10 Year Bali Bombing Anniversary

[krisb]

I couldn't see it in the world news section of TV, so perhaps moderators wish to move.

Its the 10 year anniversary of the Bali bombings today.

This is tragic story close to alot of hearts, especially many Aussies.

I thought I would mention this because I know theres alot of folks living in Thailand and may not be aware. I know its not quite Thailand related exactly but it is in other ways personal to many.

Peace to all!!

[theblether]

There are several reports on the BBC website, 27 Britons lost their life. I read this week that the idea was conceived in a hotel room in Thailand, a guy called Hambali came up with the idea of targeting soft targets instead of embassies and the like. The idea then spread through the South East Asia terrorist network until a local "commander" came up with the specific targets in Bali, here are some of the reports.......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19917230

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19898447

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rnwall-19797155

http://www.bbc.co.uk...d-asia-19881138

It Is it Thai related? I would say so, it may be a tenuous link as the idea merely germinated in a meeting in Thailand but there is no doubt, it is patently obvious, that there are Islamic terrorists at work in Thailand every single day. This is a topic of Remembrance for the victims and their families, and a reminder to everyone not to walk around in a daze. Terrorism is a clear and present daily danger in certain parts of Thailand, and we have seen plots in Bangkok already this year.

This was a diabolical and cowardly attack, and these terrorists can only be described as just that, cowards, the true scum of the earth.

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[Sing_Sling]

[webfact]

In honor of the victims, this topic remains open.

Please don't derail it with political discussions.

This is not the place for it.

Thank you

/Admin

[giddyup]

There are several reports on the BBC website, 27 Britons lost their life. I read this week that the idea was conceived in a hotel room in Thailand, a guy called Hambali came up with the idea of targeting soft targets instead of embassies and the like. The idea then spread through the South East Asia terrorist network until a local "commander" came up with the specific targets in Bali, here are some of the reports.......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19917230

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19898447

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rnwall-19797155

http://www.bbc.co.uk...d-asia-19881138

It Is it Thai related? I would say so, it may be a tenuous link as the idea merely germinated in a meeting in Thailand but there is no doubt, it is patently obvious, that there are Islamic terrorists at work in Thailand every single day. This is a topic of Remembrance for the victims and their families, and a reminder to everyone not to walk around in a daze. Terrorism is a clear and present daily danger in certain parts of Thailand, and we have seen plots in Bangkok already this year.

This was a diabolical and cowardly attack, and these terrorists can only be described as just that, cowards, the true scum of the earth.

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At least the scum who committed the atrocity are no longer with us.

[Vale Tudo]

I was in Bali and left just three months before this happened,there was a lot of tension on the streets of Kuta then.My local bar there was opposite the Sari Club,it was a huge,two-storey Irish Bar called Paddy's.

The bomb that took out the Sari Club was so big it took out both sides of the road,I believe it was actually the second bomb to detonate that fateful night.I've seen photos of Paddy's since and it's just a pile of breeze/cinder blocks with some grass growing over it.It's odds on that had I been in Bali still at that time,I would have been in Paddy's,probably with my girlfriend.

The greatest shame is that although they have now erected a garden of remembrance for the Aussie and Westerners that died in the blasts,the figures are not correct for Indonesians that died.

The Sari Club was the main pickup joint for Westerners and Indonesian girls,like Soi Cowboy or Nana in Bangkok,Tiger in Patong etc.There were many more girls lost their lives in the bombings that have not been recorded.Probably a lot of them Javanese,from the capital Jakarta and other places like Sulawesi etc.

These are girls that had mothers and fathers,whose families they just never returned to.Maybe some with kids also,like here in Thailand staying with the grandparents that never went back again.The parents and kids don't know why and have no clue what happened to their beloved daughters,kids orphaned overnight.

This to me is the saddest legacy of the Bali bombings,like I said but for the grace of God go I!

R.I.P. to all & I do mean all,who died.

[SteeleJoe]

Riduan Isamuddin -- aka "Hambali" -- is relevant Thailand. I wrote a lot about this guy (elsewhere) and Jemmaah Islamiah (the group for which he led military operations and the al Queda affiliate in SEA) even before Bali but I remeber being accused of scaremongering and Islamaphobia at the time.

