johng Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Heavy rain again just now I wonder if it'll flood again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwex Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 you can clearly see the in the photo looking down from central the mafia sandbags protecting their sand empire are forcing the water level to rise on the road and eventually over come the sandbags protecting central. I guess the council is as likely stop the mafia sandbags as they are at stopping their jetski scams. its almost like the council has a financial interest in it, but of course thats not possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 all the gunge was washed into the sea picture is 1000 words and people swim in it eat the seafood yuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 To my knowledge the Pattaya Beach Road has been flooding like this for over 20 years so its hardly what you would call news. however 50 cm of rain thats nearly 1 1/2 feet thats a lot ! +1....Happens after many big rains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Well let us be honest here, the beach needs at least an annual "wash" because the rest of the year it is used as the night-toilet for man and beast alike. Taking the sand out to be washed is a brilliant idea that no Thai official would consider. Edited October 25, 2013 by Cuban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 50cms of rain in half an hour ? Not possible ! Maybe 50 mm. That would still be a heavy rainfall at 4ins per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Maximum rainfall rate recorded at around 6 inches per hour, so it has to be 20 mm, not 20cms in half an hour as reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizardofRnR Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) After living in Thailand now for 26 years ,I truly feel like its rained more in the last 6 years then it had in the previous 20 years that I lived here ,Phuket and Bkk ! I remember big downpours flooding Pat Pong Rd. into Nam Ta-lat ,I've watched bar girls on the beach road not drop the curtains at The Paradise bar on Beach rd. in Phuket until the squall was on top of us ,instead of a few minutes before when you could see it coming. Now it seems ,it just start raining like cats and dogs , as the saying goes. Just remember it has nothing to do with Global warming , just tell that to the folks in the USA that went thru Katrina & Sandy. Or the billions of dollars in destruction that happened in Colorado a few months ago! Sure does look like it doesn't matter if your at the beach or in the mountains ,when Mother Nature gets pissed off , she's not particular on where she sheds her tears!!! Yet we hear it has nothing to do with global warming , its just people imagining the movie WaterWorld coming to a planet near you!!! Edited October 29, 2013 by Rimmer Font size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Maximum rainfall rate recorded at around 6 inches per hour, so it has to be 20 mm, not 20cms in half an hour as reported Where you go to school? 6 inches - 150mm = 15cms , and from what i saw highly plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Pic from Central Festival on 23rd... more pics? We ex-pats may moan about it ......but surely The Central Shopping Mall "owners" have enough clout to rattle some "officials" cage at City Hall I think Central should look in the mirror before they make any complaint, because this event was predicted when they build Central festival. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Pic from Central Festival on 23rd... more pics? We ex-pats may moan about it ......but surely The Central Shopping Mall "owners" have enough clout to rattle some "officials" cage at City Hall I think Central should look in the mirror before they make any complaint, because this event was predicted when they build Central festival. Definitely pretty stupid for not considering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Sure Beach Road was flooded regularly. I remember Sep 2011 which might have been the worst. Big strong currents coming down from the Sois. Nothing new at all, just the yearly discussion: is it worse than ever? (some say so) The good thing at Beach Road: it can never be much higher than the pavement borders. Much worse in 2nd road in front of VT6 and Central: unpassable with all kind of regular cars/pickups as these buildings form a new kind of "concrete dam". "the system" at Central (at beach road) consists of nice "designer sandbags" The pumps would never be able to fight a flash flood. The good thing, yesterday (24. Oct) everything dried up, sun shining (as a friend told me). Will see what happens for the rest of today. Planning to be there on Sunday In a way it's worse than ever.......especially since they extended BR with another lane........previous it took you 3 lanes to cross/wade through the floods....now it takes 4 lanes (parking lane, the song taew lane, the slow traffic lane and the F1-lane) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonsalviz Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) This is a tropical country. This happens every year in many places. Edited October 31, 2013 by Rimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I think Central should look in the mirror before they make any complaint, because this event was predicted when they build Central festival.Definitely pretty stupid for not considering it. There's no evidence that Central is complaining about anything. Whenever anything is built in Pattaya, it's always accompanied by cries of doom and predictions of disaster. Central was predicted to fall down: we're all waiting for that. There's no evidence they didn't consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I think Central should look in the mirror before they make any complaint, because this event was predicted when they build Central festival.Definitely pretty stupid for not considering it. There's no evidence that Central is complaining about anything. Whenever anything is built in Pattaya, it's always accompanied by cries of doom and predictions of disaster. Central was predicted to fall down: we're all waiting for that. There's no evidence they didn't consider it. 1. There is also no evidence that they aren't 2 . Because it didn't fall down in the passed 3 years, doesn't mean it still can't fall down tomorrow or any given time in the future. Most buildings that fall down, actually only happens several years after the construction, rarely shortly after. 3 . Well if they considered it they should have done a better job preventing it. Makes you think if they did a similar job when considering the stability of the building . