It should be this way !

[wanderluster]

funny today i got 1 of those junk emails that get circulated around,, specially with those of us with more time than we know what to do with..

here is a small part of it::

Language:

English, Welsh, Gaelic only.

Flags:

Illegal to display another flag except for consulates and embassies.

Culture:

Respect the British culture, and stop immigrants trying to change it into the mess left back in their own countries. Stop trying to change us!

if this is what the english want,, then why are they always trying to change things in thailand??? would they not have become the immigrants that they did not like back in england??? and those immigrants were most likely pressed to leave their former countries to go to england for financial or other reasons

can you image how stupid you would have to be to move to a different country and then complain about it all the time.. you could just go back home.. or would that put TV out of business..

PS this only mentions england because of the initial joke email,, all countries can be substituted

[rwdrwdrwd]

Not all English people feel that way, there are intolerant and xenophobic people there as with everywhere.

It is especially ironic coming from a country that has had constant immigration as far back as you go, the odds are vastly on that the publishers have Celtic or Roman ancestry, and that they are not including Christianity in their 'stop trying to change us' bleat.

[willyumiii]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

[geriatrickid]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

[Nignoy]

now you are being silly, what right had the british to try and stick their noses in , the US was already nosing around, look at the mess we left in india,pakistan,kenya and many other places,kin ell lots of our british mistakes are coming home to roost

[benalibina]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

But then, i guess, u would not be here.

[Soutpeel]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

it did work for a while, as others have posted a little bit of British colonialism 100 or so years ago, and things might be very different in Thailand now...one only has to look at how Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Austraila, India etc have all turned out

[NoshowJones]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

But then, i guess, u would not be here.

i don't think the Thais would be very happy having to pay for TV licences, council tax, bedroom tax etc etc etc etc etc.

[benalibina]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

But then, i guess, u would not be here.

i don't think the Thais would be very happy having to pay for TV licences, council tax, bedroom tax etc etc etc etc etc.

Ahhh well....substituted by corruption........

[kikoman]

Why do so many people stay in a country they dislike, I would not, where I came from they can have it, is no way better then the life I found in Thailand.

For those that say the colonialist left great system in place, can only be called ethnocentric BS, Mexico had a very advanced civilization in place on the arrival of the Colonialist, Many people harp on human sacrifices, which paled by the mass slaughters that took place in Europe with the Barbarian invasions (whole populations of cities slaughtered).

When they left the America's the Native populations never recovered from the holocaust visited upon them by the Colonialist.

Cheers

[geriatrickid]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

But then, i guess, u would not be here.

Be where? I do not forget that it was allied service people who gave their lives so that my family in China was eventually liberated from the Japanese occupation. Yes, my family benefited from its position within the European colonial rule, but it also contributed to China as did many other now forgotten colonialists. Several universities and hospitals built in the colonial era still remain in China. The large ports and railway systems seen in China and India today that have enabled these countries to achieve economic success were built by the colonial powers.

While Thailand collaborated with the Japanese juggernaut, many Chinese resisted and paid with their lives. As bad as the French colonial occupation of Indochine was, it left behind infrastructure, and a concept of government services including health care and schools. It can even be argued that the colonial system also set up its own dismantling because it provide the education and tools to the people who eventually took on the colonial powers and led their nations to independence. We did not see that in Thailand. Many former colonies went on to success, a respect for basic human rights, and the rule of law. It's not an all negative legacy. Canada, Australia and the Caribbean countries illustrate this. Even some African countries transitioned well.

[zydeco]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

But then, i guess, u would not be here.

Be where? I do not forget that it was allied service people who gave their lives so that my family in China was eventually liberated from the Japanese occupation. Yes, my family benefited from its position within the European colonial rule, but it also contributed to China as did many other now forgotten colonialists. Several universities and hospitals built in the colonial era still remain in China. The large ports and railway systems seen in China and India today that have enabled these countries to achieve economic success were built by the colonial powers.

While Thailand collaborated with the Japanese juggernaut, many Chinese resisted and paid with their lives. As bad as the French colonial occupation of Indochine was, it left behind infrastructure, and a concept of government services including health care and schools. It can even be argued that the colonial system also set up its own dismantling because it provide the education and tools to the people who eventually took on the colonial powers and led their nations to independence. We did not see that in Thailand. Many former colonies went on to success, a respect for basic human rights, and the rule of law. It's not an all negative legacy. Canada, Australia and the Caribbean countries illustrate this. Even some African countries transitioned well.