He was bad dude and more significant than what's indicated in the above posts: he was either a Osama bin Laden right hand guy, 3rd in command of al Q or a well regarded peer (depending on what sources/interpretations you choose). He was reportedly very close to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (al Q leader and mastermind of 9/11) and he was at least tangentially connected to "Operation Bojinka" -- which would have dwarfed 9/11 in scale and horror.

Thailand was one of his primary bases and hideouts and this is where the CIA caught up with him. When captured he and his cohorts allegedly had some very nasty plans for Bangkok. He's now a guest of the United States residing in a picturesque bay in Cuba.

[SteeleJoe]

Good -- but sad -- post Vale Tudo. Thank you.

[Vale Tudo]

Riduan Isamuddin -- aka "Hambali" -- is relevant Thailand. I wrote a lot about this guy (elsewhere) and Jemmaah Islamiah (the group for which he led military operations and the al Queda affiliate in SEA) even before Bali but I remeber being accused of scaremongering and Islamaphobia at the time.

He was bad dude and more significant than what's indicated in the above posts: he was either a Osama bin Laden right hand guy, 3rd in command of al Q or a well regarded peer (depending on what sources/interpretations you choose). He was reportedly very close to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (al Q leader and mastermind of 9/11) and he was at least tangentially connected to "Operation Bojinka" -- which would have dwarfed 9/11 in scale and horror.

Thailand was one of his primary bases and hideouts and this is where the CIA caught up with him. When captured he and his cohorts allegedly had some very nasty plans for Bangkok. He's now a guest of the United States residing in a picturesque bay in Cuba.

Let's hope he's listening to plenty of this :

Guantanamera (Girl from Guantanamo Bay!)

[SteeleJoe]

Riduan Isamuddin -- aka "Hambali" -- is relevant Thailand. I wrote a lot about this guy (elsewhere) and Jemmaah Islamiah (the group for which he led military operations and the al Queda affiliate in SEA) even before Bali but I remeber being accused of scaremongering and Islamaphobia at the time.

He was bad dude and more significant than what's indicated in the above posts: he was either a Osama bin Laden right hand guy, 3rd in command of al Q or a well regarded peer (depending on what sources/interpretations you choose). He was reportedly very close to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (al Q leader and mastermind of 9/11) and he was at least tangentially connected to "Operation Bojinka" -- which would have dwarfed 9/11 in scale and horror.

Thailand was one of his primary bases and hideouts and this is where the CIA caught up with him. When captured he and his cohorts allegedly had some very nasty plans for Bangkok. He's now a guest of the United States residing in a picturesque bay in Cuba.

Let's hope he's listening to plenty of this :

Guantanamera (Girl from Guantanamo Bay!)

Heh. (I feel guilty laughing about Gitmo but that did bringa chuckle)

On a side note of interest to no one I'm sure (but what the hell): Guantanamo -- and even that song! -- always had a different significance for me -- my mother (daughter of a 30 year Navy officer) spent some of her childhood living there when it was used for far less nefarious purposes, and some beloved family lore involves it.

I think Mom and my aunt had a much better time on that base than most of its current occupants.

[Vale Tudo]

Obviously this is a subject that is very personal to me but even now,I struggle to come to terms with the evil that it must take to engineer such an atrocity!

To detonate a first explosion,to funnel people to the exit doors,knowing that they are heading for a bigger blast coming next,what sort of people sit down and plan things like this out?

Maybe just the fact that there was so many working girls,local Indonesian girls that the Government couldn't possibly report that died namelessly,prompted the Government to put these bastards to death?

I sincerely hope so,at least then those young lives weren't taken completely in vain.Their lives served a purpose after all,to rid the world of the scum that perpetrated this vile act of terrorism!

One can only hope!

[Rancid]

The evils of Islam have no bounds or morality. However it is worth moting that it was the Indonesians, working with the Australian Federal Police, that relentlessly tracked down the perpetrators and brought them to trial. This again highlights that Islamaphobia is not the answer where decent Muslims are willing to try and stomp out this evil. Full credit to the Indonesian government's reaction to a tragic time in Australia's (and of course the other nations affected) history.