Fried chicken takeaway called 'Hitler' opens in Thailand

[cpofc]

Without making the Americans seem like angels, you would not find any WWII historians that would describe that as genocide. .
USA was attacked by Japan first, and the atomic bombs actually led to a quicker end of WWII preventing many more months or years of conflict. Their actions were not to wipe out a race, just to wipe out the Japan military and end the conflict.

I thought the atomic bombs on Japan was after the war was effectively over and an appallingly murderous attack on Japan to demonstrate to Russia that America was the big boy in the street.

that is also what i learned in school.

Wrong. Invasion of the Jap Home Islands, starting with Kyushu, was then estimated at 1 Million Casualties for the Allies. The Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan prevented Genocide of the Japanese people. The Japanese leaders had committed to what they called 'Katsugo', which meant that everyone would fight to the death. Civilians too. Which included children, using makeshift weapons such as sharpened sticks, fighting to the death alongside soldiers. The unequalled brutality and savagery of the Pacific Campaign seriously worried the Americans, who wondered whether or not they would have to kill every last one of them to achieve victory. Truman said to suffer so many allied casualties in doing so, when they had in their arsenal a weapon that could end it , would have been irresponsible and unforgivable. How could he have faced the people.

[antfish]

My mother is Jewish and she lost many cousins and family members during the Holocaust, providing of course you`re not a Holocaust denier and actually believe that millions of innocent people were brutishly murdered for no apparent reason than being labelled as something.

So for me, considering that if the Nazis would have invaded England during WW2, and that my family may have ended up as a pair of leather boots or a bar of soap, I find these Hitler images (however humorous) as intimidating and an insult to all the nationalities, including the Germans, who fought, suffered and died during that shitty war,

So I suppose the ways that people regard these images depends on how severely their elderly relatives or ancestors were affected during those times and what side of the fence you`re on.

My personal belief is; that the atrocities committed by Nazis and their collaborators during the war should never be forgotten and never be forgiven, as long as all this is still in living memory.

There can be nothing humorous about a brutal, crazed, mass murderer, in any shape or form.

the soap bar story is a myth. never happened.

Edited July 7, 2013 by antfish

[antfish]

Without making the Americans seem like angels, you would not find any WWII historians that would describe that as genocide. .

USA was attacked by Japan first, and the atomic bombs actually led to a quicker end of WWII preventing many more months or years of conflict. Their actions were not to wipe out a race, just to wipe out the Japan military and end the conflict.

I thought the atomic bombs on Japan was after the war was effectively over and an appallingly murderous attack on Japan to demonstrate to Russia that America was the big boy in the street.

that is also what i learned in school.

Wrong. Invasion of the Jap Home Islands, starting with Kyushu, was then estimated at 1 Million Casualties for the Allies. The Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan prevented Genocide of the Japanese people. The Japanese leaders had committed to what they called 'Katsugo', which meant that everyone would fight to the death. Civilians too. Which included children, using makeshift weapons such as sharpened sticks, fighting to the death alongside soldiers. The unequalled brutality and savagery of the Pacific Campaign seriously worried the Americans, who wondered whether or not they would have to kill every last one of them to achieve victory. Truman said to suffer so many allied casualties in doing so, when they had in their arsenal a weapon that could end it , would have been irresponsible and unforgivable. How could he have faced the people.

I see. thats what you learned in school. i guess it was in the USA? and more than a few years ago.

Do they still teach that version in schools in America today? i thought that was also in America officially debunked (as in not to be told in that version anymore by the majority of historians)

[Beetlejuice]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

My guess is they know but it's just they think he was a cool dictator. Nothing wrong with that. But kinda tacky.

BTW, I don't know why everybody gets "offended" by the sight of Hitler. He was a German nationalist. He did what he did. It's history and he's long dead now. I mean, would you be offended by the sight of a picture of Genghis Khan? I wouldn't.

I would.

He looks exactly like my brother in law.

[Beetlejuice]

My mother is Jewish and she lost many cousins and family members during the Holocaust, providing of course you`re not a Holocaust denier and actually believe that millions of innocent people were brutishly murdered for no apparent reason than being labelled as something.

So for me, considering that if the Nazis would have invaded England during WW2, and that my family may have ended up as a pair of leather boots or a bar of soap, I find these Hitler images (however humorous) as intimidating and an insult to all the nationalities, including the Germans, who fought, suffered and died during that shitty war,

So I suppose the ways that people regard these images depends on how severely their elderly relatives or ancestors were affected during those times and what side of the fence you`re on.

