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I still see the odd Puritan on a forum trying to tell me that they dont go to Thailand for the women, and they certainly wouldnt retire to LOS on that basis, but who are we kidding ? I might as well just move to New Zealand or Fiji if that wasnt a major factor in my decision making .... ;)

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Honestly, for me it was. I came to Asia on a holiday 20 years ago. Both Angkor Wat and Pagan (Cambodia and Myanmar) opened for first time since forever. It was a childhood dream to visit these places as well as "Saigon".

I was so impressed, I quit my job and moved to Cambodia (94-96). Thailand just seemed like a big bore (save for the islands). I visited Lao mid nineties on and made addlntrips to Myanmar, Vietnam, India and N Pakistan.

Thailand was always just a base that I had to circuit out of. The only big plus for me,the food and the islands. My first trip in Thailand was around 98 and I found it just as dull as my initial recon suggested.

I came to depend more on Thailand as I aged and the backpacker trail became overburdened by whiny overindulgent children looking for a party rather than having any sense of real adventure.

Should have kept going, far afield, but I was getting old.

Settled in Thailand but still long periods in Indonesia, N India and US.

Fast forward, more years and now married. Found the whole p4p scene so unrewarding and unhealthful, Im getting on.now +52 - why not marry an attractive, thin and lovely woman 15yrs my junior?

I do not disagree with your premise, most men here its always and only been about the easy access to affable and friendly (young) women. I relish the day when the govt shuts down the farang sex establishments (bars, gogo, massage, escort, clubs). That will be the last straw, given the rise in the thb, the costs there will be a stampede to leave here.

Always said, take away the women, aircon, western toilets and tissue paper and 50% gone in a month. Other 35% to follow.

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Hard to answer someone who has made up everyones mind for them based on your own reasons for going.

Sorry to ruin your day / week / life.

seems to me the man who goes thousands of km's to get laid days/weeks/lifes in ruins.

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Hard to answer someone who has made up everyones mind for them based on your own reasons for going.

Sorry to ruin your day / week / life.

seems to me the man who goes thousands of km's to get laid days/weeks/lifes in ruins.

Lighten up, man - it wasnt meant to be a navel gazer, but clearly you see it differently.

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Hard to answer someone who has made up everyones mind for them based on your own reasons for going.

Sorry to ruin your day / week / life.

seems to me the man who goes thousands of km's to get laid days/weeks/lifes in ruins.

Depends. I see it as expanding one's horizons and aspiring to be more of a Roger Moore 007 than a Dirty Harry.

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There's more to Thailand and Asia than P4P scene and also more than temples too

I never came to Thailand and Asia for the girls, well, anymore than I will try to get girls wherever I am but the P4P is really not for me. I don't return for it either, or the temples, seen 'em!

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The over the counter prescription drugs at popular prices were a big draw for me!

Nookie was a big part of the tourism draw for me initially but when it came to making the big retirement decision, much less so. That was mostly an economic decision.

Also it's hardly the only country with EZ nookie, now is it? (BTW, if you think that it is, you kind of need a travel agent or something ...)

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I forgot Viagra. Take away the Viagra and the retirees are gone. Expat living is a very poor value here if you have any sort of Western needs. Alcohol is more expensive here, bars and pubs aside.

Only bargain is medical services and general labor.

Viagra, the bane of Thailand. Hah, never thought of that...all Thailsnd has to do is treat it as ya-ice and the farang won't be able to leave fast enough.

Thats it! Forget the complications I mentioned above. Viagra = ya-ice prison time. Done, done and done!

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Hard to answer someone who has made up everyones mind for them based on your own reasons for going.

Sorry to ruin your day / week / life.

seems to me the man who goes thousands of km's to get laid days/weeks/lifes in ruins.

Lighten up, man - it wasnt meant to be a navel gazer, but clearly you see it differently.

I see someone below mentioned James Bond - he was a naval geezer

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Honestly, for me it was. I came to Asia on a holiday 20 years ago. Both Angkor Wat and Pagan (Cambodia and Myanmar) opened for first time since forever. It was a childhood dream to visit these places as well as "Saigon".

I was so impressed, I quit my job and moved to Cambodia (94-96). Thailand just seemed like a big bore (save for the islands). I visited Lao mid nineties on and made addlntrips to Myanmar, Vietnam, India and N Pakistan.

Thailand was always just a base that I had to circuit out of. The only big plus for me,the food and the islands. My first trip in Thailand was around 98 and I found it just as dull as my initial recon suggested.

I came to depend more on Thailand as I aged and the backpacker trail became overburdened by whiny overindulgent children looking for a party rather than having any sense of real adventure.

Should have kept going, far afield, but I was getting old.

Settled in Thailand but still long periods in Indonesia, N India and US.

Fast forward, more years and now married. Found the whole p4p scene so unrewarding and unhealthful, Im getting on.now +52 - why not marry an attractive, thin and lovely woman 15yrs my junior?

I do not disagree with your premise, most men here its always and only been about the easy access to affable and friendly (young) women. I relish the day when the govt shuts down the farang sex establishments (bars, gogo, massage, escort, clubs). That will be the last straw, given the rise in the thb, the costs there will be a stampede to leave here.

Always said, take away the women, aircon, western toilets and tissue paper and 50% gone in a month. Other 35% to follow.

Golf. Don't forget the golf. And the gorgeous caddies...ooops, here we go again, those b*&%y women. I'm not leaving, toilet paper or no toilet paper!!

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I'll eventually be going there for one woman, a great culture, and a much lower cost of living than what I have to put up with now. We all have our reasons ... can't expect them to all be the same

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And excepting those:

  • who are Gay
  • who are already married/in a relationship
  • Are women who like men
  • Who find it an affordable relaxing place to live
  • who enjoy Thai culture
  • Don't suffer from involuntary celebacy outside of Thailand.
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"I came to depend more on Thailand as I aged and the backpacker trail became overburdened by whiny overindulgent children looking for a party rather than having any sense of real adventure."

This is actually true, very true. And maybe we have publications such as Lonely Planet to half thank for it. In the distant past when we were traveling around parts of Asia, the influence of the backpacker was minimal. Most of the passengers on the planes coming over from the US west coast were businessmen. I recall one flight from LA to Tokyo that was a 707 and had 5 passengers. I don't hate backpackers just like I don't hate chewing gum, particularly. I just prefer that they were not always underfoot in some of the otherwise nicest places.

I too, like you, don't come for the cheap sex. I have never liked it cheap.

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