Protesters lay wreath cremation flowers in front of Yingluck's house, then disperse

[winstonc]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

Yup they will win, then they will steal most of the 2.2 trillion and bring a fugitive home a free man ... is this really what you want?

By fugitive, you must mean Suthep who's failed to report to the police for 80+ murders charges and has an arrest warrant out that he's failing to comply with, right?

You should get your priorities straightened out. Being a fugitive from murder is worse than being a fugitive from corruption.

80 + murders eh..you know soooo much just stick to wearing your football shirt when you go out..you know nothing except trolling..i hope thats not you in the avatar picture if it is ..it speaks volumes...

[473geo]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

Yup they will win, then they will steal most of the 2.2 trillion and bring a fugitive home a free man ... is this really what you want?

No I'd rather see Suthep and his nationalistic supporters kick all the unattached and geriatric foreigners out of Thailand.

Better result all round, you agree?

[scorecard]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

Yup they will win, then they will steal most of the 2.2 trillion and bring a fugitive home a free man ... is this really what you want?

By fugitive, you must mean Suthep who's failed to report to the police for 80+ murders charges and has an arrest warrant out that he's failing to comply with, right?

You should get your priorities straightened out. Being a fugitive from murder is worse than being a fugitive from corruption.

Seems that you've got a highly selective memory.

[Scamper]

Two and a half years ago, if Yingluck had told her brother " I'm running this ship. No phone calls. No skype cabinet meetings, no family members and confidants in power, no policies dictated from abroad " - none of what is happening right now would have happened. None of it. But she didn't do that. ( And that, of course, is under the somewhat generous assumption that she would have been allowed to do that. And also, under the even more generous assumption that she would have been up for the job of governing. Pretty big assumptions ). But as soon as she was in office, the efforts for Thaksin's passport, the skype meetings, ministers travelling to meet him, and the continuous efforts to get an amnesty bill through - all culminating in this grand blunder of two months ago - have pretty much assured that her opportunity was lost.

[Siripon]

Two and a half years ago, if Yingluck had told her brother " I'm running this ship. No phone calls. No skype cabinet meetings, no family members and confidants in power, no policies dictated from abroad " - none of what is happening right now would have happened. None of it. But she didn't do that. ( And that, of course, is under the somewhat generous assumption that she would have been allowed to do that. And also, under the even more generous assumption that she would have been up for the job of governing. Pretty big assumptions ). But as soon as she was in office, the efforts for Thaksin's passport, the skype meetings, ministers travelling to meet him, and the continuous efforts to get an amnesty bill through - all culminating in this grand blunder of two months ago - have pretty much assured that her opportunity was lost.

Scamper- Thaksin appointed Yingluck to look after his affairs- how on earth could she have been Prime Minister otherwise?

Thaksin thinks, Pheua Thai does was the party's slogan in the last election- not Yingluck's thoughts!

The poor lady even thinks Singburi is next to the sea!

[metisdead]

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[waza]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

Replaced by an even more unconstitutional control over Thailand without even the slightest electoral mandate. A clear and obvious step back, brought to you by Suthep a guy that exceeds Thaksin in corruption. But hey, that must be allright, after all he is from Surat and is cheering for the other side...

What your red spin fails to address is this isn't about Suthep, he isn't the crux of the issue. What you fail to see is that these protestors don't follow Suthep because he is saintly, or even a good man. Like you they can see this mans faults, they are aware of his misdeeds and failings. They don't even follow him because they believe he is making merit for his past sins and wish to aid him in his repentance.

They follow him in greater and greater numbers because they have seen with their own eyes the shock and awe of the alternative. They have seen the utter desolation caused by 2 and a half years of total Thaksin rule. They have and continue to see the magnitude of this convicted criminals greed and corruption, even though its is dressed up with his sisters as a facade. Unlike you they are aware of the untold damage this criminal will do to the economy and the Thai people if he is allowed to continue his rape of Thailand. Unlike you they are willing to sacrifice their time and money to ensure that Thaksin doesn't prevail and that no like minded despot can likewise use the loopholes in the constitution to work against the best interests of Thailand and its institutions.

Unlike you they believe that it stops now and are prepared to do what it takes to build a democratic foundation that cant be undermined and perverted.

Edited December 22, 2013 by waza

[Mosha]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

Yup they will win, then they will steal most of the 2.2 trillion and bring a fugitive home a free man ... is this really what you want?

By fugitive, you must mean Suthep who's failed to report to the police for 80+ murders charges and has an arrest warrant out that he's failing to comply with, right?

You should get your priorities straightened out. Being a fugitive from murder is worse than being a fugitive from corruption.

The real PM had approx 3000 killed and you talk of 80+

[whybother]

"I'm not stupid enough to try"

But I guess you are now saying you don't agree he needs to be arrested and be tried for his misdemeanors?

