webfact Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 SOUTH CRISIS Business conflict behind arson: Chalerm Jeerapong Prasertpolkrung, Anapat Deechuay, Atapoom Ongkulna The Nation File photo by Nakarin Shinworakomol YALA: -- The recent torching of 76 closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras in Yala was the work of losers in the bidding for the CCTV camera-installation contract, not an insurgent attack, claimed Deputy PM Chalerm Yoobamrung yesterday. Chalerm said he had instructed Yala governor Decharat Simsiri to probe the businesses in question with a view to taking legal action against destroyers of state property. He added that police had assured him they would provide security to teachers in the South today, National Teachers' Day. Decharat also met with police, Army and administrative officials yesterday to agree on security measures for today. Chalerm added that former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had pledged to grant him an audience soon, as part of Thailand's bid to gain Malaysia's help in ending the deep South insurgency. However, National Security Council chief Paradorn Pattanathabutr contradicted Chalerm's version of events, saying the torching of cameras was part of a typical tactic by insurgents to target state equipment, rather than personnel, in the wake of tightened security. Paradorn also noted that such arson could be preparation for large-scale violence to come, and called on security forces and citizens to be on high alert. He said funding would be provided to replace the damaged CCTV cameras and to mount more cameras at risk-prone spots in 13 areas. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra yesterday instructed related agencies to cooperate on deciding new locations where the CCTV cameras would not be repeatedly destroyed. She also admitted that there were still security loopholes that had enabled the repeat attacks, particularly a lack of manpower and co-ordination. Addressing Chalerm's comment that the arson stemmed from a business conflict, she said related agencies were investigating. -- The Nation 2013-01-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Well, I believe Chalrerm. I look forward to a speedy arrest of the perps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) He added that police had assured him they would provide security to teachers in the South today, National Teachers' Day. 156 teacher deaths http://www.nationmul...d-30198004.html Chalerm added that former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had pledged to grant him an audience soon But only on the strict condition that Chalerm takes Antabuse tablets every day he is in the country? National Security Council Chief Paradorn Pattanathabutr contradicted Chalerm's version of events Not an uncommon occurrence with Chalerm covering a long list of events. It does highlight what a great choice Yingluck made of putting Chalerm in charge of the South issue as he's the best that the Pheu Thai Party has. . Edited January 16, 2013 by Buchholz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Did any body get the count on how many bottles of wine he drank prior to making this statement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squigy Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 "Chalerm added that former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had pledged to grant him an audience soon" might be waiting a long time.... has been gone a long time and the present PM is Najib Tun Razak.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squigy Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Might be waiting a while to meet with " Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad!!!" Maybe the Nation should do a bit of proof reading and research before publishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locationthailand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Mahathir promises to grant him an audience? Delusions of grandeur as always. As for passing the buck, and making the assumption the losers of the contract torched the CCTV's then by all means arrest them, as you obviously know who they are. Case closed and Chalerm supplies a cover up for insurgents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 We don't know who attacked these cameras but it's worth looking at the possible motives behind the arson and the subsequent statements. Taking out surveillance cameras would make it easier to carry out terrorist attacks without detection. The fact that this might be the reason would create the fear of possible bombings or shootings even if none actually take place. That is the real purpose of terrorism after all. One company gets the contract to supply the cameras so one or more of the losing companies destroys the cameras which now have to be replaced. The original company has earned from the contract for the first cameras and will presumably now supply the replacements. Unless the company that won the contract was responsible for the original positioning of the cameras and that was deemed to be not appropriate and an infringement of the contract I don't see how this could be to the detriment of the winning company or to the benefit of the losing ones. As for the statement by Chalerm, does this stop him looking as if he isn't achieving much by putting the focus on business conflicts rather than insurgents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) We don't know who attacked these cameras but it's worth looking at the possible motives behind the arson and the subsequent statements. Taking out surveillance cameras would make