Legal age of consent in Thailand 16 or 18

[Ulysses G.]

Why is it very important?

Accuracy.

[thailiketoo]

Why is it very important? So, i don't call someone a pedo for liking 12 year olds (who have started puberty)??

Personally, i think Hebephilia is sick too. If i were to fall into this category, i would seriously consider counseling.

And, in my opinion, if a person's sexual preference is determined by age, and if that age is preferred to be as young as legally possible, then there may be a problem.

I've found in life that the people who judge people are sometimes the worst offenders.

My brother's a poor missionaryHe saves little girlies from sinHe'll save you one for five dollarsMy God, how the money rolls in!

Two high school girls ambling down a flower-lined path visibly flinched when asked about Brother Swaggart. Their eyes widened with anxiety, and one stammered out what had overnight become a standard phrase to ward off outsiders: "No comment at this time." Some older church members were less reticent. "I am indignant," said a 47-year-old woman member of Swaggart's Assemblies of God Church. "How could he stand up there in the pulpit and preach against adultery and promiscuity when he was doing that kind of thing all this time?

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20098413,00.html

I feel that anyone should be able to talk about any subject without some would be preacher casting accusations about for the discussion of a subject.

Kudos for Thai Visa for not letting the witch hunters get the upper hand.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

And, in my opinion, if a person's sexual preference is determined by age, and if that age is preferred to be as young as legally possible, then there may be a problem.

Out of curiosity, what problem might that be?

Kinda sounds like "Well if someone brings as many bottles of wine into the country as is legally possible, then there may be a problem!" mmmkay..

I drive as fast as is legally possible. Problem. I pay as little tax as is legally possible. Problem.

If you have an issue with the laws as they currenty are then just say so; that would be a good discussion as that argument quickly veers into women's rights or advocates ageism.

[Water Buffalo]

Accuracy.

OK, my mistake, one who is attracted to pubescent children is not a pedophile, but a hebephile. A very fine line in sickness and probably a very fine line in damage done to the child. (if any difference at all)

And yes, contrary to the correction i received from another member earlier, i do regard a 10 year-old as a child (regardless of puberty).

I've found in life that the people who judge people are sometimes the worst offenders.

My brother's a poor missionaryHe saves little girlies from sinHe'll save you one for five dollarsMy God, how the money rolls in!

Two high school girls ambling down a flower-lined path visibly flinched when asked about Brother Swaggart. Their eyes widened with anxiety, and one stammered out what had overnight become a standard phrase to ward off outsiders: "No comment at this time." Some older church members were less reticent. "I am indignant," said a 47-year-old woman member of Swaggart's Assemblies of God Church. "How could he stand up there in the pulpit and preach against adultery and promiscuity when he was doing that kind of thing all this time?

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20098413,00.html

I feel that anyone should be able to talk about any subject without some would be preacher casting accusations about for the discussion of a subject.

Kudos for Thai Visa for not letting the witch hunters get the upper hand.

Most of your post was nonsense, i genuinely didn't understand most of it.

OK, well enjoy the upper hand, i won't be posting anymore on this thread, you will be glad to hear. Only a few of us left now and it feels like i'm in with the wrong crowd.

And, in my opinion, if a person's sexual preference is determined by age, and if that age is preferred to be as young as legally possible, then there may be a problem.

Out of curiosity, what problem might that be?

Kinda sounds like "Well if someone brings as many bottles of wine into the country as is legally possible, then there may be a problem!" mmmkay.. alt=crazy.gif width=20 height=27>

I drive as fast as is legally possible. Problem. I pay as little tax as is legally possible. Problem.

If you have an issue with the laws as they currenty are then just say so; that would be a good discussion as that argument quickly veers into women's rights or advocates ageism.

Some kind of psychiatric disorder. (unless that's not a problem)

Well, i drive as fast as the law allows too. Pay as little tax a possible too. But my sexual activity is not based on how young the law will allow.

Problem with the Thai law?

I think they got it right at 18. (despite 16 being acceptable in the country where i come from)

However, the loopholes allowed for 15 and 13, i disagree with.

