We Lost To Evil: Rally Leader

[MAJIC]

Boo Hoo the Thai elite, yellow shirts failed. Lets feel sorry for the rich and powerful of Thailand who are no longer in control and able to rape the country of it's wealth. There are others with their snouts in their yellow bowl and they don't like it.

So they have only changed who gets to be included in feeding time,and not the system then?

[Yunla]

Had the red shirts been truly a oppressed group, and not just a mercenary terrorist organisation, they would have spawned a leader organically. Someone from the common man rank and file, with a gift for eloquence who's words crystallized the struggles, and the yearning to be free, of their people. That person would have then lead the red shirt movement from the front line, not fearing any one or any thing, having already come to terms with the very good possibility of martyrdom. He or she would have lead them in peaceful protest, with a clear and defined agenda that spelled out peace with dignity and inclusion.

But no, the red shirts have a cowardly, greedy, cold blooded, criminal financier that pays off what unscrupulous savages he can, and has his minions terrorise everyone else, while he pulls the strings from afar hiding behind his empty headed, semi-illiterate, kid sister.

Hence why I believe the General and his people are fighting the good fight, and like Dr. Kings quote says "Right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant"

I commend your analysis, and your clearly heartfelt views. I agree with you that a legitimate party representing the workers, should have a leader who has worked in the fields or factories, nursing, etc. or otherwise had a real life in the working class environment which their political agenda claims to represent. I also agree with you that PTP and the familial crime-cartel at its PTP's core, are entirely removed from the working classes they claim to represent. The Lady and her greedy henchmen, are not field-workers, and of course Thaksin is an international billionaire corporate crime-lord with deeply subterranean influences & pacts. Its hard to really wear a straight face when people on this forum talk about 'the voice of the people, the people have spoken, look at all the Ptp votes' etc. The people are poorly educated, oppressed, desperate for change, and will vote for anything that promises change. Most people want to believe that of the two party choices they're been given, they have chosen the best option & the 'new direction'.

Yingluck never represented working class Thais, nor did she represent a positive change for the future, but this is how she was 'sold' in the election. A step forward for all women etc. A step backward infact, when you understand that she takes orders from a man, and a dangerous fleeing gangster murderer man at that.

The rally here, which was met with teargas, along with the rally earlier this year with the sonic-cannons, shows the difference between Thailand under Yingluck, and Thailand under Abhisit. Abhisit let people protest in Bangkok for three months, and sent in food and supplies and nurses to help the protestors even though they (redshirts) were on stage talking about burning Bangkok to the ground and killing all elites etc. Funny how Abhisit let the protesters carry on protesting for months, but Yingluck sends in the sonic cannons and teargas on day one. The difference is that Abhisit is a politician, and was trying to promote an open discussion climate of debate, whereas the Shinawatra gangster cartel is not a politically-minded group, it is a corporate crime syndicate and will not allow dissent that affects their profits or power. See also PTP parliament member giving home addresses of dissenting citizens who oppose PTP policies, to angry mobs of thugs earlier in 2012.

The people organising and attending this rally are reflecting the growing awareness in Thailand, that the legitimate complaints of the rural & urban poor were hijacked by a ruthless fascist crime family using slick advertising and 21'st century marketing muscle. People at this rally are reflecting the increasing feeling that people were sold an enormous lie with PTP, with their truckloads of broken Chinese computer tablets, corruption-friendly rice-schemes, a leader who refuses to speak unscripted or debate in parliament, a leader who is almost extra-terrestrially distant to the normal working Thais, and a glossy but vacant policy-package which is sickly sweet but unfilling.

Edited November 25, 2012 by Yunla

[McMagus]

What I find so intriguing here are the number of Tv posters who so vehemently claim that this present government is the most corrupt in the universe and as such must be outed by any means, even a coup. Without straying off topic, I would point out that many governments are corrupt. That is why people choose politics so as to enable them to direct their corruption. Take the well known link between Dick Chaney, G.W. Bush and Haliburton. The following act 'Honest Leadership and Accountability in Contracting Act of 2006' was put up by the democrats to stop corruption in the awarding and payment of contracts in the Iraq war but was voted down by the Republicans. My point is to those of you screaming for the blood of the Yingluck government yes they are corrupt but so too was the Bush administration yet the Americans did not call for a military coup...they accepted the election results until the next time round. This is what Thailand has yet to learn, that in a democracy almost half of the population may not get what they want BUT THEY ABIDE BY THE RESULTS.

