Notification Of Staying In The Kingdom Over 90 Days By Registered Mail

BobTH · February 17, 2013

Ok, I have a question on 90 day reporting by mail. The two sentences below highlighted in red below seem just a little unclear to me and hopefully someone here can explain to me what is allowed. The first doesn't use the term at least, it only states 15 days before renewal date. My question is how long before renewal date can you send it? Can you send it up to 30 days before the renewal date or longer? It is clear that you must send it at least 15 days before but how long before you can send it is a little fuzzy. Any help on this for my future reference would be greatly appreciated. In the past I have sent it exactly 15 days before because I wasn't sure of what it was actually saying. Thank you in advance.

1. Photocopy of passport pages with following pages

- front page showing name / surname / Passport No., ect.

- current visa

- last entry stamp of immigration

- last extension of visa

2. Photocopy of departure card TM.6 click to view Example TM.6 card

3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any) click to view Example document

4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47 click to view Example document (Don't forget to sign name.)

5. Envelope with 10 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days.

6. The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner.

Send the mail before the renewal date 15 days to Immigration office

Notice :

- Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.

- Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt.

- Please keep your receipt of your registered mail in case of lost mail.

- Your document can not be processed if you have passed the 90 days limit. ( You must come to the nearest immigration office or Immigration Division 1 in person to pay fine 2,000 Baht)

- Waiting for reply mail over 1 month, please contact Immigration Office with your registered mail receipt.

NancyL · February 17, 2013

Be sure to check that your Immigration office accepts 90 day reporting by mail. It seems to be off-and-on here in Chiang Mai. The last I heard they won't accept 90 day reports by mail if you live near the office, but will if you're in an outlying area.

Apparently, too many people were sending paperwork without the proper return envelope and stamp.

Edited February 17, 2013 by NancyL

wayned · February 17, 2013

The normal reporting period in person is 15 days before until 7 days after. You usually can not report sooner. So the maiil-in procedures indicate that you should mail it 15 days before the due date so that it will arrive with-in the acceptable window, be processsed and returned to you.

Edited February 17, 2013 by wayned

BobTH · February 17, 2013

Be sure to check that your Immigration office accepts 90 day reporting by mail. It seems to be off-and-on here in Chiang Mai. The last I heard they won't accept 90 day reports by mail if you live near the office, but will if you're in an outlying area.

Apparently, too many people were sending paperwork without the proper return envelope and stamp.

I have done in already a few times before at the Division 1 office here in Bangkok with no trouble. I merely had a question on how long before the reporting date I could send it. I know at least 15 days before but I want to know if they accept them say 30 days prior or more. Thanks for your reply though.

lopburi3 · February 17, 2013

As they now appear to issue on date processed (you could have to make next report 90 days from then) suspect they do not have to define as it will move your next due date earlier.

RPCVguy · February 17, 2013

There now appears to be at least two current threads as to 90-day reports. I just posted my current (and 1st time problem over 5 years) unfer the following thread, page 14

Sheryl · February 17, 2013

I always do mine by mail (no Immigration Office in my province) and never had a problem.

You can mail it less than 15 days before ,just can't have it arrive there more than 15 days before. And of course should make sure it arrives before the date.

lopburi3 · February 17, 2013

For mail reporting the new requirement is indeed 15 days or more before the due date and is clearly spelled out on immigration website as below:

Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.

http://www.immigration.go.th/

BobTH · February 17, 2013

For mail reporting the new requirement is indeed 15 days or more before the due date and is clearly spelled out on immigration website as below:

Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.

http://www.immigration.go.th/

Sheryl above said quote " You can mail it less than 15 days before ,just can't have it arrive there more than 15 days before." unquote.

That was my real question. By reading the site text pasted below someone could interpet that you could mail it in the day after you received your previous one and they would stamp it the expiration date of your new receipt. I understand fully the at least 15 days prior, I was asking if you could send it 16, 21, or 30 days prior. Sheryl seems to think it has to arrive within the 15 days at their office and seems confident of that. She said as quoted but I believe she meant you can mail it more than 15 days before, just can't arrive there more than 15 days before. Anyway I am not trying to beat this to death, I can continue to just mail it like before 15 days on the money, I just wish they would sometimes be a little more specific on their requirements. Sometimes being an engineer is just a pain in the ass lol.

Photocopy of passport pages with following pages
- front page showing name / surname / Passport No., ect.
- current visa
- last entry stamp of immigration
- last extension of visa
Photocopy of departure card TM.6 click to view Example TM.6 card
Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any) click to view Example document
Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47 click to view Example document (Don't forget to sign name.)
Envelope with 10 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days.
The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner.
Send the mail before the renewal date 15 days to Immigration office
Notice :
- Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.
- Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt.
- Please keep your receipt of your registered mail in case of lost mail.
- Your document can not be processed if you have passed the 90 days limit. ( You must come to the nearest immigration office or Immigration Division 1 in person to pay fine 2,000 Baht)
- Waiting for reply mail over 1 month, please contact Immigration Office with your registered mail receipt.

lopburi3 · February 17, 2013

They will stamp it on the day the process (normally a few days after receipt) from what I and others have experienced and next report will be due 90 days from that date. I suspect once everyone uses the 15 days or more early they will indeed process on the due date but most recent reports I have seen it is still done early if received early. Until now have not seen reporting of any issues with reports not mailed 15 days early as long as they arrive by due date - once that is enforced suspect they will be using the due date for next 90 day count.

Kered · February 18, 2013

My last report to CM immigration was not processed, fortunately I had the receipt of posting and confirmation of delivery and CM immigration have now confirmed that they have stopped processing 90 day reports by mail.

NancyL · February 18, 2013

My last report to CM immigration was not processed, fortunately I had the receipt of posting and confirmation of delivery and CM immigration have now confirmed that they have stopped processing 90 day reports by mail.

Don't ya' just love it! The last thing they need at CM Immigration are more customers. It would seem tht reporting by mail could relieve some of the congestion. Perhaps they simply needed to clarify the instructions on their website to make it very clear -- no stamped return envelop, no 90-day report slip.

RPCVguy · February 21, 2013

I am confirming Kered's statement... No processing by mail, no matter where within the Chiang Mai Immigration territory one lives. Point blank by phone yesterday, they are NOT processing any TM47s by mail, at least not returning any paperwork - forcing followup phone calls and the need to come in so as to report as due within the next 90 days.

This news by phone yesterday after all the intermediate conversations since mid-January that mail for out-of-towners was still being honored... as spelled out on their site at http://chiangmaiimm.com/en/notification-of-staying-in-the-kingdom-over-90-days.html.

Sheryl, your advice HAS BEEN the working interpretation for at least the last several years, but I would not want to bet it is still true... EVEN if Chiang Mai Immigration were still taking reports via mail.

My current (and 1st time problem over 5 years) is posted under the following thread, page 14

http://www.thaivisa....25#entry6123654