petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 My wife is a fanatic anti-government supporter (she is also one of the so-called "hi so" girls) and often goes to the rallies in the evenings after work. I don't join her as I think it's a Thai thing and at the same time I don't want to be deported (I don't really think that would happen but who knows?). I must admit that I agree with her and feel that the present government should quit and make way for a national reform (but leave that out of this discussion). Today, after the Victory Monument bombings she is even more determined to go amd protest every evening and today she said I should join her. I told her that I didn't want to because of the above reasons. Her reply was that I don't like Thailand and am not willing to fight for freedom so I should go back to my own country. We have had 15 years of happiness and this is the first really serious argument we have had in that time. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oogster8 Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 I would leave her with remarks like that. It took 15 years for you to find out she really isnt into you. Tomrorrow is the 1st day of the rest of your life. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RandomSand Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 Tell her the that as neither party would approve of you protesting it's not the correct thing to do... and you don't have have the right the to vote on the issue either way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wellred Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 She seems brainwashed and somehow it's been skewed towards you. On one hand one could say if after 15 years she really doesn't know you then leave but on the other you've been with her 15 years so you shouldn't leave so easily. I suggest sticking it out and just saying you can't as you will get deported. Get an official letter from the embassy if in doubt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) "so I should go back to my own country" I sympathise with you....that is exactly what many TVF members keep telling me. Don't despair and don't give in to your wife's demands. I believe she still loves you, but at the moment the political climate is too hot in Thailand. Keep calm and better days are coming. Please congratulate your wife on my behalf, for her believes. . Edited January 19, 2014 by Costas2008 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krisb Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 Go with her to the protests, then loose her in the crowd and head to the nearest bar. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oogster8 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 15 years wo an agreement is not healthy. I think has been a doormat all these years, and he about to burst. Maybe he should go to the protests and blow his whistle and let it all hang out...................lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 Tell her you'll go with her, if she accompanies you to one of the 'peace' protests like the one tonight in Benjasiri Park. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) A lot of quick replies. Of course she knows me after 15 years but she has never really been so interested in politics as she is now. I don't think she really wants me to leave but tempers did rise and she hasn't spoken to me for a couple of hours (maybe some of you think I am lucky). I would leave her with remarks like that. It took 15 years for you to find out she really isnt into you. Tomrorrow is the 1st day of the rest of your life. I disagree. Yes, she is into me and really supports me in everything I do except this. We have had many good times together and I wouldn't dream of leaving her for this (at the moment anyway). I sympathise with you....that is exactly what many TVF members keep telling me. Don't despair and don't give in to your wife's demands. I believe she still loves you, but at the moment the political climate is too hot in Thailand. Keep calm and better days are coming. Please congratulate your wife on my behalf, for her believes. . Yes I agree with you. I have noticed that many people have short tempers these days. Go with her to the protests, then loose her in the crowd and head to the nearest bar. Sorry, but the bar scene is for me. Prefer a few beers or wine at home. Edited January 19, 2014 by petedk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWIW Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Grab hold of the image showing the statement that foreigners taking part in the protest may be subject to deportation. get hold of the story of the red supporter that go deported/jailed (??) for taking part in the red demo. tell her you support her and agree with her position, but that your desire to be here and take care of her is your greatest concern, and if you were deported, you would not be able to do that..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomSand Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 If she knows you could get deported and she still wants you to risk it,,, then... oh dear oh dear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomSand Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 tell her you support her and agree with her position, but that your desire to be here and take care of her is your greatest concern, and if you were deported, you would not be able to do that..... Exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Grab hold of the image showing the statement that foreigners taking part in the protest may be subject to deportation. get hold of the story of the red supporter that go deported/jailed (??) for taking part in the red demo. tell her you support her and agree with her position, but that your desire to be here and take care of her is your greatest concern, and if you were deported, you would not be able to do that..... Yes, I have been searching for this. Actually I went to the "big" demo last week but I don't want to go every day. I work near Asoke and sala Daeng so I have to walk through these two sites quite often and I find the atmorsphere pleasant. Almost like a weekend market or pop concert but to actually take part in the demos is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 tell her you support her and agree with her position, but that your desire to be here and take care of her is your greatest concern, and if you were deported, you would not be able to do that..... Exactly. Tried that but she "is willing to die for her country." That makes it difficult to argue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oogster8 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 you painting the picture of a lunatic. it seems she dont value you at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sceptict11 Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 My wife supports the eviction of the current "Government" She is not a "loony" but recognises that the present corrupt regime cannot be allowed to continue. or be re-elected on the basis of yet more corrupt "populist" policy. I support her in her belief but she would not ask that I join a "demo" because she says " this is a Thai issue which only Thais can resolve" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 If she knows you could get deported and she still wants you to risk it,,, then... oh