This is why I have consistently said that Thailand does not have a democracy and will not until that fine distinction is understood.

As for Boonlert.. what a joke.

[MAJIC]

Most coups in Thailand happened because of Army or some other high profile people in Thailand,so Thaksin did the right thing to try to control all of them.Until those people are still in power,Thailand will never move on.What really scares me are sentences like" I am ready to be arrested by police for publicising clips of red-shirt leaders allegedly committing lese majeste offences"By Gen Boonlert,or when Gen.Boonlert calls his army friends,it reminds me of former east germany were 50% of population worked for the stasi and tried to to put the other 50% into prison,makes me wonder who is evil

One side wants a coup and the other side wants to go back to Thaksin ... which would probably lead to a lot more protests and a coup.

Most people want to move forward without Thaksin and without a coup.

PTP are in government. Can't they just be happy with that and start running the country for all the people?

No! PTP are running the Country for Thaksin with a Proxy PM,and his hand picked MPs. Do you really think they will ever run the Country for "all the people"?

[Moruya]

So now that the police are masters of the art of containing situations, we will see them deployed in the south protecting the population there and preventing the murder of any more teachers - 160 and counting.

[Buchholz]

People may take my post as they please, however note that I only said that the quote came to mind when I read the article. Not that I compare the issues thusly.

Had the red shirts been truly a oppressed group, and not just a mercenary terrorist organisation, the would have spawned a leader organically Someone from the common man rank and file, with a gift for eloquence who's words crystallized the struggles, and the yearning to be free, of their people. That person would have then lead the red shirt movement from the front line, not fearing any one or any thing, having already come to terms with the very good possibility of martyrdom. He or she would have lead them in peaceful protest with a clear and defined agenda that spelled out peace with dignity and inclusion.

But no, the red shirts have a cowardly, greedy, cold blooded, criminal financier that pays off what unscrupulous savages he can, and has his minions terrorist everyone else, while he pulls the strings from afar hiding behind his empty headed, semi-illiterate, kid sister.

Hence why I believe the General and his people are fighting the good fight, and like Dr. Kings quote says "Right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant"

I agree with the first three paragraphs; particularly on the issue of leadership. Red Shirts have said they are 20 million of them. Thida claims there will 40 million by 2017. Tens of millions and not one:

Someone from the common man rank and file, with a gift for eloquence who's words crystallized the struggles, and the yearning to be free, of their people. That person would have then lead the red shirt movement from the front line

If that person ever surfaces and the Red Shirts remove their Thaksin affiliation and thug contingent, their legitimacy would be unstoppable and very well could number 40 million at some point.

But in order to do that, Thida, Natthawut, Jatuporn, Arisaman, Issan Rambo, Kwanchai, etc. will have to have been long gone from the Red Shirts.

I do disagree with the last paragraph. The general is not the answer. The good fight is made by focusing on the PS issues that resound with the populace (accountability and dealing with corruption). The general sideline those earlier issues with the coup aspect taking center stage. If he had channeled the focus on the former and dropped the latter, it would have had much greater support.

When the group inside PS left Dr. King's non-violence teachings, even though for Thailand's recent history their actions were practically miniscule, they also ceased to fight the good fight according to his beliefs.

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[McMagus]

Zatoichi and Yunla

...you guys sure you have used enough adjectives ... I haven't quite got your message ... you don't like Thaksin and Yinluck? right ?

[Thai at Heart]

People may take my post as they please. However, please note, that I only said that the quote came to mind when I read the article. Not that I compare the issues.

Had the red shirts been truly a oppressed group, and not just a mercenary terrorist organisation, they would have spawned a leader organically. Someone from the common man rank and file, with a gift for eloquence who's words crystallized the struggles, and the yearning to be free, of their people. That person would have then lead the red shirt movement from the front line, not fearing any one or any thing, having already come to terms with the very good possibility of martyrdom. He or she would have lead them in peaceful protest, with a clear and defined agenda that spelled out peace with dignity and inclusion.

But no, the red shirts have a cowardly, greedy, cold blooded, criminal financier that pays off what unscrupulous savages he can, and has his minions terrorise everyone else, while he pulls the strings from afar hiding behind his empty headed, semi-illiterate, kid sister.

