to their country of origin, tell their friends of their bad experiences and thus put off a few more people wanting to visit Thailand.

Given the ever increasing number of visitors and passengers arriving by plane, i guess word of mouth isn't spreading that much.

But am curious to know your story of being robbed by the police. Did they say they know you have done nothing wrong but want some money or they will kill, beat or lock you up because we prefer to get a couple hundred baht from somebody doing nothing wrong that grabbing the vast number of people in plain sight doing things wrong like not wearing a helmet?

[Nisa]

Dropping litter is a well publicised offence (signs in the streets) Going home at 10 pm in a taxi and having to go past soi 22/asoke is not a publicised offence!!

The relative cheapness of 'being on your way' doesnt detract from the fact that its illegal and pisses people off. If you drop litter in the UK it IS a fine because its been deemed an offence. Tell me you would be ok to be on your way home in a taxi in your own country and get shaken down by police for merely 'going home'

If you remember the OP didn't have ID and was let off, no fine, nothing, zilch, zero, is it sinking in yet!!!!!

But you are forgetting the entire reason for the stop was to extort money or plant drugs

[sysardman]

Dropping litter is a well publicised offence (signs in the streets) Going home at 10 pm in a taxi and having to go past soi 22/asoke is not a publicised offence!!

The relative cheapness of 'being on your way' doesnt detract from the fact that its illegal and pisses people off. If you drop litter in the UK it IS a fine because its been deemed an offence. Tell me you would be ok to be on your way home in a taxi in your own country and get shaken down by police for merely 'going home'

If you remember the OP didn't have ID and was let off, no fine, nothing, zilch, zero, is it sinking in yet!!!!!

I wasnt talking about the OP, I was talking about your acceptance to pay '4 quid' and be on your way for doing nothing wrong

Well here we go again where are these people that have paid fines for doing nothing wrong, I've paid a fine because I didn't wear a helmet no argument.

As for the litter fines, when I was younger the councils employed street cleaners who were proud to have a job and proud to keep their patches clean. Today the corrupt councils have pilfered the money, they employ less street cleaners, they don't provide litter bins because they are scared terrorists will plant bombs or they will be vandalised and then they fine you because you don't want to put a stinking smelly fish and chip paper in your pocket.

[whistleblower]

Just a thought, maybe the reason you havent read a post 'it happened to me and i paid' is because the people posting here, live here and know the score? The reason the police are active in those areas are to catch the 'tourists' who are unaware of what they are like, get shit scared cos they are in a foreign country and dont speak the language and will pay a couple of hundred baht just to get back to the safety of their hotel?.....and then incidently go home to their country of origin, tell their friends of their bad experiences and thus put off a few more people wanting to visit Thailand.

Given the ever increasing number of visitors and passengers arriving by plane, i guess word of mouth isn't spreading that much.

But am curious to know your story of being robbed by the police. Did they say they know you have done nothing wrong but want some money or they will kill, beat or lock you up because we prefer to get a couple hundred baht from somebody doing nothing wrong that grabbing the vast number of people in plain sight doing things wrong like not wearing a helmet?

Dont quite understand your point. But if your trying to say that the police prefer to chase real 'criminasl' for not wearing helmets than an easy pick tourist then i think your wrrong

[whistleblower]

Dropping litter is a well publicised offence (signs in the streets) Going home at 10 pm in a taxi and having to go past soi 22/asoke is not a publicised offence!!

The relative cheapness of 'being on your way' doesnt detract from the fact that its illegal and pisses people off. If you drop litter in the UK it IS a fine because its been deemed an offence. Tell me you would be ok to be on your way home in a taxi in your own country and get shaken down by police for merely 'going home'

If you remember the OP didn't have ID and was let off, no fine, nothing, zilch, zero, is it sinking in yet!!!!!

I wasnt talking about the OP, I was talking about your acceptance to pay '4 quid' and be on your way for doing nothing wrong

Well here we go again where are these people that have paid fines for doing nothing wrong, I've paid a fine because I didn't wear a helmet no argument.

As for the litter fines, when I was younger the councils employed street cleaners who were proud to have a job and proud to keep their patches clean. Today the corrupt councils have pilfered the money, they employ less street cleaners, they don't provide litter bins because they are scared terrorists will plant bombs or they will be vandalised and then they fine you because you don't want to put a stinking smelly fish and chip paper in your pocket.

So your of the ilk to eat your supper walking the street?