webfact Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thai protest leader told to surrenderBy English NewsBANGKOK, Dec 5 – Thailand's anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, charged with insurrection and several other offences, is liable to a 3-15 years’ jail term while those providing him with medical treatment and shelter are also guilty of offenses, according to senior Cabinet members.Deputy Prime Minister/Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, newly-appointed chairman of the Centre for Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), called on Mr Suthep to give himself up before holding future dialogues with the government.The government can be charged with becoming Mr Suthep’s accomplice - a breach against Article 114 of the Criminal Code - if it holds talks with the protest leader, said Mr Surapong.Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, however, held a dialogue with Mr Suthep in the presence of the country's top military brass on Sunday. Mr Surapong did not mention the Sunday talk.Asked if the negotiation forum would not be held unless Mr Suthep surrenders, Mr Surapong said, “Yes, Mr Suthep must surrender and accept the court’s power. The insurrection charges prohibit him from leading the massive protest.”Mr Surapong ruled out Mr Suthep’s proposed interim government under the imposition of Section 7 of the Constitution, saying it was Mr Suthep’s imagination, which he said was impossible.However, the government is willing to listen to his proposals concerning the use of Sections 3 and 7 of the Constitution as long as it is in accord with the democratic system, he said.Mr Surapong said he believed Cabinet members could return to work at Government House but “we will put up barricades outside the premise to be on the safe side.” (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-12-05 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 Why should he surrender? You revoke the bail of Jatuporn first. Oh and Thaksin should surrender also. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farang0tang Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 Providing medical treatment is an offence? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 Surapong, you know where he is, go and arrest him...................if you dare. Coming from a character of your stature sir, I find the idea quite amusing since your cousin has been giving the country the middle finger for years. Suthep is available for arrest anytime, he was even in a closed room with the P.M. and the army chief surrounded by police officers and walked out free as a bird. Right now Suthep is extracting the urine. This is theatrics of Shakespearean quality. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gsxrnz Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 Surapong, you know where he is, go and arrest him...................if you dare. Coming from a character of your stature sir, I find the idea quite amusing since your cousin has been giving the country the middle finger for years. Suthep is available for arrest anytime, he was even in a closed room with the P.M. and the army chief surrounded by police officers and walked out free as a bird. Right now Suthep is extracting the urine. This is theatrics of Shakespearean quality. My Good Sir! Methinks that is a serious injustice towards Mr. Shakespeare and his literature. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Providing medical treatment is an offence? Let's not stop at Suthep! How about charging the military with providing medical assistance to those mobsters who destroyed government property...and Yingluck of course. Give surapong a tissue, his nose is dripping brown.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggold Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 Surapong, you know where he is, go and arrest him...................if you dare. Coming from a character of your stature sir, I find the idea quite amusing since your cousin has been giving the country the middle finger for years. Suthep is available for arrest anytime, he was even in a closed room with the P.M. and the army chief surrounded by police officers and walked out free as a bird. Right now Suthep is extracting the urine. This is theatrics of Shakespearean quality. Lets face it even the government are extraction the Urine, They had more than one chance to arrest Suthep, Why didn't they? So much BS in Thai polotics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Providing medical treatment is an offence? Let's not stop at Suthep! How about charging the military with providing medical assistance to those mobsters who destroyed government property...and Yingluck of course. Give surapong a tissue, his nose is dripping brown.. What government property was that? Did they burn buildings to the ground? Were they armed with automatic weapons? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgver Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Good to ask Khun Suthep to surrender but don't think that he will surrender even dialogue. Before dialogue, he will surely send to jail. Nobody is stupid enough to surrender. Bad strategy! Edited December 5, 2013 by macgver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Isn't going to happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA&feature=player_detailpage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sing_Sling Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 Why should he surrender? You revoke the bail of Jatuporn first. Oh and Thaksin should surrender also. One has nothing to do with the other, this is a game but not a kiddies game . . . The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law. True, but again, that's not the way it works. If he's charged with something he should hand himself in or the police should arrest him. This whole thing is simply so very messed up, with leaders flouting the law daily - yes, that includes Thaksin, but he is overseas thanks to someone giving him his passport to go to Beijing fr the Olympics It didn't start with Thaksin, nor will it end when he is no longer around . . . it is in the whole fabric of society . . . disgusting 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pib Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeThePoster Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 ....those providing him with medical treatment......are also guilty of offenses...... Sickening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT One of those persons was Surapong (Thaksins cousin) who personally carried Thaksins NEW Thai passport to Dubai. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT Not wanting to split hairs, but since when is it a crime to fly to Dubai and meet Thaksin? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Who the hell would listen to that alien??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Do you honestly think this pitbull is going to listen to this poodle? Edited December 5, 2013 by ratcatcher 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davejones Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 So he's saying that Yinluck has already committed an offence by talking to him? So why hasn't she been arrested? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT Not wanting to split hairs, but since when is it a crime to fly to Dubai and meet Thaksin? The government can be charged with becoming Mr Suthep’s accomplice - a breach against Article 114 of the Criminal Code - if it holds talks with the protest leader, said Mr Surapong. I don't know the wording of article 114 but if it relates to someone who is charged with or convicted of a crime then it could be a crime. It depends if it also applies to actions taking place outside the kingdom. If it doesn't then no it isn't a crime although that could be seen as splitting hairs and hypocritical at least. Of course he made no mention of the meeting with Yingluck with the military present. Of course the reason they want him to surrender is they know what trouble it would cause if they arrested him. It wouldn't make sense for them to do that but I think they're being equally petty with this suggestion as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT One of those persons was Surapong (Thaksins cousin) who personally carried Thaksins NEW Thai passport to Dubai. Have they replied to the Ombudsman about that or have they got another 30 days ....... again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Suthep will certainly turn himself in, when he is ready. Until then he will follow the age old tradition of ignoring the suggestions of people like Surapong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It's Ist April 24/7 at the moment, especially with clowns like Surapong being allowed anywhere near the top of the government hierarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thailand's anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, charged with insurrection and several other offences, is liable to a 3-15 years’ jail term while those providing him with medical treatment and shelter are also guilty of offenses, according to senior Cabinet members. "while those providing him with medical treatment and shelter are also guilty of offenses" well as I see it, the current government is aiding a convicted criminal to evade judicial punishment for his crimes, is not their actions criminal too??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooweerup Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Isn't going to happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA&feature=player_detailpage Love it. Pretty much sums up the whole political situation at the moment. Edited December 5, 2013 by Kooweerup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law. And as Surapong is a relative of Thaksin he surely is ashamed to have a fugitive criminal in his family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 One thing does have something to do with the other actually. If you are going to enforce the law, don't do so selectively. Why should he surrender? You revoke the bail of Jatuporn first. Oh and Thaksin should surrender also. One has nothing to do with the other, this is a game but not a kiddies game . . . The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law. True, but again, that's not the way it works. If he's charged with something he should hand himself in or the police should arrest him. This whole thing is simply so very messed up, with leaders flouting the law daily - yes, that includes Thaksin, but he is overseas thanks to someone giving him his passport to go to Beijing fr the Olympics It didn't start with Thaksin, nor will it end when he is no longer around . . . it is in the whole fabric of society . . . disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2013 What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT One of those persons was Surapong (Thaksins cousin) who personally carried Thaksins NEW Thai passport to Dubai. Have they replied to the Ombudsman about that or have they got another 30 days ....... again? Or put it another way. Surapong should show respect for the laws and legal process by answering the questions of the ombudsman regarding the passport issuance. If not he should be punished appropriately and as provided by the law. By the way, a person occupying a senior ministerial post (e.g. foreign affairs) should be an upstanding example of values and a strong beacon of respect for the law. He fulfills neither. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkspeaker Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thaksin did return to face his charges, he then left again fearing he would be found guilty. I think by the time this is all over Suthep's case will wind up playing out that way, he faces cahrges, delays a little, then skips out fearing he will probably lose. You can't really blame them considering Thailand has no 'white-collar' prison and political prisoners and rich people who cheated on their taxes will have to goto a tough prison for several years if they decide to do the time. It would be funny if SUthep winds up living in that same Dubian gated community that Thaksin lives in. The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 More importantly is the baht getting weaker with all this turmoiI, I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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