Hence why I believe the General and his people are fighting the good fight, and like Dr. Kings quote says "Right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant"

Except it's not a discussion about Thaksin and the florid language you use indicates you have difficulty in striking a reasonable balance.I have reservations about THaksin too but he was undoubtedly a catalyst, and remains by far the most popular male politician in the country.I am uncomfortable about treating the views of millions of Thais with such scorn (or retreat into the absurd copout that they have been brainwashed or "brought.)"You, perhaps oblivious of the obvious consequences, invoked the memory of Dr King and I responded with the reminder he would without doubt have been on the side of the redshirts: you half seem to be suggesting that you are too but you can't quite get round to saying it.

Then by all means let me clarify. I am in no way behind the red shirts in any way shape or form. I respect the monarchy, I live in and love Bangkok.

Before Taksin, I don't think there was significant cause for revolt amongst Thailand's rural people. Lest a real leader, like someone with the qualities I mentioned earlier, would have developed and succeeded. What the red shirts are is a revolting perversion of a "For the people" movement, nothing more than mercenaries and greedy scum lured by a vacuum of power and the promises of free handouts. As for what Dr. King would say, or do, or feel, whom he might side with if any, I can't claim to say. He was a better man than I in that way and I won't try and put hypothetical words in the man's mouth.

I think you are dismissing the priviliged position that the Thai agribusiness export industry has put itself in largely through buying political favor to limit competition in their markets and essentially screw the Thai farmer for many many years. It was only a matter of time before a politician of any colour latched onto the fact that the margins that are obtained from food exports are largely mono or oligopoly profit at the expense of the little guy.

They have hidden behind the foreign bogey man as the enemy and have marched successfully to the bank for decades, whilst NO political party appeared to give a dam_n. All this whilst there were communist revolutions going on in neighboring countries. But no, Thailand took the capitalist model, kept foreign competition out of the market, and farmers were told this is as good as it gets. Well, times have changed now, and I don't agree with how PTP is attempting to achieve their economic goals for farmers, but it obviously hasn't been too hard to appeal to the needs of the poor politically has it?

This is because the Dems have NEVER even attempted to have a platform to address these issues until Thaksin came along. They let business go on as normal, because that was their political role.

Significant reason for revolt? How about being a exploited pauper, with no way out? That is usually reason enough in most parts of the world

Believe me, i know I worked for one such monopoly.

[Yunla]

Zatoichi and Yunla

...you guys sure you have used enough adjectives ... I haven't quite got your message ... you don't like Thaksin and Yinluck? right ?

I don't like Thaksin because he is a mass-murderer and a grand-larcenist, a coward and a traitor. I don't like Yingluck because she stands by him & his crimes, and she walks in his bloodstained footprints. You can tie your colours to Thaksin's flagpole, and support his friends like Hun Sen the mass-murderer & mass-torturer, that Thaksin visits and gives big loving best buddy hugs to for the cameras.

[philw]

The bile on here is amazing.

Pity that another paper reports a 74.4% percent approval rating for Yinglucks ability to weather the censure debate.

She has a mandate, accept it.

Nice to see Yunla back...........

[MrSlatersParrot]

People may take my post as they please. However, please note, that I only said that the quote came to mind when I read the article. Not that I compare the issues.

Had the red shirts been truly a oppressed group, and not just a mercenary terrorist organisation, they would have spawned a leader organically. Someone from the common man rank and file, with a gift for eloquence who's words crystallized the struggles, and the yearning to be free, of their people. That person would have then lead the red shirt movement from the front line, not fearing any one or any thing, having already come to terms with the very good possibility of martyrdom. He or she would have lead them in peaceful protest, with a clear and defined agenda that spelled out peace with dignity and inclusion.

But no, the red shirts have a cowardly, greedy, cold blooded, criminal financier that pays off what unscrupulous savages he can, and has his minions terrorise everyone else, while he pulls the strings from afar hiding behind his empty headed, semi-illiterate, kid sister.

Hence why I believe the General and his people are fighting the good fight, and like Dr. Kings quote says "Right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant"

Except it's not a discussion about Thaksin and the florid language you use indicates you have difficulty in striking a reasonable balance.I have reservations about THaksin too but he was undoubtedly a catalyst, and remains by far the most popular male politician in the country.I am uncomfortable about treating the views of millions of Thais with such scorn (or retreat into the absurd copout that they have been brainwashed or "brought.)"You, perhaps oblivious of the obvious consequences, invoked the memory of Dr King and I responded with the reminder he would without doubt have been on the side of the redshirts: you half seem to be suggesting that you are too but you can't quite get round to saying it.