[Travel2003]

I was fortunate enough that my now wife still dressed in the uniform when we met.

So no need for dress-ups.

She played the Prison Guard (in uniform) and you played the....?

She played the KTB service engineer and I played the ATM.

Technically, I believe she was the ATM, since you insert stuff.

lol

Anyhow, this is splitting hair, when the end result is the same, and there are so many other interesting posts in this thread lately.

[Travel2003]

A bit over the line when we can start determine if people are sick or not, based upon what we personally like or dislike.

Have a feeling this is where law-makers and/or professionals come in.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

She played the Prison Guard (in uniform) and you played the....?

She played the KTB service engineer and I played the ATM.

Technically, I believe she was the ATM, since you insert stuff. lol

Ehm.... right.. sure. Anyway, no need to get into too much detail.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Problem with the Thai law?

I think they got it right at 18. (despite 16 being acceptable in the country where i come from)

However, the loopholes allowed for 15 and 13, i disagree with.

Dammit.. We agree.

[thailiketoo]

A poster above wrote, "Most of your post was nonsense, i genuinely didn't understand most of it." I feel bad for the guy. I think I write quite clearly. But I'll try simply it. I have found that those that judge others whatever name you give them; preachers, priests, police chiefs or NGOs are usually the biggest sinners.

[simple1]

A poster above wrote, "Most of your post was nonsense, i genuinely didn't understand most of it." I feel bad for the guy. I think I write quite clearly. But I'll try simply it. I have found that those that judge others whatever name you give them; preachers, priests, police chiefs or NGOs are usually the biggest sinners.

Because they have the most opportunity for manipulation & sexual abuse being "authority figures"

[jpeg]

13 if they are your wife (with a judges permission)

15 if they are your gf (with parental permission)

20 if they are an employee

Remember, your own countries laws are also in effect, if you ever plan on returning there.

Yes, and a good thing 'your own countries laws are in effect'. Would you even contemplate as an adult having sex with a young teenager in your own country ?? I don't think so.

Maybe so, but this country welcomes pedophiles with open ... , despite what their faux media concern would have you believe.

[jpeg]

A bit over the line when we can start determine if people are sick or not, based upon what we personally like or dislike.

Have a feeling this is where law-makers and/or professionals come in.

[thailiketoo]

13 if they are your wife (with a judges permission)

15 if they are your gf (with parental permission)

20 if they are an employee

Remember, your own countries laws are also in effect, if you ever plan on returning there.

Yes, and a good thing 'your own countries laws are in effect'. Would you even contemplate as an adult having sex with a young teenager in your own country ?? I don't think so.

Maybe so, but this country welcomes pedophiles with open ... , despite what their faux media concern would have you believe.

Did Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter live here? Maybe you could provide a link to back up your assertions.

[quiuvo]

Accuracy.

OK, my mistake, one who is attracted to pubescent children is not a pedophile, but a hebephile. A very fine line in sickness and probably a very fine line in damage done to the child. (if any difference at all)

And yes, contrary to the correction i received from another member earlier, i do regard a 10 year-old as a child (regardless of puberty).

I've found in life that the people who judge people are sometimes the worst offenders.

My brother's a poor missionaryHe saves little girlies from sinHe'll save you one for five dollarsMy God, how the money rolls in!

Two high school girls ambling down a flower-lined path visibly flinched when asked about Brother Swaggart. Their eyes widened with anxiety, and one stammered out what had overnight become a standard phrase to ward off outsiders: "No comment at this time." Some older church members were less reticent. "I am indignant," said a 47-year-old woman member of Swaggart's Assemblies of God Church. "How could he stand up there in the pulpit and preach against adultery and promiscuity when he was doing that kind of thing all this time?

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20098413,00.html

I feel that anyone should be able to talk about any subject without some would be preacher casting accusations about for the discussion of a subject.

Kudos for Thai Visa for not letting the witch hunters get the upper hand.

Most of your post was nonsense, i genuinely didn't understand most of it.