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson86 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I hope that everything in pattaya will turn well. Hope she is fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahooka Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 What`s the story behind that Central may collapse ??Just curious........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJ Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) City staff, that illegally rents 50% of the beach to umbrella vendors have their priorities. Anyone want to bet the City handed out those sandbags to the beach vendors? Edited October 31, 2013 by UncleJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 What`s the story behind that Central may collapse ??Just curious........................ Whilst they where still building the hotel above the 6th floor I was eating In a certain restaraunt with long penulum light filttings that visably swayed and you could actually feel the whole building shaking/ jolting occasionaly. Even now if you stand on the gangways that cross the void in the center of the building you can often feel the floor shaking. Bit like the wobbly bridge in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJ Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Whoa. Those gussets look like retro fit...not part of the original engineering design I am thinking. Did somebody skimp on the rebar or something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thanks for the info and pictures johng I also remember this episode, Please lets not get off topic, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 A troll post has been deleted. Please stay on topic and if you have nothing to say about the thread, then refrain from posting. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) There's no evidence that Central is complaining about anything. Whenever anything is built in Pattaya, it's always accompanied by cries of doom and predictions of disaster. Central was predicted to fall down: we're all waiting for that. There's no evidence they didn't consider it. 1. There is also no evidence that they aren't Which is why I didn't start flapping my gums and blowing hot air about a non-existent issue as far as we know. 2 . Because it didn't fall down in the passed 3 years, doesn't mean it still can't fall down tomorrow or any given time in the future. Most buildings that fall down, actually only happens several years after the construction, rarely shortly after. A broken clock is right twice a day. Someday the Empire State Building may also fall down. No doubt one of your many alarm bells will ring well in advance. Yes, let's sit around and list all the buildings we know and predict they will someday fall down. 3 . Well if they considered it they should have done a better job preventing it. Makes you think if they did a similar job when considering the stability of the building . But maybe not according to THEIR cost calculations and priorities that may not agree with your elaborate, authoritative spreadsheet and research. Anyway, no point in arguing with Momma, now is there? I shall wag my finger at them for you, ma'am. Satisfied? Edited November 1, 2013 by JSixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) 1. There is also no evidence that they aren't Which is why I didn't start flapping my gums and blowing hot air about a non-existent issue as far as we know. 2 . Because it didn't fall down in the passed 3 years, doesn't mean it still can't fall down tomorrow or any given time in the future. Most buildings that fall down, actually only happens several years after the construction, rarely shortly after. A broken clock is right twice a day. Someday the Empire State Building may also fall down. No doubt one of your many alarm bells will ring well in advance. Yes, let's sit around and list all the buildings we know and predict they will someday fall down. 3 . Well if they considered it they should have done a better job preventing it. Makes you think if they did a similar job when considering the stability of the building . But maybe not according to THEIR cost calculations and priorities that may not agree with your elaborate, authoritative spreadsheet and research. Anyway, no point in arguing with Momma, now is there? I shall wag my finger at them for you, ma'am. Satisfied? I know you love discussions and always talk around in circles, but let get things straight. 1. It wasn't me who said Central had logged any complaints, it was another poster who made that SUGGESTION, and i think that is his right. So what have you added to that so far ? 2. I know of quite a few large commercial buildings that have collapsed in Thailand, so it should be no surprise if there was one more added to the list in the future. 3. If the flooding wasn't any of THEIR priorities, than who are YOU to say that the safety of the building was one of THEIR priorities ? Edited November 1, 2013 by jbrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 It didn't look regular to me. I've never seen beach road that flooded so I think it's news. BTW, Central Mall lower level was NOT flooded. They've got a system apparently. They had to put it in after it got flooded when it just opened. If the floods put the families off going to Pattaya, long may they keep happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threelegcowboy Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 A falang told me that a Thai told him, so you know it as to be true that; The current higher than usual flooding has been caused by a new filtering system. This system can not process flood waters as fast as the old. Cleaner drain water to the gulf except for the over flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwex Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) that makes sense, its not as if the extra flooding could be caused by the new footpath being higher then the old one, nobody would be silly enough to make that mistake Edited November 1, 2013 by wwex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threelegcowboy Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 that makes sense, its not as if the extra flooding could be caused by the new footpath being higher then the old one, nobody would be silly enough to make that mistake I made the point of the higher walkway making a dam during the first flood on earlier thread. So this only adds to the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I wonder if the new lane has blocked water entry to the drain under the road? I saw it when it was put in and it's BIG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I wonder if the new lane has blocked water entry to the drain under the road? I saw it when it was put in and it's BIG. I wonder if you also noticed at that time that beach road slopes to the seaside, but the openings to the drain below the curb are on the left side of the road. e.g.the highest point of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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