Brought?

Tut tut.

I think your comments on Mister King do him a posthumous disservice. I can't for the life of me see him as a Thaksin minion

And I can't quite see abhisit being granted an audience with Nelson Mandela

[Thai at Heart]

Most coups in Thailand happened because of Army or some other high profile people in Thailand,so Thaksin did the right thing to try to control all of them.Until those people are still in power,Thailand will never move on.What really scares me are sentences like" I am ready to be arrested by police for publicising clips of red-shirt leaders allegedly committing lese majeste offences"By Gen Boonlert,or when Gen.Boonlert calls his army friends,it reminds me of former east germany were 50% of population worked for the stasi and tried to to put the other 50% into prison,makes me wonder who is evil

One side wants a coup and the other side wants to go back to Thaksin ... which would probably lead to a lot more protests and a coup.

Most people want to move forward without Thaksin and without a coup.

PTP are in government. Can't they just be happy with that and start running the country for all the people?

No! PTP are running the Country for Thaksin with a Proxy PM,and his hand picked MPs. Do you really think they will ever run the Country for "all the people"?

It is virtually impossible to run a country for the interests of all. Globally, any government runs itself according to the policies it put forward to suit enough of the people to get them to vote for it. These policies change moderately depending on the economic position of the country at the time. One part of society always wins financially over the other during the term of a government. That's politics and society building.

It is up to the parties to have policies palatable enough to a majority to win. I would suggest that posing policies that only attract the so called middle and upper classes in a society that has a majority living in what most of us would consider to be in poverty is akin to political suicide. We can all bemoan that the PTP policies aren't well thought out or good for the country in the long run, but which political party in the world considers the long run? NONE. The next 4 or 5 years is what counts.

So someone better come up with some better thought out and equally or more palatable policies that appeal to the MAJORITY of Thai's or PTP will romp home again.

[Moruya]

The bile on here is amazing.

Pity that another paper reports a 74.4% percent approval rating for Yinglucks ability to weather the censure debate.

She has a mandate, accept it.

Nice to see Yunla back...........

Wonder what the figure would be for government culpability

[Moruya]

People may take my post as they please. However, please note, that I only said that the quote came to mind when I read the article. Not that I compare the issues.

Had the red shirts been truly a oppressed group, and not just a mercenary terrorist organisation, they would have spawned a leader organically. Someone from the common man rank and file, with a gift for eloquence who's words crystallized the struggles, and the yearning to be free, of their people. That person would have then lead the red shirt movement from the front line, not fearing any one or any thing, having already come to terms with the very good possibility of martyrdom. He or she would have lead them in peaceful protest, with a clear and defined agenda that spelled out peace with dignity and inclusion.

But no, the red shirts have a cowardly, greedy, cold blooded, criminal financier that pays off what unscrupulous savages he can, and has his minions terrorise everyone else, while he pulls the strings from afar hiding behind his empty headed, semi-illiterate, kid sister.

Hence why I believe the General and his people are fighting the good fight, and like Dr. Kings quote says "Right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant"

Except it's not a discussion about Thaksin and the florid language you use indicates you have difficulty in striking a reasonable balance.I have reservations about THaksin too but he was undoubtedly a catalyst, and remains by far the most popular male politician in the country.I am uncomfortable about treating the views of millions of Thais with such scorn (or retreat into the absurd copout that they have been brainwashed or "brought.)"You, perhaps oblivious of the obvious consequences, invoked the memory of Dr King and I responded with the reminder he would without doubt have been on the side of the redshirts: you half seem to be suggesting that you are too but you can't quite get round to saying it.

Brought?

Tut tut.

I think your comments on Mister King do him a posthumous disservice. I can't for the life of me see him as a Thaksin minion

And I can't quite see abhisit being granted an audience with Nelson Mandela

What's that got to do with the price of rice?

[MrSlatersParrot]

What I find so intriguing here are the number of Tv posters who so vehemently claim that this present government is the most corrupt in the universe and as such must be outed by any means, even a coup. Without straying off topic, I would point out that many governments are corrupt. That is why people choose politics so as to enable them to direct their corruption. Take the well known link between Dick Chaney, G.W. Bush and Haliburton. The following act 'Honest Leadership and Accountability in Contracting Act of 2006' was put up by the democrats to stop corruption in the awarding and payment of contracts in the Iraq war but was voted down by the Republicans. My point is to those of you screaming for the blood of the Yingluck government yes they are corrupt but so too was the Bush administration yet the Americans did not call for a military coup...they accepted the election results until the next time round. This is what Thailand has yet to learn, that in a democracy almost half of the population may not get what they want BUT THEY ABIDE BY THE RESULTS.