I'm not so sure India qualifies as anywhere near a "success" yet. As for China: opium wars? The damage from that alone outweighs by multiple factors any possible benefit they might have received from the UK. Large tracts of the world today hate and despise Europe because the English and French in particular believed they were best qualified to tell people how to live their lives. Too bad I see the US following in their footsteps today.

[kikoman]

There is "always" two sides to every story, The colonist story and the colonized story, as history has always been written by the victorious, the history of what was lost to the non victorious side remains untold and can only be imagined what might have been.

Those that say that colonization was good, do not consider the wealth of a country was plundered by them, wealth that went to the colonialist home country, As for education, in the America's the concept of "universal Education" for all was introduced by the Aztec's for its children in North America while the English were still painting themselves blue to go into battle in Europe, the colonist never left the present day North America, they only replaced colonial rule by Immigrant rule, which has never reverted back to the "Native" populations before the coming of the Colonials!

Cheers

[wym]

And putting aside the macro-economic development issue, the fact is even the most benign colonial regimes (which many claim the British were), ultimately had the use of deadly force to back up their money-making schemes, and inevitably there were deadly conflicts, in some cases clear atrocities and war crimes (the manufactured famine in Bengal prior to the Japanese invasion, putting down the 1857 uprisings, the massacre at Amritsar) the use of forced labour and torture, large percentage of colonial "administrators" abusing their positions of power for personal gain (money/power/sex etc) and the whole psychology of superiority, ignorance and disregard for the local culture's values.

Those Indians that said the British were a force for good over their country were the trustees that were permitted to benefit personally themselves from the oppression, in effect paid to betray their fellow countrymen.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/apr/23/british-empire-crimes-ignore-atrocities

[soomak]

There is "always" two sides to every story, The colonist story and the colonized story, as history has always been written by the victorious, the history of what was lost to the non victorious side remains untold and can only be imagined what might have been.

Those that say that colonization was good, do not consider the wealth of a country was plundered by them, wealth that went to the colonialist home country, As for education, in the America's the concept of "universal Education" for all was introduced by the Aztec's for its children in North America while the English were still painting themselves blue to go into battle in Europe, the colonist never left the present day North America, they only replaced colonial rule by Immigrant rule, which has never reverted back to the "Native" populations before the coming of the Colonials!

Cheers

You are trying to paint the Native Americans as some advanced civilization, when in fact North America was far less advanced in the 16th century (when the first Europeans came), then the Roman empire was in the 2nd century AD. I actually think that even the Egyptians that lived 5,000 years ago had a more advanced civilization than the Native Americans.

This does not justify killing anybody, however we all know that this is how the world operated for thousands of years - the conquerors killed the men and raped or took the women by force. And by the way the Romans were usually far more civilized - they often let the occupied territories run their own lives, as long as they paid their taxes and kept quiet.

[wym]

advanced - now there's a loaded term

technology or morality?

how the world operated(s) - wealth/power wins, usually evil

[thailiketoo]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

Does Britain have a constitutional guarantee of freedom of the press then?

[Thakkar]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

You mean like it's been for Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, etc? Or do you mean like for the Aborigines of Australia?

T

[Big Pinkie]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

i dream of a world where the japanese and germans won. imagine that, street dispensers with used sniffing panties on every corner.

there are even japanese and germans that you can talk to and have a sensible conversation. you wouldnt want to even try to do that to any barbarians or poms.

edit: i wonder if they have famous panty girls in japan you know like rock stars in the west?

[wym]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

Does Britain have a constitutional guarantee of freedom of the press then?

Far from it, its defamation laws are not much better than Thailands.

Google 2011 gag orders or privacy injunctions

[wym]

delete double post

[aveabeeror2]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

Your confusing England and Greece with Egypt. History not one of your better subjects mate.

