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Too Bad There Aren't Any Sidewalks In Thailand.

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Kingkaew Inwang, secretarygeneral of the National Office for Empowerment of Persons with Disability (NEP), said the regulation would increase the number of employers within the legal framework from the existing 6,000 establishments, which currently hire one disabled person per 200 employees, to about 15,000 establishments hiring one disabled person per 100 employees. The regulation covers state agencies, ministries, state enterprises and local administrative organizations.

Since the Persons with Disabilities' Quality of Life Promotion Act came into effect in September 2007, more and more employers have been complying with the law. In 2009, employers contributed Bt80 million to the NEP fund, while last year the figure rose to Bt100 million.

Last year, a total of 5,525 organizations, each with more than 200 employees, or 84.39 per cent, followed the law by hiring disabled people, while only 1,022 organizations or 15.61 per cent did otherwise.

After the new regulation comes into effect, it is expected that 12,624 qualifying organizations covering 4.63 million workers will hire 46,362 disabled persons as part of the special quota.

http://www.thaivisa....led-employment/

Above is factual information you can disagree or agree. But at least it is not the usual anti Thai folk wisdom that is pedaled as facts here. I posted the above information not to be contentious or wordy but the information geriatrickid posted was not accurate. Now for some more juicy stuff. The generous veterans benefits geriatrickid talks about that I have are the result of 20 years of law suites The backlog of Agent Orange cases needing attention at the Veterans Administration has been placed at half a million. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has declined to find the chemical companies responsible for Agent Orange health problems, in the US or Vietnam. The United States of America is waiting for the Vietnam Vets to die. “About a million and a half of us are already gone.”

Paul Sutton, former Chairman, Vietnam Veterans of America, Chicago Tribune, 2009.

Photo Disabled workers monitoring CCTV cameras at Phuket City Police Station. Also The Phuket Provincial Employment Office itself has five disabled people among its employees.

Ok, so you want to present numbers. Fine let's deal with the numbers. First off, a dose of reality for you. Thailand has a special way of dealing with the disabled. In order to be officially considered disabled, a person has to be REGISTERED as a disabled citizen. That's right, REGISTERED. A person with no legs, may be considered to be be mobility impaired to most people, but in the eyes of the Thai government, unless that person is oficially REGISTERED, the person is able bodied. Now, there is a nice barrier to being counted. Do you even know how the disability is categorized? Thailand has a classification system and then a grading. In the description of Ministerial Regulation B.E.2537 No.2 pursuant to the Rehabilitation of Disabled Persons Act B.E.2534, types of disability are classified as follows:

Impairment of vision

Impairment of hearing or communication

Impairment of physical ability or locomotion

Impairment of mental ability or behavior

Impairment of intellect or learning ability

Within the groups, people are graded from 1 to 5. Physical disability compromises approximately half of Thailand's registered disabled and within this group are people with slight to moderate disabilities such as mobility impaired all the way to severe paralysis.

Now that you know how the disabled population is measured, let's look at employment opportunities. In Thailand, people with slight motor function disruption can be registered as disabled, and this skews the employment numbers. In many countries, someone with a prosthetic limb or a mobility impairment, may be categorized as "disabled" for statistical purpose, but in the employment market, as long as the person is able to function up to the job requirement, the "disabled" person is not treated as such. This is a significant difference from the approach used in some developing countries, such as Thailand. In plain language, many countries, now view people that were once considered disabled as able bodied, but with a degree of impairment. This perception owes a lot to the work of advocacy groups over the years that educated the public to look beyond physical differences and to consider the abilities of the person.

Now let's deal with the job opportunities. The impetus for the hiring of the disabled is in large part driven by foreign NGOs and foreign multinationals that have job equity programs. Funding from groups like the UN, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Clinton Foundation, the World Bank often has requirements for the hiring of the disabled or the disadvantaged. Large EU and USA based firms make a concerted effort to be equal opportunity employers. Yes, some Thai government agencies do have some disabled people working for them. However, I draw your attention to the World Bank workplace equity report that offered the following observations on Thailand;

The number of companies employing persons with disabilities remains quite low. This is a serious problem for persons with disabilities who need a job to earn a living, just like anyone else. NGOs active on persons with disabilities employment issues have pointed out the need for penalties for such companies in order to create more job opportunities, while the (Thai)Office of the Committee of Rehabilitation for Disabled Persons (OCRDP)continues to encourage companies to employ persons with disabilities. The OCRDP acknowledges that for Thais, especially for those in the rural areas, it is very difficult for persons with disabilities to receive education, find appropriate jobs, or even register as disabled.

The World Bank also pointed out that the extent of physical barriers in Thailand was such that they acted as barriers to employment for the disabled. The Skytrain illustrates this dilemma. There are approximately 32 stations. Do you know how many of them have elevators that allow access to the platform? I believe the number is 7. How do you expect someone in a wheelchair to commute to work in Bangkok? Are any of the buses wheelchair accessible? No. Are the walkways, wheelchair accessible? No. Is the subway wheelchair accessible? No. So please tell me how a regular Bangkok resident that uses a wheelchair supposed to be a productive person if he or she cannot get to the workplace? Not everyone can afford to modify a personal van.

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Kingkaew Inwang, secretarygeneral of the National Office for Empowerment of Persons with Disability (NEP), said the regulation would increase the number of employers within the legal framework from the existing 6,000 establishments, which currently hire one disabled person per 200 employees, to about 15,000 establishments hiring one disabled person per 100 employees. The regulation covers state agencies, ministries, state enterprises and local administrative organizations.