My personal belief is; that the atrocities committed by Nazis and their collaborators during the war should never be forgotten and never be forgiven, as long as all this is still in living memory.

There can be nothing humorous about a brutal, crazed, mass murderer, in any shape or form.

the soap bar story is a myth. never happened.

Bored of this now.

I`m going to watch some porn and have a couple of beers.

Much more fun.

[cpofc]

that is also what i learned in school.

Wrong. Invasion of the Jap Home Islands, starting with Kyushu, was then estimated at 1 Million Casualties for the Allies. The Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan prevented Genocide of the Japanese people. The Japanese leaders had committed to what they called 'Katsugo', which meant that everyone would fight to the death. Civilians too. Which included children, using makeshift weapons such as sharpened sticks, fighting to the death alongside soldiers. The unequalled brutality and savagery of the Pacific Campaign seriously worried the Americans, who wondered whether or not they would have to kill every last one of them to achieve victory. Truman said to suffer so many allied casualties in doing so, when they had in their arsenal a weapon that could end it , would have been irresponsible and unforgivable. How could he have faced the people.

I see. thats what you learned in school. i guess it was in the USA? and more than a few years ago.

Do they still teach that version in schools in America today? i thought that was also in America officially debunked (as in not to be told in that version anymore by the majority of historians)

I am self educated, and I am NOT American. Everyone has a right to their own opinion - but not their own facts.

As a matter of fact, I left school at 15 and was running around Nippon the following year. (among other places in the far East)

Edited July 7, 2013 by cpofc

[antfish]

My mother is Jewish and she lost many cousins and family members during the Holocaust, providing of course you`re not a Holocaust denier and actually believe that millions of innocent people were brutishly murdered for no apparent reason than being labelled as something.

So for me, considering that if the Nazis would have invaded England during WW2, and that my family may have ended up as a pair of leather boots or a bar of soap, I find these Hitler images (however humorous) as intimidating and an insult to all the nationalities, including the Germans, who fought, suffered and died during that shitty war,

So I suppose the ways that people regard these images depends on how severely their elderly relatives or ancestors were affected during those times and what side of the fence you`re on.

My personal belief is; that the atrocities committed by Nazis and their collaborators during the war should never be forgotten and never be forgiven, as long as all this is still in living memory.

There can be nothing humorous about a brutal, crazed, mass murderer, in any shape or form.

the soap bar story is a myth. never happened.

Bored of this now.

I`m going to watch some porn and have a couple of beers.

Much more fun.

someone else called dachau a death camp. also not true. the death camps were all in the east. dachau was a normal prison KZ, but not set up for mass termination with gas chambers and all that.

If you wanna keep up the memory and things should be never be forgotten then you should memorize that in full accuracy and not turn into somekind of hollywood movie version of history.

If history is told with those inaccuracy it makes it only easy for the deniers and revisionists to play their trade.

[cpofc]

My mother is Jewish and she lost many cousins and family members during the Holocaust, providing of course you`re not a Holocaust denier and actually believe that millions of innocent people were brutishly murdered for no apparent reason than being labelled as something.

So for me, considering that if the Nazis would have invaded England during WW2, and that my family may have ended up as a pair of leather boots or a bar of soap, I find these Hitler images (however humorous) as intimidating and an insult to all the nationalities, including the Germans, who fought, suffered and died during that shitty war,

So I suppose the ways that people regard these images depends on how severely their elderly relatives or ancestors were affected during those times and what side of the fence you`re on.

My personal belief is; that the atrocities committed by Nazis and their collaborators during the war should never be forgotten and never be forgiven, as long as all this is still in living memory.

There can be nothing humorous about a brutal, crazed, mass murderer, in any shape or form.

the soap bar story is a myth. never happened.

Bored of this now.

I`m going to watch some porn and have a couple of beers.

Much more fun.

someone else called dachau a death camp. also not true. the death camps were all in the east. dachau was a normal prison KZ, but not set up for mass termination with gas chambers and all that.

If you wanna keep up the memory and things should be never be forgotten then you should memorize that in full accuracy and not turn into somekind of hollywood movie version of history.

