NomadJoe Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YipYipYa123 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 a bit lop sided and strange review why even compare a naked bike to a bike with windscreen and full fairings and then complain about the lack of weather protecton on the ducatti ? surely the Er6n or another similar naked bike would have a been a more fair test 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyMcCollum Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I liked the review, but it all gets down to what kind of riding you do, and that is why I have many bikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 This doesn't make any sense. It's like comparing oranges and apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 This doesn't make any sense. It's like comparing oranges and apples. Spot on, silly comparison and the Ninja has 4 V per cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Fantastic review! Can we also have a similar one comparing the Honda PCX to the Honda CBR 1000RR please? I would like to know which one is fastest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YipYipYa123 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 if hes getting paid for this i need to get a new job the ducatti 803cc engine is a bit more powerful than the kawa 649cc engine -amazing the ducatti has worse wind protection because it doesnt have a windscreen and fairings -remarkable the ninja has a big rear seat and passenger grab rails so it will be better for pillion passengers than the ducatti which doesnt have much of a rear seat and no passenger handles - no shit ! the ducatti exhaust sounds better but it also costs a million ruppees more - someone give this guy a prize 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Fila tennis shoes look funny on the guy riding ducati. Interesting to see that kawa ninja accelerates and stops better than ducati monster on hundred meter. Is that really true? Edited February 13, 2013 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Fila tennis shoes look funny on the guy riding ducati. Interesting to see that kawa ninja accelerates and stops better than ducati monster on hundred meter. Is that really true? In every ride out i have had with 795s (3 of them when out on a New Year ride) My 650, Jonnie's 650 and a couple of others out run the 795 each and every single time, this is from a standing start. Roll ons at speeds above 140kmh were a little different, but there was still very little in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Fila tennis shoes look funny on the guy riding ducati. Interesting to see that kawa ninja accelerates and stops better than ducati monster on hundred meter. Is that really true? In every ride out i have had with 795s (3 of them when out on a New Year ride) My 650, Jonnie's 650 and a couple of others out run the 795 each and every single time, this is from a standing start. Roll ons at speeds above 140kmh were a little different, but there was still very little in it. It sounds cool karlos. Interesting to hear that a heavier and less powerful bike is faster than a ducati. good job kawa. So thai build ducati monster is just a show off bike then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guns Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Fila tennis shoes look funny on the guy riding ducati. Interesting to see that kawa ninja accelerates and stops better than ducati monster on hundred meter. Is that really true? In every ride out i have had with 795s (3 of them when out on a New Year ride) My 650, Jonnie's 650 and a couple of others out run the 795 each and every single time, this is from a standing start. Roll ons at speeds above 140kmh were a little different, but there was still very little in it. It sounds cool karlos. Interesting to hear that a heavier and less powerful bike is faster than a ducati. good job kawa. So thai build ducati monster is just a show off bike then. I suggest you ride both bikes. I owned a 2009 er6n and i own a 2012 m795 and the ducati feels a lot quicker handles and stops better. The m795 is more raw and less easy to live with as an all round bike but for a weekend toy its fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Fila tennis shoes look funny on the guy riding ducati. Interesting to see that kawa ninja accelerates and stops better than ducati monster on hundred meter. Is that really true? In every ride out i have had with 795s (3 of them when out on a New Year ride) My 650, Jonnie's 650 and a couple of others out run the 795 each and every single time, this is from a standing start. Roll ons at speeds above 140kmh were a little different, but there was still very little in it. It sounds cool karlos. Interesting to hear that a heavier and less powerful bike is faster than a ducati. good job kawa. So thai build ducati monster is just a show off bike then. I suggest you ride both bikes. I owned a 2009 er6n and i own a 2012 m795 and the ducati feels a lot quicker handles and stops better. The m795 is more raw and less easy to live with as an all round bike but for a weekend toy its fantastic I have Try telling that to the 3 guys that wanted to swap their rented 795's for the 650's on the way home during our group ride New Year's Day. The 795 does look nice, has better equipment, but they really aren't 150,000baht quicker than an ER Happy Valentine's Day 555 Edited February 14, 2013 by karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Interesting, would not have thought that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 My mate has a ER6N and did a standing start 'Drag' with a 795 this weekend cos he was thinking of swapping his bike for a Duke. Like already said, the Moster is a great bike but not worth the extra bucks. It was a bit faster but nothing earth-shattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Carlos: Try telling that to the 3 guys that wanted to swap their rented 795's for the 650's on the way home during our group ride New Year's Day. The 795 does look nice, has better equipment, but they really aren't 150,000baht quicker than an ER Happy Valentine's Day 555sure it is not bc of the fairings on er6f right? Sure it was not due to the fairings of kawa er6f carlos? Ducati looks only good what i understand from this thread. Still, if you want the heads of ladies and gentlemen turning to you, Ducati is the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic-chassis Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've heard the ducatti has overheating problems in traffic. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I've heard the ducatti has overheating problems in traffic. Is this true? Dunno !! but a mate of mine who bought a 916 said to like a Ducati :- " You have to be either Italian, have deep pockets or a Sadomasochist." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiNiro Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You can rent Ducatis in Pattaya and see for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 stop taking trash about ducatis, guys. look 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Intimidating isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 ^ what's really cool about this photo is that it's not a promo or professional photo. just a guy stopping in death valley and getting approached by wild coyotes - who then seem to strike a submissive pose towards the 1199... the ride report is worth reading too, google for "coast to coast on an italian supermodel" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 stop taking trash about ducatis, guys.look I do not only look at it but also kneel before it. Cool photo nikster. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbradsby Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Cmon guys. More BS about Ducatis by non-owners and renters for fooks sake... They don't overheat in traffic more than any other bike. On Duc Superbikes since 2001, never had one overheat. And no, the undertail exhausts don't burn your butt... The Monster 795 RENTERS (not owners) you referenced probably dont know how to properly launch a Duc from a stop. A Duc sport bike can be launched very quickly, as their power to weight ratio is very good, wheelbase longer than a Monster. Yr Kawi likely has a longer wheelbase, thus advantageous in a drag launch. Apples vs Oranges. BTW, even with an experienced rider/bike combo... quicker from a stop does not mean a more powerful engine. Ducs are geared extra low via a two tooth oversized rear sprocket in order to clear the noise regulations. Theyre designed to run on a slightly smaller sprocket and a knowledgeable dealer will already know this and be ready to switch it out if race launches or tight, technical track time are important to you - drag starts are typically not that important to Duc owners, as these are sport bikes, not thrash-n-toss crap. But most Superbike enthusiasts back home had already switched out to smaller sprockets. Edited February 23, 2013 by bbradsby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) ^ what's really cool about this photo is that it's not a promo or professional photo. just a guy stopping in death valley and getting approached by wild coyotes - who then seem to strike a submissive pose towards the 1199... the ride report is worth reading too, google for "coast to coast on an italian supermodel" Yeah I read that guys whole story "AntiHero" Great read & he has made a coffee table book out of it too. Ducati should buy a bunch of his photos for advertising as they really are great. Great story too & shows the bike is quite capable of more than single purpose type riding. Edited February 23, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbradsby Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Yikes, slight correction to my post above: Ducs come from the factory geared extra low to pass noise emissions tests via a two-tooth undersized rear sprocket. This keeps the RPM lower during the drive-by sound test. The mod is to go to a larger rear sprocket with two more teeth. I, for one, never bothered with the mod, and commuted, road tripped and tracked my bikes. Only a few times coming out of corners on-track, red mist-enshrouded eyesight, did I wish for different gearing for my Superbike. As for my Duc here, It's tall first gear feels stock, but I haven't bothered to count the sprocket teeth - anyone who does race launches in BKK is asking for a T-BOne with a red-light-runner in a car. I let the eager scooter boy wave run interference blocking when the light changes to green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbradsby Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I've heard the ducatti has overheating problems in traffic. Is this true? Dunno !! but a mate of mine who bought a 916 said to like a Ducati :- " You have to be either Italian, have deep pockets or a Sadomasochist." no.. they dont overheat more than other bikes. And to understand the passion for Ducatis... seriously, all it takes is one ride. Nothing against any Japanese makes - I appreciate most all bikes and can have fun on a scooter in the right setting - but being Italian, Ducatis are very distinctly different in design, engineering & performance philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 no.. they dont overheat more than other bikes. And to understand the passion for Ducatis... seriously, all it takes is one ride. Nothing against any Japanese makes - I appreciate most all bikes and can have fun on a scooter in the right setting - but being Italian, Ducatis are very distinctly different in design, engineering & performance philosophy. I think a lot of folks who never felt an underseat exhaust tend to think overheat but it is not. As to the passion of Italian built I can understand it & will also say it carries over into even Italian built Bicycles. I use to own Colnago's, Pinarello's & a couple of original Masi & it is the same with their bicycles. They have a flair or passion that just comes through in their designs. It sounds odd but it is there for sure IMHO I am sure many say the same about some German Cars etc. But Italians do so in many sectors, Bicycles & Motorcycles as mentioned but also cars, or Gear like helmets,leathers,boots etc. But getting back to Ducati there is no denying even with their outside the box thinking or their own philosophy regarding valves/clutch etc None can deny a bike like the Panigale with its power to weight ration being what I think is the highest of any street legal sport bike. Not to mention the killer technology that bike possesses If I had the disposable money needed I would not hesitate to buy one today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic-chassis Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Thanks for the answers about over heating. I'm certainly not knocking any ducati model. I like them, but they're a little not of my price range. I was just curious is all. It seems to be an urban bkk big bike rider myth that the moster gets very hot in traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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