Since the Persons with Disabilities' Quality of Life Promotion Act came into effect in September 2007, more and more employers have been complying with the law. In 2009, employers contributed Bt80 million to the NEP fund, while last year the figure rose to Bt100 million.

Last year, a total of 5,525 organizations, each with more than 200 employees, or 84.39 per cent, followed the law by hiring disabled people, while only 1,022 organizations or 15.61 per cent did otherwise.

After the new regulation comes into effect, it is expected that 12,624 qualifying organizations covering 4.63 million workers will hire 46,362 disabled persons as part of the special quota.

http://www.thaivisa....led-employment/

Above is factual information you can disagree or agree. But at least it is not the usual anti Thai folk wisdom that is pedaled as facts here. I posted the above information not to be contentious or wordy but the information geriatrickid posted was not accurate. Now for some more juicy stuff. The generous veterans benefits geriatrickid talks about that I have are the result of 20 years of law suites The backlog of Agent Orange cases needing attention at the Veterans Administration has been placed at half a million. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has declined to find the chemical companies responsible for Agent Orange health problems, in the US or Vietnam. The United States of America is waiting for the Vietnam Vets to die. “About a million and a half of us are already gone.”

Paul Sutton, former Chairman, Vietnam Veterans of America, Chicago Tribune, 2009.

Photo Disabled workers monitoring CCTV cameras at Phuket City Police Station. Also The Phuket Provincial Employment Office itself has five disabled people among its employees.

Ok, so you want to present numbers. Fine let's deal with the numbers. First off, a dose of reality for you. Thailand has a special way of dealing with the disabled. In order to be officially considered disabled, a person has to be REGISTERED as a disabled citizen. That's right, REGISTERED. A person with no legs, may be considered to be be mobility impaired to most people, but in the eyes of the Thai government, unless that person is oficially REGISTERED, the person is able bodied. Now, there is a nice barrier to being counted. Do you even know how the disability is categorized? Thailand has a classification system and then a grading. In the description of Ministerial Regulation B.E.2537 No.2 pursuant to the Rehabilitation of Disabled Persons Act B.E.2534, types of disability are classified as follows:

Impairment of vision

Impairment of hearing or communication

Impairment of physical ability or locomotion

Impairment of mental ability or behavior

Impairment of intellect or learning ability

Within the groups, people are graded from 1 to 5. Physical disability compromises approximately half of Thailand's registered disabled and within this group are people with slight to moderate disabilities such as mobility impaired all the way to severe paralysis.

Now that you know how the disabled population is measured, let's look at employment opportunities. In Thailand, people with slight motor function disruption can be registered as disabled, and this skews the employment numbers. In many countries, someone with a prosthetic limb or a mobility impairment, may be categorized as "disabled" for statistical purpose, but in the employment market, as long as the person is able to function up to the job requirement, the "disabled" person is not treated as such. This is a significant difference from the approach used in some developing countries, such as Thailand. In plain language, many countries, now view people that were once considered disabled as able bodied, but with a degree of impairment. This perception owes a lot to the work of advocacy groups over the years that educated the public to look beyond physical differences and to consider the abilities of the person.

Now let's deal with the job opportunities. The impetus for the hiring of the disabled is in large part driven by foreign NGOs and foreign multinationals that have job equity programs. Funding from groups like the UN, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Clinton Foundation, the World Bank often has requirements for the hiring of the disabled or the disadvantaged. Large EU and USA based firms make a concerted effort to be equal opportunity employers. Yes, some Thai government agencies do have some disabled people working for them. However, I draw your attention to the World Bank workplace equity report that offered the following observations on Thailand;

The number of companies employing persons with disabilities remains quite low. This is a serious problem for persons with disabilities who need a job to earn a living, just like anyone else. NGOs active on persons with disabilities employment issues have pointed out the need for penalties for such companies in order to create more job opportunities, while the (Thai)Office of the Committee of Rehabilitation for Disabled Persons (OCRDP)continues to encourage companies to employ persons with disabilities. The OCRDP acknowledges that for Thais, especially for those in the rural areas, it is very difficult for persons with disabilities to receive education, find appropriate jobs, or even register as disabled.

The World Bank also pointed out that the extent of physical barriers in Thailand was such that they acted as barriers to employment for the disabled. The Skytrain illustrates this dilemma. There are approximately 32 stations. Do you know how many of them have elevators that allow access to the platform? I believe the number is 7. How do you expect someone in a wheelchair to commute to work in Bangkok? Are any of the buses wheelchair accessible? No. Are the walkways, wheelchair accessible? No. Is the subway wheelchair accessible? No. So please tell me how a regular Bangkok resident that uses a wheelchair supposed to be a productive person if he or she cannot get to the workplace? Not everyone can afford to modify a personal van.

  1. I don't see anything wrong with registration and classification of disabled people; it seems to make sense to me. The minor problems with classification that you pointed out are only bickering.
  2. Your opinion that NGO's drive the employment of disabled persons is just that, your opinion I don't buy it.
  3. Most of the companies that I am familiar with offer free transportation to and from work and it's no problem if a wheelchair is included.
  4. You did not address any of the points I made in the previous post you only brought up new issues.
  5. And the Nation news, the one that is in the Thai news section is filled with handicapped people.

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