If history is told with those inaccuracy it makes it only easy for the deniers and revisionists to play their trade.

yes indeed it does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCi_PLl-rJs

Established in March 1933, the Dachau concentration camp was the first regular concentration camp established by the National Socialist (Nazi) government. Heinrich Himmler, in his capacity as police president of Munich, officially described the camp as "the first concentration camp for political prisoners." It was located on the grounds of an abandoned munitions factory near the northeastern part of the town of Dachau, about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany.

During the first year, the camp held about 4,800 prisoners. Initially the internees consisted primarily of German Communists, Social Democrats, trade unionists, and other political opponents of the Nazi regime. Over time, other groups were also interned at Dachau, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma (Gypsies), homosexuals, as well as "asocials" and repeat criminal offenders. During the early years relatively few Jews were interned in Dachau and then usually because they belonged to one of the above groups or had completed prison sentences after being convicted for violating the Nuremberg Laws of 1935.

In early 1937, the SS, using prisoner labor, initiated construction of a large complex of buildings on the grounds of the original camp. Prisoners were forced to do this work, starting with the destruction of the old munitions factory, under terrible conditions. The construction was officially completed in mid-August 1938 and the camp remained essentially unchanged until 1945. Dachau thus remained in operation for the entire period of the Third Reich.

The number of Jewish prisoners at Dachau rose with the increased persecution of Jews and on November 10-11, 1938, in the aftermath of Kristallnacht, more than 10,000 Jewish men were interned there. (Most of men in this group were released after incarceration of a few weeks to a few months, many after proving they had made arrangements to emigrate from Germany.)

The Dachau camp was a training center for SS concentration camp guards, and the camp's organization and routine became the model for all Nazi concentration camps. The camp was divided into two sections--the camp area and the crematoria area. The camp area consisted of 32 barracks, including one for clergy imprisoned for opposing the Nazi regime and one reserved for medical experiments. The camp administration was located in the gatehouse at the main entrance. The camp area had a group of support buildings, containing the kitchen, laundry, showers, and workshops, as well as a prison block (Bunker). The courtyard between the prison and the central kitchen was used for the summary execution of prisoners. An electrified barbed-wire fence, a ditch, and a wall with seven guard towers surrounded the camp.

In 1942, the crematorium area was constructed next to the main camp. It included the old crematorium and the new crematorium (Barrack X) with a gas chamber. There is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings. Instead, prisoners underwent "selection"; those who were judged too sick or weak to continue working were sent to the Hartheim "euthanasia" killing center near Linz, Austria. Several thousand Dachau prisoners were murdered at Hartheim. Further, the SS used the firing range and the gallows in the crematoria area as killing sites for prisoners.

In Dachau, as in other Nazi camps, German physicians performed medical experiments on prisoners, including high-altitude experiments using a decompression chamber, malaria and tuberculosis experiments, hypothermia experiments, and experiments testing new medications. Prisoners were also forced to test methods of making seawater potable and of halting excessive bleeding. Hundreds of prisoners died or were permanently disabled as a result of these experiments.

Dachau prisoners were used as forced laborers. At first, they were employed in the operation of the camp, in various construction projects, and in small handicraft industries established in the camp. Prisoners built roads, worked in gravel pits, and drained marshes. During the war, forced labor utilizing concentration camp prisoners became increasingly important to German armaments production.

DACHAU SUBCAMPS

In the summer and fall of 1944, to increase war production, satellite camps under the administration of Dachau were established near armaments factories throughout southern Germany. Dachau alone had more than 30 large subcamps in which over 30,000 prisoners worked almost exclusively on armaments. Thousands of prisoners were worked to death.

THE LIBERATION OF DACHAU

As Allied forces advanced toward Germany, the Germans began to move prisoners from concentration camps near the front to prevent the liberation of large numbers of prisoners. Transports from the evacuated camps arrived continuously at Dachau, resulting in a dramatic deterioration of conditions. After days of travel, with little or no food or water, the prisoners arrived weak and exhausted, often near death. Typhus epidemics became a serious problem due to overcrowding, poor sanitary conditions, insufficient provisions, and the weakened state of the prisoners.