There is an arrest warrant out for him. You suggested I should perform a citizens arrest. I said it would be stupid to try. No agreement or disagreement as to whether he should be arrested or not.

For the record, I think the charges of treason and sedition for the current protests, and also murder for the 2010 protests are ridiculous.

[jackrich]

The poor lady even thinks Singburi is next to the sea!

Source for that statement, please?

[Baerboxer]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

where do you get this nonsense from? Vast majority of Thais - she's never had that.

48% of a 75% turnout at the last election. 49% of a female politician popularity contest in Isaan ! And polls that show her popularity is piss poor compared to 2 and a half years ago, She's never had the vast majority with her.

Dream on - but stop driveling on that the "vast majority of Thais are with her" - unless you have some proof to discount all the evidence to the contrary.

[Baerboxer]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

Yup they will win, then they will steal most of the 2.2 trillion and bring a fugitive home a free man ... is this really what you want?

By fugitive, you must mean Suthep who's failed to report to the police for 80+ murders charges and has an arrest warrant out that he's failing to comply with, right?

You should get your priorities straightened out. Being a fugitive from murder is worse than being a fugitive from corruption.

Suthep has been charged with murder and insurrection. He has not been tried or found guilty of either.

Thaksin has been convicted in a court, fled and has never appealed the verdict. He chooses to try to whitewash the conviction and outstanding more serious charges through political intrigue and changing the law to favor himself. He does not try to contest these in court. He has not been charged, yet, with the murders of those slaughtered in the "war" on drugs without any fair trial or the Muslims executed under his watch. Terrorist charges concerning his leading role in the 2010 insurgency are under review by the new AG as his predecessor decided not to prosecute for a flimsy and ridiculous reason,

Now, who is the biggest fugitive?

[Siripon]

The poor lady even thinks Singburi is next to the sea!

Source for that statement, please?

Her own words a few months ago when talking about the proposed flood project. It was in the Thai press and if you google it in Thai you will find the reference.

She has also said Had Yai is a province and Sydney is a country.

Never mind, she's the PM, not the Foreign Minister or the Minister for the Environment, though she is the Defence Minister!

[philw]

She gets a wreath while Abhisit's house gets blood. Shows a big difference between the protestors today and the red idiots.

Don't think so, same / same.

No difference at all, just nuances of political intimidation or expression. ( depends how you look at it. ).

"Red idiots " ( your phrase ) are showing exemplary restraint in the face of deliberate provocation.

Instead of being inflammatory, perhaps you should recognise the restraint so far shown by the "red idiots".

Who are the people rejecting dialogue and compromise at this point ???

Edited December 22, 2013 by philw

[philw]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

where do you get this nonsense from? Vast majority of Thais - she's never had that.

48% of a 75% turnout at the last election. 49% of a female politician popularity contest in Isaan ! And polls that show her popularity is piss poor compared to 2 and a half years ago, She's never had the vast majority with her.

Dream on - but stop driveling on that the "vast majority of Thais are with her" - unless you have some proof to discount all the evidence to the contrary.

Er........

Parties Constituency Proportional TOTAL Votes % Seats Votes % Seats Seats % Pheu Thai 12,211,604 44.3 204 15,744,190 48.41 61 265 53.0% Democrat 8,907,140 32.3 115 11,433,762 35.15 44 159 31.8%

4.3 million is a pretty clear margin.

Sorry about that.

Please now admit the error.

Her is the link to wilki showing the results

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

Edited December 22, 2013 by philw

[Pi Sek]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

Yup they will win, then they will steal most of the 2.2 trillion and bring a fugitive home a free man ... is this really what you want?

By fugitive, you must mean Suthep who's failed to report to the police for 80+ murders charges and has an arrest warrant out that he's failing to comply with, right?

You should get your priorities straightened out. Being a fugitive from murder is worse than being a fugitive from corruption.

All this tit-for-tat bickering is rather sad and has led to a massive reduction in my posting on this forum... but you really don't want to go down that road if you're trying to belittle Thaksin's crimes with Suthep's.

[Loles]

They think this is very funny.

They think they will be better.

May be ....

... better in stealing, cheating and mendacity under the duce benito suthep.

[Tokay]

... and then they dispersed. How nice.

[Soi Sauce]

She gets a wreath while Abhisit's house gets blood. Shows a big difference between the protestors today and the red idiots.

Shows a massive difference in the philosophy of the 2 camps.

Please Dems, declare a war on corruption and execute 2,500 plus politicians and civil servants, then say their leaders did it to protect themselves.

Publish the names and numbers in every daily paper, and declare yourself heroes for doing such.

I am sure the public will be thrilled as corruption is harming this country more than drugs ever have or will.

Problem solved.

PS. The war on drugs started because whose son was taking cocaine? Who's in charge of the corruption? And who's in charge of the country?

Surely could not be another relative causing all this.

