With all the comments about the honesty of the BIB does anyone actually know what the rank & file BIB are paid & how this compares with say the likes of a teacher or an office manager?

I don't know about the BIB, but when I was teaching a few years ago, teachers right out of school started at 7000 baht if they could get a government position, less if they were on yearly contracts. My friend had taught at the same school for over 25 years and his salary was about 30k/month.

Compare to honest post officers who do not steal anyone.

I know a senior sergeant-major who made, after 30 years, about 30k per month. Er, I mean his paycheck was about 30k per month.

30K a month for either a senior officer or teacher, how much less for a junior officer just starting out?

30K doesn't sound a lot to me, but what do I know I don't live in Thailand any opinions?

30K a month for either a senior officer or teacher, how much less for a junior officer just starting out?

30K doesn't sound a lot to me, but what do I know I don't live in Thailand any opinions?

It is not a lot. That is why Thailand has instituted the bribe system and month end collection at traffic stops. That is how Thailand operates in all departments, whether it is government or private industry. Who is to say it is wrong? It's just a different system than in the west. And, surprisingly enough it seems to work without impinging on people's lives too much. In Thailand you are free to kill yourself when you do something stupid. In the west we try to create laws to protect stupid people from hurting themselves and hurting others. It hasn't worked any better than the Thai system.

If you think Thailand is bad, try Mexico.

Wifes son in law is in the force....his salary is around 10k Baht per month. He has been in the force about 3 yrs....

He and his wife battle, BUT, they are honest.....

BUT, there is lots to be earned out there, nobody wants it.

BUT, there is lots to be earned out there, nobody wants it.

I know of someone who joined the police specifically for the money,

His children go to school with a 1000bht note every day!

You will find some of the Police that drive the expensive BMW's and Mercedes earn around 30K a month

30K a month for either a senior officer or teacher, how much less for a junior officer just starting out?

30K doesn't sound a lot to me, but what do I know I don't live in Thailand any opinions?

It is not a lot. That is why Thailand has instituted the bribe system and month end collection at traffic stops. That is how Thailand operates in all departments, whether it is government or private industry. Who is to say it is wrong? It's just a different system than in the west. And, surprisingly enough it seems to work without impinging on people's lives too much. In Thailand you are free to kill yourself when you do something stupid. In the west we try to create laws to protect stupid people from hurting themselves and hurting others. It hasn't worked any better than the Thai system.

Where did you learn this? Thai Visa or is there some international school that teaches this information?

Hard to believe that it could be just 30,000 a month and yet they can afford cars, houses, top brand products, days out drinking and days out with the family.

Hard to believe that it could be just 30,000 a month and yet they can afford cars, houses, top brand products, days out drinking and days out with the family.

Yes but there are Very BIG perks

Wifes son in law is in the force....his salary is around 10k Baht per month. He has been in the force about 3 yrs....

He and his wife battle, BUT, they are honest.....

Jez it can't be easey staying honest on that salary

Starting pay is about 10k/month.

But don't forget you have to buy the job at about 300k.

Starting pay is about 10k/month.

But don't forget you have to buy the job at about 300k.

It's a good investment!

Edited February 5, 201313 yr by Chittychangchang

A lot of real misinformation in this thread...already.

Par for the course.

A lot of real misinformation in this thread...already.

Par for the course.

Care to contribute I would genuinely like to know what the facts are & not guesses or conjecture

30K a month for either a senior officer or teacher, how much less for a junior officer just starting out?

30K doesn't sound a lot to me, but what do I know I don't live in Thailand any opinions?

It is not a lot. That is why Thailand has instituted the bribe system and month end collection at traffic stops. That is how Thailand operates in all departments, whether it is government or private industry. Who is to say it is wrong? It's just a different system than in the west. And, surprisingly enough it seems to work without impinging on people's lives too much. In Thailand you are free to kill yourself when you do something stupid. In the west we try to create laws to protect stupid people from hurting themselves and hurting others. It hasn't worked any better than the Thai system.

Well, since you asked. I'd say it's wrong. And to state all the reasons why would require a hundred thousand word doctoral thesis.

When a drunk can pay his way out of slaughtering a child and her mother riding on a motorbike, I would say that is "impinging" on peoples lives.

Or, like that Senior Master-sergeant I mentioned. He supplements his income by "overlooking" a pedophile's behavior. (The reason I stopped associating with the cop.) That's impinging on someone, wouldn't you say?

In Thailand, if you are rich, you are free to kill someone when you do something stupid.

It is not a lot. That is why Thailand has instituted the bribe system and month end collection at traffic stops. That is how Thailand operates in all departments, whether it is government or private industry. Who is to say it is wrong? It's just a different system than in the west. And, surprisingly enough it seems to work without impinging on people's lives too much. In Thailand you are free to kill yourself when you do something stupid. In the west we try to create laws to protect stupid people from hurting themselves and hurting others. It hasn't worked any better than the Thai system.