OK, well enjoy the upper hand, i won't be posting anymore on this thread, you will be glad to hear. Only a few of us left now and it feels like i'm in with the wrong crowd.

And, in my opinion, if a person's sexual preference is determined by age, and if that age is preferred to be as young as legally possible, then there may be a problem.

Out of curiosity, what problem might that be?

Kinda sounds like "Well if someone brings as many bottles of wine into the country as is legally possible, then there may be a problem!" mmmkay.. alt=crazy.gif width=20 height=27>

I drive as fast as is legally possible. Problem. I pay as little tax as is legally possible. Problem.

If you have an issue with the laws as they currenty are then just say so; that would be a good discussion as that argument quickly veers into women's rights or advocates ageism.

Some kind of psychiatric disorder. (unless that's not a problem)

Well, i drive as fast as the law allows too. Pay as little tax a possible too. But my sexual activity is not based on how young the law will allow.

Problem with the Thai law?

I think they got it right at 18. (despite 16 being acceptable in the country where i come from)

However, the loopholes allowed for 15 and 13, i disagree with.

18 and 19 seem to be illegal also from my readings above. They say 20 is ok. So, if I bring my 19 year old son he will have to go with 20 and above. No 18 or 19.

[kblaze]

Maybe so, but this country welcomes pedophiles with open ... , despite what their faux media concern would have you believe.

Did Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter live here? Maybe you could provide a link to back up your assertions.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pervert-gary-glitter-fakes-illness-329171

[WinnieTheKhwai]

18 and 19 seem to be illegal also from my readings above. They say 20 is ok. So, if I bring my 19 year old son he will have to go with 20 and above. No 18 or 19.

Which readings where? In the scenario you mention, 18/19 is fine, and appropriate.

Only exception, potentially, and hypothetically, is if he plans to get it on with some rich chick against the will of her parents.

[quiuvo]

18 and 19 seem to be illegal also from my readings above. They say 20 is ok. So, if I bring my 19 year old son he will have to go with 20 and above. No 18 or 19.

Which readings where? In the scenario you mention, 18/19 is fine, and appropriate.

Only exception, potentially, and hypothetically, is if he plans to get it on with some rich chick against the will of her parents.

In the beginning of this thread some comments about females have to be 20 or have the consent of their parents. Your comments do not make sense. A poor girl who is 18 can have sex without the parents permission but a rich one can't ? Oh and what about for money? Same comment applies ?

[muddyleopad]

13 if they are your wife (with a judges permission)

15 if they are your gf (with parental permission)

20 if they are an employee

Remember, your own countries laws are also in effect, if you ever plan on returning there.

I am always suspicious of age of consent questions

[ahantu]

!8 may be allowed.

[wellred]

So the OP is involved with a Thai girl of 16 possibly younger. Step away now mate.

[SeabagsFull]

For both the OP & administrative junkies like myself, the following is for you.

Summary of Probably Correct Answers.

1. The legal ages of sexual consent in Thailand:

a. 20 – No undue restrictions; the safest.

b. 18 – Fairly safe; should take measures (e.g. photos or video with parents) to avoid possible back-door blackmail from inlaws.

c. 15 – Troublesome; should take corroborative steps to document parental consent; parents can apparently later change their minds

d. 13 – Dangerous; only permitted with both a judge’s written consent & both parents' permission, the latter of which a signed affidavit would surely be prudent.

Sources:

a. FiftyTwo post #2

b. Tywais post #5

c. http://www.thailandlawonline.com/laws-in-thailand/thailand-criminal-law-text-translation#276

d. Slipperylobster post #32

e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia#Thailand

2. Other countries’ more restrictive laws trump less restrictive Thai laws:

a. Although several U.S. states allow consensual sex for ages less than 18, federal statute prohibits having sex in a foreign land with anyone younger than 18.

b. Australia’s laws are apparently similar to the U.S.’

c. AOC in the U.K is apparently 16; however, “for offences like child pornography, prostitution, trafficking etc., any victim aged under 18 is a considered a child.”

d. France’s AOC is apparently 15.