Edited December 22, 2013 by Soi Sauce

[metisdead]

Nonsense posts in overly large font have been removed. Some other off topic posts have been removed.

[MAJIC]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

"reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated"

If you paraphrase someone,it's customary to give credit to the author,in this case its: Mark Twain.

The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/marktwain141773.html#GHFvysiEXkpfdS7z.99

[sjaak327]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

Replaced by an even more unconstitutional control over Thailand without even the slightest electoral mandate. A clear and obvious step back, brought to you by Suthep a guy that exceeds Thaksin in corruption. But hey, that must be allright, after all he is from Surat and is cheering for the other side...

What your red spin fails to address is this isn't about Suthep, he isn't the crux of the issue. What you fail to see is that these protestors don't follow Suthep because he is saintly, or even a good man. Like you they can see this mans faults, they are aware of his misdeeds and failings. They don't even follow him because they believe he is making merit for his past sins and wish to aid him in his repentance.

They follow him in greater and greater numbers because they have seen with their own eyes the shock and awe of the alternative. They have seen the utter desolation caused by 2 and a half years of total Thaksin rule. They have and continue to see the magnitude of this convicted criminals greed and corruption, even though its is dressed up with his sisters as a facade. Unlike you they are aware of the untold damage this criminal will do to the economy and the Thai people if he is allowed to continue his rape of Thailand. Unlike you they are willing to sacrifice their time and money to ensure that Thaksin doesn't prevail and that no like minded despot can likewise use the loopholes in the constitution to work against the best interests of Thailand and its institutions.

Unlike you they believe that it stops now and are prepared to do what it takes to build a democratic foundation that cant be undermined and perverted.

The problem with your rant is that I am not on the red side. I am no fan of Thaksin anymore than I am a fan of Suthep. You obviously missed the point, even though unconstitutional and electoral mandate are pretty specific clues to the point I am trying to make. Reform has to be achieved through democratic means, the last time they tried it via undemocratic means hasn't worked out, as evidenced by this whole saga.

I know some people on here seem to think a coup or Suthep's council is the better way, the problem is these people have short memories and live in a dream world.

[binjalin]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

"reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated"

If you paraphrase someone,it's customary to give credit to the author,in this case its: Mark Twain.

The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/marktwain141773.html#GHFvysiEXkpfdS7z.99

"A quote by any other name would read as sweet"

William Shakespeare's play Romeo and Juliet

[diehard60]

To some of you that have replied to this topic - Would you like it if i were to put death wreathes in front of your home? Do you even know and understand what they mean??? I really wonder if you do.

[whybother]

To some of you that have replied to this topic - Would you like it if i were to put death wreathes in front of your home? Do you even know and understand what they mean??? I really wonder if you do.

I would certainly prefer a death wreath than tainted blood.

Do you have any idea what symbolism means?

[tezzainoz]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

I must correct your incorrect Posting

"greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of (PAID) Thais"

[tezzainoz]

She gets a wreath while Abhisit's house gets blood. Shows a big difference between the protestors today and the red idiots.

Its good to see someone remembers Truth in history

It seems there are may posters who want to forget what really happened when the Red Shirts did the same thing

[mojorison]

She gets a wreath while Abhisit's house gets blood. Shows a big difference between the protestors today and the red idiots.

Its good to see someone remembers Truth in history

It seems there are may posters who want to forget what really happened when the Red Shirts did the same thing

Oh, I thought the symbolism with the blood was that he had "blood on his hands", the wreath I presumed meant, "you're dead". Yeah, same, but different. Have an election you gutless $hits.

[mikemac]

Let's not forget Suthep has a case ending with the DSI where he transferred hundreds of Rai of state land in Koh Samui to friends and family members, including his son.

Strangely, the hard drives with those files went missing during the Chaeng Watthana occupation.

Suthep's goal is not democracy but to avoid going to jail for corruption and the murders of 80+ people.

If you are trying to impress us with your vast knowledge of Thai politics, it is not working.

And if painting a picture of Suthep as the baddest dude ever, just to make Thaksin look good, well best of luck with that. Whatever floats your boat.

Your last poorly planned sentence probably reminded most TV posters of the evil despot from abroad, the one in "self imposed exile".

[bigbamboo]

Obviously signifying the death of Yinglucks the puppet's political career and with it the demise of the convicted criminals unconstitutional control over Thailand.

reports of her political death are greatly exaggerated as she has the vast majority of Thais with her and will win a landslide with, or without, the 'sour grapes' Dems participating

Yup they will win, then they will steal most of the 2.2 trillion and bring a fugitive home a free man ... is this really what you want?

By fugitive, you must mean Suthep who's failed to report to the police for 80+ murders charges and has an arrest warrant out that he's failing to comply with, right?

You should get your priorities straightened out. Being a fugitive from murder is worse than being a fugitive from corruption.

So why don't the police just arrest him?

If you dropped a cigarette end on the floor they'd be on your case in no time.