On April 26, 1945, as American forces approached, there were 67,665 registered prisoners in Dachau and its subcamps; more than half of this number were in the main camp. Of these, 43,350 were categorized as political prisoners, while 22,100 were Jews, with the remainder falling into various other categories. Starting that day, the Germans forced more than 7,000 prisoners, mostly Jews, on a death march from Dachau to Tegernsee far to the south. During the death march, the Germans shot anyone who could no longer continue; many also died of hunger, cold, or exhaustion. On April 29, 1945, American forces liberated Dachau. As they neared the camp, they found more than 30 railroad cars filled with bodies brought to Dachau, all in an advanced state of decomposition. In early May 1945, American forces liberated the prisoners who had been sent on the death march.

The number of prisoners incarcerated in Dachau between 1933 and 1945 exceeded 188,000. The number of prisoners who died in the camp and the subcamps between January 1940 and May 1945 was at least 28,000, to which must be added those who perished there between 1933 and the end of 1939, as well as an uncounted number of unregistered prisoners. It is unlikely that the total number of victims who died in Dachau will ever be known.

[hawker9000]

Something else to consider (not the Nazi thing) is that old Adolf pulled Germany out of a pretty serious recession in the 20's and gave the world the beetle.

I don't think he was elected (initially) on a policy of hatred...that came later and as a true politician sold this idea to the populace

He got the country working again..people found jobs

Unbelievable.

[ricku]

23 pages, and I can't find the answer to the question in my head.

Where is this place? I'm wanna go there and get myself some good ol nazi chicken.

Please give me the address.

Edited July 7, 2013 by ricku

[antfish]

someone else called dachau a death camp. also not true. the death camps were all in the east. dachau was a normal prison KZ, but not set up for mass termination with gas chambers and all that.

If you wanna keep up the memory and things should be never be forgotten then you should memorize that in full accuracy and not turn into somekind of hollywood movie version of history.

If history is told with those inaccuracy it makes it only easy for the deniers and revisionists to play their trade.

yes indeed it does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCi_PLl-rJs

Established in March 1933, the Dachau concentration camp was the first regular concentration camp established by the National Socialist (Nazi) government. Heinrich Himmler, in his capacity as police president of Munich, officially described the camp as "the first concentration camp for political prisoners." It was located on the grounds of an abandoned munitions factory near the northeastern part of the town of Dachau, about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany.

During the first year, the camp held about 4,800 prisoners. Initially the internees consisted primarily of German Communists, Social Democrats, trade unionists, and other political opponents of the Nazi regime. Over time, other groups were also interned at Dachau, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma (Gypsies), homosexuals, as well as "asocials" and repeat criminal offenders. During the early years relatively few Jews were interned in Dachau and then usually because they belonged to one of the above groups or had completed prison sentences after being convicted for violating the Nuremberg Laws of 1935.

In early 1937, the SS, using prisoner labor, initiated construction of a large complex of buildings on the grounds of the original camp. Prisoners were forced to do this work, starting with the destruction of the old munitions factory, under terrible conditions. The construction was officially completed in mid-August 1938 and the camp remained essentially unchanged until 1945. Dachau thus remained in operation for the entire period of the Third Reich.

The number of Jewish prisoners at Dachau rose with the increased persecution of Jews and on November 10-11, 1938, in the aftermath of Kristallnacht, more than 10,000 Jewish men were interned there. (Most of men in this group were released after incarceration of a few weeks to a few months, many after proving they had made arrangements to emigrate from Germany.)

The Dachau camp was a training center for SS concentration camp guards, and the camp's organization and routine became the model for all Nazi concentration camps. The camp was divided into two sections--the camp area and the crematoria area. The camp area consisted of 32 barracks, including one for clergy imprisoned for opposing the Nazi regime and one reserved for medical experiments. The camp administration was located in the gatehouse at the main entrance. The camp area had a group of support buildings, containing the kitchen, laundry, showers, and workshops, as well as a prison block (Bunker). The courtyard between the prison and the central kitchen was used for the summary execution of prisoners. An electrified barbed-wire fence, a ditch, and a wall with seven guard towers surrounded the camp.

In 1942, the crematorium area was constructed next to the main camp. It included the old crematorium and the new crematorium (Barrack X) with a gas chamber. There is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings. Instead, prisoners underwent "selection"; those who were judged too sick or weak to continue working were sent to the Hartheim "euthanasia" killing center near Linz, Austria. Several thousand Dachau prisoners were murdered at Hartheim. Further, the SS used the firing range and the gallows in the crematoria area as killing sites for prisoners.