It is WRONG. It impinges on peoples lives. In Thailand, rich people "are free to kill" OTHER people when they do something stupid.

Rich people in most countries can get away with murder.

Why pick on Thailand?

Edited February 6, 201313 yr by TommoPhysicist

30K a month for either a senior officer or teacher, how much less for a junior officer just starting out?

30K doesn't sound a lot to me, but what do I know I don't live in Thailand any opinions?

It is not a lot. That is why Thailand has instituted the bribe system and month end collection at traffic stops. That is how Thailand operates in all departments, whether it is government or private industry. Who is to say it is wrong? It's just a different system than in the west. And, surprisingly enough it seems to work without impinging on people's lives too much. In Thailand you are free to kill yourself when you do something stupid. In the west we try to create laws to protect stupid people from hurting themselves and hurting others. It hasn't worked any better than the Thai system.

Well, since you asked. I'd say it's wrong. And to state all the reasons why would require a hundred thousand word doctoral thesis.

When a drunk can pay his way out of slaughtering a child and her mother riding on a motorbike, I would say that is "impinging" on peoples lives.

Or, like that Senior Master-sergeant I mentioned. He supplements his income by "overlooking" a pedophile's behavior. (The reason I stopped associating with the cop.) That's impinging on someone, wouldn't you say?

In Thailand, if you are rich, you are free to kill someone when you do something stupid.

I would agree

Rich people in most countries can get away with murder.

Why pick on Thailand?

Because this isn't www.mostcountries.com

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I met a couple officers in Phuket they had been on about a year . There pay was 8000 a month with free housing and medical . Spoke with a ranking officer in the south with well over 20 years in his pay was 28,000 per year . Now also understand they must buy all thier own gear as well .... But I do see many living way beyond what there income shows . So go figuire ..

I met a couple officers in Phuket they had been on about a year . There pay was 8000 a month with free housing and medical . Spoke with a ranking officer in the south with well over 20 years in his pay was 28,000 per year . Now also understand they must buy all thier own gear as well .... But I do see many living way beyond what there income shows . So go figuire ..

A few give a bad name for the many, same all over the world!

If you think Thailand is bad, try Mexico.

Lived there for years. Never had a cop try to shake me down. They don't mess with small fry like 100 baht for no helmet. They'd laugh at such foolishness. They go for the big time, drugs.

30K a month for either a senior officer or teacher, how much less for a junior officer just starting out?

30K doesn't sound a lot to me, but what do I know I don't live in Thailand any opinions?

It is not a lot. That is why Thailand has instituted the bribe system and month end collection at traffic stops. That is how Thailand operates in all departments, whether it is government or private industry. Who is to say it is wrong? It's just a different system than in the west. And, surprisingly enough it seems to work without impinging on people's lives too much. In Thailand you are free to kill yourself when you do something stupid. In the west we try to create laws to protect stupid people from hurting themselves and hurting others. It hasn't worked any better than the Thai system.

you must be a Thai person to think this way

I don't have any accurate first hand details but I'm certain that most government jobs here have just OK salaries but the official benefits tend to make up the difference, schooling costs, medical, accomodation costs etc.

30K a month for either a senior officer or teacher, how much less for a junior officer just starting out?

30K doesn't sound a lot to me, but what do I know I don't live in Thailand any opinions?

It is not a lot. That is why Thailand has instituted the bribe system and month end collection at traffic stops. That is how Thailand operates in all departments, whether it is government or private industry. Who is to say it is wrong? It's just a different system than in the west. And, surprisingly enough it seems to work without impinging on people's lives too much. In Thailand you are free to kill yourself when you do something stupid. In the west we try to create laws to protect stupid people from hurting themselves and hurting others. It hasn't worked any better than the Thai system.

you must be a Thai person to think this way

Nope, I just observe what actually happens. No system is perfect. The Thailand system is FAR, FAR, FAR from perfect, but for the most part you have more freedom from the police here in Thailand. Stay here long enough and you WILL get caught for some silly infraction, but the fine is usually minimal.

Death caused by stupid behaviour happens everywhere. No amount of compensation will bring back a loved one. Sticking someone in jail forever for killing someone in a drunken traffic accident won't bring back a loved one. It is only revenge. Western thinking is like religion; in theory, it SOUNDS good, but in practise it doesn't actually work. We are all still humans with all the frailities that humans have. Many humans in positions of authority abuse their power. All humans do things that are stupid, and sometimes people pay the ultimate sacrifice. I don't care where you live, it's all the same.