This is why I have consistently said that Thailand does not have a democracy and will not until that fine distinction is understood.

As for Boonlert.. what a joke.

I think they believe if you repeat it enough times you'll get people to believe it as fact.

Never have any verifiable facts though to prove the corruption.

I remember in the UK during major's government the opposition liberals especially and labour would describe his government as the worst in our history.

So in the end new labour was elected.

Not a resounding success.

But they were elected.

Not for nothing are the dems called the cockroach party.

It will be amusing to see their antics over the next few days.

Who knows they might be a little subdued.

I somehow doubt it.

They may be calling for the nasty police men's heads

[tinfoilhat]

The army must be well pleased this particular general is retired. No clue at all on how to organise and capitulates at the first opposition.

should have asked Chamlöng and other yellow shirts for advise.

Chamlong is indeed one scary feckker.

the guy could bat th khmer rooughe at their own game if given the chance

Edited November 25, 2012 by tinfoilhat

[Moruya]

What I find so intriguing here are the number of Tv posters who so vehemently claim that this present government is the most corrupt in the universe and as such must be outed by any means, even a coup. Without straying off topic, I would point out that many governments are corrupt. That is why people choose politics so as to enable them to direct their corruption. Take the well known link between Dick Chaney, G.W. Bush and Haliburton. The following act 'Honest Leadership and Accountability in Contracting Act of 2006' was put up by the democrats to stop corruption in the awarding and payment of contracts in the Iraq war but was voted down by the Republicans. My point is to those of you screaming for the blood of the Yingluck government yes they are corrupt but so too was the Bush administration yet the Americans did not call for a military coup...they accepted the election results until the next time round. This is what Thailand has yet to learn, that in a democracy almost half of the population may not get what they want BUT THEY ABIDE BY THE RESULTS.

This is why I have consistently said that Thailand does not have a democracy and will not until that fine distinction is understood.

As for Boonlert.. what a joke.

I think they believe if you repeat it enough times you'll get people to believe it as fact.

Never have any verifiable facts though to prove the corruption.

I remember in the UK during major's government the opposition liberals especially and labour would describe his government as the worst in our history.

So in the end new labour was elected.

Not a resounding success.

But they were elected.

Not for nothing are the dems called the cockroach party.

It will be amusing to see their antics over the next few days.

Who knows they might be a little subdued.

I somehow doubt it.

They may be calling for the nasty police men's heads

What Dems are called the 'cockroach' party? You're making it up as you go!!!

[Buchholz]

What I find so intriguing here are the number of Tv posters who so vehemently claim that this present government is the most corrupt in the universe and as such must be outed by any means, even a coup.

What is the number of posters who have said what you claim they said?

It might be helpful if you replied to them directly with a reply to their quote of the above.

.

Edited November 25, 2012 by Buchholz

[Pimay1]

What I find so intriguing here are the number of Tv posters who so vehemently claim that this present government is the most corrupt in the universe and as such must be outed by any means, even a coup. Without straying off topic, I would point out that many governments are corrupt. That is why people choose politics so as to enable them to direct their corruption. Take the well known link between Dick Chaney, G.W. Bush and Haliburton. The following act 'Honest Leadership and Accountability in Contracting Act of 2006' was put up by the democrats to stop corruption in the awarding and payment of contracts in the Iraq war but was voted down by the Republicans. My point is to those of you screaming for the blood of the Yingluck government yes they are corrupt but so too was the Bush administration yet the Americans did not call for a military coup...they accepted the election results until the next time round. This is what Thailand has yet to learn, that in a democracy almost half of the population may not get what they want BUT THEY ABIDE BY THE RESULTS.

This is why I have consistently said that Thailand does not have a democracy and will not until that fine distinction is understood.

As for Boonlert.. what a joke.

Aaah yes the old worn out but...but...but Bush response.

[MrSlatersParrot]

Morula said:

What's that got to do with the price of rice?