In Dachau, as in other Nazi camps, German physicians performed medical experiments on prisoners, including high-altitude experiments using a decompression chamber, malaria and tuberculosis experiments, hypothermia experiments, and experiments testing new medications. Prisoners were also forced to test methods of making seawater potable and of halting excessive bleeding. Hundreds of prisoners died or were permanently disabled as a result of these experiments.

Dachau prisoners were used as forced laborers. At first, they were employed in the operation of the camp, in various construction projects, and in small handicraft industries established in the camp. Prisoners built roads, worked in gravel pits, and drained marshes. During the war, forced labor utilizing concentration camp prisoners became increasingly important to German armaments production.

DACHAU SUBCAMPS

In the summer and fall of 1944, to increase war production, satellite camps under the administration of Dachau were established near armaments factories throughout southern Germany. Dachau alone had more than 30 large subcamps in which over 30,000 prisoners worked almost exclusively on armaments. Thousands of prisoners were worked to death.

THE LIBERATION OF DACHAU

As Allied forces advanced toward Germany, the Germans began to move prisoners from concentration camps near the front to prevent the liberation of large numbers of prisoners. Transports from the evacuated camps arrived continuously at Dachau, resulting in a dramatic deterioration of conditions. After days of travel, with little or no food or water, the prisoners arrived weak and exhausted, often near death. Typhus epidemics became a serious problem due to overcrowding, poor sanitary conditions, insufficient provisions, and the weakened state of the prisoners.

On April 26, 1945, as American forces approached, there were 67,665 registered prisoners in Dachau and its subcamps; more than half of this number were in the main camp. Of these, 43,350 were categorized as political prisoners, while 22,100 were Jews, with the remainder falling into various other categories. Starting that day, the Germans forced more than 7,000 prisoners, mostly Jews, on a death march from Dachau to Tegernsee far to the south. During the death march, the Germans shot anyone who could no longer continue; many also died of hunger, cold, or exhaustion. On April 29, 1945, American forces liberated Dachau. As they neared the camp, they found more than 30 railroad cars filled with bodies brought to Dachau, all in an advanced state of decomposition. In early May 1945, American forces liberated the prisoners who had been sent on the death march.

The number of prisoners incarcerated in Dachau between 1933 and 1945 exceeded 188,000. The number of prisoners who died in the camp and the subcamps between January 1940 and May 1945 was at least 28,000, to which must be added those who perished there between 1933 and the end of 1939, as well as an uncounted number of unregistered prisoners. It is unlikely that the total number of victims who died in Dachau will ever be known.

Yes. Dachau was a concentration camp (KZ) but not build for mass extermination like the death camp in Auschwitz.

Read the full paragraph were you put some words in bold. The "gas chamber" in Dachau was not used to kill people. people were selected and then send to somewhere esle, the killing centers.

You cannot compare Dachau to Auschwitz and say they were basically the same.

your youtube history video starts also with an inaccuracy. with that Hitler quote about "make a lie big ..." and so on. thats a typical quote you can find in the internet, but no one has a reference when and where Hitler actually said it. because he never did.

that is some hollywood lvl history. but nothing you will hear from a real historian.

[cpofc]

I haven't compared any, you are the one doing that. I doubt the survivors of any of the camps would care for your splitting of hairs.

[antfish]

Something else to consider (not the Nazi thing) is that old Adolf pulled Germany out of a pretty serious recession in the 20's and gave the world the beetle.

I don't think he was elected (initially) on a policy of hatred...that came later and as a true politician sold this idea to the populace

He got the country working again..people found jobs

Unbelievable.

Hitler promised change and economic prosperity and jobs for everyone. Thats how he won the election. He didn't campaign with the promise to terminate all Jews or the start WWII.

And during the first years of his reign there was the end of economic recession and more jobs. the majority of Germans enjoyed to live under their dictator. he was also the time's man of the year.

the awakening came later.

[cpofc]

The source of Big Lie technique is this passage, taken from Chapter 10 of James Murphy's translation of Mein Kampf:

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

All this was inspired by the principle, which is quite true within itself, that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X

[antfish]

I haven't compared any, you are the one doing that. I doubt the survivors of any of the camps would care for your splitting of hairs.

Someone came up with the jewish soup myth, someone else called Dachau a death camp said its same like Auschwitz.

but there was no soup production out of dead jews and Dachau wasn't a death camp with mass termination.

As i said, if you come with inaccuracies you open the door for holocaust deniers and revisionists who will call you a liar.

