webfact Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE SCHEMEBill 'part of plan to seize country'The NationBANGKOK: -- Govt opponents to print book on 'plot to siphon off public funds', ask Ombudsman to block off-budget financingThe Green Politics group will petition the public sector Anti-Corruption Network to express its stance on the Bt2-trillion infrastructure loan bill and will publish a book on an alleged plan to siphon off the massive funds."The book will also expose the alleged plan by Pheu Thai to seize control of the entire country," Suriyasai Katasila, a coordinatorfor the group, said yesterday.The group would send an open letter to the network, comprising chambers of commerce and civil groups, to express a clear stance on public concerns over the threat of rampant graft in the projects, to be financed by Bt2-trillion in loans.The bill sailed through its first reading on Friday night by a 284-152 vote.Green Politics will issue a book to reveal the hidden agenda behind the plan to obtain loans for developing transportation and logistics infrastructure, he said.The group saw the bill as an obvious attempt by the ruling coalition to avoid several charter provisions by seeking off-budget financing, he said.The group and several organisations would appeal to the Ombudsmen to seek a ruling on the bill by the Constitution Court.Green Politics might also file a complaint with the National Anti-Corruption Commission against the Cabinet and coalition MPs for voting for the bill even though it allegedly violates the charter, he said.Suriyan Thongnu-iad, secretary-general of the Campaign for Popular Democracy (CPD), another civic group, said his group would write a book describing the alleged irregularities behind the plan to seek Bt2-trillion in loans.The CPD would work with all civil groups and networks to hold seminars to educate the public on the possible repercussions on them from the loans.The bill clearly violates the charter by foisting a heavy debt burden on people for up to 50 years without giving them any say on the matter.The bill would undermine good governance and would hold both the nation and the people hostage.The monstrous debt would also push the country to the brink of economic collapse with MPs acting as a rubber stamp for the practice.The enactment of the bill without details on the development projects would defeat the rule of law and the legal rationale for the government, which is supposed to enforce the law, he said.-- The Nation 2013-04-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stradavarius37 Posted April 1, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2013 If only this were an April fools story, and not the sordid, sad reality of Thai politics.... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 " Part of plan to seize country " these charlatans never short of ideas... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Alleged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Plausible......given those in charge here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Anybody who has studied the Thaksin , a man who also admires the government of Singapore, can only deduct , that a totalitarian style of government is in the making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Welcome to Thaksinland! The country's name will be changed shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 ask yourself some questions : - who in this country pays the majority of the taxes ? (bangkok) - where does Pheu Thai not have a complete grip on the country ? (bangkok) make it law that tax's payers money should go to regions that actually contribute to the country ... there is no social welfare, pension plan (for private companies) even those people pay social security and taxes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Thaksin has taken over the government, put his cronies in contol of the secutity forces and judiciary and is in the process of neuturing the oposition. He is taking over the insitutions of socialisation through government policies and the redshirt movement while enslaving the population through debt. All funded through the corruption of the Thai treasury and by endebting the next 3 generations of Thais. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Welcome to Thaksinland! The country's name will be changed shortly. Should be quite easy to change as all you will have to do is insert a K. S and N - don't tell him though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TackyToo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The hub of greed- finally exposed??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ianf Posted April 1, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) Anybody who has studied the Thaksin , a man who also admires the government of Singapore, can only deduct , that a totalitarian style of government is in the making. Come on! I've been saying that on various Thai Visa threads for years. Tell me, what is the difference between Thaksin and say Marcos, Amin, Mugabe and other dictators? Anyone with the slightest bit of ken will spot that there are great similarities. What is the difference between Thaksin's approach to democracy and Mussolini's? Very similar if you ask me. What was the difference between the red rhetoric on the streets of Bangkok and the approach outlined in Mein Kampf? Well Hitler was pretty adamant that you do not spout policy to win hearts and minds, rather you use emotional manipulation. Isn't that what we saw? Make no mistake that the underlying plan is dictatorship and such an approach can very easily lead to brutal suppression and those with a fascist twist of mind, a monopoly on truth and ideas, such as Robert Amsterdam, Thaksin and his charming (?) accolytes will benefit. As usual, the poor will suffer - as will democracy. What is all this about red democracy you may ask? I believe the idea for hikacking the term 'democracy' may have come from Amsterdam - it was a brilliant PR move. The majority of the Thai people really do not understand the term and Amsterdam recognised the simplicity of the electorate and by giving them something to fight for he was able to build a movement behind Thaksin. Off course, Amsterdam was well paid for this and it was a stroke of genius. So what's next: Hijacking the economy as outlined in some posts here is an obvious move; continuing to fool (and pay) the electorate so as to use them to support further civil disobedience is another but there is a more serious concern on the horizon. Sadly, many things must be left unsaid but if you think about it there are inevitable events in the future that will strengthen Thaksin's hand and weaken those who support human rights, justice, equality and democracy. I, for one, fear for the future of Thailand and for the poor who always suffer the most at times of national stress. It is sad that there is not a strong figure (aka The Lady) who will stand up and speak the truth in ways that the majority will understand. Edited April 1, 2013 by ianf 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguy30 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Welcome to Thaksinland! The country's name will be changed shortly. That sounds better than ToxicWasteland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Welcome to Thaksinland! The country's name will be changed shortly. Plans to change the name of the capital to Shin-kok are on temporary-hold, following the failure of the populace to vote for a concrete pole, as ordered. But the beauty of democrazy, is that there's always another chance, for the pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipCook Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Go ahead with the projects but do your best to limit the siphoning, but don't prevent projects which are vital to the country's development. Enforce the laws about fraud, waste and abuse with stiffer penalties, mandatory jail terms, forfeiture of assets and maybe you can prevent some from happning in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Best and most accuate article I've read in Thailand for some time - bang on the money (excuse the pun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Excuse me, Is this the "Tin Foil Hat" thread? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimoMax Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Too True. More to come in the future for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Excuse me, Is this the "Tin Foil Hat" thread? It is now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Excuse me, Is this the "Tin Foil Hat" thread? It is now You do realize how wonderfully well that post backfired, don't you? Hence the "like" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Excuse me, Is this the "Tin Foil Hat" thread? It is now You do realize how wonderfully well that post backfired, don't you? Hence the "like" I thought you were both shaping up nicely as a comedy double act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Excuse me, Is this the "Tin Foil Hat" thread? It is now You do realize how wonderfully well that post backfired, don't you? Hence the "like" I thought you were both shaping up nicely as a comedy double act. I'm here all week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Suriyasai Katasila was a facist PAD spokesman during the 2006 rallys to oust Thaksin. Another man with nothing but amart propaganda bile to spew. Funny how there is no mention in the post of his previous alliances. Shouldn,t really expect a balanced piece here...silly me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 It does surprise me none of this chappies previous form was reported because on May 4th 2006 this appeared in the Nonsense BANGKOKIANSuriyasai Katasila: a man of the futureSuriyasai Katasila has proved himself to be one of Thailand's foremost political activists. A spokesman of the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), Suriyasai has been standing in the front line, challenging and fighting the Thaksin regime in the name of people power. Only in his early 30s and with enormous energy and an endless fighting spirit, he is sharp and knows how to think strategically to achieve political objectives. Over the past three months of a gruelling political battle against the Thaksin regime, Suriyasai has played a key role in designing both the offensive and defensive strategies of the PAD. Both the Thaksin government and the PAD have had equal intelligence information about their moves and countermoves while trying to outwit each other for political advantage. The PAD is a political phenomenon, a reaction against the repressive Thaksin regime. Although Thais in general do not trust some key members of the PAD, they are willing to give the organisation the benefit of the doubt as it focuses its energy on resisting the Thaksin machine. There were some 10 million "no votes" on April 2, reflecting widespread resentment against Thai Rak Thai among middle-class voters. A protege of Phiphop Thongchai, Suriyasai has risen to meet the challenge of Thai politics being at a crossroads. Over the past two years, he succeeded in becoming secretary-general of the Campaign for Popular Democracy. The organisation's aim is to enhance the role of people's politics. You must agree that Suriyasai has passed a critical test. He now has the larger-than-life image of a political activist. Speaking to Manager Online, Suriyasai said he slept very few hours at the height of the battle. With his busy travel schedule, he has had to snatch naps in taxis, buses and planes. When the PAD camped out at Sanam Luang or Government House to rally against Thaksin Shinawatra, he could wake up late. But then he'd have to travel upcountry to meet with PAD supporters. It was probably the most intense period of his life, and he admitted to taking precautions. He received late-night calls threatening his life. Sometimes he deliberately avoided answering his mobile phone, resulting in some 50 or 60 missed calls. When meeting strangers, he had to keep his guard up. If they were friends, then it was all right; otherwise, he had to stay alert. He spoke a little about his private life, how he now had little time for subjects close to his heart. But he may plans to go to the US or the UK for three or five years after this episode. Or he may set up a political party. He'll decide next year. For now, Suriyasai can bask in his success, which has come at a big price, because his life has completely changed, for better or for worse. Keep an eye on the future of this young man, who will be a force in Thai politics for decades to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Excuse me, Is this the "Tin Foil Hat" thread? No that's surely the 'Thaksin Tweets, "Here I Am, I'm Not Dead, Honestly !" thread'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locationthailand Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 This has been Thaksin's agenda since seizure of his ill gotten gains and loss of face having been turfed out on his ear. Futher his conviction as a fraud. Greed, political narcissism and bent on revenge. Right now I would personally endorse a coup to prevent the country being thrown into passive debt by those unable to comprehend the ramifications of saddling our children and their children with this meglomaniac's mental masturbation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) Mark my words the Fashits will be back on the streets soon after recieving a meaningless 6,000B fine. Edited April 1, 2013 by monkfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longway Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) ask yourself some questions : - who in this country pays the majority of the taxes ? (bangkok) - where does Pheu Thai not have a complete grip on the country ? (bangkok) make it law that tax's payers money should go to regions that actually contribute to the country ... there is no social welfare, pension plan (for private companies) even those people pay social security and taxes In fact Bangkok gets a larger share of the budget than it contributes to the GDP and other regions are underfunded in comparison to their contribution to GDP. If you forget the BS about democracy, class war and amart, its actually a fight about how the money is distributed and who gets a place in the trough. Edited April 1, 2013 by longway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionchaser45 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 So, is it the People's Font of Judea or the Judean People's Front? There are so many "wanna be" political groups in Thailand that one needs an official program to keep track (PAD, Multi-Color, Green Politics, New Politics...). There is only one group that doesn't need to "steal" the country because they can win elections, which is something these other posers should be working on instead of writing works of fiction to discredit the elected government. The majority of Thais are happy with the government, the economy is getting stronger, the baht is gaining strength when other currencies are going in the opposite direction. What's to complain about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabel Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 So, is it the People's Font of Judea or the Judean People's Front? There are so many "wanna be" political groups in Thailand that one needs an official program to keep track (PAD, Multi-Color, Green Politics, New Politics...). There is only one group that doesn't need to "steal" the country because they can win elections, which is something these other posers should be working on instead of writing works of fiction to discredit the elected government. The majority of Thais are happy with the government, the economy is getting stronger, the baht is gaining strength when other currencies are going in the opposite direction. What's to complain about? Tell us that when the big rainbow balloon burts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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