it easier to carry out terrorist attacks without detection. The fact that this might be the reason would create the fear of possible bombings or shootings even if none actually take place. That is the real purpose of terrorism after all. One company gets the contract to supply the cameras so one or more of the losing companies destroys the cameras which now have to be replaced. The original company has earned from the contract for the first cameras and will presumably now supply the replacements. Unless the company that won the contract was responsible for the original positioning of the cameras and that was deemed to be not appropriate and an infringement of the contract I don't see how this could be to the detriment of the winning company or to the benefit of the losing ones. As for the statement by Chalerm, does this stop him looking as if he isn't achieving much by putting the focus on business conflicts rather than insurgents? Indeed the cameras appear to have identified no one. I suggest an insurgents registration system. Edited January 16, 2013 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Indeed the cameras appear to have identified no one. Asleep on the job. Not unknown in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Indeed the cameras appear to have identified no one. Asleep on the job. Not unknown in Thailand. Hardly worth burning them down. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You never know with Chalerm if he is drunk, under the influence of drugs or if he has received money to give a spin on any given subject. Fact is that the people supposed to watch the CCTV cameras are as incompetent as the Thai army, or rather in bed with the insurgents and others, as it is mathematically impossible that they never ever catch a bomb-maker, arsonist or killer not even by accident. It is all about money in Thailand also in the South. Life is cheap. Conflict means more budget for anything from the army to the interior minister and in Thailand receipts are not required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 SOUTHERN CRISIS Yala Governor launches inquiry into torching of CCTV cameras Yala Governor Detcharaj Simsiri said on Wednesday that his office is investigating reports that the recent torching of 76 closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras in seven districts may not be the work of insurgents. He was referring to comments made by Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, who claimed that the torching, which took place on Monday, was the work of the losers in the bidding for the CCTV camera-installation contract and not an insurgent attack. Chalerm said he had instructed the Yala governor to probe the businesses in question with a view to taking legal action against those who had destroyed state property. Detcharat added Wednesday that an ad hoc committee had already been set up to investigate the attack. Defence Minister Sukumphol Suwannatat refused to comment on Chalerm's claim, saying that he would wait for the investigation into the incident. Asked about the security measures, which have been criticised as being inefficient, Sukhumphol said the existing measures were adequate but needed improvement. There was no need to issue new measures everyday, he said. With the situation in the South showing some improvement, the insurgents had increased the level of violence and frequency attacks to counter the authorities, the minister said. "I believe that the situation this year will be much better," he added. Referring to National Security Council's chief Paradorn Pattanathabutr's recent comment that the torching could signal a major attack in the near future, Sukumpol said it was good to be nervous. "It would be good if nothing were happening. But if something happens, it would be better to be prepared," he said. -- The Nation 2013-01-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Chalerm seems to have a "thing" for despotic ex-PMs, maybe because he has been trained so well he automatically resorts to a Pavlovian grovel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 In reality it shows that these C.C.T.V. cameras ( obtained no doubt at an interesting price by the commission agent) are in fact about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.Rather like the inept fool supposedly in charge of security affairs in the South Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 How does Chalerm know - he never provides proof. As an expert in corruption who hasn't a clue about the south, it's not surprising he would take the 'business conflict' route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 , particularly a lack of manpower and co-ordination Here's an idea, how about building a massive CCTV system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If the nation's favourite laughing policeman is right why doesn't he produce some evidence to back up his claim and reveal his sources? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meetoo Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 In reality it shows that these C.C.T.V. cameras ( obtained no doubt at an interesting price by the commission agent) are in fact about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.Rather like the inept fool supposedly in charge of security affairs in the South Wasn't it revealed just a short time ago that more than 1/2 of the C.C.T.V. cameras in Bangkok didn't even work and were only dummy ones...?? So why would they even be better quality in the South ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurboy Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 After reading Chalerm's latest comments, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Maybe I should do both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Deputy PM Chalerm Yoobamrung has looked deeply into the issue of the torched CCTV camera through the bottom of a bottle and decided the insurgents didnt do it. Chalerm added that former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had pledged to grant him an audience as soon as Charlem sobers up, as part of Thailand's bid to gain Malaysia's help in ending the deep South insurgency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 How much more of his nonsense will Thaksin put up with before he sends him packing like that fool Jataporn (sorry about the spelling) Or is Thaksin so dumb he can't see what this drunken wannabe some one is doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) How much more of his nonsense will Thaksin put up with before he sends him packing like that fool Jataporn (sorry about the spelling) Or is Thaksin so dumb he can't see what this drunken wannabe some one is doing? Chalerm helped Thaksin get his start in business, he has all the dirt on Thaksin and knows where the bodies are buried. He is one of the few people that Thaksin is truly fearful of. "In 1989 he launched IBC, a cable television company. At that time, Thaksin had a very good relationship with Chalerm Yoobumrung the Minister of the Prime Minister Office who was in charge of Thai press and media. It is a question that remains unanswered whether Chalerm granted the right to Thaksin to establish IBC just to benefit his close friend, seeing that this project had been denied by the previous administration but instantly accepted a very short period after Chalerm came to office." Edited January 16, 2013 by waza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 How much more of his nonsense will Thaksin put up with before he sends him packing like that fool Jataporn (sorry about the spelling) Or is Thaksin so dumb he can't see what this drunken wannabe some one is doing? Chalerm helped Thaksin get his start in business, he has all the dirt on Thaksin and knows where the bodies are buried. He is one of the few people that Thaksin is truly fearful of. "In 1989 he launched IBC, a cable television company. At that time, Thaksin had a very good relationship with Chalerm Yoobumrung the Minister of the Prime Minister Office who was in charge of Thai press and media. It is a question that remains unanswered whether Chalerm granted the right to Thaksin to establish IBC just to benefit his close friend, seeing that this project had been denied by the previous administration but instantly accepted a very short period after Chalerm came to office." Fear That explains a lot. the one thing that can hold Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) How much more of his nonsense will Thaksin put up with before he sends him packing like that fool Jataporn (sorry about the spelling) Or is Thaksin so dumb he can't see what this drunken wannabe some one is doing? Chalerm helped Thaksin get his start in business, he has all the dirt on Thaksin and knows where the bodies are buried. He is one of the few people that Thaksin is truly fearful of. "In 1989 he launched IBC, a cable television company. At that time, Thaksin had a very good relationship with Chalerm Yoobumrung the Minister of the Prime Minister Office who was in charge of Thai press and media. It is a question that remains unanswered whether Chalerm granted the right to Thaksin to establish IBC just to benefit his close friend, seeing that this project had been denied by the previous administration but instantly accepted a very short period after Chalerm came to office." Fear That explains a lot. the one thing that can hold Thaksin. However, Thaksin is richer............. Thailand's 40 Richest (Amart) #23 Thaksin Shinawatra Net Worth $390 million Former prime minister ousted in 2006 coup. Thai authorities froze more than $2 billion in assets, most from family's sale of Shin Corp., telecom outfit he founded. Convicted in absentia in 2008, sentenced to 2 years in prison for violating conflict-of-interest laws when his wife purchased land from government. In February Thai Supreme Court ruled $1.4 billion of assets previously frozen were ill-gotten. http://www.forbes.co...idhya_EIQY.html Edited January 16, 2013 by waza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Member Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Did any body get the count on how many bottles of wine he drank prior to making this statement? It's not so amazing that this clown knows everything about everything, after all he's a Thai politician and they are the fountain of all knowledge. Did I say fountain ? Well (no pun intended) if it's only water he won't be drinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Did any body get the count on how many bottles of wine he drank prior to making this statement? It's not so amazing that this clown knows everything about everything, after all he's a Thai politician and they are the fountain of all knowledge. Did I say fountain ? Well (no pun intended) if it's only water he won't be drinking I am going to have to disagree with you on the first part of the first sentence.It is quite obvious he doesn't know he is a raging alcoholic, and/or that he needs to seek help for this disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sukhumphol said the existing measures were adequate but needed improvement. I'm sure that doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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