Avoid inaccuracies.

That is not splitting hairs. believe, i went little bit longer to school. i am not just self educated with youtube videos.

[antfish]

The source of Big Lie technique is this passage, taken from Chapter 10 of James Murphy's translation of Mein Kampf:

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

All this was inspired by the principle, which is quite true within itself, that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X

look at the youtube video.(at 0:25) the big lie quote there is totally different. "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it ." thats a fabrication. Hitler never said that.

But it's often quoted by the Hitler experts of the internets. and only the English part of the internet.

one a side note, in that Mein Kampf passage Hitler accused his political enemies, the Jewish Marxists to use the big lie technique.

And before lecturing Thais and complain that they know so little and are so ignorant about European History, make sure you know your own stuff well.

Edited July 7, 2013 by antfish

[cpofc]

I haven't compared any, you are the one doing that. I doubt the survivors of any of the camps would care for your splitting of hairs.

Someone came up with the jewish soup myth, someone else called Dachau a death camp said its same like Auschwitz.

but there was no soup production out of dead jews and Dachau wasn't a death camp with mass termination.

As i said, if you come with inaccuracies you open the door for holocaust deniers and revisionists who will call you a liar.

Avoid inaccuracies.

That is not splitting hairs. believe, i went little bit longer to school. i am not just self educated with youtube videos.

Well I am not this mysterious 'someone', and I have not posted anything of a sort. So where are you coming from? You just dance from one item to another as you get pinned down.

As for school. I went to the best university in the world.

[Escapologist]

Some guy in India also had a shop with the same name year or two ago. Of course he caved in to the thugs of cultural Marxism once the anointed ones of the western media found out.

Glad to see that the Thais are still above subservience to western ideology. It is ruining the west and Thais should resist it or they will lose their Thailand too.

For indoctrinated westerners to suggest that this shop is an endorsement of totalitarianism is an insult to the Thais, who appear to have done a better job of resisting it than the west has, and an insult to those who died protecting freedoms now lost to political correctness.

I will find this place this week, eat there, take photos and laugh about them with friends and family when I return home from Thailand

[cpofc]

My interests lie in WW2 history, which is what got me into this debate, not so much with Thai Marketing. After all it is amazing Thailand.

But where do you think the principles of 'Kreng Jai' fits into the scheme of things.

One would say it is the very basis of PC. The Thais were being PC before we (us westerners) had a word for it.

[chiang mai]

My mother is Jewish and she lost many cousins and family members during the Holocaust, providing of course you`re not a Holocaust denier and actually believe that millions of innocent people were brutishly murdered for no apparent reason than being labelled as something.

So for me, considering that if the Nazis would have invaded England during WW2, and that my family may have ended up as a pair of leather boots or a bar of soap, I find these Hitler images (however humorous) as intimidating and an insult to all the nationalities, including the Germans, who fought, suffered and died during that shitty war,

So I suppose the ways that people regard these images depends on how severely their elderly relatives or ancestors were affected during those times and what side of the fence you`re on.

My personal belief is; that the atrocities committed by Nazis and their collaborators during the war should never be forgotten and never be forgiven, as long as all this is still in living memory.

There can be nothing humorous about a brutal, crazed, mass murderer, in any shape or form.

the soap bar story is a myth. never happened.

Bored of this now.

I`m going to watch some porn and have a couple of beers.

Much more fun.

someone else called dachau a death camp. also not true. the death camps were all in the east. dachau was a normal prison KZ, but not set up for mass termination with gas chambers and all that.

If you wanna keep up the memory and things should be never be forgotten then you should memorize that in full accuracy and not turn into somekind of hollywood movie version of history.

If history is told with those inaccuracy it makes it only easy for the deniers and revisionists to play their trade.

You don't know what you're talking about, Dachau was,in the early stages of the war, a normal prison, subsequently it became a renowned death camp, do your research.

[Appert]

Everything goes as long as Thailand or Thais aren't being ridiculed or offended. I remember an article about a Swiss guy who drew a mustache on the wrong portrait in Thailand for a joke and was sentences to 10-15 years in jail

[cpofc]

23 pages, and I can't find the answer to the question in my head.

Where is this place? I'm wanna go there and get myself some good ol nazi chicken.

Please give me the address.

When you hit Munich, take Highway 304.