I think it's because Mandela and dr king would give their support to the struggle of the peasantry against an entrenched feudal elite whereas yesterday's demonstration was all about jealousy

Ask any Thai and they'll tell you so.

Noses out of troughs and we want it now.

Call for the army we want it all.

Pure jealousy, covetous and pure hatred.

500 protestors working in concert at 9 in the morning to break through police barricades.

From the off they were organized

There was no half day stand-off or some such it was first thing "all together lads"

Only their number was 500 confronting thousands of police.

Your boys lost

And will continue to

[MrSlatersParrot]

What I find so intriguing here are the number of Tv posters who so vehemently claim that this present government is the most corrupt in the universe and as such must be outed by any means, even a coup. Without straying off topic, I would point out that many governments are corrupt. That is why people choose politics so as to enable them to direct their corruption. Take the well known link between Dick Chaney, G.W. Bush and Haliburton. The following act 'Honest Leadership and Accountability in Contracting Act of 2006' was put up by the democrats to stop corruption in the awarding and payment of contracts in the Iraq war but was voted down by the Republicans. My point is to those of you screaming for the blood of the Yingluck government yes they are corrupt but so too was the Bush administration yet the Americans did not call for a military coup...they accepted the election results until the next time round. This is what Thailand has yet to learn, that in a democracy almost half of the population may not get what they want BUT THEY ABIDE BY THE RESULTS.

This is why I have consistently said that Thailand does not have a democracy and will not until that fine distinction is understood.

As for Boonlert.. what a joke.

I think they believe if you repeat it enough times you'll get people to believe it as fact.

Never have any verifiable facts though to prove the corruption.

I remember in the UK during major's government the opposition liberals especially and labour would describe his government as the worst in our history.

So in the end new labour was elected.

Not a resounding success.

But they were elected.

Not for nothing are the dems called the cockroach party.

It will be amusing to see their antics over the next few days.

Who knows they might be a little subdued.

I somehow doubt it.

They may be calling for the nasty police men's heads

What Dems are called the 'cockroach' party? You're making it up as you go!!!

You don't know nuffing mate.

For your info Robert Amsterdam has pleaded with the reds to drop the customary dem nickname as it's not really civilized

But until they change their ways their stuck with it.

I wonder why they're called that?

[metisdead]

A flame post has been removed as well as the replies.

[Pimay1]

What I find so intriguing here are the number of Tv posters who so vehemently claim that this present government is the most corrupt in the universe and as such must be outed by any means, even a coup. Without straying off topic, I would point out that many governments are corrupt. That is why people choose politics so as to enable them to direct their corruption. Take the well known link between Dick Chaney, G.W. Bush and Haliburton. The following act 'Honest Leadership and Accountability in Contracting Act of 2006' was put up by the democrats to stop corruption in the awarding and payment of contracts in the Iraq war but was voted down by the Republicans. My point is to those of you screaming for the blood of the Yingluck government yes they are corrupt but so too was the Bush administration yet the Americans did not call for a military coup...they accepted the election results until the next time round. This is what Thailand has yet to learn, that in a democracy almost half of the population may not get what they want BUT THEY ABIDE BY THE RESULTS.

This is why I have consistently said that Thailand does not have a democracy and will not until that fine distinction is understood.

As for Boonlert.. what a joke.

I think they believe if you repeat it enough times you'll get people to believe it as fact.

Never have any verifiable facts though to prove the corruption.

I remember in the UK during major's government the opposition liberals especially and labour would describe his government as the worst in our history.

So in the end new labour was elected.

Not a resounding success.

But they were elected.

Not for nothing are the dems called the cockroach party.

It will be amusing to see their antics over the next few days.

Who knows they might be a little subdued.

I somehow doubt it.

They may be calling for the nasty police men's heads

What Dems are called the 'cockroach' party? You're making it up as you go!!!

You don't know nuffing mate.

For your info Robert Amsterdam has pleaded with the reds to drop the customary dem nickname as it's not really civilized

But until they change their ways their stuck with it.

I wonder why they're called that?

Do you really expect us to believe that the king of cockroaches Amsterdam is trying to get the reds to not call someone else a cockroach? What, is he jealous?

[Cnxforever]

so now what"s the "evil" government to do?

Find those masterminds behind the "puppet" Boonlert. Leaders of a protest group which advocated that the government should be ousted in an illegal / unconstitutional way should now be properly investigated and if evidence is found - prosecuted. I am sure all speaches / press statements have been recorded and will now be analyzed.