[Nignoy]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

i dream of a world where the japanese and germans won. imagine that, street dispensers with used sniffing panties on every corner.

there are even japanese and germans that you can talk to and have a sensible conversation. you wouldnt want to even try to do that to any barbarians or poms.

edit: i wonder if they have famous panty girls in japan you know like rock stars in the west?

sounds like someones got his little aussie knickers in a twist, having first trained ,then worked with and then even employed Australians and kiwi,s believe me, not many aussies or kiwis would lasta week in fulltime german or Japanese work force, apart from being workshy and having a know it all attitude!! when believe me they know <deleted> all, we should have left Australia to the aborigines, Australia without colonial influence would still be a third world country, infact in some of the outback towns it still is!!brits and French ruined lots of their colonial protectorates, Australia is not capable of ruling or governing itself ,without the british guidelines to help it, there is as much cheating and bribery here in aus as in any third world country, no country has the right to try and hold to ransom and influence the politics of another country

[wym]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

A nice overview of the current state of the rule of law in Britain:

http://boingboing.net/2014/01/11/total-corruption-organised-cr.html#more-279640

[aveabeeror2]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

i dream of a world where the japanese and germans won. imagine that, street dispensers with used sniffing panties on every corner.

there are even japanese and germans that you can talk to and have a sensible conversation. you wouldnt want to even try to do that to any barbarians or poms.

edit: i wonder if they have famous panty girls in japan you know like rock stars in the west?

sounds like someones got his little aussie knickers in a twist, having first trained ,then worked with and then even employed Australians and kiwi,s believe me, not many aussies or kiwis would lasta week in fulltime german or Japanese work force, apart from being workshy and having a know it all attitude!! when believe me they know fuc_k all, we should have left Australia to the aborigines, Australia without colonial influence would still be a third world country, infact in some of the outback towns it still is!!brits and French ruined lots of their colonial protectorates, Australia is not capable of ruling or governing itself ,without the british guidelines to help it, there is as much cheating and bribery here in aus as in any third world country, no country has the right to try and hold to ransom and influence the politics of another country

The three commonest comments in Oz are, in the summer,its turn the bloody tap off, in the winter its, shut the bloody door, the rest of the year its, not another bloody whinging pom. Why dont you go back to where you came from if you dislike the place so much?.

[PJcm]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

The sun does not set on the contributions the British gave the world such as a free press, and independent judiciary, parliament, and the rule of law.

Maybe if Britain had taken more of a role in Thailand after the defeat of the Japanese, some things would be different.

Ah excuse me but, do you think our American cousins would have allowed us to confiscate any territory in Asia since they were the ones who really won the war fed and rebuilt Europe through The Marshall Plan, or were you absent that day in your grammar school.

[TooPoopedToPop]

Colonialism complex?

Brits have always tried to mold the world in their own image.

I doesn't work.

The sun does set on the British empire...every day.

it did work for a while, as others have posted a little bit of British colonialism 100 or so years ago, and things might be very different in Thailand now...one only has to look at how Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Austraila, India etc have all turned out

Places like that make me appreciate Thailand even more. Screw colonialism.

[Nignoy]

Avabeer, you makes I laaf,I loves Australia, great opportunities for people who want to work,which I did, didn't succumb to lousy work ethics and habits,aussies headhunted me in 96, I arrived I worked, I made my mark, happily accepted Australian citizenship, wont be sad to leave in a couple of months though, but will always have a home or2 here, wont I wont miss is foulmouthed lazy employees, who call themselves tradesmen, corrupt police and cheating politicians,bit like any other 3rd world country I suppose!for peace and quiet give me village life anytime, be it isaan , Labuan or the Pyrenees ,anywhere were most aussies are not!!

[aveabeeror2]

Avabeer, you makes I laaf,I loves Australia, great opportunities for people who want to work,which I did, didn't succumb to lousy work ethics and habits,aussies headhunted me in 96, I arrived I worked, I made my mark, happily accepted Australian citizenship, wont be sad to leave in a couple of months though, but will always have a home or2 here, wont I wont miss is foulmouthed lazy employees, who call themselves tradesmen, corrupt police and cheating politicians,bit like any other 3rd world country I suppose!for peace and quiet give me village life anytime, be it isaan , Labuan or the Pyrenees ,anywhere were most aussies are not!!

We're both off topic, but if mods allow me one more post in answer to your comments. What is the ancestory of the foulmouthed lazy so called tradesmen, corrupt cops and cheating politicians? Nuff said. P.S. Whats a laaf?

[thailiketoo]

We're both off topic, but if mods allow me one more post in answer to your comments. What is the ancestory of the foulmouthed lazy so called tradesmen, corrupt cops and cheating politicians? Nuff said. P.S. Whats a laaf?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/696123-friendy-jokes-about-nationality/