[antfish]

someone else called dachau a death camp. also not true. the death camps were all in the east. dachau was a normal prison KZ, but not set up for mass termination with gas chambers and all that.

If you wanna keep up the memory and things should be never be forgotten then you should memorize that in full accuracy and not turn into somekind of hollywood movie version of history.

If history is told with those inaccuracy it makes it only easy for the deniers and revisionists to play their trade.

You don't know what you're talking about, Dachau was,in the early stages of the war, a normal prison, subsequently it became a renowned death camp, do your research.

In the all the twelve years Dachau KZ existed died less people than in one month in Auschwitz (or in one night in Dresden)

Auschwitz was a death camp, an extermination camp , but Dachau KZ, horrible as it was, not.

[Sing_Sling]

My guess is they know but it's just they think he was a cool dictator. Nothing wrong with that. But kinda tacky.

BTW, I don't know why everybody gets "offended" by the sight of Hitler. He was a German nationalist. He did what he did. It's history and he's long dead now. I mean, would you be offended by the sight of a picture of Genghis Khan? I wouldn't.

you really should read previous posts before coming out with this sort of statement.

Where do you get the arrogance from to tell him to read previous posts in reference to his view - perhaps you should read the differing views on this topic - judging by your pathetic admonition . . . you haven't.

Because this thread has gone to 20 plus pages because of a comment like this already and yes if you take a tiny look you'll see i have posted throughout them. I have read them all. As for arrogance---yes I guess I was, but I'm not alone in that am I?

I didn't doubt that you have read through them - so why do you suggest that another poster hadn't as a form of invalidating their opinion? That's a pathetic form of argumentation - and as for arrogance . . . no, you're not alone but why would you want to join that crowd?

[Sing_Sling]

someone else called dachau a death camp. also not true. the death camps were all in the east. dachau was a normal prison KZ, but not set up for mass termination with gas chambers and all that.

If you wanna keep up the memory and things should be never be forgotten then you should memorize that in full accuracy and not turn into somekind of hollywood movie version of history.

If history is told with those inaccuracy it makes it only easy for the deniers and revisionists to play their trade.

You don't know what you're talking about, Dachau was,in the early stages of the war, a normal prison, subsequently it became a renowned death camp, do your research.

It would be better to prove your case rather than telling others to 'do their research' - that's the lazy way out

[Sing_Sling]

I thought the atomic bombs on Japan was after the war was effectively over and an appallingly murderous attack on Japan to demonstrate to Russia that America was the big boy in the street.

that is also what i learned in school.

Wrong. Invasion of the Jap Home Islands, starting with Kyushu, was then estimated at 1 Million Casualties for the Allies. The Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan prevented Genocide of the Japanese people. The Japanese leaders had committed to what they called 'Katsugo', which meant that everyone would fight to the death. Civilians too. Which included children, using makeshift weapons such as sharpened sticks, fighting to the death alongside soldiers. The unequalled brutality and savagery of the Pacific Campaign seriously worried the Americans, who wondered whether or not they would have to kill every last one of them to achieve victory. Truman said to suffer so many allied casualties in doing so, when they had in their arsenal a weapon that could end it , would have been irresponsible and unforgivable. How could he have faced the people.

That's quite a deranged view of history - but then you're self-educated . . . or did you go to the 'best university in the world'? Can one do both?

[Sing_Sling]

I am self educated,

That is obvious . . .

I went to the best university in the world.

[Soutpeel]

I am self educated,

That is obvious . . .

I went to the best university in the world.

Could we suggest "cpotc" attempted to use the "big lie technique" and failed by not saying the same thing ?...LOL

[Sing_Sling]

^ We could, but that would be too 'on-topic'.

[chiang mai]

someone else called dachau a death camp. also not true. the death camps were all in the east. dachau was a normal prison KZ, but not set up for mass termination with gas chambers and all that.

If you wanna keep up the memory and things should be never be forgotten then you should memorize that in full accuracy and not turn into somekind of hollywood movie version of history.

If history is told with those inaccuracy it makes it only easy for the deniers and revisionists to play their trade.

You don't know what you're talking about, Dachau was,in the early stages of the war, a normal prison, subsequently it became a renowned death camp, do your research.

It would be better to prove your case rather than telling others to 'do their research' - that's the lazy way out

And it would be better if you were to usefully comment on the subject matter rather than critique the style and method of comments made by Bluespunk, myself and others!