Fascist elements should have no place in any modern society and should be dealt with swiftly. Follow the money trail and find out where the financing of Pitak Siam came from - if Mr. Boonlert and other leaders have no prove or the money trail ends in the sand - they should be charged with money laundering.

Expose all those involved - the government owes this to the Thai people - they have elected this government and the have the right to know who is behind protests calling for the illegal removal of their elected government.

Protest speakers appart from Gen Boonlert during the first rally included the National Security Council's former secretary-general Prasong Soonsiri, and the Armed Forces Supreme Command's former chief adviser Gen. Pathompong Kesornsuk. Retired air vice-marshal, Vachara Riddhagni, was Pitak Siam's spokesperson.

So it should be clear to anybody who is behind this!

These are the people who are pulling the strings from behind testing the waters!

The army can not be seen yet taking sides as this time there would be popular opposition throwing the country into turmoil. So for the time being it's over - The government should now say "let's finish them off while they are down" - let's get rid of the fascist for once and for all - inform all Thai people who is behind these unconstitutional efforts to destroy their fragile democracy - so Thailand can finally have a bright, prosperous and democratic future!

The right wing dinosaurs holding the country back need to go.

One of the reasons the speakers claimed this government needs to be replaced is because of corruption - well these leaders should now put their money where their mouth is and they should be investigated where their personal wealth comes from - just to make sure their moral integrity is intact - accusing others of being corrupt you better have a clean sheet yourself! I am sure they all have!! 555

Edited November 25, 2012 by Cnxforever

[Crushdepth]

Zatoichi and Yunla

...you guys sure you have used enough adjectives ... I haven't quite got your message ... you don't like Thaksin and Yinluck? right ?

If you'd been here during Mr T's reign, you'd hate him too. A wannabe despot with the bucks to buy anything, anyone.

[Moruya]

Morula said:

What's that got to do with the price of rice?

I think it's because Mandela and dr king would give their support to the struggle of the peasantry against an entrenched feudal elite whereas yesterday's demonstration was all about jealousy

Ask any Thai and they'll tell you so.

Noses out of troughs and we want it now.

Call for the army we want it all.

Pure jealousy, covetous and pure hatred.

500 protestors working in concert at 9 in the morning to break through police barricades.

From the off they were organized

There was no half day stand-off or some such it was first thing "all together lads"

Only their number was 500 confronting thousands of police.

Your boys lost

And will continue to

I'm sure Mandela would not count Thaksin among his Facebook friends. TS' portfolio across the African content along with his shady associates would preclude that.

[Payboy]

Reconciliation well on the way.

[Fozfromoz]

Reconciliation well on the way.

Very clever!

[animatic]

Governments resign because of gross public disapproval in many democratic nations.

Drop the ball and the people demand a recall. It is part of the democratic process in

parliamentary governments.

Even Nixon resigned when the writing was on the wall.

PM's have resigned because things continued down hill

and the people realized they were ineffectual.

Thaksin did this himself. Right after winning a landslide victory.

He was not replaced in office, he RESIGNED, and then botched the re-election.

Then finally after not being given a 2nd caretaker PM assignment he tried to

take control without a mandate and was removed forcibly.

His fault in the long run. He resigned and started his decent.

Of course ignoring or suppressing the right of the public to gather

and tell you your governance sucks, through the use of strong arm tactics

and violence is the hallmark of dictators, despots and their puppets.

So some can be so proud that her ladyships government still stands,

but only through tactics the likes of Mugabe, and earlier of the turd in Syria.

Much to be proud of today eh?

Edited November 25, 2012 by animatic

[jayboy]

Morula said:

What's that got to do with the price of rice?

I think it's because Mandela and dr king would give their support to the struggle of the peasantry against an entrenched feudal elite whereas yesterday's demonstration was all about jealousy

Ask any Thai and they'll tell you so.

Noses out of troughs and we want it now.

Call for the army we want it all.

Pure jealousy, covetous and pure hatred.

500 protestors working in concert at 9 in the morning to break through police barricades.

From the off they were organized

There was no half day stand-off or some such it was first thing "all together lads"

Only their number was 500 confronting thousands of police.

Your boys lost

And will continue to

I'm sure Mandela would not count Thaksin among his Facebook friends. TS' portfolio across the African content along with his shady associates would preclude that.

Wrong.Thaksin visited with Mandela on S.Africa in late 2010.