Sources:

a. Masuk post #42

b. Thailiketoo post #64

c. SeabgasFull post #135:

d. http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/statutory-rape-the-age-of-consent.html

e. Attrayant post #146

f. http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/citizensguide/citizensguide_trafficking.html

g. FiftyTwo post #147
h. Brewsterbudgen post #149

3. Disclaimers.

a. I used the word “apparently” when relying on a TV blogger’s post.

b. Wikipedia articles are not normally considered legitimate sources of information.

c. Laws change on the fly. Some of the above may have already changed, while others may have changed by the time a future TV visitor needs the information.

[quiuvo]

For both the OP & administrative junkies like myself, the following is for you.

Summary of Probably Correct Answers.

1. The legal ages of sexual consent in Thailand:

a. 20 No undue restrictions; the safest.

b. 18 Fairly safe; should take measures (e.g. photos or video with parents) to avoid possible back-door blackmail from inlaws.

c. 15 Troublesome; should take corroborative steps to document parental consent; parents can apparently later change their minds

d. 13 Dangerous; only permitted with both a judges written consent & both parents permission, the latter of which a signed affidavit would surely be prudent.

Sources:

a. FiftyTwo post #2

b. Tywais post #5

c. http://www.thailandlawonline.com/laws-in-thailand/thailand-criminal-law-text-translation#276

d. Slipperylobster post #32

e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia#Thailand

2. Other countries more restrictive laws trump less restrictive Thai laws.

a. Although several U.S. states allow consensual sex for ages less than 18, federal statute prohibits having sex with in a foreign land with someone younger than 18 years old.

b. Australias laws are apparently similar to the U.S.

c. AOC in the U.K is apparently 16; however, for offences like child pornography, prostitution, trafficking etc., any victim aged under 18 is a considered a child.

d. Frances AOC is apparently 15.

Sources:

a. Masuk post #42

b. Thailiketoo post #64

c. SeabgasFull post #135:

d. http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/statutory-rape-the-age-of-consent.html

e. Attrayant post #146

f. http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/citizensguide/citizensguide_trafficking.html

g. FiftyTwo post #147

h. Brewsterbudgen post #149

3. Disclaimers.

a. I used the word apparently when relying on a TV bloggers post.

b. Wikipedia articles are not normally considered legitimate sources of information.

c. Laws change on the fly. Some of the above may have already changed, while others may have changed by the time a future TV visitor needs the information.

Thank you for your summation. My girlfriend (36 yrs old) sort of agrees with it.

[timtscott]

Stick to women. Regardless of the law did you have judgement to make good decisions at age 16 or whatever? My rule of thumb is any woman 23 or older is fair game but younger than that I stay away... if you have to ask a question regarding age of consent then she is provably too young.

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[thailiketoo]

Stick to women. Regardless of the law did you have judgement to make good decisions at age 16 or whatever? My rule of thumb is any woman 23 or older is fair game but younger than that I stay away... if you have to ask a question regarding age of consent then she is provably too young.

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To class up the thread with some historical perspectives.

Nonetheless, belief in the existence of a "rule of thumb" law to excuse spousal abuse can be traced as far back as 1782, the year that James Gillray published his satirical cartoon Judge Thumb. The cartoon lambastes Sir Francis Buller, a British judge, for allegedly ruling that a man may legally beat his wife, provided that he used a stick no thicker than his thumb.

[lostmebike]

Oh dear. Grandpas got his eye on one of the village girls. Wonder if he rides a chopper too

[Cantankerous]

Quite a few moral compasses require adjusting.

[aveabeeror2]

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[thailiketoo]

Quite a few moral compasses require adjusting.

Cast aspersions on the lot of us will ya? Now who would you be talking about laddie?

[BlueSkyCowboy]

What a crazy topic? Maybe having a interest in Women of the same age or close to it? What do you think?

Is there a legal age for Ladyboys? May solve the problems of the Phedos

[Raybo]

Probably if you are a farang with money, the age of consent would be 120

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