dear oh dear. She believes that if anything happens she can pay her way out. She earns far more than I do. you painting the picture of a lunatic. it seems she dont value you at all. I anm sure she values me. Lunatic.... well maybe at the moment. Hopefully, It will die down. There's a lot of advice here but is anyone in a similar situation? I have seen photos of farang wearing "full uniform" at the demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celso Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I told her it is very dangerous, and if she goes there she will be making me unnecessarily worried for her safety. I told her if she still decides to go, she obviously doesn't care about me and I will dump her. Don't think she is happy but it worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 My wife supports the eviction of the current "Government" She is not a "loony" but recognises that the present corrupt regime cannot be allowed to continue. or be re-elected on the basis of yet more corrupt "populist" policy. I support her in her belief but she would not ask that I join a "demo" because she says " this is a Thai issue which only Thais can resolve" That's the sort of answer I am looking for and will show her. I support her 100% in her beliefs but refuse to join the demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptict11 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I told her it is very dangerous, and if she goes there she will be making me unnecessarily worried for her safety. I told her if she still decides to go, she obviously doesn't care about me and I will dump her. Don't think she is happy but it worked! Here we have a person skilled in the use of manipulation and the art of emotional blackmail ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) I told her it is very dangerous, and if she goes there she will be making me unnecessarily worried for her safety. I told her if she still decides to go, she obviously doesn't care about me and I will dump her. Don't think she is happy but it worked! Tried that. Her whole family go there, so there is no way she wouldn't. I let her go but tell her to leave before 9 pm. As I mentioned she "is willing to die for Thailand". I haven't said how old she is but she was in the demos when many students died years ago (sorry I forget how long) Edited January 19, 2014 by petedk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oogster8 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 i think its going to get worse be4 it calms down. my evidence-notice how they are using tires as barricades. im even thinking of fleeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all i do is stay in my hotel now anyway. las vegas seems a bit safer for the time being. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 i think its going to get worse be4 it calms down. my evidence-notice how they are using tires as barricades. im even thinking of fleeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all i do is stay in my hotel now anyway. las vegas seems a bit safer for the time being. Yes, I agree with you that it's going to get worse ..... much worse. (although TIT and maybe tomorrow all parties will be kissing each other). I won't flee the country though. This is my home now. I have no ties (apart from grown up kids) in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celso Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 i think its going to get worse be4 it calms down. my evidence-notice how they are using tires as barricades. im even thinking of fleeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all i do is stay in my hotel now anyway. las vegas seems a bit safer for the time being. Nothing has happened anywhere outside of the protest sites. Stay away from those and you will be fine. Really it is a good time to be in Bangkok if you use your head - tourist sites are all empty, shopping malls empty, no traffic, and I don't know but I guess that hotels are offering discounts? Just stay away from any protests, they are too unpredictable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wym Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 You're wife has been sucked into fanaticism, so just as if she became addicted some substance of abuse, be patient and do what you can to help her overcome this hopefully temporary condition. There really is no harm in going along with her if you want to give in, but do let her know you are NOT willing to sacrifice ANYTHING much less your health & safety to the cause, and as soon as things start to seem unsafe you will decamp for a calmer part of the city. If she honestly wants you to risk your life for her cause, then I'd say it's time to reconsider your relationship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkinbkk Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Ones political & religious beliefs are very very individual and should not be used as basis for emotional manipulation/blackmail especially with close family or friends. Equally our response to such encounters are very individual. I am sure it was a very disappointing incident for you and I trust it was just frustration a 'spur of the moment' thing that prompted such an outburst from your wife? Hope it works out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 15 years wo an agreement is not healthy. I think has been a doormat all these years, and he about to burst. Maybe he should go to the protests and blow his whistle and let it all hang out...................lol. He didn't say he hadn't had the 4 day silent sulks though. This is a Thai woman we are talking about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oogster8 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 i saw one mean looking thai lady walk right past security-she wouldnt let them search her bag-in essence she told them to <deleted>.k off. And they did leave her alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptict11 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 i saw one mean looking thai lady walk right past security-she wouldnt let them search her bag-in essence she told them to <deleted>.k off. And they did leave her alone. A "mean looking thai lady" (sic) ? What did this lady "look" like --------exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguyinthailand Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Me and my gf don't agree too. but this subject isn't something that bother us. we understand each other and laugh about it. she is also very anti government. She even told me not to put a red t shirt this week. I didn't put it on cuz it was red. but it was a red bull-dead bull khoasan road t-shirt and all others were in the laundry. I didn't think it was a big deal. I had it on yesterday too. nobody cares and I go anywhere everywhere. Remind your wife that you two are a couple all that politic bullshit is outside the home. don't believe that everything is divided between yellow and red. I daily met many Bangkok Thai residents who are tired of all this. waiting for bus NR 3 40 min and it didn't even show up cuz of the mob. in the end we took it all the way to mo chit and from there the same bus in other direction to go to were we wanted. luckily both buses were free. but the half day went in traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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